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[Assyiah]

hello Im 19 years , my height is around 5’9 5’10. im very stable finance wise, so money isnt an issue at all. however, is doing the surgery worth it? I only need 5-6cm to reach my goal, ive always dreamt of being 6’0. but at the same time i wonder if its worth it at all since all the serious complications and a risk of being crippled. Im in a really bad place mentally as well, not really socializing with people and i have nobody to tell this to cuz they will think im crazy.

[Metaphyglv]

Dude, your height is okay, not tall, not short. First of all take accountability of what are you really doing, high risk surgery, probable secuels for life, and a few months minimum of being disabled. I would recommend you to go first to therapy and talk this with him of her, and after that do it if you want

[AllinStryde]

You actually may not be done growing yet...so don't act too quickly on this.  You said you are not in a good mental spot...you need to get into a more stable frame of mind before deciding on something this extreme.  Being your height, I would not risk loss of athleticism, truthfully.  I was like 5'5" doing this, so I had much to benefit from it.  Also, I do think your dream of the "magic 6 foot" demarcation is probably just from E-thots and women's height fetish.  They probably think you're 6 feet already anyhow.

[Assyiah]

well the thing is. I was always bullied my whole life for being 5’5 until i hit a spurt at 17 which grew me to 176cm, which everytime i look in the mirror now i feel hatred for myself because i wanted more. I been doing research on surgery for nearly 2 years now, my thing is i will probably do it when i turn 20 or 21 just to reach 183cm or even 180.

[Temoc]

At 5'9" you're probably a little below average among young Western people. You're not short, short. But height neurosis can definitely be a factor at that height when over half the people you met are taller than you but most people are only 1 or 2 inches taller than you. Surgery could probably fix it.
On the other hand, your life will not change as much as somebody who was 5'5" and got to 5'8", at 5'5" a LOT of people are like half a foot taller than you.

It's a risky surgery, so be warned.

[Beemer m3]

these surgeries cost like 35k either lon femur or lon tibias. prefer tibias if ur doing one segment. if u can gain 5 cm from it would be nice gains for anyone. therapy will take time but its how much u want it. if u didnt want it u wouldnt do the surgery to get taller. i think if ur under 6 ft. it could still be worth it.

[Assyiah]

Indeed. Specially when going on or hanging around, everyone is taller than me which demolishes my ego. Sounds foolish i know but i cant help these thoughts. I worked very hard in my teen years even missed out making friendships and relationships to be at a good point financially, but these things are over shadowed for me due to my height. its like a saying, i would do anything bla bla just to be taller and thats how i feel right now and its taking turns on my mental health. badly.

[uponly]

hello Im 19 years , my height is around 5’9 5’10. im very stable finance wise, so money isnt an issue at all. however, is doing the surgery worth it? I only need 5-6cm to reach my goal, ive always dreamt of being 6’0. but at the same time i wonder if its worth it at all since all the serious complications and a risk of being crippled. Im in a really bad place mentally as well, not really socializing with people and i have nobody to tell this to cuz they will think im crazy.

This is a loaded question, but as someone that had CLL at 5'10'+, I'll do my best to answer

Ultimately, the only person that can determine whether the procedure is worth it is YOU, with guidance/counseling from a clinical psychologist, your primary care doctor, your family, friends, and surgeon. This is the circle I consulted when I went through with the procedure.

My reasons for doing it were not as much height dysmorphia, though that was obviously a factor. My femurs were objectively SHORT, my tibias were super long, and I looked out of proportion. I only wore shorts when absolutely necessary (at the beach or pool). I didn't do it because of girls (this was never a problem, I had a gf during the procedure and still have one). I simply wanted to fix something that was REALLY bothering me.

After psych evals, consulting my Drs, interviewing three surgeons, talking to my friends and family - everyone encouraged me to to this. I did, and it was easily the best decision of my life. But this was the best decision of my life for me and my particular set of circumstances.

What do you get, after the pain, all the work you put in, the time you're not ambulatory, etc.? Height dysmorphia simply vanishes. Imagine not even thinking about it. My clothes fit so much better. I'm beyond happy. My mood is different - I'm literally wearing a smile every day.

There are some that say that at 5'8"+ you should be happy, etc. Some can be, some cannot. I can tell you this from personal experience: the world views tall people SO MUCH DIFFERENTLY. I was never "short", just barely above average. Now I'm legitimately tall. While I never had a problem with approaching women before, my confidence is now through the roof in public, and girls literally approach me now. Obviously you have to be your best self to be consistently successful in any type of social relationship. But looks matter and if you're a guy, height matters big time.

The positive social payoff is undeniable - sadly, that's the way the world works. Height is for guys what weight is for girls - the two biggest dysmorphias for each sex.

Be introspective, talk the decision through with medical professionals and people you trust, and decide whether this is something you want to do. It's painful, long, taxing, mentally and physically. It's a lot of work with a long recovery, even under the best of circumstances. Cyborg4Life says 2 years on average to recover fully and I think that's true. If you think you can handle all that and will be happier with yourself as a result, do it.

[mirneeelnumber1ooye]

This is a loaded question, but as someone that had CLL at 5'10'+, I'll do my best to answer

Ultimately, the only person that can determine whether the procedure is worth it is YOU, with guidance/counseling from a clinical psychologist, your primary care doctor, your family, friends, and surgeon. This is the circle I consulted when I went through with the procedure.

My reasons for doing it were not as much height dysmorphia, though that was obviously a factor. My femurs were objectively SHORT, my tibias were super long, and I looked out of proportion. I only wore shorts when absolutely necessary (at the beach or pool). I didn't do it because of girls (this was never a problem, I had a gf during the procedure and still have one). I simply wanted to fix something that was REALLY bothering me.

After psych evals, consulting my Drs, interviewing three surgeons, talking to my friends and family - everyone encouraged me to to this. I did, and it was easily the best decision of my life. But this was the best decision of my life for me and my particular set of circumstances.

What do you get, after the pain, all the work you put in, the time you're not ambulatory, etc.? Height dysmorphia simply vanishes. Imagine not even thinking about it. My clothes fit so much better. I'm beyond happy. My mood is different - I'm literally wearing a smile every day.

There are some that say that at 5'8"+ you should be happy, etc. Some can be, some cannot. I can tell you this from personal experience: the world views tall people SO MUCH DIFFERENTLY. I was never "short", just barely above average. Now I'm legitimately tall. While I never had a problem with approaching women before, my confidence is now through the roof in public, and girls literally approach me now. Obviously you have to be your best self to be consistently successful in any type of social relationship. But looks matter and if you're a guy, height matters big time.

The positive social payoff is undeniable - sadly, that's the way the world works. Height is for guys what weight is for girls - the two biggest dysmorphias for each sex.

Be introspective, talk the decision through with medical professionals and people you trust, and decide whether this is something you want to do. It's painful, long, taxing, mentally and physically. It's a lot of work with a long recovery, even under the best of circumstances. Cyborg4Life says 2 years on average to recover fully and I think that's true. If you think you can handle all that and will be happier with yourself as a result, do it.

lol this soy phaggot again

ya done wobbling like a penguin yet there buddy boyo ?

we still remember how you were sweating and stinking up the entrance to the plane with your foul 1 week unshowered stench in your wheelchair while 200 other passengers passed by you giving you pitty looks

say hi to your fat girlfriend

kek

[Assyiah]

lol this soy phaggot again

ya done wobbling like a penguin yet there buddy boyo ?

we still remember how you were sweating and stinking up the entrance to the plane with your foul 1 week unshowered stench in your wheelchair while 200 other passengers passed by you giving you pitty looks

say hi to your fat girlfriend

kek

honestly i would go through all that to be taller tbh, nothing beats the feeling of seeing someone taller than you. only thing that scares me is the complications, my mobility and flexibility isnt all that. ill still do it in a year or two tho. I KNOW DEEP DOWN I WASNT SUPPOSED TO BE 5’9 when my dad is 6’3, waking up to say goodmorning to your 6’2 younger brother has to be the most gruesome and brutal experience ive ever lived through. inheriting the   genetics from my moms side got me wondering if i just should end it and give all the money ive made but its whatever , ascension or death.

[Body Builder]

honestly i would go through all that to be taller tbh, nothing beats the feeling of seeing someone taller than you. only thing that scares me is the complications, my mobility and flexibility isnt all that. ill still do it in a year or two tho. I KNOW DEEP DOWN I WASNT SUPPOSED TO BE 5’9 when my dad is 6’3, waking up to say goodmorning to your 6’2 younger brother has to be the most gruesome and brutal experience ive ever lived through. inheriting the   genetics from my moms side got me wondering if i just should end it and give all the money ive made but its whatever , ascension or death.

You seem mentally unstable unfortunately and this is the biggest red flad of doing LL, not your height which is already normal.
Wait some years, go to a psychologist and then you will decide better.

[beastialvitality]

I'm also 5'9 and planning on doing LL, however you're definitely not in the right mental state for it. You need to take your mind off this for a year or so, seek therapy and possibly medication. During that time stay healthy and stretch then at the end if you still feel strongly go for it.

[Ted68]

hello Im 19 years , my height is around 5’9 5’10. im very stable finance wise, so money isnt an issue at all. however, is doing the surgery worth it? I only need 5-6cm to reach my goal, ive always dreamt of being 6’0. but at the same time i wonder if its worth it at all since all the serious complications and a risk of being crippled. Im in a really bad place mentally as well, not really socializing with people and i have nobody to tell this to cuz they will think im crazy.

Hi, man.
First of all you are too young for this surgery !
I am not talking anything about your mental state now, because I am sure few years later you'll be more mature and you 'll be able to control yourself.
You are tall enough so no need to be depressed. Most of the guys here are much shorter than you.
But, of course, 5.9 is not funny for western countries.
Just wait until the age of 25 and then you can do it. Meanwhile go to school and get a diploma, don't waste your time thinking you are short !

[Assyiah]

Hi, man.
First of all you are too young for this surgery !
I am not talking anything about your mental state now, because I am sure few years later you'll be more mature and you 'll be able to control yourself.
You are tall enough so no need to be depressed. Most of the guys here are much shorter than you.
But, of course, 5.9 is not funny for western countries.
Just wait until the age of 25 and then you can do it. Meanwhile go to school and get a diploma, don't waste your time thinking you are short !

Yes im trying to be at a better place mentally for now, but its hard when everything you want is based on getting taller, i dont want to be a cripple either but i dont wanna live life as a short dude , yeah i get it theres many that r shorter than me but i feel like i missed out on something i coulda had if i just had my life together during my puberty, everyone around me is taller than 5’9 i rarely see any short dudes , family gatherings. I dont go to those anymore since everyone looks at me differently since im not that tall which is really taking a turn on me. Did i waste my teen and puberty years making money just to be like this? It doesnt make sense, just makes me question alot

[jbfjbj4]

Don't listen to all the soyboys saying muh therapy. That's just a buzzword redditors love to use. Most of them act as though it can cure cancer.

Your problem is a fully legitimate one, and so isn't going to be solved by sitting next to some women with some BS psychology degree and hearing her say height doesn't matter before she goes off to fk her 6ft 2 boyfriend. 5ft 9 is short. It's not turbo manlet, but yes, it's a flaw, and your life would be much better at 6ft. The only thing that matters is are you prepared to sacrifice the time and the money to get these life improvements.

Your lack of socialisation is partially caused by the fact you're short, as the world gives a halo effect to taller people. Yes, some soyboy is going to point out they know a 5ft 2 guy with friends who goes out, but that's just a  ty of an argument as me pointing to one example of a tall guy with the same social life and saying that proves height is what's important. Your height matters, and your social situation would improve a bit if you're taller, especially with women.

If you decide to do it, do it quickly. Getting it done at 19 means you'll have all your 20s to enjoy your new height, getting it done at 25, well you just wasted 5 of your prime years being short - and I say that as a guy who only had the money to get this done at 32 (it's still well worth it, but of course it would have been better at 20). Don't fag around for years doing 'research' or telling yourself you need muh stable job or muh better finances first - it's better to be broke and tall than loaded and short anyday of the week. And it's better to be young and tall than old and tall. Get it done fast if you want to do it.

[markr09]

Yes im trying to be at a better place mentally for now, but its hard when everything you want is based on getting taller, i dont want to be a cripple either but i dont wanna live life as a short dude , yeah i get it theres many that r shorter than me but i feel like i missed out on something i coulda had if i just had my life together during my puberty, everyone around me is taller than 5’9 i rarely see any short dudes , family gatherings. I dont go to those anymore since everyone looks at me differently since im not that tall which is really taking a turn on me. Did i waste my teen and puberty years making money just to be like this? It doesnt make sense, just makes me question alot

Ignore the troll replies. In anycase, you're not short. You're 19, being 5'9 next to your brother/father isn't the worst thing that'll happen to you, you still have like atleast 50 more years of whatever worst thing that'll happen to you. This perception has been skewed heavily only in the past decade or so highly due to social media. The average male height in US is still largely the same for a quite a few decades now, and while it's true that some part of the younger generation is taller, for the most part it's still largely the same. That pov of yours also most likely exaggerated that because of your younger brother and father. Now, this decision is yours to make entirely, but think about it for a while if you really want to go through with it, you most likely don't have the money for it now anyways, so you have some time to think it through.

It's just an amazing thing to think about ngl about how much, mainly women and redpills/incels rejection from women has shifted the perception and made a fine line that 6' is considered tall and anything below that even 5'10~5'11 is short. No one likes being short, that's true, but that's a real blow to think about especially to actual short people.

[onedaytall]

waking up to say goodmorning to your 6’2 younger brother has to be the most gruesome and brutal experience ive ever lived through.

As much as this cringes me and frustrates to read something like this, I've also learned that mental suffering is not "less real" even if it comes in an absurd form. To me what you wrote just makes me want to say that you haven't really lived life then if THAT is your worst experience in life. But that's not true, you have lived through your 19 years, you have experienced bullying and low self esteem and whatever else is the cause of this. Our suffering is anyway mind-created, so there is not really more or less real suffering in that sense. But you definitely have mental issues that need work before you take upon anything like this. Plus you might still grow naturally. Give it a couple of years, work on yourself with dedication, see where you are then.

Height lengthening might be good for you down the line, but right now you have a completely distorted tunnel vision. Height isn't such a big deal as the internet makes it to be. I'm 5'8, living in a "tall country", and I'm generally found very attractive and no problems. I read about the problems people my height are experiencing here and there, I just never experienced them. I wish I was taller. Surely I would be even more attractive and authoritative in a physical sense. Height matters, but not THAT much. I lived up to 30 years old without even realising that height matters. And again my country has quite high average height.

Your underlying mental state, low self-esteem, unhappiness and whatever bullying etc you have experienced in your life that have left a mark, they are now manifesting as a tunnel vision. All this unhappiness in you gets channelled towards this one idea, one goal, if you only were taller it would all be different. Trust me, your mind will grab another thing once height is off the table unless you do the self-work, therapy so on. For some people it is hairloss, for some it is lack of a manly beard (no joke). That is how the mind works, and the condition of your mind is very obssessive now. Your mind isn't automatically going to change it's foundations once you become taller. You will still find yourself in the therapy sessions.

Just today I watched a youtube vid of a plastic surgeon who said that he doesn't recommend people coming for operations if they are in an unstable, obsessed mental and emotional space. Work it out first, then come to the operation, because those people are statistically the ones who end up being happier with the changes.

Edit: Also maybe you will be incredibly happy with leg lengthening results eventually if all goes well with it all. Just really consider giving it some time and invest working on your inner issues first. That's an investment no-one will ever regret making. And honestly you're only 19. You seem quite aware for your age, and someone who wakes up to their inner work so young has incredible opportunity in their hands to make the best of their life.

[Assyiah]

As much as this cringes me and frustrates to read something like this, I've also learned that mental suffering is not "less real" even if it comes in an absurd form. To me what you wrote just makes me want to say that you haven't really lived life then if THAT is your worst experience in life. But that's not true, you have lived through your 19 years, you have experienced bullying and low self esteem and whatever else is the cause of this. Our suffering is anyway mind-created, so there is not really more or less real suffering in that sense. But you definitely have mental issues that need work before you take upon anything like this. Plus you might still grow naturally. Give it a couple of years, work on yourself with dedication, see where you are then.

Height lengthening might be good for you down the line, but right now you have a completely distorted tunnel vision. Height isn't such a big deal as the internet makes it to be. I'm 5'8, living in a "tall country", and I'm generally found very attractive and no problems. I read about the problems people my height are experiencing here and there, I just never experienced them. I wish I was taller. Surely I would be even more attractive and authoritative in a physical sense. Height matters, but not THAT much. I lived up to 30 years old without even realising that height matters. And again my country has quite high average height.

Your underlying mental state, low self-esteem, unhappiness and whatever bullying etc you have experienced in your life that have left a mark, they are now manifesting as a tunnel vision. All this unhappiness in you gets channelled towards this one idea, one goal, if you only were taller it would all be different. Trust me, your mind will grab another thing once height is off the table unless you do the self-work, therapy so on. For some people it is hairloss, for some it is lack of a manly beard (no joke). That is how the mind works, and the condition of your mind is very obssessive now. Your mind isn't automatically going to change it's foundations once you become taller. You will still find yourself in the therapy sessions.

Just today I watched a youtube vid of a plastic surgeon who said that he doesn't recommend people coming for operations if they are in an unstable, obsessed mental and emotional space. Work it out first, then come to the operation, because those people are statistically the ones who end up being happier with the changes.

Edit: Also maybe you will be incredibly happy with leg lengthening results eventually if all goes well with it all. Just really consider giving it some time and invest working on your inner issues first. That's an investment no-one will ever regret making. And honestly you're only 19. You seem quite aware for your age, and someone who wakes up to their inner work so young has incredible opportunity in their hands to make the best of their life.

Your comment is 100% spot on , im just living everyday struggling with my height i cant even live my life as a normal human being, it bothers me so much which is all mental i know , my dad and brothers look up to me since i was the one that took them out of poverty and i got both of my brothers into college, but i still feel less, you know? i wake up everyday with the same thought wishing i was taller even if it was 2inches , my girlfriend of 2 years cheated on me with a 6’2 dude as well and that got to my head so hard that i think about it all day long for the past 3months , i put up a plan to fix everything else in my life during this year and go for the surgery next year if everything goes well.

[jbfjbj4]

As much as this cringes me and frustrates to read something like this, I've also learned that mental suffering is not "less real" even if it comes in an absurd form. To me what you wrote just makes me want to say that you haven't really lived life then if THAT is your worst experience in life. But that's not true, you have lived through your 19 years, you have experienced bullying and low self esteem and whatever else is the cause of this. Our suffering is anyway mind-created, so there is not really more or less real suffering in that sense. But you definitely have mental issues that need work before you take upon anything like this. Plus you might still grow naturally. Give it a couple of years, work on yourself with dedication, see where you are then.

Height lengthening might be good for you down the line, but right now you have a completely distorted tunnel vision. Height isn't such a big deal as the internet makes it to be. I'm 5'8, living in a "tall country", and I'm generally found very attractive and no problems. I read about the problems people my height are experiencing here and there, I just never experienced them. I wish I was taller. Surely I would be even more attractive and authoritative in a physical sense. Height matters, but not THAT much. I lived up to 30 years old without even realising that height matters. And again my country has quite high average height.

Your underlying mental state, low self-esteem, unhappiness and whatever bullying etc you have experienced in your life that have left a mark, they are now manifesting as a tunnel vision. All this unhappiness in you gets channelled towards this one idea, one goal, if you only were taller it would all be different. Trust me, your mind will grab another thing once height is off the table unless you do the self-work, therapy so on. For some people it is hairloss, for some it is lack of a manly beard (no joke). That is how the mind works, and the condition of your mind is very obssessive now. Your mind isn't automatically going to change it's foundations once you become taller. You will still find yourself in the therapy sessions.

Just today I watched a youtube vid of a plastic surgeon who said that he doesn't recommend people coming for operations if they are in an unstable, obsessed mental and emotional space. Work it out first, then come to the operation, because those people are statistically the ones who end up being happier with the changes.

Edit: Also maybe you will be incredibly happy with leg lengthening results eventually if all goes well with it all. Just really consider giving it some time and invest working on your inner issues first. That's an investment no-one will ever regret making. And honestly you're only 19. You seem quite aware for your age, and someone who wakes up to their inner work so young has incredible opportunity in their hands to make the best of their life.

Cringe af

1) You do experience problems with your height, whatever life you have now you'd also have if you were taller, except it'd be better. If you get laid now, you'd get laid more if you were taller. If you have respect at work now, you'd have more if you were taller. If people like you now, they'd like you more if you were taller. You're being dragged down by a huge weight you can't even see as you don't have the view of your parallel life where you were 6ft 2.

2) Self improvement is just mental masturbation. OP's problems are real, and you can't wish yourself taller.

[onedaytall]

Cringe af

1) You do experience problems with your height, whatever life you have now you'd also have if you were taller, except it'd be better. If you get laid now, you'd get laid more if you were taller. If you have respect at work now, you'd have more if you were taller. If people like you now, they'd like you more if you were taller. You're being dragged down by a huge weight you can't even see as you don't have the view of your parallel life where you were 6ft 2.

2) Self improvement is just mental masturbation. OP's problems are real, and you can't wish yourself taller.

Dude you remind me of some videos I've seen about suicide forums on internet. People ridicule anyone there who suggest maybe therapy would be a good idea. Anyone who suggests such a thing just "doesn't get it". Only thing that is mental masturbation here is the hopeless wallowing in misery because you're fking average height. Unbelievable.

"OP's problems are real, and you can't wish yourself taller." If someone's worst experience is waking up every morning and saying "hi" to little brother who is taller than him, it is 100% a problem in his head. This should be obvious because it is completely out of any reasonable proportion. People like you are not helping either.

"whatever life you have now you'd also have if you were taller, except it'd be better" If you re-read my "cringy" post you'd see I said the same. I wish I was taller. But I'm not going to pretend that it's a bigger deal than it is. Some people are tall, some aren't. Some people are more rich, better looking, better hair, more charming, happier etc. Own the life you live. It's not mental masturbation when it's the only damn life you're going to live. Idiots who are DETERMINED to choose their miserable outlook on life while ridiculing others who don't, they deserve the perpetual unhappiness they're in. Own your life, do your work, stop bitching.

Yes height matters, but OP is freakin average height. It's definitely not the big deal he is making out of it, except in his head. Facts. He probably will get leg lengthening down the line, but I hope he works on his mental issues first.

[onedaytall]

Your comment is 100% spot on , im just living everyday struggling with my height i cant even live my life as a normal human being, it bothers me so much which is all mental i know , my dad and brothers look up to me since i was the one that took them out of poverty and i got both of my brothers into college, but i still feel less, you know? i wake up everyday with the same thought wishing i was taller even if it was 2inches , my girlfriend of 2 years cheated on me with a 6’2 dude as well and that got to my head so hard that i think about it all day long for the past 3months , i put up a plan to fix everything else in my life during this year and go for the surgery next year if everything goes well.

Dude great to hear you're taking the mental aspect seriously. It will get better. And if and when you decide to get the leg lengthening down the line, you'll definitely be happy you have worked on yourself before. I even remember some older leg lengthening diary on this forum where the dude noticed that there are two types of people in the leg lengthening facility he was in. Those who were already happy and successful in their lives and they seemed to be the ones who went on with improved lives after recovering from the surgery. They're the ones who actually enjoyed benefits of the surgery. Then there is the other group who is perpetually unhappy in their lives, always something to fix. They do the surgery and they don't get any more attention from women, no more tinder matches, no nothing. This is consistent data from both people's own experiences and diaries and from research.

Dude what you are describing makes me think you are a really stand up guy. At young age you have done good things for your family, you have worked hard, achieved something and you are self-aware. Your unhappiness with yourself, the feeling of not being enough etc is just one more thing on your path you wil lovercome. You will get far in life and you deserve happiness. I'm really glad you are taking the mental aspect seriously now, because there is nothing in that regard that can hold you back in the long run. You've already shown you are a guy who faces issues and challenges head on. Keep up the good work, and then whether you'll be the 6' tall guy in the future or not (which you might be of course), you'll be living your best life in either scenario.

Your long term girlfriend cheating on you with a tall guy, that's gonna get into your head, I get that. It does remind me of a street interview video, one of those asking strangers "Does height matter?". And a 5'7 guy there was saying it doesn't matter to him at all. He had a girlfiend of a NBA player cheat on the dude with him. So the reverse can happen too. Imagine how the NBA player might have felt when his girlfriend chose a below average height person to cheat with lol.

[Assyiah]

Dude great to hear you're taking the mental aspect seriously. It will get better. And if and when you decide to get the leg lengthening down the line, you'll definitely be happy you have worked on yourself before. I even remember some older leg lengthening diary on this forum where the dude noticed that there are two types of people in the leg lengthening facility he was in. Those who were already happy and successful in their lives and they seemed to be the ones who went on with improved lives after recovering from the surgery. They're the ones who actually enjoyed benefits of the surgery. Then there is the other group who is perpetually unhappy in their lives, always something to fix. They do the surgery and they don't get any more attention from women, no more tinder matches, no nothing. This is consistent data from both people's own experiences and diaries and from research.

Dude what you are describing makes me think you are a really stand up guy. At young age you have done good things for your family, you have worked hard, achieved something and you are self-aware. Your unhappiness with yourself, the feeling of not being enough etc is just one more thing on your path you wil lovercome. You will get far in life and you deserve happiness. I'm really glad you are taking the mental aspect seriously now, because there is nothing in that regard that can hold you back in the long run. You've already shown you are a guy who faces issues and challenges head on. Keep up the good work, and then whether you'll be the 6' tall guy in the future or not (which you might be of course), you'll be living your best life in either scenario.

Your long term girlfriend cheating on you with a tall guy, that's gonna get into your head, I get that. It does remind me of a street interview video, one of those asking strangers "Does height matter?". And a 5'7 guy there was saying it doesn't matter to him at all. He had a girlfiend of a NBA player cheat on the dude with him. So the reverse can happen too. Imagine how the NBA player might have felt when his girlfriend chose a below average height person to cheat with lol.

your comment really helped and the comment above is right as well to some degree, alot of things i could have done have been weighed out by my height which i agree is true but i have been letting my height mess with my head for so long , only thing that was holding me back is my girlfriend but shes gone now , i went on a drug binge after i found out and lost myself. wasted so much opportunities financially. i changed alot of peoples lives that they appreciate me for , all my 20 employees that respect me alot which is crazy that i just turned 19 but i still cant love myself despite how far i came with everything finance wise, and the starting point is my height. I tried therapy and all it did was calm me down temporarily, the most thing that bothers me is that im incapable of talking about this to my social circle ill just lost respect and be looked down on as the insecure nerd. I tried talking to my dad about it but he just doesnt get it. it just clams me a bit that theres people that a-knowledge my issue and are giving tips to fix it wether its mentally or going through the surgery

[onedaytall]

your comment really helped and the comment above is right as well to some degree, alot of things i could have done have been weighed out by my height which i agree is true but i have been letting my height mess with my head for so long , only thing that was holding me back is my girlfriend but shes gone now , i went on a drug binge after i found out and lost myself. wasted so much opportunities financially. i changed alot of peoples lives that they appreciate me for , all my 20 employees that respect me alot which is crazy that i just turned 19 but i still cant love myself despite how far i came with everything finance wise, and the starting point is my height. I tried therapy and all it did was calm me down temporarily, the most thing that bothers me is that im incapable of talking about this to my social circle ill just lost respect and be looked down on as the insecure nerd. I tried talking to my dad about it but he just doesnt get it. it just clams me a bit that theres people that a-knowledge my issue and are giving tips to fix it wether its mentally or going through the surgery

Well with something like this in my opinion it's best not to expect most people in the regular social circles to understand. Unfortunately some people do take advantage of other peoples vulnerabilities and insecurities, even if it is "just" looking down on them for it. Just one or few close friends are what's needed. I unfortunately didn't even have that much with my issues. I eventually had a therapist who became more like a mentor and close friend, he was at many points the only one I could talk to and it was enough to help me then. Therapists can vary as much as your friends. Some get it, some don't. In the end it all comes down to ourselves.

But while I don't advice talking about this to just everyone out there, it's also not necessary to be afraid of losing people's respect. Sometimes it's even good to lose your "respectability" in the eyes of other people just to realise that it never mattered, so that we don't have to be afraid of losing anything. In the end someone who isn't affected by whether people respect you or not, commands more respect. It comes from self-respect. Someone who deeply cares if people respect them or not, in the sense that if people don't respect them they will feel less about themselves... Then your self-esteem and self-respect are attached to other people's view about you instead of being rooted within.

Anyway, I think it's good you have a goal to work on yourself and then possibly follow up with the surgery. Keep us posted

[Siegfried]

LL at 5.9ft is the dumbest thing ever. Cant say it enough. 5.9ft is not short by any measure.

[Assyiah]

LL at 5.9ft is the dumbest thing ever. Cant say it enough. 5.9ft is not short by any measure.

I just read your diary and it motivated me even more , im going with the same surgeon as well. I mean listen. I have been surrounded my whole life with tall people , everyone in my family is 6’2. i have planned alot for the future and to increase my height is one of them. Im glad your journey was successful

[jbfjbj4]

Dude you remind me of some videos I've seen about suicide forums on internet. People ridicule anyone there who suggest maybe therapy would be a good idea. Anyone who suggests such a thing just "doesn't get it". Only thing that is mental masturbation here is the hopeless wallowing in misery because you're fking average height. Unbelievable.

"OP's problems are real, and you can't wish yourself taller." If someone's worst experience is waking up every morning and saying "hi" to little brother who is taller than him, it is 100% a problem in his head. This should be obvious because it is completely out of any reasonable proportion. People like you are not helping either.

"whatever life you have now you'd also have if you were taller, except it'd be better" If you re-read my "cringy" post you'd see I said the same. I wish I was taller. But I'm not going to pretend that it's a bigger deal than it is. Some people are tall, some aren't. Some people are more rich, better looking, better hair, more charming, happier etc. Own the life you live. It's not mental masturbation when it's the only damn life you're going to live. Idiots who are DETERMINED to choose their miserable outlook on life while ridiculing others who don't, they deserve the perpetual unhappiness they're in. Own your life, do your work, stop bitching.

Yes height matters, but OP is freakin average height. It's definitely not the big deal he is making out of it, except in his head. Facts. He probably will get leg lengthening down the line, but I hope he works on his mental issues first.

The reason you therapy soyboys get ridiculed is because you're ridiculous. Most of you act like it's so great it can cure cancer. No, you don't have to 'own your life' when there's a way to change it.

Brb going to tell someone who is homeless than they just need to own their life and develop a more positive outlook, and some people have homes and some people don't and there's no point wallowing in misery over it, and definitely don't try and get a house of their own before they've worked on their mental issues surrounding housing first.

Your long term girlfriend cheating on you with a tall guy, that's gonna get into your head, I get that. It does remind me of a street interview video, one of those asking strangers "Does height matter?". And a 5'7 guy there was saying it doesn't matter to him at all. He had a girlfiend of a NBA player cheat on the dude with him. So the reverse can happen too. Imagine how the NBA player might have felt when his girlfriend chose a below average height person to cheat with lol.

Why is it none of you soys understand the concept of statistics and probability? One example of one thing proves the square root of fk all. Just like when you bald tossers say 'Dwayne Johnson looks fine bald, so being bald isn't that bad!'.

[Assyiah]

The reason you therapy soyboys get ridiculed is because you're ridiculous. Most of you act like it's so great it can cure cancer. No, you don't have to 'own your life' when there's a way to change it.

Brb going to tell someone who is homeless than they just need to own their life and develop a more positive outlook, and some people have homes and some people don't and there's no point wallowing in misery over it, and definitely don't try and get a house of their own before they've worked on their mental issues surrounding housing first.
 

Why is it none of you soys understand the concept of statistics and probability? One example of one thing proves the square root of fk all. Just like when you bald tossers say 'Dwayne Johnson looks fine bald, so being bald isn't that bad!'.

I agree with you to some point, some things r worse with comparison, i mean yeah my mental health is dog  but my height is a problem as well , if i was taller i wouldnt be thinking about none of this nonsense. i started to lose hair as well which no therapy or talking could cure my fear of going bald i would literally jump off a cliff. its either a win all or lose everything situation for me

[onedaytall]

The reason you therapy soyboys get ridiculed is because you're ridiculous. Most of you act like it's so great it can cure cancer. No, you don't have to 'own your life' when there's a way to change it.

Brb going to tell someone who is homeless than they just need to own their life and develop a more positive outlook, and some people have homes and some people don't and there's no point wallowing in misery over it, and definitely don't try and get a house of their own before they've worked on their mental issues surrounding housing first.
 

Why is it none of you soys understand the concept of statistics and probability? One example of one thing proves the square root of fk all. Just like when you bald tossers say 'Dwayne Johnson looks fine bald, so being bald isn't that bad!'.

Sounds horrible to be such a willing victim of circumstances, which is the vibe I get from you. And yet you talk about "doing something about it". You completely misunderstood what I'm saying, probably on purpose. You skipped the part where I encourage the surgery for those who want it. I encourage to do everything about everything in your life. Therapy is also that. Full ownership instead of this bitching and blameshifting like you. If you claim full ownership and responsibility of anything, will you not do everything you can about it? So taking full ownership of ones life, mental state, emotional state, everything, that is how I approach my life and I always encourage it to other because it works. It works if you do the work instead of rolling the ball to whatever circumstance or thing you want to blame your misery and failure on.

You simply have some reason to be bitter with those who are not as devastated by life as you are. You just cannot fathom someone not being a victim like you. They must be soyboys and therapy losers. Lol, good luck.

[onedaytall]

I agree with you to some point, some things r worse with comparison, i mean yeah my mental health is dog  but my height is a problem as well , if i was taller i wouldnt be thinking about none of this nonsense. i started to lose hair as well which no therapy or talking could cure my fear of going bald i would literally jump off a cliff. its either a win all or lose everything situation for me

Since you mentioned hairloss, I have good news for you. There are so many things you can do to keep your hair, and then there is hair transplants too. Combination of medical therapy and surgery can secure a full head of hair for a very long time. I started losing my hair around 22 years for no other reason than genetics, but I have had a full head of hair for 12 years after that and no signs of recession. There are good channels on youtube about this stuff, message me if you want links.

[LG1816]

Why are the incel accounts not just banned? Because the whole 'Don't engage with them' thing clearly isn't working out.

[Assyiah]

Why are the incel accounts not just banned? Because the whole 'Don't engage with them' thing clearly isn't working out.

hows that inceldom? not everything is about sleeping with women. yet i still sleep with women on the regular, not everything is about height yeah forsure theres multiple things to consider when all you think about is women , this is just an honest post about my struggle , not everyone has to be extremely short to struggle with height dysmorphia. all the comments so far are positive and helped me alot. reality is bitter and delusion gets you no where in life