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[TruthBomber]

1) What is the maximum "safe zone" lengthening for tibia?

2) What is the maximum "safe zone" lengthening for femurs?

3) Can both be done at once or separately? With what pause in between?

I hear that 4 cm is safe for tibia.

But in that case to maintain proportions it would make sense to lengthen more for femurs. Would 6 cm be safe?

Also, if both would be done, which should be done first?

And how much of athletic ability would one be able to recover if both are done? How significantly would athletic and overall function be impaired if one does both within "safe zones"?

[Astronomy]

It depends.

[Astronomy]

It depends.

Lemme be clear.
15％of your segment length is an extramely"safe zone".Below it I can guarantee the possibility that you get crippled is the same as one that you get shocked by lightning walking indoors XD.If your very deadly unsatisfied with your height,you can lengthen up to 20％.
So measuring your leg bone length is very important but hard.Xray is the justest measurer for everybody

[InFullStryde]

Safe zone varies; but here they are....

5cm Tibia
8cm Femur

The longer you lengthen typically the longer the recovery. Plan for 1 to 1.5 months per inch added for recovery (return to normal gait).  This of course only pertains to patients using the top doctors and most advanced technology... Stryde Nails

[TruthBomber]

Safe zone varies; but here they are....

5cm Tibia
8cm Femur

The longer you lengthen typically the longer the recovery. Plan for 1 to 1.5 months per inch added for recovery (return to normal gait).  This of course only pertains to patients using the top doctors and most advanced technology... Stryde Nails

If both are done, can they be done simultaneously or in two different surgeries?
What time should be taken between them?

13 cm gain sounds pretty insane.

[Astronomy]

If both are done, can they be done simultaneously or in two different surgeries?
What time should be taken between them?

13 cm gain sounds pretty insane.

If done simultaneously,they shouldn't be lengthened more than 11-12cm I think.
And on the other hand,simultaneous lengthening isn't safe though it takes less time and money
I think recovery time depends on method and amount you lengthen by.
I think at least tibia acquires 1yr fully recovery time and femur acquires 1yr too and even 1yr and a half

[TruthBomber]

If done simultaneously,they shouldn't be lengthened more than 11-12cm I think.
And on the other hand,simultaneous lengthening isn't safe though it takes less time and money
I think recovery time depends on method and amount you lengthen by.
I think at least tibia acquires 1yr fully recovery time and femur acquires 1yr too and even 1yr and a half

If 11-12 cm is still considered safe zone then those are some unreal gains to be had. Imagining if I'm 190 cm I could easily get to 2 meters. Those magic 2 meters outlier height. So much HOPE! I'm willing to shell out 200k$ or more to get this done, willing to endure pain, willing to go through therapy only if I know I will be able to regain 90% of mobility after a few years. Losing more than 10% of athletic ability, mobility would be awful though.

[Ghostfish]

If 11-12 cm is still considered safe zone then those are some unreal gains to be had. Imagining if I'm 190 cm I could easily get to 2 meters. Those magic 2 meters outlier height. So much HOPE! I'm willing to shell out 200k$ or more to get this done, willing to endure pain, willing to go through therapy only if I know I will be able to regain 90% of mobility after a few years. Losing more than 10% of athletic ability, mobility would be awful though.

Hi TruthBomber
Both segments can be lengthened at the same time but surgeries should be done at least 3 weeks apart.  But this kind of surgery can be done only by top doctor like Paley.  I don't know besides Paley who else is capable enough to offer this option.  Even with Paley, you can achieve about 10cm (11cm could be the max, I think) at one time.  You CANNOT go to 5 and 8 cm for tibia and femur, if you do both simultaneously.  You can go back to rebreak your bones to lengthen 16 cm in total (8 cm for each).
Regarding athletic ability, I think you have unrealistic view of CLL.  You will lose more than 10% of athletic ability even with one segment lengthening even after a few years later.  Perhaps you may be able to recover 100% after many years with dedicated workout, only if you lengthen a minor increase like 3-4 cm, which I am not so sure about.

So don't expect or think CLL is a sort of magic that makes you be tall without losing anything all of sudden.

[TruthBomber]

Hi TruthBomber
Both segments can be lengthened at the same time but surgeries should be done at least 3 weeks apart.  But this kind of surgery can be done only by top doctor like Paley.  I don't know besides Paley who else is capable enough to offer this option.  Even with Paley, you can achieve about 10cm (11cm could be the max, I think) at one time.  You CANNOT go to 5 and 8 cm for tibia and femur, if you do both simultaneously.  You can go back to rebreak your bones to lengthen 16 cm in total (8 cm for each).
Regarding athletic ability, I think you have unrealistic view of CLL.  You will lose more than 10% of athletic ability even with one segment lengthening even after a few years later.  Perhaps you may be able to recover 100% after many years with dedicated workout, only if you lengthen a minor increase like 3-4 cm, which I am not so sure about.

So don't expect or think CLL is a sort of magic that makes you be tall without losing anything all of sudden.

I need to lengthen total about 11 cm to reach 2 meters.

How much athletic ability will I lose for life?

I work out 7 days a week, so I can regain a lot over time. I'm very patient. But how much will I be losing in total that won't be able to regain?

[epikness]

Tibia:6.5cm
Femur:8cm

Depends on doctors, but Dr.Lee is usually 6cm limit for both tibia and femur.

[TemakiSushi]

Hi TruthBomber

You are 188cm now?
Then you’ll more likely be allowed to lengthen more than average person even with Donghoon
Safe limit differes depending on original bone length but if you do Stryde it’s 8cm max
Also depends on how much athletic recovery you expect
If you want to intensely play sports even after 2 years post op, you may not want to do CLL at all
Intense sports ability may drop to around 60% to 80% or even less depends on your original ability and how disciplined you are after surgery

[TruthBomber]

Hi TruthBomber

You are 188cm now?
Then you’ll more likely be allowed to lengthen more than average person even with Donghoon
Safe limit differes depending on original bone length but if you do Stryde it’s 8cm max
Also depends on how much athletic recovery you expect
If you want to intensely play sports even after 2 years post op, you may not want to do CLL at all
Intense sports ability may drop to around 60% to 80% or even less depends on your original ability and how disciplined you are after surgery

I don't know who this Dong guy is, but I know that he isn't "best in the world". I have resources enough to go to "best in the world" and that was Paley right?

Sports ability dropping 80% or at fully recovery being at 80% is acceptable. Ability dropping to 60% is not acceptable.

8cm with Styde sounds like more than enough for femur. Then I would only need to lengthen 4 cm or so on tibia and I'd be good to go 2 meters easy.

If you want to intensely play sports even after 2 years post op, you may not want to do CLL at all

I want to first of all LOOK GOOD and MOG.

If I look proportional and can train my legs so they aren't toothpics I'm good. I am OK with using steroids and growth hormone to aid in generation of new tissue and compensate for this surgery.

[epikness]

You know I think if you have that much money, I think getting a consulting from Dr.Paley or any trusted surgeon would be better than asking a random internet community on their opinion.

We aren't doctors nor do we have anywhere near the knowledge as one. But one thing we do know is that the surgery is different for everyone and you might not even get 60% of your athletic ability back. 6'2 is a good enough height for anywhere in the world including the Netherlands. I don't know why you'd get at such a high height.

That aside, you can't compensate for this surgery with growth hormone and steroids. If it was possible, other doctors would've used it. There will be risks and lasting damage from this surgery, nobody is an exception including you. Remember that before you do the surgery.

[TruthBomber]

You know I think if you have that much money, I think getting a consulting from Dr.Paley or any trusted surgeon would be better than asking a random internet community on their opinion.

We aren't doctors nor do we have anywhere near the knowledge as one. But one thing we do know is that the surgery is different for everyone and you might not even get 60% of your athletic ability back. 6'2 is a good enough height for anywhere in the world including the Netherlands. I don't know why you'd get at such a high height.

That aside, you can't compensate for this surgery with growth hormone and steroids. If it was possible, other doctors would've used it. There will be risks and lasting damage from this surgery, nobody is an exception including you. Remember that before you do the surgery.

6'2'' is absolutely NOT a good height for Netherelands. There are females who will mog you there at that height.

6'2'' is maybe ok for a Chadlite with perfect face or Chad, but not for GigaChad.

[wavemaker5]

6'2'' is absolutely NOT a good height for Netherelands. There are females who will mog you there at that height.

I see 6'2" females everywhere in the US, not even midwest, in the south. I'm 5'10 and when they wear even small heels I look like a child. 6ft1 is the manlet cutoff in 2019

[Apoplectic]

Don't listen to this guy he's an incel whose entire world out look is predicated on a confirmation bias.

What we suffer is legit but any man at 6ft 2 is taller than over 90% of the male population.

Any one who thinks in this manner is not suffering from the effects of heightism but chronic BDD and low self esteem and instead of facing their internal issues, they instead blame them on physical characteristics.