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[raku]

I heard from Paley's patient now During the surgery one leg is perform by Paley and the other is performed by his successor.
We know Dr. Pelay is the most experience Doctor in CLL. But his successor may not.

So do you think Doing surgery with Paley now is still safest?

[Purushrottam]

I think you may have heard it from my diary. It’s a team effort. It’s not just one person doing a 4 hour surgery. It’s several surgeons, an anesthesiologist, and several nurses. I think that makes it safer and more thorough.

[Johnson1111]

If Paley is there it's being done by Paley

[Ghostfish]

Of course, that is good.  This surgery is not a simple one.  It needs a lot of efforts, skill, experience and technology.  If Paley is doing this alone, that is more dangerous.  His students are not students.  They are also highly trained surgeons.

[raku]

Of course, that is good.  This surgery is not a simple one.  It needs a lot of efforts, skill, experience and technology.  If Paley is doing this alone, that is more dangerous.  His students are not students.  They are also highly trained surgeons.

Yes the surgery is definitely perform with a good team not only the Doctor. My topic is that one leg nail implant finished by Dr. Paley. One leg implant finished by his successor independently. That's what Dr. Paley patient said to me (surgery done in October 2018)

[TemakiSushi]

Yes the surgery is definitely perform with a good team not only the Doctor. My topic is that one leg nail implant finished by Dr. Paley. One leg implant finished by his successor independently. That's what Dr. Paley patient said to me (surgery done in October 2018)

How did he find that out?

[raku]

You can email Paley institution I think it is not a secret. Because the patient know. Showing they told the patient about this.

[Ghostfish]

Yes the surgery is definitely perform with a good team not only the Doctor. My topic is that one leg nail implant finished by Dr. Paley. One leg implant finished by his successor independently. That's what Dr. Paley patient said to me (surgery done in October 2018)

Hi raku

I am quite positive that surgery is done by at least two doctors.  One leg is done by Dr. Paley and the other is done by another.  But I think that is completely fine because Dr. Paley is watching over all the procedures and the other doctors are all highly trained.  I am a former patient of Dr. Paley.  When I was there, patients talked about which leg may be done by which Dr.. The thing is nobody can tell this, meaning that both doctors are good. 

[TemakiSushi]

Hi raku

I am quite positive that surgery is done by at least two doctors.  One leg is done by Dr. Paley and the other is done by another.  But I think that is completely fine because Dr. Paley is watching over all the procedures and the other doctors are all highly trained.  I am a former patient of Dr. Paley.  When I was there, patients talked about which leg may be done by which Dr.. The thing is nobody can tell this, meaning that both doctors are good.

Have you seen the X-rays of OverrideYourGenetics? One of his bones is bent
He still has joint pain with that side
If multiple doctors are doing one surgery, who will be responsible for malpractice or accidents? 
Is it written on the contract?

[Ghostfish]

Have you seen the X-rays of OverrideYourGenetics? One of his bones is bent
He still has joint pain with that side
If multiple doctors are doing one surgery, who will be responsible for malpractice or accidents? 
Is it written on the contract?

Hi TemakiSuShi

I have read OYG's diary but couldn't find that his bone was bent.  Maybe I am missing some part.  Let me know if I miss some of his diary.  However, he seems to recover very well, though.
Plus, I understand your concern about the surgery.  If you are too much worried about the risk of this surgery, I strongly recommend you not to consider this surgery and move on.

[TemakiSushi]

Hi TemakiSuShi

I have read OYG's diary but couldn't find that his bone was bent.  Maybe I am missing some part.  Let me know if I miss some of his diary.  However, he seems to recover very well, though.
Plus, I understand your concern about the surgery.  If you are too much worried about the risk of this surgery, I strongly recommend you not to consider this surgery and move on.

You can see OYG still has joint pain in his Instagram.
If you really read his diary no way to miss his X-rays
Why do you wanna hide the reality and risk others?
If you’ve done surgery with Paley you should know the conditions of the contract of this surgery with Paley
Why not answer my question?
Who will be responsible when something bad happens, what’s written on the contract regarding this multiple doctors doing one surgery?
I’m asking very important point for anyone considering Paley

I’m ready to do surgery anyways after researching what’s going on in CLL market
Making decisions with knowing facts and possiblities is way better than jumping into it with illusion

[BeYourBest]

I would also like to know now

Also, what is OYG's Instagram name?

Thanks

[Ghostfish]

You can see OYG still has joint pain in his Instagram.
If you really read his diary no way to miss his X-rays
Why do you wanna hide the reality and risk others?
If you’ve done surgery with Paley you should know the conditions of the contract of this surgery with Paley
Why not answer my question?
Who will be responsible when something bad happens, what’s written on the contract regarding this multiple doctors doing one surgery?
I’m asking very important point for anyone considering Paley

I’m ready to do surgery anyways after researching what’s going on in CLL market
Making decisions with knowing facts and possiblities is way better than jumping into it with illusion

Hi TemakiSushi

I wasted additional time to find what you said.  In his diary, he never mentioned "bent nails or bones".  His first concern was leg discrepancy, which could be corrected better if he noticed earlier.  However, that has nothing to do with bent bones or nails.  Next his concern was that one side of femur seems to have  nail closer to wall, making bone wall be thin or looking thin.  This should or could be a legitimate concern.  I don't know exactly whether it is a true problem or not.  Luckily, he seems to be fine with femurs and recovering well.  Another his concern was zigzag bone looking in fibula.  Dr. Paley said that that is not a concern and OYG also seems to recover his tibias and fibulas. 

I have no reason to hide anything.  I don't work for anybody and am a busy man for my own stuff.  But I am coming here to help people and to get some additional information since I am still a patient.  As for contract, to be honest, I didn't look at it at all, because no matter what, I was determined to do it.  Personally, I like Dr. Robbinson better than Dr. Paley.  I was happy with both legs no matter who did which leg.  Many patients over there had sort of gossip or chats about who did which leg.  Nobody was able to tell for sure. 

Anyway, if you are not happy or concerned with multiple doctors doing the surgery.  Then stay away from Paley and find another doctor.  It is your choice. 

Good luck!!

[Purushrottam]

You can get a surgical report that says which surgeon operated on which leg. Mine said that Paley operated on one leg and Robbins the other. There was really no difference between the two legs. They are both really skilled surgeons. Its a team operation, not an individual one.

[TemakiSushi]

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=5352.msg92186#msg92186
his right femur is bent in the X-ray while other femur look straight
He still walks a bit weird has some joint problems with this side only according to his Instagram
Malalighments, discrepancy in length both can be a cause of arthritis
Puru thanks for clarifying the point
Paley institute is acutely Paley and Robbins
It’s very good to know this fact before flying all the way to the other side of the world


http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=5352.msg92186#msg92186

[Leggs]

[wannagrowtaller]

So it was not a secret.

[TemakiSushi]

I’ve read it before
But never could imagine one leg was done by the other doctor
I thought “helping Paley” means just doing minor things while Paley  operates on both legs