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[ChrisIsaak]

Russia is a much better Option than india... I would never go to india

Russia, China, Turkey, to name a few. All are way better.

I remember Captain America's diary where he mentioned that although some Indian doctors are very well-trained, other important factors like nurses' training and hospital hygiene aren't on par.

[KiloKAHN]

But on the other side of the story you might be able to save people from going to Sringari to a better doctor. If he is trained by Paley then what are the chances he is the same level of bad like Sringari or Sarin? I say post info because then people can have more options than these two S doctors.

Fair point. I guess if there's interest I can post the info in the doctor directory.

[Gichelu]

Fair point. I guess if there's interest I can post the info in the doctor directory.

Please post that info.

[Arche]

I think that there are good Limb Lengthening surgeons in India. I just don't believe there are any in the sub-20 grand range. I think we should keep exploring surgeons in India, but limit the search to those who studied abroad (UK, US, etc.) and then came back. I don't think I would ever go to India, but I do realize there are people from different countries who simply cannot never afford the likes of Paley or Guichet because they aren't getting paid in Pounds or USD if you guys know what I mean.

[ChrisIsaak]

Here in Turkey LON/LATN should be around $27,000 (excluding accomodation), and externals around $18,000 (again, excluding accomodation). I asked my doctor to provide some package prices, hopefully he'll be able to come up with something this summer. I didn't find the external ilizarov price quite competitive if it happens to be around this range, but for the intramedullary methods this should be one of the best options financially. I came up with the prices myself by converting the quotes given to me by Dr.Inan (From Euro to Dollar and Lira to Dollar). He gave the surgery price (in Euros) and the materials cost (in Liras) seperately, lol.

[KiloKAHN]

Posting the info now.

[LittleLiam]

Thanks so much Kilokahn for posting what looks like an alternative to Dr. Sarin perhaps?

I've also emailed China now as suggested by Drink of Water, thank you.

I think external with LON for femur is the best I can afford :-(

[TomD]

Sysop that mother f**ker really should hang for what he's done and continues to do to people to fund his own correction procedures. Hope he's as happy with his actions as he is with his precious website.

Spoken like a true protege 

those were the days.........

[Daylight]

Does this cost include the frame removal?

[Cannibal]

^ Yes and it comes with complimentary amputations.

[USApatient]

As a former patient of Sarin I beg anyone to find another option. He has permanently disabled several of his patients myself included. I wish to remain anonymous but feel compelled to issue a warning to anyone considering him. If you have questions you may PM me and I would be happy to provide some guidance. Best wishes.

[USApatient]

I just met with my surgeon after having The hardware from Sarin removed and external fixators put on to correct his mistakes. I was informed that in addition to the non union, ankle deformity, and bone migration I had an internal buildup of puss inside my bone where the nail was removed. Fortunately the biopsy came back negative for infection, yet this is just another issue that could have caused grave issues had I not seen a competent surgeon to repair Sarins careless errors. Several of Sarins patients had bone infections so bad it literally ate away at the bone and left gaping voids in the tibia.

If anyone wonders how this could happen let me give you an example of how Sarin operates (I refuse to call him Dr. At this point)

One of his patients ( an Australian fellow) was having severe nerve pain due to pin placement in his tibia. So rather than bring the patient to the hospital and make any corrections on the operating table Sarin showed up to the dirty indian hotel where his patient was staying. Using a pair of wire cutters that could be purchased at Home Depot Sarin simply cut both ends of the wire that attached to the frame. Now the wire is running through the bone not attached to anything on either side he then pulled the wire out of his leg dragging dirt and bacteria affixed to the wire directly into the patients internal bone!!!  He did not even bother to wipe the pin down with alcohol before yanking it out. Now these pins are never cleaned and are absolutely filthy. To pull a dirty pin through the interior of a patients tibia is madness. Not to mention all of this was done without even giving the Australian man a children's Tylenol for pain. Needless to say he was screaming in agony.

[USApatient]

Another topic which I feel must be stated is that Sarin told me he does not test the blood he uses in transfusions for HIV AIDS as in his opinion it is a waste of money. I personally did not have a blood transfusion, yet several of his previous patients who received blood had themselves tested 3 times for fear of being exposed to AIDS. One of the patients I speak of posts on this site regularly. I will not disclose his online ID out of respect for his privacy.

[mediocre]

Ironically Sarin is a chemical weapon.

It was recently used in Syria War but became most infamous during the 1990s Tokyo subway gas attack.

Sarin is a Weapon of Mass Destruction.

[KiloKAHN]

Christ...and this is the doctor who was planned to get exclusive rights to the Betzbone and Precice in India :/

[TomD]

Contacted Dr Sarin to see if he is still doing the surgeries.

> Mail through Dr Sarin
> [name]: tom Dxxxx
> [email]: tomdxxxx@yahoo.ca
> [phonenumber]: xxxxxxxxxx
> [country]: usa
> [treatment]: tibia/fibula lengthening 7.5cm
> [description]: Hi Dr Sarin. I am interested in doing the surgery in your care
> but need to know a few more details.
>
> Do you still have the guest house? How much do you charge for surgery and the
> 3 months needed for lengthening?
>
>
> Do i need a sponsor for my visa ?
>
>
> Please let me know I plan to have it this summer if the price is right.

Reply

info@DrSarin


Now we keep people in small hotels and provide cost of stay also comes down
depending on accommodation you choose . surgery charges will 11K USD It
includes physio for 4 months . stay varies from 3K to 5 K depending what type
of hotel and food u chose you have option of picking different kind of food.
In cas you need Visa then please send the passport details so i can send you
the invitation .please travel on medical visa.

[Ajax2thousand20]

Why does it take 9 months with Sarin when most Doctors usually take 6 months max?

[GeTs]

Why does it take 9 months with Sarin when most Doctors usually take 6 months max?

I don't think 7.5 cm takes 6 months. Its always 1.5 months per cm

[tikal]

charges for LL surgery is  11K USD  for dr sarin ?

[TomD]

Hey Fellahs.

I sent Sarin the email to see if he was still operating and if so how much.

I wanted to follow up with him to see if he would take some test patients to refurbish his image on the LL forums and old forum  but I have not followed up on it.

Just so he can get a few success stories so he can turn the page on  sysop and other bad episodes.

[tikal]

I am totally confused about whether or not he is a good doctor
Do not trust anyone
Sorry for my English

[KiloKAHN]

If you're set on New Delhi you dhould probably just skip Dr Sarin and go with Dr Dhawan. Costs less but with better credentials and the option to lengthen with a hexapod correction afterward.

[Ajax2thousand20]

If you're set on New Delhi you dhould probably just skip Dr Sarin and go with Dr Dhawan. Costs less but with better credentials and the option to lengthen with a hexapod correction afterward.

Yeah gonna skip him. Waiting 9 months on top of what I've heard on him allthough crazy 6 lengthened beyond reason but Sarin allowing him to attributed to that as well.

[tikal]

i am not indian.
tell me is he dr sarin is Quality doctor؟
and his cost is 11000$?

[ForcedPuberty]

tikal. don't be lazy. do some reading.

[TomD]

I sent Dr Sarin a heartfelt email and he was very quick to reply

info@drsarin.in
To   me
CC   info@drsarin.in Today at 5:40 AM
Dear Tom,

Thank you for showing the level of trust and confidence in me. I am very
pleased that despite the reviews on the old forum , you are interested in coming to
India for the surgery along with the others.

The LON surgery would you cost you $10,000 per person which shall include cost
of the accommodation, breakfast and physiotherapy for a period of 3 months.

This is the best offer I can extend to you. Trust the same is acceptable at
your end.

Furthermore, patients are not obligated to write any diaries, testimonials or
reviews on any website. Since there are many fictitious diaries being written
on the forums, I do not encourage any of my patients to write any such
diaries.

Should you decide to proceed further and come to India for the surgery, please
send me details of your passport for the visa.


Thank You.

Dr. Amar Sarin



On Wed, December 24, 2014 4:35 pm, tom dxxxx wrote:
> Hi Doctor. Merry Christmas and Happy Hollidays!
> My name is tomd on the forum LL Forumorums. This is the thread dedicated to you as
> a Limb lengthening Doctor Dr Amar Sarin ( New Delhi, India)
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> I am one of the founders of LL Forumorums. We were the small group of Makemetaller
> members who started to question sysop (aka Sysop) the owner of old forum
> about his relationship with you.  At the time I was very interested in doing
> the surgery with you in India. In fact, I was very interest in the hydraulic
> nail for internal femurs. Sysop had you in very high regard and his number
> one doctor on his 'approved list'. 

>   He went to India to see you and then all
> of a sudden came back not wanting anything to do with you which caused great
> confusion for the members of Makemetaller.  When asked, he refused to say why
> and he started to block people from the guest house from commenting on it.

> This is when the small group of us confronted him on it . Instead of telling
> us the truth, he banned us from the forum so we started up our own forum.  My
> goal is to re establish your good name to the many members who wish to do LL
> surgery. We understand that there is a learning curve to the procedure and
> now that you have extensive experience with it there should be no serious
> complications with simple external tibias.Â

> I am not interested in going into
> business anything like that. We on LL forums want all doctors to succeed on
> their own merits.  Would you be willing to take 3 of us for a sum of $5000
> each for external tibias (we would pay for our own hotels and whatnot) as
> test patients  so that you can re emerge as a renowned  doctor with a lot
> to offer at a great price of $11k ? Â I always believed you to be a good
> doctor but were put in a difficult circumstance.  We cannot promise a glowing
> reference but we will be fair and keep a diary on LL forums.  Let me know
> your thoughts on the matter.Â

[ForcedPuberty]

I could have sworn he used to charge 17500 usd$ or something around that figure.

[TomD]

I could have sworn he used to charge 17500 usd$ or something around that figure.

He did.

He is offering LON and accommodations for 3 months for only 10k. That to me is an outstanding deal.  I am considering it if the Spanish Doc doesnt pan out.

I will probably talk to Sweden first before I make my final decision.

[ForcedPuberty]

perhaps you could do femurs with the Spanish doctor, and tibia with sarin.

I personally would not use sarin. I prefer to stick to doctors who are internationally recognized. like ASAMI board members.

but good luck.

just remember. staying in a 3rd world might not seem like a big deal but it really hits you after you move there. so consider it. things that you are used to having will all of a sudden be unavailable. especially diet wise.

[TomD]

perhaps you could do femurs with the Spanish doctor, and tibia with sarin.

I personally would not use sarin. I prefer to stick to doctors who are internationally recognized. like ASAMI board members.

but good luck.

just remember. staying in a 3rd world might not seem like a big deal but it really hits you after you move there. so consider it. things that you are used to having will all of a sudden be unavailable. especially diet wise.

This is what I was thinking but I have emailed the Spanish doc about doing Fitbone femurs and LON tibs for a reduced price. We will se what he says.

[tikal]

ask about wat happen for mmn_native is that true ? can tell me for knowing fact