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Dhdhdjuru

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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2017, 12:10:01 AM »

Man, if you "don't care" about your height then why are you even on these forums?
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2017, 12:14:33 AM »

Hey, if your not going to help why bother commenting mate? I realise this was an old thread but my god are people judgemental, the man asks for help and some of you just take the piss, 20 cm is clearly achieveable, is it gonna be difficult? Yes, even remotely close to impossible? No. Its going to take alot of effort and patients along with a good doctor and money but you will be able to, it might be too late but keep your head up high and just have hope man.
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2017, 01:25:46 AM »

It is achievable but you'll end up a cripple or someone with very limited functionality.
If someone does not want to walk again he could lengthen even 25 cm.

There is nothing to do with effort or good doctors and all these bs.
A good doctor won't let you lengthen even close to that amount (15 cm max and even that is much) and no matter what effort you put the harm in soft tissue and the destruction of biomechanics would be enough to never walk normally again or even not walk at all. I am not even saying about sports abilities which would be a joke.

So don't speak about things you don't know and have normal expectations or you'll end up a cripple.
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2017, 01:35:26 AM »

Hey, if your not going to help why bother commenting mate? I realise this was an old thread but my god are people judgemental, the man asks for help and some of you just take the piss, 20 cm is clearly achieveable, is it gonna be difficult? Yes, even remotely close to impossible? No. Its going to take alot of effort and patients along with a good doctor and money but you will be able to, it might be too late but keep your head up high and just have hope man.

Feasible yes, sensible no. The worst complications of LL has been seen after lengthening big amounts such as 20 cm. Think how many people you've heard of surviving well a 20 cm increment. Also, you will definitely mess up your proportions.

This is your health and mobility you are talking about, you have only seen the positive side in such a dangerous procedure. That might some day cost you all.
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2017, 01:43:57 AM »

Fair enough, but what about 15cm? Because my legs are short and my wingspan is 175cm even though im only 165cm
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2017, 02:23:38 AM »

You can lengthen 20 cm without crippling yourself, see Apo case. It's just that you have to go slow with the lengthening. In fact you can lengthen more like many dwarfs do, like 30+ cm over several surgeries (for example, lengthen femurs by 7.5 cm, then in a year lengthen tibias by 7.5, then again do femurs 7.5 and finally tibs 7.5). You obviously don't want to lengthen that much because of body proportions.

15 cm is max I'd recommend, but again proportions. Unless you have noticeably very short legs to torso, limit to 10-12 cm divided 4-6/5-7 tib-fem to be safe. Again, not everyone can take even 10 cm of lengthening as we all start out with different proportions (SH/H, ape index). Taller patients most definitely shouldn't go over 10 cm, as they statistically have lower Sitting Height/Height ratio (relatively longer legs to height/torso)*.

* http://adc.bmj.com/content/90/8/807
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2017, 02:36:45 AM »

Yep, I agree with Overdozer, though instead of doing 7.5 / 7.5, maybe it would be better to do 8 / 7 as femurs tolerate better the lengthening. However, 15 cm is on the border of safe limits + proportions limits. 12 cm - 13 cm, 7/6 would better for recovery. I don't see too much of a difference between being 177 and 180. However, the difference in recovery of every cm is very big.
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2017, 04:07:07 AM »

Well I have a 175 cm wingspan considering my height is 165cm but my legs look short so proportions dont scare me, in fact it will make me look better than I am now. Any idea how long recovery takes for 15cm - 18cm if I were to do both in the same year?
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2017, 04:21:37 AM »

proportions dont scare me, in fact it will make me look better than I am now.
They might not scare you now and the second part could be wishful thinking and rationalization. You should listen to my advice.

Recovery is individual. And there's also difference between full consolidation and recovery. You may consolidate 15 cm in 1.5 years, 2 or 3 or potentially never (in case of nonunion). For recovery just multiply your consolidation time by 2 or 3.

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Pre-surgery - 167 cm, Post-surgery - 181 cm
Final arm span - 177 cm, Sitting height - 90 cm

Lengthened 7.5 cm in tibias and femurs and 3.5 cm in each humerus. Surgeries performed all external by Dr. Kulesh, in Saint-Petersburg, Russia - http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=1671.0

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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2017, 04:24:02 AM »

what is your pant inseam?
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2017, 04:26:54 AM »

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Lengthened 7.5 cm in tibias and femurs and 3.5 cm in each humerus. Surgeries performed all external by Dr. Kulesh, in Saint-Petersburg, Russia - http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=1671.0

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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2017, 04:29:53 AM »

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top 5 LL surgeons: Paley, Rozbruch, Mahboubian,  Donghoon Lee, Giotikas

- planning to have LON tibias with dr donghoon lee in summer 2021

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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2017, 08:04:01 AM »

:D 32"
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2017, 08:10:09 AM »

:D 32"

You have a 32 inseam at 165cm? Sorry man but it means you are long legged short torso. You can forget about 15cm
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2017, 09:43:51 AM »

:D 32"

yeah dude you have very long legs for your height.

I am 179 cm and wear only a 30 inseam
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2017, 01:52:29 PM »

  my bad, here its a little different meassurment. My pants are EURO 76cm.
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2017, 01:56:48 PM »

Whats a 179cm guy doing on this forum considering you have perfect height?
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2017, 05:50:00 PM »

Nobody is happy with what they've got  :(
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #49 on: August 16, 2017, 07:04:35 PM »

Whats a 179cm guy doing on this forum considering you have perfect height?
Its the same with rich people wanting more money. others may say they got a perfect amount of money but some rich people want more.
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« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2017, 11:27:21 PM »

I know what you mean but when your a guy and under 170cm it is really difficult, even more since I live in Ireland and the average is 178- 180cm. If I was average height I would have never found out about limb lenghthening.
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« Reply #51 on: August 17, 2017, 01:12:44 AM »

I know what you mean but when your a guy and under 170cm it is really difficult, even more since I live in Ireland and the average is 178- 180cm. If I was average height I would have never found out about limb lenghthening.
I agree with you and so do many others. If I was average height I probably wouldn't be here.
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« Reply #52 on: August 17, 2017, 02:43:19 AM »

The problem is that we less than average say "if only we were average". Then the average height guys say "I want to be tall to have the benefits of being tall". Then the tall guys say "My family are taller than me" "The people I am with are taller than me", etc etc.
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« Reply #53 on: August 17, 2017, 03:02:57 AM »

The problem is that we less than average say "if only we were average". Then the average height guys say "I want to be tall to have the benefits of being tall". Then the tall guys say "My family are taller than me" "The people I am with are taller than me", etc etc.
I know what you mean, but people who consider leg lengthening are a minority. Especially those near average height. short people just want to be normal so it makes sense why they would consider it but average height people or above considering this surgery doesn't make sense to me. Even if their family is taller than them, they are still within normal height range so going out in public they should feel normal.

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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #54 on: August 17, 2017, 06:33:53 AM »

Too much spare time in their lives, I mean like if I did not have issues with everyone towering over me I would not waste my time here. And 179cm is considered tall enough in many places.
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« Reply #55 on: August 17, 2017, 06:36:41 AM »

LOL Sure there are these idiots in one of the threads here who want to be 200cm! and their starting height is 190cm,
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Re: 20 cm possible?
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2017, 03:01:35 AM »

Whats a 179cm guy doing on this forum considering you have perfect height?

if its so perfect, why are you risking more to reach 183+? Why is your goal not 179 cm??

I am doing this surgery for 3-3.5 cm external tibias with Dr. Salameh
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4 cm internal femur with Dr Paley

to reach 182.5-183cm. Yes the very same height that you also want to be.
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top 5 LL surgeons: Paley, Rozbruch, Mahboubian,  Donghoon Lee, Giotikas

- planning to have LON tibias with dr donghoon lee in summer 2021

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« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2017, 03:02:06 AM »

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Goal: 182-183
top 5 LL surgeons: Paley, Rozbruch, Mahboubian,  Donghoon Lee, Giotikas

- planning to have LON tibias with dr donghoon lee in summer 2021
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