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Walking
« on: September 27, 2014, 09:56:15 PM »

A small vid I had taken showing my current walking condition. Ankles are still tight as hell and I feel that there may be some bowing in the left leg. Just putting it up for a little evaluation, but it won't be up long. Sorry about the angle and brevity, it's the best I can do for now. 10 Months Post-op, 6 Months Post-Frame Removal... Running, squatting, jumping, all still out of the question.

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Re: Walking
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2014, 10:49:46 PM »

Looks pretty good man, but can you jog at all? 10 months post op i would have thought running was possible, although you did 6 cm so maybe not.

Btw is the reason you feel you cant run, because you are afraid you might hurt yourself, or does it simply not work when you try to do it?

Btw with the nails inside i dont think the legs should be able to get bowed, have you done any x-rays recently to see how the consolidation is going?
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Re: Walking
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2014, 11:01:12 PM »

Because I'm out of my country I cannot have an x-ray done. Not being able to run is a combination of trepidation, no ankle flex, and the changed bio mechanics. Tried it once and stumbled over myself.
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Re: Walking
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2014, 11:04:16 PM »

Also to add, my wingspan is 183-184cm, but when I walk I do feel that they are short for the height I now have. Any input on this?
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Re: Walking
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2014, 11:09:21 PM »

I think your arm-span looks completely normal and proportional, btw has your doctor told you anything as to what you are allowed to do or if there still are restrictions?

if you could confirm if the bone is fully healed maybe you would dare to push yourself more which might improve the speed of your recovery.
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Re: Walking
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2014, 11:15:21 PM »

My work contract expires November 7th, so I won't have one until then. The last one I had was early August, and he said that the callus has progressed very well (had an injection in May on one leg to induce growth), but still wasn't strong enough in his view to perform strenuous movements.
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Re: Walking
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2014, 11:25:07 PM »

Wow, you look amazingly tall in this video, I must say!
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Re: Walking
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2014, 03:33:13 AM »

Doesnt look so good after 10 months, but it will get better with time. Sweden's disciple lol.
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Re: Walking
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2014, 01:37:04 PM »

I know it's bad, and I hope it does improve with time. Been stretching my ankles a lot lately but they don't seem to get better. If this is the way my gait stays I guess I'm fked for life in every measure....
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Re: Walking
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2014, 01:49:34 PM »

Do you blame it on the doctor or is it just a bad case?
I guess good care and physio could have helped. But yeah your doc certainly messed up alignment.

India man :/

Anyway what are you finances like, now? Can you worst case go to Paley now?

Keep strong. You'll get better!
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Re: Walking
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2014, 01:57:53 PM »

Who is your doctor? Your walk doesnt look good for 6 months post frame removal
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Re: Walking
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2014, 02:04:57 PM »

Dr was Sringari. I can get free examination in Canada, but the issue is finding a doctor that is knowledgeable in LL. The doctor I saw briefly was a general ortho. He told me the alignment seemed fine in the legs, but he never had a standing x-ray performed. I am praying the gait is a result of stiffness and not malalignment.

I need to find a doctor in my hometown that might be able to fully help me when I return back from work. I know smallguy found a good one in Vancouver, but there doesn't seem to be any in the Toronto area... They aren't as willing to fly in specialists from far away towns to dote on you personally in Canada as they are in Sweden. And yes, I do have a tendency to get worried and depressed when things go astray, so I will indeed try to keep strong.
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Re: Walking
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2014, 02:40:49 PM »

I know it's bad, and I hope it does improve with time. Been stretching my ankles a lot lately but they don't seem to get better. If this is the way my gait stays I guess I'm f**ked for life in every measure....

Don't worry man it will improve with time, now its hard for you but later everything will be ok because there is always a solution.
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Re: Walking
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2014, 02:59:37 PM »

Judging from the clip, I reckon you have very good proportions and the second femur surgery will be unnecessary. You're already 6 ft but in fact you look 6'1 in the video because of your longer tibias. The extra height from femurs will make you disproportionate, especially with shoes on.
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Re: Walking
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2014, 03:04:30 PM »

If you could do HGH treatment i think your recovery could be faster
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Re: Walking
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2014, 04:28:43 PM »

Here's another vid that's hopefully a bit clearer. The guy I got to help me film doesn't speak the greatest English, so I couldn't get him to track it better. I asked another guy what he though about my alignment and he said it looks fine. He thinks the awkward gait is due to the stiffness in the knee and ankle and thinks the right side looks worse than the left. When I walk the left feels unstable. When I put my legs together they line up as they should in a normal stance shown in the image attached. I know it's noticeable to others because people still regard me as a cripple and treat me sympathetically when I go out and I lead the life of a cripple.

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Re: Walking
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2014, 05:06:33 PM »

Your alignment looks fine to me too.

How much walking are you doing at this point in your recovery?  I was walking at least 2 hours a day, powering through the stiffness.
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Re: Walking
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2014, 05:13:56 PM »

You walk like having ballerina foot
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Re: Walking
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2014, 05:15:00 PM »

I've probably walked at least an hour a day since early August, but much of that walking was with severe ballerina. I was advised by the doctor I saw upon my return home to not weight bear until he felt I could do so, so in effect a good 3.5 months out of the 6 since frame removal were spent sitting and walking with a walker where 80% of my weight was being alleviated. I didn't immediately start walking since frame removal. I too hope that it is just this stiffness that I must power through now.

The reason I felt there was some bowleg was because whenever I viewed the walking from behind in the videos it seemed the ankles were bent inward from the knee during toe-off. However, I've watched videos of other people walking and it seems they too have the same effect in their gaits, like in this video:


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Re: Walking
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2014, 05:17:21 PM »

You walk like having ballerina foot

That's probably because I still have it. The alignment looks fine to you?
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Re: Walking
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2014, 06:16:20 PM »

why does your walking look like you're walking tip toes?
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Re: Walking
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2014, 06:58:49 PM »

Because I have ballerina still.
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Re: Walking
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2014, 07:27:35 PM »

Because I have ballerina still.
hope u get back to normal asap
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Re: Walking
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2014, 08:48:47 PM »

That's probably because I still have it. The alignment looks fine to you?
Yes it looks normal for me
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Re: Walking
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2014, 09:29:14 PM »

Do you have knee pain from your IM nails?
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Re: Walking
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2014, 09:38:10 PM »

No, I can fall onto cold hard concrete and pray to Allah with the most devoted if I were so inclined and the knees would not be an issue. I am very fortunate in that regard. I am hoping that my ankles will follow suite.
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Re: Walking
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2014, 11:02:18 PM »

I'm sorry you are struggling polycrates, I don't know much of post-surgery recovery but what I can say is that your proportions and ar lenght look absolutely normal to me, hope that is some consolation. I am unaware of what happened during your surgery, was there some sort of major complication that left you worse of than other patients or is this generally to be expected of such a drastic operation?

Again I really hope you will improve and I'm sure that eventually you will.
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Re: Walking
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2014, 11:11:47 PM »

Other than the toe paralysis I had there were no major complications, but I still do not know the complete ramifications of that paralysis. The toe moves up a bit, but not near as much as the right toe. For instance, I cannot touch the top of a shoe when I wear it with my left toe like I can with my right. All other movement in the ankle and everything appears fine, but I haven't had it officially evaluated for damage. I haven't seen enough of other people who did this to know what the average progression of recovery is at 10 months.

I am actually satisfied with my recovery thus far. The things that frustrate me are my worry that this might be as good as it gets, since I've done pretty much everything I can to try to improve the ankle flexibility, and even worse is that I am clearly debilitated in the eyes of others, as they always offer me assistance or ask what is wrong with me. That is definitely the most frustrating aspect of it all, knowing that to others there is something clearly off.

All this coupled with the fact that I've unequivocally accepted how s**tty this world is on the whole that I couldn't honestly care less about my body and its dimensions at this point. Before surgery, my opinion on that matter was vacillating, but now it is definitive and final. If I had that mentality as concrete beforehand I would never have ventured to undergo this procedure.
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Re: Walking
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2014, 11:31:48 PM »

I'm getting cautious of this surgery again after a period of optimism I would never trade my physical health for a few extra centimeters and -without meaning to offend- your level of ability is far from an acceptable end result in my opinion. I've also searched for successful examples of people recovering after the operation and moving on with their height issues solved but so far I have found mostly discouraging news.

The only real bother I have with lenghtening is my recovery afterwards unfortunately that is not only impossible to guarantee but it seems almost unlikely based on the evidence that I would ever be the same again. Hope I'm not coming of as a frightened kid but can anyone help me settle this:

Is leg lenghtening basically giving up your ability to use your legs properly to gain extra height or is it a painful and long procedure that one has to go trough in order to be taller but something that eventually will be just a memory?

-Polycrates, sorry to say this but your walk does not look normal. I'm sure it will improve if not by itself then surely there is some medical help to get.
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Re: Walking
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2014, 11:46:45 PM »

What in particular is it about the walk that makes it far from normal? This is what upsets me is that even in person, people say the same thing. They say the alignment is fine, but there is just something wrong but never identify it, lol. It's scary to me, because when I walk I feel like I'm walking normally, so...
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Re: Walking
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2014, 12:10:14 AM »

make a high definition video  and have the camera sitting on a bench as you walk from right to left, and front to back and vice versa. and then I will be able to view it properly. wear a mask, and make sure your whole body is in the camera, make the video several minutes long and don't rush it. walk on hard surface. no hills.

im good at recognizing patterns.

or you could just try to guess it yourself.

my guess would be stride has changed because tibia might be longer than femur. don't know.
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