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[SpeedDialer]

Thanks! What's a specific example you heard about that would affect someone, ex: so in India you are saying they would publicize your leg lengthening to other people?

[SpeedDialer]

My current plan is:

1. Do a virtual consultation w/ Giotikas like April of 2022 ish , gather the labwork/x rays, etc needed to clear me for the surgery, etc

2. September of 2022, Giotikas femurs to 7.5 cm w/ weight bearing Gnail

Then wait a year to recover

3. 4 months before planned surgery, do a virtual consultation w/ Parihar + start gathering all the labwork/xrays etc

4. Then to save money, go w/ Parihar 6 cm tibia Precise 2

And then my hope is w/ the experience of doing it once w/ Gnail, I'll be ready for a more difficult challenge of:

- not being in a western nation
- wheelchair the whole time w/ Precise 2
- differences in cleanliness of Greece vs India
- I'm guessing that Athens, Greece and Mumbai have similar percentage of English speakers?

I am wondering to myself 'is my idea retarded? Am I overlooking anything?' I emailed Parihar asking if he uses gnail. He just said look at my website and I only see mention of precise 2. Is my timeline not realistic/not enough time to do things like get the labwork/prepare?

[Shatter. Gee. 11]

Thanks! What's a specific example you heard about that would affect someone, ex: so in India you are saying they would publicize your leg lengthening to other people?

Who told you that lol? There is no country where it won't be considered a crime. A doctor can't reveal anything at all. We do have privacy laws. India is just another country where humans live lol.

[SpeedDialer]

Someone told me that Dr. Parihar is as expensive as Dr. Giotikas now for precise 2.2. Where on Dr. Parihar's website do you find this? I can't seem to find it

[tallmen]

Someone told me that Dr. Parihar is as expensive as Dr. Giotikas now for precise 2.2. Where on Dr. Parihar's website do you find this? I can't seem to find it

total cost of precice 2,2 in india -> 32,844 USD
Surgery cost -> 11,822 USD

Giotikas price -> 46,841.40 USD

so parihar is still cheaper but the difference is like $ 2k.

[more]

Reaching Lee is very easy while Parihar very Hard , If You have any problem Lee Institute will listen while with Parihar you have to take appointment which may take days

[mumbai]

Reaching Lee is very easy while Parihar very Hard , If You have any problem Lee Institute will listen while with Parihar you have to take appointment which may take days

Yes parihar is very hard to get hold of for a consultation or even to get an email reply. But once you become a patient they will respond well.

[Dirona]

Yes parihar is very hard to get hold of for a consultation or even to get an email reply. But once you become a patient they will respond well.

Mumbai, Are you planning for the surgery this year with Parihar? I got an appointment with him fortunately

[mumbai]

Mumbai, Are you planning for the surgery this year with Parihar? I got an appointment with him fortunately

Yes, planning for this year. Are you consulting with him via Skype? Which method are you planning for?

[Dirona]

Yes, planning for this year. Are you consulting with him via Skype? Which method are you planning for?

I am consulting with him over zoom. Can I DM you?

[mumbai]

I am consulting with him over zoom. Can I DM you?

sure

[Dirona]

sure

Done.thanks

[SpeedDialer]

For a USA citizen, on the east coast, what are the pros and cons of Dr. Parihar vs Dr. Giotikas?

"total cost of precice 2,2 in india -> 32,844 USD
Surgery cost -> 11,822 USD

Giotikas price -> 46,841.40 USD

so parihar is still cheaper but the difference is like $ 2k."

I think that the price of travel vaccines + extra price of the ticket cost pretty much 2000 USD which makes me think their prices is now the same

[SpeedDialer]

Does Dr. Parihar do rebreaks of bones?

Ex: what if I lengthened just 1-2cm on tibias with another doctor (considering doing gnail 7cm on femur then 2 cm on tibia with precise 2 back to back with only 1 month rest in between, might be enough lengthening tbh but want the option to rebreak the tibias later if want more length). Purpose of back to back: get that precise 2 nail before prices increase from inflation

Or at that point, would it be cheaper just for me to do rebreak of the tibia bones in the USA with a local leg lengthening doctor? (there are two who are within a few hour s driving distance of my place)?

[sphenopetroclival]

He's one of the Indian docs I think people can be sure isn't a quack. He's trained under Dr. Paley.

for a year only. if there was a recent HSS affiliation at some peer reviewed case study perhaps this statement would hold some weight at assessing the pearls of Mangal's surgical techniques. I'd project that at 2022 it takes around 15 years at an elite community to refine surgical technique to become an expert and approximately 30 without these resources. You would keep this in mind while selecting a surgeon in general

[liltunechi]

Where can I contact this Dr?

[KiloKAHN]

Video was made 4 months ago. He's still offering internal lengthening with Precice nails.

[toyz]

Video was made 4 months ago. He's still offering internal lengthening with Precice nails.

precise was recently put on hold in india not sure if its available now.
we should know soon I hope

[ekero]

Hi, im new here.

Im interested in LON method on tibia but think im not the right candidate and also ive heard there is some risks to have prolonged knee pain.

Anyways from what i understand in my case the right option is to have external fixator that, from what ive read in the past, has to be on your legs for the whole process until you can walk fully.

But recently i saw in a interview with indian surgeon Dr. Mangal Parihar he said that they now can use "locked plates" that they can do the lengthening with a fixator but then put a plate on so that the patient doesnt have to have the fixator for a long time.

Does anybody have experince/knowledge about this? Thanks.

[KiloKAHN]

Hi, im new here.

Im interested in LON method on tibia but think im not the right candidate and also ive heard there is some risks to have prolonged knee pain.

Anyways from what i understand in my case the right option is to have external fixator that, from what ive read in the past, has to be on your legs for the whole process until you can walk fully.

But recently i saw in a interview with indian surgeon Dr. Mangal Parihar he said that they now can use "locked plates" that they can do the lengthening with a fixator but then put a plate on so that the patient doesnt have to have the fixator for a long time.

Does anybody have experince/knowledge about this? Thanks.

It's an alternative to putting in a nail to decrease the time in an external fixator. As I understand it, it's not as stable as LON and results in more incisions being made, but I may be wrong. Dr Birkholtz offers that as an option too, last I checked.

[KiloKAHN]

Stumbled upon this old post on the forum. Attached below, we have straight from the godfather of modern limb lengthening, Dr Dror Paley, that Dr Parihar is a very good doctor. And Paley doesn't blindly support all docs who have studied with him or at one of his facilities, as we've seen him trash a doc associated with him before.

(The part about Stryde didn't age well though lol)

 

[AnotherLLer]

Kilo, how are you doing these days? How'd you describe the current condition of your legs? Do they still bother you? How's your gait and pace of walking?

[Viggen_18]

Hey! I'm new to this forum and I'm considering limb lengthening surgery in India, I saw about doctor amar sarin and then came to find out about his disasters. I found about doctor Mangal Parihar in this forum, and I'd like to know something.

1.Does he offer cosmetic limb lengthening surgery with LON external fixator (ilizarov apparatus)?

2. Does he have any package like the others, which includes stay, medicines, physiotherapy, food, x ray, walking aids, etc?

3.how can I get in touch with him and get this done?

[Viggen_18]

Kilokahn, had something to ask you regarding getting the surgery done by doctor Parihar, I'm aiming for 6 cm on my tibias and for method, I'm considering LON external, I have a few things to ask you about

1.do they provide you with physiotherapy during the lengthening phase or distraction phase?

2.since you increased by 6 cm, how long did your lengthening phase last? and if I recall correctly, you didn't have an intramedullary nail in place, so you had to wear it during the consolidation as well. If I opt for LON external fixator, how long will the lengthening phase last and probably I can return home

3. Can I expect assisted walk after say like 90-100 days of lengthening? Yeah I've got some budget constraints in placed as well distance issues so I'd like to return home and also avoid complications, if any are to arise, and if embolism is something, then I'll probably not return until I get unassisted walking, how long does it take for unassisted walking over LON external fixator?

4. How can I get more information about this from you? Like some more details, I'm considering it getting done sometime in the future, and have you regained most of your athletic abilities now? I'll make up my mind based on that and probably contact doctor Parihar

Kindly help me out, will be very helpful. Thank you

[Viggen_18]

Oh, one more question to add, I heard from his interview with victor that you were there alone, did they provide you a caretaker during the lengthening phase? And approximately how many days after the surgery can I return home, for LON external fixator? How long was your stay there?