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[Tallerin2025]

Hey guys,

I wanna do an internal femurs lengthening in early 2025! Some personal informations about me I am around 174 - 175 tall depending on the time of the day! I know that this is not small but I am struggling with it now over I would say 10 years (currently 28y old) My goal is to lengthen up to 7cm what makes me around 1,82 or 1,83! Also 6 cm or if the process is going well 8 is an option for me but I want to lower the risk as much as I can. What I heard 7 cm is still in a good safe zone but every extra cm is increasing the risk a lot? What is your opinion here? How much would you go for?

I did a lot of research + visited 2 of the best doctors in my opinion which I can afford (Dr. Giotikas + Dr. Becker) both of them made a really good first impression on me! So I currently struggling with a decision.

Giotikas: Is cheaper around 10.000€ I would stay with the total costs + I stayed here in contact with ex patients of them which I met at the hospital and everyone had a good recovery and all of them are back to the normal life without any negative impacts from the surgery.

Dr. Becker: Also here I got a really good first impression + I read a lot of good forum entries but I am also read a lot messages about fake diaries and so on. Here I haven't met ex patients yet. A big + as well is that I am from Germany so the clinic is actually just 2 hours from me what makes it more easy for me!

Maybe anyone from you visited also both doctors? Why did you decide for Giotikas or Dr. Becker/Betz?

Would be really thankful for some advice? All the best to you guys

[Tallerin2025]

I am also thinking to visit dr. Birkholz as he is in the same price range If we can compare those 3 doctors

[Bagga]

Hey guys,

I wanna do an internal femurs lengthening in early 2025! Some personal informations about me I am around 174 - 175 tall depending on the time of the day! I know that this is not small but I am struggling with it now over I would say 10 years (currently 28y old) My goal is to lengthen up to 7cm what makes me around 1,82 or 1,83! Also 6 cm or if the process is going well 8 is an option for me but I want to lower the risk as much as I can. What I heard 7 cm is still in a good safe zone but every extra cm is increasing the risk a lot? What is your opinion here? How much would you go for?

I did a lot of research + visited 2 of the best doctors in my opinion which I can afford (Dr. Giotikas + Dr. Becker) both of them made a really good first impression on me! So I currently struggling with a decision.

Giotikas: Is cheaper around 10.000€ I would stay with the total costs + I stayed here in contact with ex patients of them which I met at the hospital and everyone had a good recovery and all of them are back to the normal life without any negative impacts from the surgery.

Dr. Becker: Also here I got a really good first impression + I read a lot of good forum entries but I am also read a lot messages about fake diaries and so on. Here I haven't met ex patients yet. A big + as well is that I am from Germany so the clinic is actually just 2 hours from me what makes it more easy for me!

Maybe anyone from you visited also both doctors? Why did you decide for Giotikas or Dr. Becker/Betz?

Would be really thankful for some advice? All the best to you guys

You are in Germany and you have family or friends to help you post operation.
You can go back home after 3-4 week, saving a lot of cost in transportation, accommodation and food.

You can work when back home and easily drive back to Freiburg for XRAYs, Consultation and even PT if requires.
Dr. Becker and his team are so friendly, helpful, patient and caring.
You will never be treated like nuisance for asking stupid questions.

The decision is obvious and no brainer.

[Tallerin2025]

Hey there! Thanks for you answer! So you have been a patient of Dr. Becker or Dr.Betz in the past?

I now that a lot of things are speaking for him but the number one thing is for me safety and success percentage. Since I read a few negative things about Dr Becker lake fake posts I wanted to ask the community. I hope you understand that

[shortisnotfun]

I recommend Dr Birkholtz in South Africa or Dr Assayag in America. Dr Assayag is the doctor who correctly diagnosed me and laid out a plan for my treatment. He is a true gem in the field of LL.

I have experience with Dr Giotikas as I was his patient. He doesn’t understand simple orthopedic principles which even a junior doctor would understand. Look up how in this forum how he messed up someone’s ankle, look up how he didn’t fix a patients issue. I also have chronic pain from how Giotikas inserted a nail into my knee. Every time I bend my knee it fking hurts. Giotikas also claimed to have fixed deformities but it is clear on x ray and in person it wasn’t fixed. You are risking your legs by going to him and you are risking your safety by living in Athens.

Don’t make the same mistake I made by going to Turkey or Greece. Just stay away from those  shizhole countries with low medical standards.

[shortisnotfun]

Don’t do it with Dr Giotikas. He’s not that good of a doctor, and doesn’t understand simple orthopedic principles. Athens is also a really bad city to live on, on par with war zones or third world cities. Dr Giotikas is just a trauma doctor posing as an orthopedic specialist. Stay away if you value your legs.

[wantingtobetaller]

I would choose Dr. Becker. I was considering to do the surgery with him at one point.

[wes07]

Whats his Price+accomadation?

[Bagga]

Hey there! Thanks for you answer! So you have been a patient of Dr. Becker or Dr.Betz in the past?

I now that a lot of things are speaking for him but the number one thing is for me safety and success percentage. Since I read a few negative things about Dr Becker lake fake posts I wanted to ask the community. I hope you understand that

Yes I am.
You can PM if you want to know more.
Alternatively, you can simply drive to Freiburg doing F2F consultation and request to meet the current patients in the hospital or Dorint hotel.
You have all the access as you are in Germany and still dun understand why you need to want to do hearsay in this Forum.
Use your own eyes and wisdom, you are not 18.

[Bagga]

Whats his Price+accomadation?

u know how to do google search right?
There is updated price in Dr.Becker's webpage.

[Tallerin2025]

Honestly on the new Website it just says about pricing: The costs will vary depending on which operation you wish to have and how long you wish to extend your stay in the clinic for. Ideally you would call us or write to us. We would then be able to provide you with an approximate framework of costs.

[quest2341]

giotikas has an impressive ortho background. he works in greece and UK. If someone hates greece so much he can go to UK (but more costs)

dr becker is a cosmetic surgeon. He is very good at cosmetic LL and aesthetics. Most of his patients said good things about him.

   but its not fair to compare them like this. Their specialisation is different.

shortisnotfun went to giotikas after he got complications elsewhere. so its not the same as treating a simple CLL case.

I think both docs are good, but do your own research. Think of the things that could go wrong. Ask the docs if they have experience treating complications.

I can say that dr becker is very caring and has a good system in place for cosmetic LL. maybe the system in athens is not that good...

[Bagga]

Honestly on the new Website it just says about pricing: The costs will vary depending on which operation you wish to have and how long you wish to extend your stay in the clinic for. Ideally you would call us or write to us. We would then be able to provide you with an approximate framework of costs.

The price is quoted is the package - nails & operation, medication, PT and two weeks hospital and Rehab Stay.
After that, it is all depended on yourself how long and where you want to stay longer.

You rent a place outside to pay for rent and food by yourself.
PT, medication, XRAY and doctor consultation are free if you are in Freiburg.

You can write to Becker Betz institute and get the help in house rental.
I am sure they can get someone help you to find a place to stay.

[Tallerin2025]

The price is quoted is the package - nails & operation, medication, PT and two weeks hospital and Rehab Stay.
After that, it is all depended on yourself how long and where you want to stay longer.

You rent a place outside to pay for rent and food by yourself.
PT, medication, XRAY and doctor consultation are free if you are in Freiburg.

You can write to Becker Betz institute and get the help in house rental.
I am sure they can get someone help you to find a place to stay.

Thank you! Do you have a link to the updated price?

[Bagga]

Thank you! Do you have a link to the updated price?

You can google and go into their website to get the updated price.

[tallmen]

I think giotikas has more experience. Becker is pretty young guy who just started doing LL and he has no actual experience dealing with any kinda of ortho issues other than LL. Neither of the options are great tbh but I'd prefer giotikas. Better to go to the US if you can.

[AnotherLLer]

Personally, I would never go for LL with someone who's not a proper orthopedic surgeon specialized in limb deformity corrections. And there are only a handful of them around the globe who does cosmetic LL.

[Tallerin2025]

You can google and go into their website to get the updated price.

I can't find their prices on the website! Thats why I asked you to share the link where you can see the prices!

[shortisnotfun]

I think giotikas has more experience. Becker is pretty young guy who just started doing LL and he has no actual experience dealing with any kinda of ortho issues other than LL. Neither of the options are great tbh but I'd prefer giotikas. Better to go to the US if you can.

Dr Giotikas does NOT have more experience. He is a trauma surgeon posing as an orthopedic specialist. The mistakes he made even a junior doctor studying at the ICLL wouldn’t make. Do not go to Giotikas if you love your legs. Dr Assayag in the USA is the best and he charges around the same as those butchers.

[shortisnotfun]

giotikas has an impressive ortho background. he works in greece and UK. If someone hates greece so much he can go to UK (but more costs)

dr becker is a cosmetic surgeon. He is very good at cosmetic LL and aesthetics. Most of his patients said good things about him.

   but its not fair to compare them like this. Their specialisation is different.

shortisnotfun went to giotikas after he got complications elsewhere. so its not the same as treating a simple CLL case.

I think both docs are good, but do your own research. Think of the things that could go wrong. Ask the docs if they have experience treating complications.

I can say that dr becker is very caring and has a good system in place for cosmetic LL. maybe the system in athens is not that good...

Dude, even a junior doctor studying at ICLL wouldn’t make the same mistakes as Giotikas made. He is a trauma doctor posing as a limb lengthening specialist. Be very aware of these types of doctors. There are only a couple ACTUAL limb lengthening orthopedic specialists and most are in America (Assayag, Paley, Conway, etc). Dr Birkholtz is also a good option but he is in South Africa.

[DonBones]

I spent a total of 2 hours talking to both Dr Becker and Dr Giotikas. Dr Becker also performed a surgery on me.

Whilst Giotikas is a friendly, honest and humble doctor, and I cannot say anything against him per se, if it came down to it I would have absolutely no hesitation going back to Dr Becker. He is switched on, intelligent, committed to the safety of his patients, he is in a good location, his nail bears weight and he still has Prof Betz who may jump in and offer his opinion if need be. Not everyone will agree, but Prof Betz is second to none in this field. Talking to many patients and employees at a Hotel in Weiskirchen (where I stayed for a month after my surgery and where Betz is very well known), I was unable to establish a single case of infection, lost limb, embolism or death. They did have one case of compartment syndrome, which resulted in a court case that was dismissed by the judge, and a few delayed unions. That is it. Their track record contains few to none serious complications, which is very impressive after thousands of cases, and a brag Dr Giotikas frankly cannot make, even though he has way fewer cases under his belt.

I appreciate the fact Prof Betz retired complicates things a bit, but based on my experience with Dr Becker and the fact he has the endorsement of who is quite possibly the most accomplished limb lengthening surgeon to have ever performed the art, Dr Becker has my endorsement, too. He is great, let there be no doubt about it.

And no, no one asked me to write this. I write this after being their patient for three years, and as someone who is quite sceptical by nature.

[Body Builder]

I spent a total of 2 hours talking to both Dr Becker and Dr Giotikas. Dr Becker also performed a surgery on me.

Whilst Giotikas is a friendly, honest and humble doctor, and I cannot say anything against him per se, if it came down to it I would have absolutely no hesitation going back to Dr Becker. He is switched on, intelligent, committed to the safety of his patients, he is in a good location, his nail bears weight and he still has Prof Betz who may jump in and offer his opinion if need be. Not everyone will agree, but Prof Betz is second to none in this field. Talking to many patients and employees at a Hotel in Weiskirchen (where I stayed for a month after my surgery and where Betz is very well known), I was unable to establish a single case of infection, lost limb, embolism or death. They did have one case of compartment syndrome, which resulted in a court case that was dismissed by the judge, and a few delayed unions. That is it. Their track record contains few to none serious complications, which is very impressive after thousands of cases, and a brag Dr Giotikas frankly cannot make, even though he has way fewer cases under his belt.

I appreciate the fact Prof Betz retired complicates things a bit, but based on my experience with Dr Becker and the fact he has the endorsement of who is quite possibly the most accomplished limb lengthening surgeon to have ever performed the art, Dr Becker has my endorsement, too. He is great, let there be no doubt about it.

And no, no one asked me to write this. I write this after being their patient for three years, and as someone who is quite sceptical by nature.

Someone who let his patients to lengthen 12cm without even performing itb release is not second to none in this field but not even a good option for LL.

[Tallerin2025]

I think I am going with Dr. Becker had a consultation he seems very proffessional and friendly and it is just 2 hours from me!

[fanboy]

I think dr.becker is more better for cosmetic limb lengthening bcoz he runs a cosmetic clinic with various services like hair transplantation skin care and also limb lengthening. so for cosmetic needs his center is probably better. He can understand cosmetic needs and psychology better.

if you have length difference or some trauma or deformity then dr.giotikas is better i think.

[Body Builder]

I think dr.becker is more better for cosmetic limb lengthening bcoz he runs a cosmetic clinic with various services like hair transplantation skin care and also limb lengthening. so for cosmetic needs his center is probably better. He can understand cosmetic needs and psychology better.

if you have length difference or some trauma or deformity then dr.giotikas is better i think.

For me, thats the exact reason why Becker is not a good option. Because LL is nor just another cosmetic surgery not has anything in common with hair transplants etc. Thats why it needs a good trauma doctor, not a plastic surgeon. I would never trust cosmetic doctors that do both hair transplants, boob jobs and at the same time LL.

[tallmen]

For me, thats the exact reason why Becker is not a good option. Because LL is nor just another cosmetic surgery not has anything in common with hair transplants etc. Thats why it needs a good trauma doctor, not a plastic surgeon. I would never trust cosmetic doctors that do both hair transplants, boob jobs and at the same time LL.

There are other massive red flags that you don't know about. I don't have the energy to write them down and debate with shills. Giotikas with g-nail is as bad as well.
Both options are bad.

[AnotherLLer]

Care to elab?

[Tallerin2025]

For which doctor would you go for?

[Tallerin2025]

Which doctor would you choose?

[GoingForAverge]

There are other massive red flags that you don't know about. I don't have the energy to write them down and debate with shills. Giotikas with g-nail is as bad as well.
Both options are bad.

Says the person who is considering Paley Institute in poland, just because their Company name🤣 idiots everywhere

[tallmen]

Says the person who is considering Paley Institute in poland, just because their Company name🤣 idiots everywhere

Unlike you, I've already successfully done my femurs and consulted with many doctors. Now, looking to do my tibias.