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[gxb]

Hello, has anyone had experience with the BETZ Nail, this is carried out in Germany. Any feedback would be great. Thanks

[Tallerin2025]

I am also thinking about going with Betz Nail and Dr. Becker in early 2025

[I want 8,07 cm]

Me too. Juni maybe juli

[shawtleg]

Hi, I am going through it right now. Currently I am at 6.3cm. You can watch my TikTok’s if you want to see some of the journey.

TikTok: @RoadTo170

All in all I would say it is - for the thing you do - a good experience. Being able to walk and bear weight on your legs is such a big relieve. I don’t have much pain while clicking. I also have a video on how it’s done on my page. With Betzbone you also have good bone growth because it is weight bearing. The team is also great, very supportive and always available for any questions or problems. So I would totally recommend it.

If you have any questions feel free to contact me on tiktok.

[Rockstarz5]

  You are german and speak german.. want brtznail but kind of afraid that you are in anither psrt of the world, alone with the legs breaks and because is rural germany I will have trouble with the lenguage, I dont know you need a medicine, were to eat, having a trouble with a leg, housing, whatever.. what do you think?

[shawtleg]

Yeah you will be totally fine. Everyone from the Dr Becker Team speaks english and Most of the staff from rehab. So there shouldnt be any Language Barrier. They will give you all the medicine you need for 6 months. Food is included in the Price so you don’t have to worry about where to get it. You can order from outside but you will get warm meals everyday which you can Choose from the menu. If you cant read it the rehab staff can explain it to you. Also they can pick you up from the Airport and bring you there.

When i was in rehab i saw 5 other people going through it. Just one of them could speak german and the other ones lived outside from europe. I am totally sure you wont have any Problems there with language food medicine or anything. And if you have they will solve it. But i mean its a big step, and it is intimidating to fly to another Place and get very vulnerable. But thats just something you have to decide or someone Else maybe can comment on that.

[gxb]

How long did you stay at the clinic or in hospital?  and after did you stay close to the clinic for the stretching and rehab as most limb lengthening centres want you to stay close for 3 months till the end of distraction phase.

[shawtleg]

I stayed 4 days in hospital and 10 days in rehab. Then I went home. If you want you can stay there. You will get free massages, pt and so on. But you have to pay for accommodation. I preferred to go home because I didn’t need it and I didn’t want to loose my every day life.

Like this I went to shows, cinema, shopping and everything. I even can drive a car. Which is mentally really relieving. So you can stay here for 2 weeks in Germany or as long as you wish and return to your country back. And after a few years you come back to remove the nail. And that’s it. You don’t need to stay away from family and friends, and even go to work if you are working on a desk. I mean how much better can it get. I mean it’s still a hard process with pain and uncomfiness. But how much better can it get to stretch your legs by a good amount of centimeters

[gxb]

Thank you so much for responding and providing this information. Its very useful for me to help me make up my mind.

How did you find the clicking? Was it painful and easy to do?

In general, what was the pain like after the operation and during lengthening?

[lucindaris]

How many centimeters are you going to do?

[shawtleg]

I have to say that my journey was very smooth. Clicking for me was the whole time pretty much good without much pain. I had just 1 or 2 days where it hurt a lot. But I also have to tell you that some people have more pain when clicking especially when your bones heal fast. I don’t know if there is a way to determine if clicking will hurt but I would say it’s a thing you have to find out. But there are ways to get past that… I have 2 videos on my TikTok page where I do it. Clicking takes me now (3 months after surgery) around 3 minutes. In the beginning it took longer around 20min in total.

Pain after surgery wasn’t a big of a deal. But I have to say I have good pain tolerance and it was my first surgery. Also you get good pain killers. After surgery I did take oxycodon for a few days then I switched to tilidin. It was still good. Later on I also reduced the dosage of tilidin. And if you have pain, there is always stronger medication… but it depends a lot on your body and how it reacts to it. During lengthening I had somephases that hurt more. It was when I was still finding the rhythm for my medication. For me during the day everything was fine, but at night it started to hurt. So delayed my medication to get more coverage at night. Also I took my tilidin right before sleeping because it makes you sleepy so it’s win win haha. After around 6cm nerve pain started for me. I got medication for that, so now I don’t have that right now.

 I am not sure how many cm I should do actually. My goal at the beginning was 12cm but I am scared of the long term problems. So I probably will stop at 10cm.

[gxb]

thanks so much for outlining your experience. i appreciate it.

[gxb]

i will be aiming for 8cm on the femur

[GrowGrow123]

The Betz nail is an outdate piece of limb lengthening technology. Precice is the most state of the art. I would go for the Betz nail only if you absolutely need to be walking as fast as possible (eg. your job requires it) and Precice Max isn't an option.

[Tallerin2025]

The Betz nail is an outdate piece of limb lengthening technology. Precice is the most state of the art. I would go for the Betz nail only if you absolutely need to be walking as fast as possible (eg. your job requires it) and Precice Max isn't an option.

Why do you think it is outdated I think the big benefit is the full weight nail

[Petm]

What a hilarious thread. Do not take advice from a guy that is saying physical therapy is unnecessary as you're undergoing limb lengthening surgery. I'm not shooting down the betz here, but when the muscles stretch, they need to be monitored.

[Tallerin2025]

Hey I think Mr- Becker changed that a lot I have for example a pre stretching protocol which I should do 6-8 weeks before after that there is a daily stretching of 3h/day required they have also now a stretching app for that

[Petm]

I wasn't referring to Betz Becker, my response was aimed towards the user in the thread recommending to do it, go home the next week, go to to normal life, choose your own height goal without the doctor's input, take some pain killers.....

Sounds like someone advertising claims LL institute in Turkey almost. A home regiment or going to a physical therapist that's not experienced in LL is also insufficient. The more you skimp during distraction & recovery with highly trained people, the higher the risk for short/long term complications. If you're in distraction, you're still undergoing an operation and you should be closely monitored.

[KiloKAHN]

The nail is okay, but there are better options. The biggest downfall of the Betzbone and G-Nail are that there is no way to go backwards, which can result in unintentional distraction and non-union, which happened to another user as seen here:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=3560.0

[Petm]

There is a MASSIVE market for weight bearing nails and as much as they want to sell it like it's some unique amazing design....Betz and G-Nail aren't crazy ingenious. They sacrifice safety, accuracy and success features that Precise 2 has in exchange for freeing up internal space for more weight bearing support. There's a reason why those nails aren't offered anywhere else and Giotkis even offers tons of options other than the G-Nail. If Turkish surgeons offered Betz the same $ they pay nuvasive for precise 2, betz would 100% sell it to them. But precise is safer, even the butchers of Turkey recognize that, so nobody buys the betz. As long as it's been around and other surgeons still opt to use the Precise 2.2, says a lot.

[Tallerin2025]

There is a MASSIVE market for weight bearing nails and as much as they want to sell it like it's some unique amazing design....Betz and G-Nail aren't crazy ingenious. They sacrifice safety, accuracy and success features that Precise 2 has in exchange for freeing up internal space for more weight bearing support. There's a reason why those nails aren't offered anywhere else and Giotkis even offers tons of options other than the G-Nail. If Turkish surgeons offered Betz the same $ they pay nuvasive for precise 2, betz would 100% sell it to them. But precise is safer, even the butchers of Turkey recognize that, so nobody buys the betz. As long as it's been around and other surgeons still opt to use the Precise 2.2, says a lot.

thanks for your the answer Could be, but I think all 3 are good options, I haven read anything going wrong with Betz Nail yet - I just like the fact that you are able full weight bearing - not sure if that is better due to the recovery as well as preventing fat embolism

[Petm]

I mean just some lawsuits, a death here and there but no biggie. If they were that good, they'd be everywhere. No competent limb lengthening surgeon will let you leave while you're lengthening unless if he truly dgaf. Even in India, South Korea, Turkey, South Africa, Greece they all watch you during the lengthening....But betz nah....once that nail is in....all good see ya. ✌

[Barbaric]

I mean just some lawsuits, a death here and there but no biggie. If they were that good, they'd be everywhere. No competent limb lengthening surgeon will let you leave while you're lengthening unless if he truly dgaf. Even in India, South Korea, Turkey, South Africa, Greece they all watch you during the lengthening....But betz nah....once that nail is in....all good see ya. ✌

Jesus i was about to book surgery from betz 🤯 then i decided to LON🤷🏻‍♂️

[Tallerin2025]

Jesus i was about to book surgery from betz 🤯 then i decided to LON🤷🏻‍♂️

There haven't been any death cases under Betz especially not under Becker - Betz Nail will be for sure much safer and you wanna go for 6-7 what I saw in your post