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[Staystrong]

Dude, you have a thousand posts in this forum and you haven't read the experiences of all the people who have gone for 11-12cm with Betz 🗿🗿. You'd be surprised how many people even outside of this forum try that.

I've see just 1 real diary with 12cm length!
Read my first message properly, I was asking those who knows about 10cm tibia and 12cm femur - that's what Becker's assistant responded me in email.
Another guy with the nickname Max said he did 7.5cm on tibia. He created Instagram with videos that look more like advertisement, I messaged him there, no response but he did created subject here on the forum.
According to all this - I have no trust to Becker and people who basically advertise hair-plastic surgeon with UNSAFE lengthening limits.
For me Becker now is something like WannabeTaller but on another level, advertising and money making!
And most importantly dude, this subject was created for new possible patients who can read and not make mistakes that other people did.

[Bleda]

12cm is pretty uncommon, I think, even back in the day when longer lengthenings were more common.

With regard to Betz etc 'letting' people lengthen those amounts, I think there are a couple of factors.

1) 5-8cm often isn't a number a lot of people who are willing to do this surgery will settle for, but quite often 10cm is. So rather than stopping at some arbitrary number like 7 or 8 and then having to do another (super invasive) surgery to be satisfied, it's better to just go for those extra couple of cm and just recover and move on with your life. You can debate the merits of this but trust me, your world looks different when you've spent a couple of months in pain and discomfort lengthening your legs.

2) The Betz nail goes to 12cm and is manually clicked rather than using the machine to lengthen the nail, so he can't actually stop you doing more if you want to anyway. If I recall Apo's diary correctly, he wasn't too thrilled about him doing 11cm on tibs.

I'm also not sure where this whole 8cm max has come from, maybe because precise has (or had) an 8cm max, but I don't know if there is a hard and fast rule that at 8cm you'll be ok but at 8.1 you're crippled for life. In the cohort I went through with, there were a couple of guys that went to 10cm and they're fine now and that was 7 years ago. I remember Tall saying he did that second round of lengthening to stop arthritis but I think it was just him justifying another round of lengthening. More likely his leg proportions looked terrible and he wanted to even them out a bit, which is also a pretty valid reason if you ask me.

I personally don't think it's a good idea to do 12cm lengthening on femur even if you're one of those people that can tolerate it, unless you're going to do big numbers on tibs as well, and I wouldn't recommend that as most people just take too long to heal and it's no fun not being able to walk properly for months or years. Plus then you're arms will probably look weird unless you're starting from a freakishly long wingspan. All just my opinion though, but I'm one of those people that thinks proportions at least matter a little. I did 7.5cm on femurs and just that amount annoys me proportion wise. The only reason I'd do tibs is to sort that out and not because I want more height.

[TheDream]

I don’t know how Betz and Becker can be considered as ethical doctors after this

[Kintaeryos]

I don’t know how Betz and Becker can be considered as ethical doctors after this

I'd never lengthen that much but isn't walking like this considered normal only 55 days after the lengthening?

[Hldrive]

I don’t know how Betz and Becker can be considered as ethical doctors after this

He privated most of his videos, I wonder how he is doing.

[Kintaeryos]

He privated most of his videos, I wonder how he is doing.

weird, he must have done it as a result of this thread, I could still see it yesterday.

[YOUNGandSTRONG]

12cm is pretty uncommon, I think, even back in the day when longer lengthenings were more common.

With regard to Betz etc 'letting' people lengthen those amounts, I think there are a couple of factors.

1) 5-8cm often isn't a number a lot of people who are willing to do this surgery will settle for, but quite often 10cm is. So rather than stopping at some arbitrary number like 7 or 8 and then having to do another (super invasive) surgery to be satisfied, it's better to just go for those extra couple of cm and just recover and move on with your life. You can debate the merits of this but trust me, your world looks different when you've spent a couple of months in pain and discomfort lengthening your legs.

2) The Betz nail goes to 12cm and is manually clicked rather than using the machine to lengthen the nail, so he can't actually stop you doing more if you want to anyway. If I recall Apo's diary correctly, he wasn't too thrilled about him doing 11cm on tibs.

I'm also not sure where this whole 8cm max has come from, maybe because precise has (or had) an 8cm max, but I don't know if there is a hard and fast rule that at 8cm you'll be ok but at 8.1 you're crippled for life. In the cohort I went through with, there were a couple of guys that went to 10cm and they're fine now and that was 7 years ago. I remember Tall saying he did that second round of lengthening to stop arthritis but I think it was just him justifying another round of lengthening. More likely his leg proportions looked terrible and he wanted to even them out a bit, which is also a pretty valid reason if you ask me.

I personally don't think it's a good idea to do 12cm lengthening on femur even if you're one of those people that can tolerate it, unless you're going to do big numbers on tibs as well, and I wouldn't recommend that as most people just take too long to heal and it's no fun not being able to walk properly for months or years. Plus then you're arms will probably look weird unless you're starting from a freakishly long wingspan. All just my opinion though, but I'm one of those people that thinks proportions at least matter a little. I did 7.5cm on femurs and just that amount annoys me proportion wise. The only reason I'd do tibs is to sort that out and not because I want more height.

MAN, I had completely forgotten that Apo made 11cm on his tibias, that is truly crazy because of how delicate the tendons and fibula are. I think Apo currently leads a normal life, he is even seen in an IG video running in some kind of amateur marathon lol. As for Tall... nothing else has been known to date, I wish someone had discovered his identity and followed up on him.

[YOUNGandSTRONG]

weird, he must have done it as a result of this thread, I could still see it yesterday.

What was that video exactly??? Someone can explain

[Kintaeryos]

What was that video exactly??? Someone can explain

Just a short clip of the uploader penguin-walking down a corridor with no crutches or other support titled "55 days after lengthening". You know the typical post-op LL walk where you can't properly bend your knees, nothing crazy. Though according to TheDream it's not normal to walk like that 55 days after lengthening. I don't know enough about LL to comment on whether that's accurate or not.

[TheDream]

Just a short clip of the uploader penguin-walking down a corridor with no crutches or other support titled "55 days after lengthening". You know the typical post-op LL walk where you can't properly bend your knees, nothing crazy. Though according to TheDream it's not normal to walk like that 55 days after lengthening. I don't know enough about LL to comment on whether that's accurate or not.

It was more about the total lengthening amount being over 12 cm in one segment than the walk itself.

[Kintaeryos]

It was more about the total lengthening amount being over 12 cm in one segment than the walk itself.

Ah gotcha. Yeah 12 cm (the typical safe limit for double LL) on femurs is insane.

[YOUNGandSTRONG]

Just a short clip of the uploader penguin-walking down a corridor with no crutches or other support titled "55 days after lengthening". You know the typical post-op LL walk where you can't properly bend your knees, nothing crazy. Though according to TheDream it's not normal to walk like that 55 days after lengthening. I don't know enough about LL to comment on whether that's accurate or not.

Woah, I would like to see the video

[Acemace86]

Apparently he made them private.