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[AAAAA]

Hi yall, I am a 32 yo guy from California, USA who is around 183cm barefoot, 185cm in shoes. I would like to get as close to 200cm as possible. One of the reasons I want to get taller is to be the best version of my self and I also come from a tallish family and I am the runt of the family(dad is 188+cm, grandfather was around 195cm). Additionally my girlfriend is signifcantly taller than me about 190-193cm. I also come from a basketball backround where my height very short. I don't really care about proportions. The main thing that is holding me back from getting the surgery is finances. Currently saving up for it, and I would like to get the surgery around 1-2 years from now. Haven't chosen a surgeon yet. Would like to get some information about preparing for the surgeries and connect to like minded people.

[Barishe]

Hi, I'm 1m87 and I've been researching for weeks to make my decision.
My situation is not totally the same as you, I am already the tallest in my family, and also money is not that much of a problem.
 I've just always been strong and athletic, and I saw myself better at 1m95/2M
Frankly everyone advised me against this operation, even the surgeons. It is very risky and disabling.
 
Personally I preferred to see a psychologist to get this idea out of my head.
It is an operation intended for those who are less than 1m70 and who experience this as a handicap in life.

 For us it's luxury

 Good luck

[Robert Adam]

https://limblengthening.org/lengthening-options/

+ 17 cm ?

Only  COMBINED TIBIA & FEMUR

(UP TO 4CM FOR EACH)

[onedaytall]

Are you really that unhappy? Why?

[AAAAA]

Hi, I'm 1m87 and I've been researching for weeks to make my decision.
My situation is not totally the same as you, I am already the tallest in my family, and also money is not that much of a problem.
 I've just always been strong and athletic, and I saw myself better at 1m95/2M
Frankly everyone advised me against this operation, even the surgeons. It is very risky and disabling.
 
Personally I preferred to see a psychologist to get this idea out of my head.
It is an operation intended for those who are less than 1m70 and who experience this as a handicap in life.

 For us it's luxury

 Good luck

For me I am already locked into to go ahead with the surgeries. I have been interested in it for a while. ~183cm in my environment is quite short as most of players on my team are already 200+cm, with some being well over 7 feet.

From what I know about the surgeries they aren't particularly risky, the recovery time is a while though. Any surgery has its risks. I am thinking about getting around 2-3 main surgeries to reach the 200cm. Haven't chosen the doctor, or technique yet.

[Metaphyglv]

Nah dude, i'm 158 cm tall as an adult male and sometimes i think this surgery its a crazy option and is not worth it the risks. You probably need a psychologist first, i would strongly recommend to you any who has a behavioral background.
It's risky, not like a rhinoplasty but highly invasive. with the right doctor not that risky but still risky anyway

[onedaytall]

Would like to get some information about preparing for the surgeries and connect to like minded people.

For information this forum is a good place. For like minded people you wont find many here. Here you find short / average height people who are willing to invest a house payment and go through torture to be your height. Most of these guys if they were blessed with taller genes like yours, they would not even dream about a surgery like this. You think just because you want to be taller just like them, you are "just like them".

[AnotherLLer]

Nah dude, i'm 158 cm tall as an adult male and sometimes i think this surgery its a crazy option and is not worth it the risks. You probably need a psychologist first, i would strongly recommend to you any who has a behavioral background.
It's risky, not like a rhinoplasty but highly invasive. with the right doctor not that risky but still risky anyway

158 as an adult male is comically short so you have to get double LL of 4 inches and then wear 1 inch lifts to stand at a solid 170. Below 170 is tough.

I am strong 165 male with 22 inch untrained bideltoid, 69 inch armspan and large skull. My legs are comically short for my torso as if I was dwarved by some magic spell in my legs. It makes me look even shorter than I am, although huge frame and narrow waist / hips in relation to shoulders helps in that regard when wearing long, high waist paints with elevator boots.

I just can't imagine living all my remaining life at this height and with this short legs. Honestly, I just want to become a leggy version of myself in order to appear taller in photos and IRL. I think that I can get away up to 16 cm of LL (10 cm in femurs and 6 cm in tibia) but it's risky AF. 13 cm (8 cm in femurs and 5 cm in tibia) is realistic for me and my legs will be matched to my torso then. I can always wear 2 inch shoes to appear 6 feet.

Since you're 158 cm, you're limited to your shoulder width, arm length, skull size and torso length. 4 inches is max IMO until you start look unacceptable. At 168 you can wear 2 inch shoes and appear solid 170 to other people and since you live in LATAM, 170 is OK height there to live life to the fullest.

Just don't become paranoid and go for it, dude. I'm too afraid of this surgery but it's either risking or remaining manlet forever. I'm going to start with femur and lengthen until I can't tolerate more. Then, wait for about 3 months and go for full external tibia for 2 inches.

Since you have shorter legs, 6 cm in femur and 4 cm in tibia is the best split for you. 10 cm will change your life and put you at a normal short height from outlier short height you have now.

[Barishe]

AAAAA >

If I understood correctly, after this operation you will no longer really be able to play basketball... Just a little light weight training, at the limit...

Well it's up to you, here is the journey of a guy who went from 1m82 to 1m98:

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=79665.0

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGe7X13Kg/

You can find interviews with him on youtube, he is known as "Hulk of Livelifetaller"
 He also had an Instagram page, but it no longer exists, according to rumors due to his health problems following the operation...

[AnotherLLer]

He also had an Instagram page, but it no longer exists, according to rumors due to his health problems following the operation...

What happened to that guy?

[Barishe]

I had read on the forum that he had unfortunately had complications after the operation, and that he preferred to leave social networks.
Maybe he regrets

[YOUNGandSTRONG]

Hope he's ok. Doing LL in 2024 seems to be harder than a decade ago

[YOUNGandSTRONG]

158 as an adult male is comically short so you have to get double LL of 4 inches and then wear 1 inch lifts to stand at a solid 170. Below 170 is tough.
















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[AnotherLLer]

I had read on the forum that he had unfortunately had complications after the operation, and that he preferred to leave social networks.
Maybe he regrets

Maybe it's related to his massive upper body and his weight negatively affected the nails inside his bones in the legs.

The other black guy (the rapper) seems to be fine after 6 inches of LL though. He's still recovering but his progress looks good and IMO he will recover sooner or later.

[VertiCali]

AAAAA >

If I understood correctly, after this operation you will no longer really be able to play basketball... Just a little light weight training, at the limit...

Well it's up to you, here is the journey of a guy who went from 1m82 to 1m98:

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=79665.0

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGe7X13Kg/

You can find interviews with him on youtube, he is known as "Hulk of Livelifetaller"
 He also had an Instagram page, but it no longer exists, according to rumors due to his health problems following the operation...

Who was his doctor? They should have tried to talk him out of it. IMO anyone who's in the 6.0+ range who wants to get CLL should receive a proper psych eval b/c that's just not normal. This poor guy looks really horrible post-surgery with noticeably crooked legs (which I suspect is due to the fact that he used LON, but still).

If you're 6 foot tall and you think you're short, what you are suffering from is likely a mental condition, not physical. You have a distorted perception of reality. If I were the OP, I would seriously reconsider this procedure. The rewards are minimal for the amount of risk you are taking.

The risk/reward sweet spot for CLL is probably 170cm -> 180cm.

[Barishe]

Her doctor is Halil Buldu of LiveLifeTaller.
They are known for advertising on social media, sometimes offering deals to smaller influencers. In order to have visibility.
They seem to think that for profit

Personally I spoke with the boss of WannaBeTaller. He advised me against doing the operation, he himself went from 1m60 to 1m72, and he doesn't even know if he would do it again if he had to do it again.

And yes as you say the psychologist before embarking on the operation can put the ideas back in place
For my part, I didn't feel small, but as I had grown very quickly and was 1m85 tall at 14/15 years old, I always had a bitter feeling of not having grown up after 15 years like most people. . I really thought I was going to be 2m

 The psychologist allowed me to mourn this and accept my current size

[Barishe]

The channel of the boss of WannaBeTaller where he talks about his personal experience, he is honest because he advises people against doing this operation as much as possible, even if it means making less profit:

[heightiseverything]

Who was his doctor? They should have tried to talk him out of it. IMO anyone who's in the 6.0+ range who wants to get CLL should receive a proper psych eval b/c that's just not normal. This poor guy looks really horrible post-surgery with noticeably crooked legs (which I suspect is due to the fact that he used LON, but still).

If you're 6 foot tall and you think you're short, what you are suffering from is likely a mental condition, not physical. You have a distorted perception of reality. If I were the OP, I would seriously reconsider this procedure. The rewards are minimal for the amount of risk you are taking.

The risk/reward sweet spot for CLL is probably 170cm -> 180cm.

There is a reason this surgery is called cosmetic. It is up for individual to decide if they wish to change their height or not. At 183 cm you can even lengthen more because your bones are longer though.

[Barishe]

Yes DR. Bilgili told me he could add me 9cm instead of the 8cm max on the femur

[VertiCali]

There is a reason this surgery is called cosmetic. It is up for individual to decide if they wish to change their height or not. At 183 cm you can even lengthen more because your bones are longer though.

I never said they should be prevented. It's obviously up to the individual. It's your right to smoke as well. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be advised against it.

To be clear, the question here isn't whether you can lengthen more at 183cm or not. That's beside the point. Aside from the fact that the person we saw in that video had a terrible looking outcome, the general point is that if you are that tall and you think you're short, you have a warped sense of reality. Psychological help is more likely to alleviate your issue than anything physical.

A person who is 160cm tall is not being delusional about their height if they think they're short. A person who is 183cm tall absolutely is. I can understand wanting to go from 180 to 185 with a single procedure just for the aesthetics. But feeling the need to do 15cm for someone who is already tall is absurd imo. It's a lot of risk for very little reward. You quickly reach a point of diminishing returns once you're past 185cm. After 189cm, it's pure risk with basically zero reward.

I understand this guy seems to partly want to do it for athletic reasons, but that makes it an even worse idea given the well documented loss in athleticism.

[AnotherLLer]

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[DanishViking]

So your're born with a perfect height, even according to most women, and you will like to ruin that... For what? Not being extremely tall? Bruh.

[AAAAA]

Nah dude, i'm 158 cm tall as an adult male and sometimes i think this surgery its a crazy option and is not worth it the risks. You probably need a psychologist first, i would strongly recommend to you any who has a behavioral background.
It's risky, not like a rhinoplasty but highly invasive. with the right doctor not that risky but still risky anyway

I have talked to a psychologist and it has just reaffirmed me doing it. Yeah it has long recovery, but definitely worth it. The results you get are for decades.

For information this forum is a good place. For like minded people you wont find many here. Here you find short / average height people who are willing to invest a house payment and go through torture to be your height. Most of these guys if they were blessed with taller genes like yours, they would not even dream about a surgery like this. You think just because you want to be taller just like them, you are "just like them".

We are all in this together. A significant amount of people on here share a common goal of getting taller. Compared to all my family and friends 183cm is among the shortest. Environment definitely has something to do with it, as human height varies quite a bit.

AAAAA >

If I understood correctly, after this operation you will no longer really be able to play basketball... Just a little light weight training, at the limit...

Well it's up to you, here is the journey of a guy who went from 1m82 to 1m98:

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=79665.0

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGe7X13Kg/

You can find interviews with him on youtube, he is known as "Hulk of Livelifetaller"
 He also had an Instagram page, but it no longer exists, according to rumors due to his health problems following the operation...

Yeah I saw his story. I wonder how he is doing now, I am not aware of a update since April of this year. As for athletic performance, I believe one surgery will actually boost my performance. Additionally I am already 32, so I am on the tail end of my athletic career.

So your're born with a perfect height, even according to most women, and you will like to ruin that... For what? Not being extremely tall? Bruh.

183cm is definitely not ideal for me when it comes to dating. The women I typically go for are basketball players/model look and they average taller me, and thats not factoring in heels.

[onedaytall]

I have talked to a psychologist and it has just reaffirmed me doing it. Yeah it has long recovery, but definitely worth it. The results you get are for decades.

We are all in this together. A significant amount of people on here share a common goal of getting taller. Compared to all my family and friends 183cm is among the shortest. Environment definitely has something to do with it, as human height varies quite a bit.

Yeah I saw his story. I wonder how he is doing now, I am not aware of a update since April of this year. As for athletic performance, I believe one surgery will actually boost my performance. Additionally I am already 32, so I am on the tail end of my athletic career.

183cm is definitely not ideal for me when it comes to dating. The women I typically go for are basketball players/model look and they average taller me, and thats not factoring in heels.

If you feel you want be with women who are taller than 183 and that you want the surgery, then sure. That's the first actually goodish reason I've heard from you and I wish you success. The athletism stuff is total BS and you should know it if you are an actual athlete and know anything about the surgery. No-one has come out of this surgery more athletic than before. You intend to be the first one? Are you sure you're not a boxer who's got hit in the head a few times too many?

183cm is tall. You are tall. You are above average even in Denmark. You say "we are all in this together" to short people. That's like a millionaire saying to homeless people "we are all trying to make ends meet". You don't seem to grasp basic reality. You are tall. It is not an opinion, nor is it a matter of location (although slightly). Just because you associate with only tall people and want to date the tallest women in the world, doesn't mean you are not also tall.

But yeah go for the surgery. Wishing you success, let us know how the athletism turns out

[Barishe]

I have yet to see any “homeless people” on this site. No one has dwarfism, most of those who want to have surgery are around 1m70, which remains a normal and socially acceptable height.

[heightiseverything]

I have yet to see any “homeless people” on this site. No one has dwarfism, most of those who want to have surgery are around 1m70, which remains a normal and socially acceptable height.

Depends where you are from, you can't pick a height and say that objectively. Being 170 cm in the tallest country, where all my friends are above 185 cm, is a truly dehumanizing experience and is equivalent to being 5'2 in USA.

[Body Builder]

I have talked to a psychologist and it has just reaffirmed me doing it. Yeah it has long recovery, but definitely worth it. The results you get are for decades.

We are all in this together. A significant amount of people on here share a common goal of getting taller. Compared to all my family and friends 183cm is among the shortest. Environment definitely has something to do with it, as human height varies quite a bit.

Yeah I saw his story. I wonder how he is doing now, I am not aware of a update since April of this year. As for athletic performance, I believe one surgery will actually boost my performance. Additionally I am already 32, so I am on the tail end of my athletic career.

183cm is definitely not ideal for me when it comes to dating. The women I typically go for are basketball players/model look and they average taller me, and thats not factoring in heels.

At 32, after LL for sure you won't have any athletic carreer.
Thats guaranteed.
Everything else about dating models etc are plain bs. Most models are below 1.80 and don't want much taller men than them but they need status and wealth most of the times. So LL won't fix anything.

You simply have mental issues, especially since you want to do 2 LLs at that height with crazy amounts either, and I really doubt any sane doctor would operate you. Of course there are always the crooks from Turkey that would do LL even to Shaquile Oneil for money.

[AnotherLLer]

At 32, after LL for sure you won't have any athletic carreer.
Thats guaranteed.
Everything else about dating models etc are plain bs. Most models are below 1.80 and don't want much taller men than them but they need status and wealth most of the times. So LL won't fix anything.

You simply have mental issues, especially since you want to do 2 LLs at that height with crazy amounts either, and I really doubt any sane doctor would operate you. Of course there are always the crooks from Turkey that would do LL even to Shaquile Oneil for money.

Yeah, I agree with you, most top models are between 173-180, on average, 176 cm tall and most of them are okay dating at least strong 175 guys with status obviously. This is their dating requirement but some of them might fk even a 5'5 guy if they find them attractive and don't give a fk about other people's opinion. Now, obviously, they won't date guys below 5'9 for sure, but for hooking up, even top models at 176 cm tall might fk short guys, so we have to distinguish LTR and ONS affairs of top model girls here.

Now, obviously, the safe height to date those top models is at least 180 cm tall but at 175 cm is still managable since Statham is 175.

Funny thing is that Adriana Lima once said that she doesn't date guys below 200 cm and is now married to a guy who stands at 175 cm at best. I bet she fked with many 165-175 cm guys in her youth, although didn't date them indeed.

So, for someone who wants do date model girls, at least strong 175 cm barefeet height is needed with status and money. For slaying them, at least 173 cm with great body with tatts & tan is needed along with well above average face. Basically, at a strong 175 cm one is able to both, slay and date those girls, at least most of them.

And, regarding comment on Shaquille, even Paley would operate him since he removed the upper height limit. So, in that case, even Paley is unethical too.

[Rotting]

PLEASE do the procedure. Nothing would make me happier then seeing an already tall, insecure mentally unwell tall fxg get botched and mutilated. By all means. Please go and do the surgery, preferably in India. They’ll give you the quality your looking for🖕🏽

[AAAAA]

If you feel you want be with women who are taller than 183 and that you want the surgery, then sure. That's the first actually goodish reason I've heard from you and I wish you success. The athletism stuff is total BS and you should know it if you are an actual athlete and know anything about the surgery. No-one has come out of this surgery more athletic than before. You intend to be the first one? Are you sure you're not a boxer who's got hit in the head a few times too many?

183cm is tall. You are tall. You are above average even in Denmark. You say "we are all in this together" to short people. That's like a millionaire saying to homeless people "we are all trying to make ends meet". You don't seem to grasp basic reality. You are tall. It is not an opinion, nor is it a matter of location (although slightly). Just because you associate with only tall people and want to date the tallest women in the world, doesn't mean you are not also tall.

But yeah go for the surgery. Wishing you success, let us know how the athletism turns out

The reason I am optimistic about athletic ability after 1-2 years after the first LL surgery is because I have a friend who is a Pro Basketball player who went from 188cm to 196cm and he has noticed a positive difference, he also got the surgery when he was 18 though. The average height among countries doesn't really matter to me, I find what is more important is my family and friends. I am open to connecting to people of all heights, it just happens my kin are a little taller. Yes, when it's comes to dating my preference is the taller the better.

Aye I wouldn't say it's that extreme. I might be slightly taller than the average person looking to get LL surgery but not much.

At 32, after LL for sure you won't have any athletic carreer.
Thats guaranteed.
Everything else about dating models etc are plain bs. Most models are below 1.80 and don't want much taller men than them but they need status and wealth most of the times. So LL won't fix anything.

You simply have mental issues, especially since you want to do 2 LLs at that height with crazy amounts either, and I really doubt any sane doctor would operate you. Of course there are always the crooks from Turkey that would do LL even to Shaquile Oneil for money.

Nearly all the women I have ever met want a guy at a bare minimum to be taller than them. Id say the average female model is around 175-178cm, but the ones I have dated averaged about 185cm, the basketball players were about 193cm. I have already expiremented with shoe lifts/boots to test out various heights and the taller I am the better the results. 200cm is the tallest height I have tested out and I have noticed a huge positive difference between that and ~185cm factoring in shoes.

Yes status and wealth are definitely factors as well and I am working on those as well. I am striving to be the best in all areas.

PLEASE do the procedure. Nothing would make me happier then seeing an already tall, insecure mentally unwell tall fxg get botched and mutilated. By all means. Please go and do the surgery, preferably in India. They’ll give you the quality your looking for🖕🏽

I don't consider myself tall especially when I am playing basketball and when I am around my family/friends. I am not insecure, looking to be the best version of myself. My height is decent, it has the potential to be way better though. Haven't decided where I am getting the surgery yet, probably won't be in the US. Thinking about possibly Germany.

[jbfjbj4]

None of you are dating 'top models' either before or after LL, get bloody real. This is like where every other person online claims to be a millionaire but I've never met anyone online making minimum wage, ever.

Lol if you think you're good looking enough, rich enough, have the status, or will be even around the social circles where VS models will be asking for your number. Anyone who thinks that is utterly deluded. LL, if you're short, will help you pull more below average-above average girls (you know, the girls in that middle 80% bracket that make up the vast majority of any guys sex life, including Chads). 

Just because your ex was 175cm doesn't make her a model. I guarantee Cosmo or Vogue weren't trying to get her on the front page. Get back in reality.