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RaaX

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Does he/she get a worsened duck ass syndrome post surgery? any other problems besides the duck ass?
I am curious after seeing Unicorn's pics, she had her surgery back in july 16 and she is still suffering from duck ass syndrome till this day.


This is what i suffer from and i believe this will cause problems with recovery when i get LL.


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How severe is your lordosis? Everyone has a little bit of it. Also, it's something that can be improved if you perform the correct physical therapy for it.

In theory (theory because I haven't done LL), if you lengthen your femurs it will get worse at first. But through PT, you should be able to correct it, at least some.
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How severe is your lordosis? Everyone has a little bit of it. Also, it's something that can be improved if you perform the correct physical therapy for it.

In theory (theory because I haven't done LL), if you lengthen your femurs it will get worse at first. But through PT, you should be able to correct it, at least some.

its more pronounced when i stand relaxed, otherwise i always try to walk with an upright posture. I have bought a brace online an year ago to correct it but i am not sure if that would be helpful especially considering the fact that braces are usually specially made for each individual and there can't be a one-fix-all solution i guess.


Also do people even with normal posture get that duck ass syndrome? I read that Dr.Paley warns about this happening and says it can only be then fixed by surgery which he charges 30k additional if i am not mistaken...
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I'm almost sure your duck ass will get worse, but there is a chance that extra "worse" duckass will go and years later, you'll be taller with the amount of current duckass you have. Paying 30K to get rid of duckass sounds unnecessary to me. First attempt to prevent it, and then walk and walk and it'll go away.

One tip that I wish someone had given me before LL (and you can apply this months, years before you do LL)- learn to sleep on your stomach. If you can manage to sleep on your stomach during LL, that should be great for battling duckass. I absolutely never sleep on my stomach so I couldn't do it during LL either.

I'm pretty sure no one on the forum's qualified to give you an exact answer for this btw. Ask a surgeon.
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I'm almost sure your duck ass will get worse, but there is a chance that extra "worse" duckass will go and years later, you'll be taller with the amount of current duckass you have. Paying 30K to get rid of duckass sounds unnecessary to me. First attempt to prevent it, and then walk and walk and it'll go away.

One tip that I wish someone had given me before LL (and you can apply this months, years before you do LL)- learn to sleep on your stomach. If you can manage to sleep on your stomach during LL, that should be great for battling duckass. I absolutely never sleep on my stomach so I couldn't do it during LL either.

I'm pretty sure no one on the forum's qualified to give you an exact answer for this btw. Ask a surgeon.


Sleeping on a stomach causes more damage to the spine lol. It’s not good, I used to do that and had low back pain, I try to sleep on my back or side now but it’s mostly side, I am trying to turn it into a full back sleep slowly but surely because it is the proper form to sleep and helps in correcting posture problems.

I believe I will just see a chiropractor here and ask for help in correcting this mess before I think of LL.
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Find the best chiropractor/physical therapy facility in your city. You might have to try a few out, I had try 2 places out and the third place  was a good fit for me. Definitely get your back as good it can naturally be before doing LL. I was able to find some improvement in my lordosis personally. Which was mostly caused standing up way too stiff to compensate for back injuries. I tried a back brace and I think it probably made my lordosis worse, unless your doctor tells you to wear one or you truly feel like it's helping you with some kind of manual labor it might not be a good fit with your lordosis. I'm not a professional, just sharing some of my  experience as my back was messed up for awhile and is now at a point where it's slowly improving. Also for sleeping, I find that a good
pillow (you may have to try a few out before finding the "perfect" one) for my neck and putting a pillow under my knees while sleeping on my back works best for me. Sleeping on my stomach didn't work well as it increased lower back pain.
Bottom line, find a well qualified place to get some good physical therapy in and hopefully you can find some improvement for your lordosis.

Edit: I'm actually not 100% certain on whether the back brace made my lordosis worse. But from what I've seen, standing way to stiff can make it worse over time.
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Maybe you DON'T have lordosis!
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2018, 06:49:40 AM »

For the past 30 years, I also thought I had lordosis.

But after losing 20lbs post-surgery (out of ~160), my lordosis, much to my surprise when looking in the mirror, is GONE. Looks like it was caused by my (formerly) strong glutes. My lower back is much flatter.

Note 1: I can't stand yet. What I see in the mirror is my side image when holding onto a walker. Maybe when I'll be able to stand on my own feet again, the lordosis will be apparent again. Or maybe not.

Note 2: I asked Dr. Feldman, the spine expert from the Paley Institute, for a diagnosis and he said I barely have mild lordosis. That didn't seem the case to me because my spine looks like this in the EOS X-ray:



But, I'm not an expert. Lordosis & CLL is a weird combo.
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Re: Maybe you DON'T have lordosis!
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2018, 11:21:27 AM »

my lordosis, much to my surprise when looking in the mirror, is GONE. Looks like it was caused by my (formerly) strong glutes.

Wait, I'm pretty sure duck ass is caused by weak(not strong) glutes + tight lower back. When you have duck ass, your glutes and hamstrings are weak and can't hold the way they're supposed to, and the tight lower back pulls.
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Does he/she get a worsened duck ass syndrome post surgery? any other problems besides the duck ass?
I am curious after seeing Unicorn's pics, she had her surgery back in july 16 and she is still suffering from duck ass syndrome till this day.


This is what i suffer from and i believe this will cause problems with recovery when i get LL.




I'm suffering from lordosis today even though my surgery was July 2016 is because my left leg fractured, I had to wait for the fractures to heal and finally, was able to lengthen in from Apr-Oct 2017.  Hence, my duckass is cause by the new left leg lengthening.

In addition, because the right leg suffered from non-union, it ran away to about 10cm and the body is having a very difficult time trying to cope with such long femurs.  My soft tissues are all in contracture.  With my recent surgery to release my IT band (which is the only soft tissue that cannot lengthen unlike muscles), my duck ass suddenly got better overnight.

So yes, 1-2cm do make a huge difference to your body and yes, it does that a lot of time and stretching to get rid of your duckass. 

I hope I'm able to elucidate the issue clearly.
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