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[JohnOdin]

I made this topic to discuss the benefits of precice stryde over the previous precice and other LL methods. I'm really interested in reading a stryde patient diary, but it seems there are none out right now
From what I've read some positives are

-weight bearing improves callus formation
-weight bearing improves stretching the muscles

[tlannister]

all we have are theories.
we have to wait untill the Stryde diaries to actually measure it.

[Kotiki]

If Stryde turns out all it's cracked out to be, more orthopaedic surgeons will start offering cosmetic lengthening as it becomes less controversial. This will lead to increased competition and drive down prices. And this will be the greatest improvement we can get.

[mrblack]

If Stryde turns out all it's cracked out to be, more orthopaedic surgeons will start offering cosmetic lengthening as it becomes less controversial. This will lead to increased competition and drive down prices. And this will be the greatest improvement we can get.

I think you are dreaming

[Bry]

Well, if STRYDE becomes popular, maybe his antecessors will become cheaper?

[Pilor]

What is the diffrence to the Betzbone? I read the Betzbone is also full weight bearing and has  already been used for many years ...

What is the weight-bearing-capacity of the Betzbone?

[JON SNOW]

Well, if STRYDE becomes popular, maybe his antecessors will become cheaper?

No, for better or for worse, these products do not behave like iPhones haha

believe me the prices for CLL are only going to increase

[JohnOdin]

If Stryde turns out all it's cracked out to be, more orthopaedic surgeons will start offering cosmetic lengthening as it becomes less controversial. This will lead to increased competition and drive down prices. And this will be the greatest improvement we can get.

i think the thing about LL is that it's much riskier than other cosmetic surgeries. i don't think the price is why

[Kotiki]

Why so sceptical? Think about it, how many surgeons in America alone perform lengthening? Hundreds, maybe, thousands. Any self-respecting orthopaedic surgeon has the skills to lengthen a limb to correct deformity caused by trauma or birth defect.

Now, how many of those offer cosmetic lengthening? I read on this forum about two, but maybe there are 5 or 10 at best.

What's the reason for this massive discrepancy between the number of surgeons skilled in limb lengthening and number of surgeons offering cosmetic limb lengthening? The fact that CLL is viewed as controversial in the orthopaedic community and most surgeons won't touch it with a 10 feet pole. I live in Australia and cosmetic lengthening is banned here as an unethical procedure, where the benefit to the patient doesn't justify the risks and the brutality of the recovery. Still, Australian surgeons perform limb lengthening every day, including on children. Just not CLL. So, the skills exist, what's missing is the willingness to offer the service to people with short stature.

Now, let's image that Stryde lives up to expectations and allows for a much less brutal lengthening experience. This might very well make CLL less controversial and encourage more surgeons to offer it without feeling bad for putting their patients through hell for a purely cosmetic benefit.

If hundreds of surgeons in US start offering ccl, not to mention thousands of surgeons world wide, could ccl  not plummet in price? I think it's inevitable. Or can someone point out a case when the competition didn't drive down prices?

All this of course contingent on Stryde delivering a streamlined lengthening process. And don't forget, Synoste is also working on bringing a superior weight bearing nail to the market.

Am I dreaming? Yes, it's my dream to see more humane and affordable procedures available to cosmetic patients. Doesn't mean it won't happen. In fact, I'm confident it will, the question is only how fast.

[mrblack]

Hundreds of surgeons? You write about limb lengthening as if it was a liposuction or genioplasty. Even with a new Precice it is still a complex surgery and procedure. Many patients want the best surgeons and that always costs money extra. The price of lengthening increased in the last years, not decreased. Maybe there will be more doctors who offer this in future but I dont believe it will become a top seller and big deal in the world of cosmetic surgery. Where do you want to slash expenses? The nails are expensive and remain expensive.  Hospital expenses are mostly fixed. You can go to Bangladesh to get it much cheaper, good luck! The only thing you can really save money is if doctors curtail their fees because of more competition. But a good doctor knows he is good and can demand higher prices. Please dont forget: Although many short people want to be taller there are not many in comparison who are willing to undergo this surgery and procedure of lengthening, healing and recovery. I think this wont change extremely even with a new Precice nail. Thats my opinion.

[Kotiki]

Sliding genioplasty and fat grafting/liposuction ARE in fact more complex surgeries than cosmetic limb lengthening. Furthermore, orthognatic surgery and facelifts are significantly more complex than limb lengthening as far as surgery is concerned. (Don't confuse the difficulty of recovery with the complexity of the surgery.) And yes, these surgeries became significantly more affordable when the techniques improved and allowed predictable outcomes.

As a  matter of fact,  cosmetic limb lengthening is pretty straightforward. An average orthopaedic surgeon deals with far more complex cases than lengthening healthy legs on a daily basis (correcting extreme congenital bone deformities, putting together bones shattered in horrific accidents, etc). They don't offer CLL because they don't think it's ethical, not because CLL requires some kind of advanced skills they don't already have.

This source states that there were 25 thousand orthopaedic surgeons in US in 2009. That's twenty five thousand orthopaedic surgeons with higher level skills or equal to dr Paley in America alone.
https://www.beckersspine.com/lists-and-statistics/item/739-11-statistics-and-facts-about-orthopedics-and-orthopedic-practices

I have no idea if Stryde will tip the balance towards CLL becoming acceptable in the eyes of orthopaedic surgeons community. I hope it does. But if it does and more surgeons start offering it, there's no doubt that the price will go down.

[zakika]

+1 Kotiki

[mrblack]

A genioplasty ist more complex?? Sorry but you are a guy who knows nothing. I had a genio. Beside of that you can not split everything. There is the surgery and then the lengthening and healing procedure. That belongs together and therefore its more complex as a genio which is not so a difficult surgery. Every doctor in this field says limb lengthening is the biggest and most complex procedure in world of cosmetic surgery. Even with Stryde that wont change extremely. Are you smarter than any doctor? OK you can wait 5-10 years till prices will plummet. Maybe yoz are right, maybe not. Its your decision. Good luck!

[1683131665]

Surgery in China is divided into four grades, and other countries may have such a classification.
1. Low risk, low difficulty, similar to cutting double eyelids
2. The difficulty is generally moderate risk, rhinoplasty liposuction surgery
3 The risk is greater, the difficulty is greater, the limb is extended
4. The risk is very high.  It is very difficult. Intracranial surgery
It is usually more difficult for CLL to serve normal people. A gnome has a normal human nerve that is only a genetic defect. This is why it can be extended so much. But the normal human nerve is more exposed to the risk of being stretched.