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[Kenda]

Hi Guys, I am a Petite Figure, 152.5 cm Girl, I am 20
I actually have a budget of 35k to 40k for this Surgery and I am willing to Only do it once in a lifetime, but my concerns are :
• Getting an increase on no less than 8 CM  (femur maybe since it can go longer)
• trying to avoid affecting my knees or ankles because I have to walk to college so someone told me that Nails in tibias affect The Knees and worsen the pain , BUT Also I am very worried that going for my Femur would affect my back and cause me backpain or decrease my walking abilities ?
• Worried about what my stop me from achieveing 8 cm upper because some doctors say that 5 or 6 is what we usually do ....but i cant do this surgery for only 6 cm .

So What do you guys think My Best Nail option and best doctor is ?
Also can you tell me your experiences regarding post op pain affecting knees , back, walking abilities ? And does that Depend on wether i choose Tibia or Femur ?

Doctors i was considering : Dr Sarjbit from Singapore- But dont know if he does Precice ?
+ Dr Alex Monegal from spain but heard mixed reviews about him and dont know his Price and dont know if he use Precice ?

[Great321]

So far I'm not done with the process. So I can't say for sure that it's the best solution. But if I do a second surgery I will choose Dr. Giotikas for Stryde. It would fit your budget.

[notatroll]

I wouldn't choose Monegal. He's probably the worst option. I have permanent knee pain and limping after surgery. Other people can't walk many years after surgery. Cinderella (Monegal) will tell you I'm a troll but I have proofs.

[Kenda]

Did you do Tibia or femur and which nail did you choose ?

[doomsday]

You have no idea how many things you have to consider if you want to get max value from this surgery and stay safe.
First off you are petite so only small nails will be considered. Two, doing tibias messes up bio mechanics and there is no research about the impact in 40 years after surgery.  If youre doing 8 cm and considering your goal it is a big chunk of your over all height so its gonna be way harder. External are not an option because you're a female and trust me scars are big and people ask questions sooner or later. At this budget if you wanna get 8 cm only the Dr. from Greece is in your reach and youre still short in  terms of money. Doing 8 cm on tibias , externals is a suicide. Especially for a woman. Keep reading because you know nothing yet. Also I doubt you got that kind of money for LL or youre committed to get it. 

[Kenda]

Okay so First of all what type of Small Nails are you talking about ? You mean Precice or fitbone or what exactly ?
Second do you feel like Tibias are not a good choice because they have more side effects ?

[Americanfootball]

Hey Kenda

I m doing it now with Alex Monegal,  did internal femur(unilateral),I’m very happy with result until now (read my diary) I think best option in Europe for this Price is Monegal and another thing that you will have a minimum scar which is so important for a girl. Don’t listen some troll who hasn’t even real evidence and try to manipulate Doctor and say same things like A Parrot. If I were you,7 would make an appointment no matter which doctor you choose.

Stay Strong!

[notatroll]

Did you do Tibia or femur and which nail did you choose ?

Femur. Fitbone. Worst decision ever. Write to me if you want to know the truth. Many people with that guy have issues with scars. I have proofs of everything

Hey Kenda

I m doing it now with Alex Monegal,  did internal femur(unilateral),I’m very happy with result until now (read my diary) I think best option in Europe for this Price is Monegal and another thing that you will have a minimum scar which is so important for a girl. Don’t listen some troll who hasn’t even real evidence and try to manipulate Doctor and say same things like A Parrot. If I were you,7 would make an appointment no matter which doctor you choose.

Stay Strong!

Promoter like other patients. Only Monegal patients do this. NOT to be trusted.

[TemakiSushi]

Okay so First of all what type of Small Nails are you talking about ? You mean Precice or fitbone or what exactly ?
Second do you feel like Tibias are not a good choice because they have more side effects ?

Shorter people can lengthen less amount than taller people because amount is decided on a percentage base; longer the original, more lengthening possible.  Probably for your height 8cm tibia is too much.

Also petit women’s bones are very thin, if you do internal method with tibia, you will more likely be able to choose only precice8.5mm diameter
Other nails are too thick for your tibias.  If you put thick nails, you’ll have very high chance of non unions or very delayed consolidation, if unlucky not gonna be able to walk unassisted for years

Better to check with orthopedist in your country first to see exact size of bones before deciding anything.  Then with the data send mails to  well known CLL doctors world wide

BTW Fitbones, Guichet nails, Betz nails are reported with higher complication rates

[Kenda]

Ohh okay thank you for the Useful answer ,  But do you think that doing LON or LATN on a bone like the Tibia is safe ? Arr these nails even thicker than precice or what exactly do you think ?
Because Precice on tibia will give me a max of 6 cm, if i even reached it, but a doctor that does LON & LATN told me that 8 CM can be achieved on tibia easily ?
Is that false or what

[Cinderella]

Hey Kenda

I did not have height disphorya or mental issues like this troll guy. I would check his posts and all of his other 5-6 previous accounts banned and you will see he is obsessed.

My condition was very bad and Dr Monegal changed my life.
You can write to him or to Wittenstein (fitbone manufacturers) and you will see what they can advice you. You can write me and I can kindly send you my xrays to proof I am not lying.

Regards

[TemakiSushi]

Ohh okay thank you for the Useful answer ,  But do you think that doing LON or LATN on a bone like the Tibia is safe ? Arr these nails even thicker than precice or what exactly do you think ?
Because Precice on tibia will give me a max of 6 cm, if i even reached it, but a doctor that does LON & LATN told me that 8 CM can be achieved on tibia easily ?
Is that false or what

Don’t trust those doctors who say it’s easy to lengthen 8cm tibia
Technically it’s possible to lengthen 8cm even with Precice nails
But doctors should give advice to patients very conservatively.
It’s really not an easy thing for sure.
If you read lots diaries you will know that
Also your proportion will look very wiered after lengthening that amount.

I recommend you to contact Dr Donghoon Lee in korea especially if you are from Asia
His package is cheaper than Dr Sarbije in Singapore
Dr Lee is the best for Asian women’s thin tibias.
He offeres LON for about 40k including hospital stay with rehabilitation  of 120 days

http://drdonghoon.com/landing/m_en.html

[Kenda]

Honestly doing LON for me is like torture because i have a High pain sensitivity.
I was just asking how come people recommend LON in tibias instead of Precice , the LON nail is Huge ! Its thick too....but do you think they say that because LON causes less side effects like knee pain or so ?

I feel like my only option for now will be Precice in the femurs, and i am starting to consider Dr. Franz from South Africa, people say he has better experience ?!

[TemakiSushi]

I see if you do femurs you’ll have chance to put Stryde 10mm
Precice will be obsolete for femurs in very near future. Only 8.5mm stays for thin tibias
I think Dr Giotikas in Greece or Dr Frantz in South Africa are good choices however I still will go to Dr Lee since he is very experienced with Asian bones.
I saw hIs new clinic, it was a state of art with a pool, 3D X-ray EOS, and special operation room etc..
Besides his package includes hospital stay of 90days, the price difference is not that much.
Dr Frantz already announced that he will raise his surgery price.

CLL involves super high risk of many complications if things go wrong
I think it’s better not to decide things depends on budget
It’s worth saving up money and wait till you can pay for the best choice

LON is not safer than precice!! Got more complication risks such as bone infections
Still can leave problems with knees even with LON if done by wrong doctors of  higher risk of lots complications
With LON there are varieties of nail sizes 7mm 8 mm etc..

Also don’t forget that those who could lengthen 8cm femurs are generally taller  than 160cm males
Can’t expect too much.  need to wait until X-ray check up of whole body to see proportion before deciding lengthening amount

[Canon]

I wouldnt do it if I was you. Short women/girls are hot. They are mostly petite and petite is what most men are searching for.

[Kenda]

What about LATN, what do you think about it ?
I dont really get the concept,
But he puts the external rods that do the lengthening then in another surgery he removes them then inserts the middle nail .
Some people say this middle nail is 8mm , i am not really sure.
& if i do sometiing such as LATN do you think femurs would be better , pain wise or even more ?

[Hex]

I like petite girls, and
most men too, I would not do this surgery if I were a woman, I would focus on getting sexier.

[TemakiSushi]

LON is Lengthening Over Nail
LATN is Lengthening And Then Nailing
Both involves internal nails but LATN you have to have major operation twice,
first one is to put frames then second one to put nails, while with LON you can do both surgery at once at first.

Doing LON or LATN, external methods are not recommended for femurs.
Even if you do femurs there are still  risk of knee problems, Android had problem with knee doing femur external in Russia.
External methods for femurs has higher risk of infection and nerve damages also.

[Kenda]

Thank you Temaki for your reply .
So do you think going through LON Tibia is better , and what about complications??
I believe everyone say LON is weight bearing so when exactly after the lengthening and removing the external part can i walk normal again

[TemakiSushi]

Thank you Temaki for your reply .
So do you think going through LON Tibia is better , and what about complications??
I believe everyone say LON is weight bearing so when exactly after the lengthening and removing the external part can i walk normal again

Wow first you said externals are like a torture and you didn’t wanna it
They really are torturous with higher risk than Stryde
Why don’t you just go with Stryde femurs in Greece
Even with LON you may not be able to walk without crutches for about 6months or if you get ballerina foot or other complications, it may take longer than that

With Stryde femurs you’ll very likely start walking without crutches after one month

[Bosnian2018]

She has height dysphoria. It has nothing to do with being able to attract the opposite gender.

Do it, I think Parihar, Giotkas, Franz Birkholtz, all for the budget. Dont know about lee but thats probably the best option if he cheap enough.

[Kenda]

Thank u for the reply , I think my budget only allows me to Precice 2 not stryde for Femurs.
I am avoiding the Tibias as my knee already gets painful every now and then.
But why do people discourage the idea of having LON on Femur ? Isnt the femur a stronger bone than tibia ? Or is it because of the pain of inserting nails inside the skin ?

[7231]

I am afraid your budget is not enough even for precise

[MirinHeight]

go to Dr giotikas or Dr Parihar,

DONT go to dr monegal.

[TemakiSushi]

Thank u for the reply , I think my budget only allows me to Precice 2 not stryde for Femurs.
I am avoiding the Tibias as my knee already gets painful every now and then.
But why do people discourage the idea of having LON on Femur ? Isnt the femur a stronger bone than tibia ? Or is it because of the pain of inserting nails inside the skin ?

Femur involves more muscle mass, nerve systems and thicker tendons
Even with femur surgery you have risks of messing up your knees and nerves
Look patients in Russia who did external femurs got knee problems and drop foot nerve damages.
External femurs are much more dangerous than anything.

[Sara123]

My budget is similar to yours, about 37 to 40 k USD.

I was going to do cross lateral external in femurs but have decided not to. Too risky. I will do just tibias 5 or 6 cm if my body can cope with it that is. I’m very worried that making tibias 6 cm longer will look odd but I will try to find a way to make thighs look slimmer so there is a balance. So yes using an external device in femurs scares me so I’ve given up on the idea. I will not use LON on tibias. From what I have read it’s risky and it’s better to just use an external device on tibias with nothing more, no nails. Takes longer but from what I have read, this appears to be the safest option with the fewest complications.

I’m similar to you, small female with a similar budget.

[U only live once]

Hi Kenda,

8 cm is a bit ambition for a hight like yours. I would go for a maximum of 6 cm. I have used Fitbone with no complications (5 Cm) but I think Fitbone has a limit of 8 cm. You have a decent budget and you can afford a few good doctors, personally, I would avoid India but that’s me.

Before making your decision I recommend talk to the doctors and talk to some of the patients ask for proofs and only after them make a choice.

I hope you can achieve your dreams.

[Kenda]

Hi Sara , I am stuck with the same decision as you , i was thinking of going with precice 2 on femur but nothing really guarantee reaching the 8cm, maybe i pay all that money and i dont reach them for some reason !
So i thought about the TSF method , is that the one you’re talking about too ?
But still it inserts nails into your skin and muscles which leave scars and how am i even gonna be with this large frame for 6 months !

[Kenda]

Hi Kenda,

8 cm is a bit ambition for a hight like yours. I would go for a maximum of 6 cm. I have used Fitbone with no complications (5 Cm) but I think Fitbone has a limit of 8 cm. You have a decent budget and you can afford a few good doctors, personally, I would avoid India but that’s me.

Before making your decision I recommend talk to the doctors and talk to some of the patients ask for proofs and only after them make a choice.

I hope you can achieve your dreams.

Thank you alot
Yeah i have an option of doing this TSF frame thing on tibia, but my bones are not that huge and it i am worried the scars are terrible and the pain is bad but i dont know really ?!

[U only live once]

Hi Kenda,

I would avoid external methods when we have innovative internal methods available these days. With internal nails your scars will be almost unnoticeable from own experience ; however , this depends a bit on the type of skin you have.

There will be pain with either methods but the pain will go away and your hight will stay forever. Plus, you can take painkillers that do a pretty good job.

My advice would be to lengthen no more than 6 for an optimal result, though, I have met people first hand that have successfully achieved 8 Cm with no complications. Lengthen at a slow pace but no too slow to trigger early consolidation and do full stretching every day.

Best wishes and remember doctors get as far then it all depends on you.

[wants2growtaller]

Hi Kenda my suggestion before doing any surgery is  to read and gain as much information about limb lengthening.