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way2short

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Shoelifts or/and elevator shoes after LL?
« on: October 10, 2024, 08:00:21 PM »

Would it be a problem?
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Re: Shoelifts or/and elevator shoes after LL?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2024, 10:11:44 PM »

...but why?  That's why you would get cll
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Re: Shoelifts or/and elevator shoes after LL?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2024, 12:37:48 AM »

he might still be short even after cll (?) idk
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Re: Shoelifts or/and elevator shoes after LL?
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2024, 05:50:11 AM »

he might still be short even after cll (?) idk
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Re: Shoelifts or/and elevator shoes after LL?
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2024, 06:34:03 AM »

Legit only if you lengthen your femurs only or both, femur and tibia. Will look shiet if you do tibia more than 4 cm and then wear 5 cm elevators on top of that though.

IMO, do 6.5 cm femur and then wear 5 cm quality elevator shoes or sneakers until you get your tibia done in the future. If you ever get the tibia done for another 5 cm though, wearing lifts will make sense in only special occasions, not for everyday life.
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Re: Shoelifts or/and elevator shoes after LL?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2024, 06:58:08 AM »

Legit only if you lengthen your femurs only or both, femur and tibia. Will look shiet if you do tibia more than 4 cm and then wear 5 cm elevators on top of that though.
I was thinking

IMO, do 6.5 cm femur and then wear 5 cm quality elevator shoes or sneakers until you get your tibia done in the future. If you ever get the tibia done for another 5 cm though, wearing lifts will make sense in only special occasions, not for everyday life.
I was thinking 8 or 10 cm femurs
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Re: Shoelifts or/and elevator shoes after LL?
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2024, 07:09:27 AM »

You will look odd if you go past 6.5 cm in femur without doing tibia after.

While 8 cm is doable, 10 cm is overkill and will be too hard to lengthen that much.

Only do 8 cm if you plan to lengthen your tibia in the future but you have to mask the odd tib/femur ratio with right clothes and shoes until then so I don't think you'll be comfortable going to the beach for example, but it's the tradeoff only you have to decide: lengthen the max within the safe limits and look a bit odd or stop early before you exceed acceptable tib/femur ratio and look more or less normal. That mark is at around 6 cm for femurs.

Guys doing 8 or 9 cm in femurs only at livelifetaller look way too unnatural.

This is 9 cm in femurs only, his arms are way distant against his knees and his knees are at a comically low height compared to femur length:

https://scontent.ftbs6-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/325724313_1142162966503283_8070535803637025590_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=1JRdZu78C5YQ7kNvgEJaNIt&_nc_ht=scontent.ftbs6-2.fna&_nc_gid=Ap64CkBZTj0MMFD8jcDFK5b&oh=00_AYAKMP2uZKe8hgb6A49iSYj8q0kT-GnHvtULuhHCURpI-Q&oe=670EAEED

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Re: Shoelifts or/and elevator shoes after LL?
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2024, 07:22:42 AM »

You will look odd if you go past 6.5 cm in femur without doing tibia after.

While 8 cm is doable, 10 cm is overkill and will be too hard to lengthen that much.

Only do 8 cm if you plan to lengthen your tibia in the future but you have to mask the odd tib/femur ratio with right clothes and shoes until then so I don't think you'll be comfortable going to the beach for example, but it's the tradeoff only you have to decide: lengthen the max within the safe limits and look a bit odd or stop early before you exceed acceptable tib/femur ratio and look more or less normal. That mark is at around 6 cm for femurs.

Guys doing 8 or 9 cm in femurs only at livelifetaller look way too unnatural.

This is 9 cm in femurs only, his arms are way distant against his knees and his knees are at a comically low height compared to femur length:

https://scontent.ftbs6-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/325724313_1142162966503283_8070535803637025590_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=1JRdZu78C5YQ7kNvgEJaNIt&_nc_ht=scontent.ftbs6-2.fna&_nc_gid=Ap64CkBZTj0MMFD8jcDFK5b&oh=00_AYAKMP2uZKe8hgb6A49iSYj8q0kT-GnHvtULuhHCURpI-Q&oe=670EAEED
Yes im planning on doing tibias and no i dont really mind the proportions tbh i think i can go through it
Do u think LON on femurs would be a good idea? Or quadrilateral precice on femurs and lon on tibias?
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Re: Shoelifts or/and elevator shoes after LL?
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2024, 07:45:05 AM »

Forget about quadrilateral as it will ruin your recovery rate and will get you disabled for years.

Regarding LON femur, it's not a good idea indeed but doable if and only if you stop at between 5-6 cm mark. ROM will still be limited but it will recover much quickly compared with 8-10 cm most guys do in Turkey with LON femur.

Tibia can be done for 4-4.5 cm with external only with decent orthopedic surgeon who knows how to manipulate the external frames and make the bones as straight as possible before consolidation phase. 4-4.5 cm will take at worst 9 months and at best 4-5 months in frames so it's definitely worth it when doing that low amount because you get rid of nailing insertion and removal surgeries in that case which is additional cost, invasiveness and risks, especially for tibia.

IMO, if you are ok with 5.5 cm femur, you can do LON with to save the costs, but only with reputable doc who will monitor your case closely and will treat you promptly if difficulties arise in the process. Disadvantages are ugly scars and limited ROM but with 5.5 cm, ROM will return quickly and scars can be dealt later. It will be much cheaper than doing Precice but with added risks like infections for example. But, 5.5 cm on femur won't shift your mech axis to a same degree if you do 8 cm for example so you will not get deformed legs which is another plus stopping at that range.

IMO, first do femur for 5.5 cm which will take exactly 2 months, then recover for another 2 months in order to get the sufficient ROM back and then go and break the tibia with fully external frames for 4.5 cm which will take between 5-9 months in frames. This is the most realistic goal for someone on tight budget and who wants to lengthen proportionally and get solid 10 cm height. Rather than maxing out femur at 8 or 9 cm, it's way safer doing 5.5 / 4.5 split in terms of risks, recovery and final gains / aesthetic results. The only downside is more time and money is needed but not that much for it to not worth it.
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Re: Shoelifts or/and elevator shoes after LL?
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2024, 08:18:48 AM »

Forget about quadrilateral as it will ruin your recovery rate and will get you disabled for years.

Regarding LON femur, it's not a good idea indeed but doable if and only if you stop at between 5-6 cm mark. ROM will still be limited but it will recover much quickly compared with 8-10 cm most guys do in Turkey with LON femur.

Tibia can be done for 4-4.5 cm with external only with decent orthopedic surgeon who knows how to manipulate the external frames and make the bones as straight as possible before consolidation phase. 4-4.5 cm will take at worst 9 months and at best 4-5 months in frames so it's definitely worth it when doing that low amount because you get rid of nailing insertion and removal surgeries in that case which is additional cost, invasiveness and risks, especially for tibia.

IMO, if you are ok with 5.5 cm femur, you can do LON with to save the costs, but only with reputable doc who will monitor your case closely and will treat you promptly if difficulties arise in the process. Disadvantages are ugly scars and limited ROM but with 5.5 cm, ROM will return quickly and scars can be dealt later. It will be much cheaper than doing Precice but with added risks like infections for example. But, 5.5 cm on femur won't shift your mech axis to a same degree if you do 8 cm for example so you will not get deformed legs which is another plus stopping at that range.

IMO, first do femur for 5.5 cm which will take exactly 2 months, then recover for another 2 months in order to get the sufficient ROM back and then go and break the tibia with fully external frames for 4.5 cm which will take between 5-9 months in frames. This is the most realistic goal for someone on tight budget and who wants to lengthen proportionally and get solid 10 cm height. Rather than maxing out femur at 8 or 9 cm, it's way safer doing 5.5 / 4.5 split in terms of risks, recovery and final gains / aesthetic results. The only downside is more time and money is needed but not that much for it to not worth it.
Thanks
Thats sad since i would only be 5'10 after all that
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Re: Shoelifts or/and elevator shoes after LL?
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2024, 08:36:44 AM »

5'10 is enough, I will only be 5'9 after 10 cm LL so what? As long as you end up closer to average height with LL it's worth it at the end of the day.

I have to go for 6 fkin inches to reach almost 6 feet which will be too much for me and for anyone IMO doing 6 inches. It's just way too much. Even 5 inches is way too much. 4.5 inches is the max and even that is too much. 3.5-4 inches total from double LL is enough for anybody at any starting height and will change the their lives. Short guy will become average and average will become tall, that's it. The first one will get rid of height disadvantage and the second one will get height halo. IMO the first one will get the most ROI escaping the height disadvantage and will be justified doing LL rather than the second one who has no disadvantage but tries to gain advantage with such a traumatic surgery. It's all about getting rid of disadvantage of shortness with LL, I see it that way.
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Re: Shoelifts or/and elevator shoes after LL?
« Reply #11 on: Today at 03:41:27 AM »

Hopefully, you wouldn't feel the need to use shoelifts anymore after doing limb lengthening. That being said, it shouldn't be an issue if you want to do so. It might even be a bit of an aesthetic improvement after femur lengthening specifically since it will balance your femurs and tibias more.
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