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[AlwaysLivin]

Hello,

I have a 80K saved up and I would like to get this procedure. Other than the 80K I have no other savings. Would it be possible to get this surgery and pay for flights, meals, recovery etc all under 80K USD? The surgery does not have to be done in the USA. I am looking to do the surgery first thing in 2019. Thanks.

[AlphaX]

it's for quadrilateral, femur or only tibia?

[Zeo]

You could techinically go to Dr. Rozbruch if you can get insurance to cover some of it. However, if they end up not covering it you'll be screwed because you won't have the full money. You should also probably be able to afford Dr. Mahbaubian but tbh I have really looked at his prices lately.

The mid tier doctors as far as price goes for precice are Dr. Birkholtz, Parihar and Giotikas.

Idk when any of these doctors are going to offer Stryde though check the stryde thread

[419]

You could techinically go to Dr. Rozbruch if you can get insurance to cover some of it. However, if they end up not covering it you'll be screwed because you won't have the full money. You should also probably be able to afford Dr. Mahbaubian but tbh I have really looked at his prices lately.

The mid tier doctors as far as price goes for precice are Dr. Birkholtz, Parihar and Giotikas.

Idk when any of these doctors are going to offer Stryde though check the stryde thread

Not true. I want to clear the air here once again and forever - people have been saying this 'insurance' to cover .. not true. I have discussed with Rozbruch and he does not accept any insurance to cover anything (including PT). I don't know who started this fasle information here on this forum and started confusing people. Rozbruch's total cost (including everything) will go upwards of $100k. Even surgery etc. will be much higher than $80k.

[Johnson1111]

-In US you can afford Dr. M, Dr. Debiparshad, Dr. Conway,
-Then doctors like Guichet, Betz, Pili, Donghoon Lee,
U have plenty of options at that price

[419]

-In US you can afford Dr. M, Dr. Debiparshad, Dr. Conway,
-Then doctors like Guichet, Betz, Pili, Donghoon Lee,
U have plenty of options at that price

Can you plz provide me the link to Donghoon's latest cost? the links I found are very old. Thanks.

[Great321]

It depends on how much you want to lengthen.

about over 40k Stryde with Dr. Giotikas only one segment and probably 80k both

Munich Pullach with Dr. Köhne would be 80k with Precise 2 both segments. I will ask them on Monday if they offer Stryde sometime and how much more it would cost

[419]

It depends on how much you want to lengthen.

about over 40k Stryde with Dr. Giotikas only one segment and probably 80k both

Munich Pullach with Dr. Köhne would be 80k with Precise 2 both segments. I will ask them on Monday if they offer Stryde sometime and how much more it would cost

Excellent, I also heard you have links with Dr. El Machete in mexico who is offering stryde for 300 peso ? can you ask him on monday if he can reduce it to 200 pesos?

[LAGrowin]

-In US you can afford Dr. M, Dr. Debiparshad, Dr. Conway,
-Then doctors like Guichet, Betz, Pili, Donghoon Lee,
U have plenty of options at that price

$80k in the US with those doctors is not enough.  It's barely enough for the medical procedure and some PT, but no way accommodations, meals, and travel.

I'd say to be safe in the US, you'd need a bit more.

[Great321]

Excellent, I also heard you have links with Dr. El Machete in mexico who is offering stryde for 300 peso ? can you ask him on monday if he can reduce it to 200 pesos?

I'm sorry I don't know anything about a Mexican doctor..

[myloginacc]

-In US you can afford Dr. M, Dr. Debiparshad, Dr. Conway,
-Then doctors like Guichet, Betz, Pili, Donghoon Lee,
U have plenty of options at that price

Don't include Guichet as a CLL doctor and as an option. The man is all ego and no medical doctor. He's a surgeon - no more.

[AlwaysLivin]

Sorry, to be clear, I want to legthen 1 segment 7CM femurs.

[Johnson1111]

If you already have 80k (Which most of us don't) I think the best suggestion is to wait and save a bit more until you can afford Paley or Rozbruch

[OverrideYourGenetics]

I had less than $80k saved up, and had quadrilateral lengthening with Paley, which costs $175k.

The trick is to think long term and expand your idea of a "budget". You have two options:

• Wait/work for years to save up the entire cost of the procedure + ancillary expenses and then have it years later and suddenly run out of money at the end of your recovery (unless you save up even more to sustain yourself for a few months after that as you'll be looking for new sources of income)
• Or take a loan, have the surgery right now when you're younger and recover better and don't have as many obligations (family, career), and pay back the loans slowly over time. Being taller is likely to help you get a better paying job, or advance faster in your career - through increased self-confidence as well as employers' heightism.

More on how to think about covering the cost of this surgery on my blog.

[Zeo]

Not true. I want to clear the air here once again and forever - people have been saying this 'insurance' to cover .. not true. I have discussed with Rozbruch and he does not accept any insurance to cover anything (including PT). I don't know who started this fasle information here on this forum and started confusing people. Rozbruch's total cost (including everything) will go upwards of $100k. Even surgery etc. will be much higher than $80k.

well clear the air with the 3 people with rozbruch diaries who said they were covered.

[419]

well clear the air with the 3 people with rozbruch diaries who said they were covered.

Have you communicated directly with Rozbruch or his office? I have.

[Zeo]

Honestly idc either way, I don't have a dog in this fight I don't plan on going to Rozbruch. I'm just saying what I read:

You should check if your specific insurance plan is listed under the hospital's accepted insurances here https://www.hss.edu/insurance.asp. This will be for the non surgical fees part.   THe other part is Dr. Rozbruch's surgical fee. If he's not in network (he was out of network for me), make sure your plan has some out of network coverage that will hopefully cover some of the costs for that part. Call his office to check.  Check out 6FeetSoon's LL thread, he was able to even get it a little cheaper than me.

I must stress however that you won't know how much everything will cost until after the surgery when all the insurance claims are process so you need to have 100k+ in reserve just in case nothing is covered.  But Dr. Rozbruch says usually insurance will cover some of it so take it as you will. You will have a good idea if your insurance will cover anything during your initial consultation as that is when you will get xrays taken, if they are covered by your insurance, you are on the right track. 

I was lucky that my employer granted me an extended leave of absence until I recover and get back to work  so I am still having my health benefits. If you have to quit your job, do it early in the month as most companies will let you keep your insurance til the end of the month after you quit.  Then have the surgery later that month while still being covered.  Afterwards you will either need to buy your own health plan or use COBRA to extend your employer's insurance, not sure which one is cheaper. This is for post op follow ups and x-rays and hopefully no complications.

I weighed about 54kg/120lbs.

Here is the breakdown of what was charged to my insurance plan:

Anesthesia: 6.5k
Plan discount: 2.5k
Plan paid: 4k
Me: 0

Hospital fees including room and equipment: 88k
Plan discount: 45k
Plan paid: 43k
Me: 0

Surgery: 62k
Plan discount: 0
Plan paid: 7k
Me: 55k

[Johnson1111]

Honestly idc either way, I don't have a dog in this fight I don't plan on going to Rozbruch. I'm just saying what I read:

I second this. It literally says on Rozbruch's limb lengthening website the types of insurances they accept.

[419]

I second this. It literally says on Rozbruch's limb lengthening website the types of insurances they accept.

I am not saying that what you are saying is pulled out of ....., I am just saying that you better hear it from the horse's mouth because I was given a quote of $125k and was told that insurance cover for anything is not possible and when I inquired again giving this logic (that you are giving like I learned from your ex patients etc. that some things like PT may be covered by certain insurances) then they stopped communication with me. So, I personally would not believe anyone that says Rozbruch is within $80 (or even $100k) budget.

[Bosnian2018]

Insurance does cover the hospital fee but not the surgeons fee in some cases for Dr. R.

depends on your insurance.

btw one member did post their bill and 3 did post stays who also claimed their insurance covered some part of the hospital bill. Those numbers from the previous post are accurate.


now their office says it's not covered because  if your insurance doesnt cover the hospital fees or part of it you better have the full amount saved.

Also a claim is submitted to your insurance when you book the surgery. So you dont know If they will pay the hospital fees until after.

Also their are two costs. The surgeons fee and hospital fees. For a cosmetic procedure your insurance will never pay the surgeons fee. However once you are hospitalized and the rods are in you are now "injured" or needing medical care regardless of whether it happened for cosmetically reasons, trauma or past therapy. Hope that helps.

So here's the back story but it also explains why Dr. R's office says not covered.

[7231]

You could techinically go to Dr. Rozbruch if you can get insurance to cover some of it. However, if they end up not covering it you'll be screwed because you won't have the full money. You should also probably be able to afford Dr. Mahbaubian but tbh I have really looked at his prices lately.

The mid tier doctors as far as price goes for precice are Dr. Birkholtz, Parihar and Giotikas.

Idk when any of these doctors are going to offer Stryde though check the stryde thread

Rozbruch costs much much more than $80k. Can you show me an email or proof that he is below $80k?

[Bosnian2018]

Perhaps you read nothing in this thread. 

[7231]

perhaps you should keep your mouth shut or come up with proof or stop spreading a claim that you cannot back up.

[Bosnian2018]

perhaps you should keep your mouth shut or come up with proof or stop spreading a claim that you cannot back up.

Again reading is your friend. We referenced all the proof you need. A simple search would reveal it all. All the other members are lying and all the LL vets are BSing but you know for sure that insurance didnt cover anything for them. Despite one member even screenshotting his bill.

no ones gonna link every thread for you. it's all on the forum.

so take that metal rod out of your arse. Headass

[7231]

Again reading is your friend. We referenced all the proof you need. A simple search would reveal it all. All the other members are lying and all the LL vets are BSing but you know for sure that insurance didnt cover anything for them. Despite one member even screenshotting his bill.

no ones gonna link every thread for you. it's all on the forum.

so take that metal rod out of your arse. Headass

Perhaps you do not have intellectual capacity to understand that Just writing away on the keypad is not proof. Do you have any email snapshot from the doctor ? you don't , so stop propagating false information on this forum. I have email from the them stating the cost which is much higher. I am done arguing with you, as the saying goes it is not possible win argument with stupid people because they pull opinion out of their ass and call it proof, I can't stoop to that (your) level. Adios amigo.

[Montreal172]

Ever heard back ?

[Short56]

Can you plz provide me the link to Donghoon's latest cost? the links I found are very old. Thanks.

i will send you that tomorrow morning i asked him ...give me your email i will forward his email to you

[ghkid2019]

i will send you that tomorrow morning i asked him ...give me your email i will forward his email to you

That guy was last active two years ago