Topic: Hey guys (Read 6027 times)

FutureTaller · « **on:** August 19, 2014, 12:52:53 AM »

This is my first post and I'm really excited about the potential of cosmetic height surgery because I'll need it.

A bit about me

Age: 22
Status: University Student (hopefully employed)
Program: Commerce (oh I didn't take into account the shallow corporate world where heightism and image is everything!)
Ethnicity: Asian (Chinese)
Height: Night measurements stood at 169.7 cm (5'7), around 170 to 171 in the morning (5'7)
Goal: Maybe 5'9 or 5'10 without losing significant abilities to work out, long distance running, and playing sports from time to time

I would be okay with low risk 5cm. I have no desire to be super tall, I would be happy to bump myself to average knowing the risk potentials out there. I feel that my quality of life would improve with additional inches. I feel that taller guys always get a free pass in society and have no need to work hard. Silver platter privileges.

KiloKAHN · « **Reply #1 on:** August 19, 2014, 02:39:08 AM »

Hi FutureTaller, welcome to the forum.

Your goals are very sensible. Which surgeon and method are you interested in for lengthening?

programdude · « **Reply #2 on:** August 19, 2014, 02:43:09 AM »

You sound responsible and have the same starting height and goal as my asian friend here- My best advice is heading into this with a good support system. Two inches would be easy and 3 is achievable assuming we are talking femurs.

FutureTaller · « **Reply #3 on:** August 19, 2014, 02:48:05 AM »

To be honest, I'm still familiarizing myself with the process of lengthening. I've looked into Paley and a bit on Guichet. There are also options with Xia in Beijing and perhaps Germany. I still lack knowledge but I'm learning

programdude · « **Reply #4 on:** August 19, 2014, 02:52:13 AM »

This is a very mentally trying process, so no matter where you go, have someone with you. I have been satisfied so far with Paley, the PT and organization to be specific, and believe him and Guciet are the most responsible choices with the most promising results. If Guciet has been in my country I would have gone with him, as his full weight bearing nail is very ideal.

What is your budget? Neither Paley or Guciet are cheap.

FutureTaller · « **Reply #5 on:** August 19, 2014, 03:01:24 AM »

I've been saving up for a while. After this summer I have around 40K with some additional earnings. Yeah, Paley is quite costly and I do understand that there is pain involved. He and Guichet were the first doctors I've ever heard of. I've also corresponded with Paley via e-mail and he gave me an information package.

programdude · « **Reply #6 on:** August 19, 2014, 03:04:50 AM »

40k is way way less than you would need for either Paley or Guciet unfortunately.

FutureTaller · « **Reply #7 on:** August 19, 2014, 03:08:34 AM »

I've got more things to worry about

1) I live in Canada (travel costs)

2) My parents are never going to entertain this idea at all (friends don't know)

3) I've never faced height ism thus far ( but I always wanted to be a little taller no matter what)

programdude · « **Reply #8 on:** August 19, 2014, 03:25:43 AM »

Wait and do some savings or seek out a cheaper alternative(I don't recommend the latter).

KiloKAHN · « **Reply #9 on:** August 19, 2014, 04:00:50 AM »

Quote from: FutureTaller on August 19, 2014, 03:01:24 AM

I've been saving up for a while. After this summer I have around 40K with some additional earnings. Yeah, Paley is quite costly and I do understand that there is pain involved. He and Guichet were the first doctors I've ever heard of. I've also corresponded with Paley via e-mail and he gave me an information package.

Provided you wish to lengthen tibias, there are external or LON/LATN options that you can easily afford.

Sweden · « **Reply #10 on:** August 19, 2014, 10:54:36 AM »

You can forget about long distance running, at least for 3 years +

5cm is sensible.

I'd recommend tibias and preferably external only so you don't need to open your knees for a rod. It is devastating for your knees.

Medium Drink Of Water · « **Reply #11 on:** August 19, 2014, 11:57:04 AM »

I agree with Sweden: don't put a nail into your tibia. You don't want to risk permanent knee issues.

I'd do external-only on my tibiae if I could go back and do it over.

FutureTaller · « **Reply #12 on:** August 19, 2014, 12:35:25 PM »

Thanks for the tips. I have heard about knee issues. Do you have knee problems when you kneel?

FutureTaller · « **Reply #13 on:** August 19, 2014, 12:36:20 PM »

I dont do long distance running frequently, only from time to time. If its not a permenant loss, then its fine with me

Sweden · « **Reply #14 on:** August 19, 2014, 12:53:42 PM »

Quote from: FutureTaller on August 19, 2014, 12:35:25 PM

Thanks for the tips. I have heard about knee issues. Do you have knee problems when you kneel?

Evert time you've been still for more than a minute then it takes a couple of seconds "to get started" again.

Some days your knees ache more than others. Some days it's fine.
You will definitely feel it every day, more or less.

If you're exercising you won't feel anything(remember: it's all individual).

You won't know if you'll be permanently affected but most things heal with time.
With 5cm you'll most likely be okay.
I wish I'd rather would have done 5cm on tibias. Recovery time is also devastating to your psychological state of mind.
I've been so down bc of all the setbacks I've been facing that I've even considered killing myself. I can't stand a physically challenged life.

But yesterday I fought for a full hour in Taekwondo class doing rather good even though I'm slow as a beginner but I think I can work up my explosivity in my muscles again.

123 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 19, 2014, 12:56:11 PM »

Like Sweden and Medium Drink Of Water already said, 5cm external only tibia (or maybe even 5.5cm or 6cm) would be the best solution for you. You should be back to normal life after 8-9 months and you would benefit greatly from it because you would be around average height then.

If you have any other questions about this, just PM me

FutureTaller · « **Reply #16 on:** August 19, 2014, 01:09:22 PM »

Thanks for the advice. Now Ill just get back to raising more money. BTW, for those who had Paley or Guichet, how did u guys acquire the funds

IwannaBeTaller · « **Reply #17 on:** August 19, 2014, 01:12:20 PM »

Quote from: 123 on August 19, 2014, 12:56:11 PM

Like Sweden and Medium Drink Of Water already said, 5cm external only tibia (or maybe even 5.5cm or 6cm) would be the best solution for you. You should be back to normal life after 8-9 months and you would benefit greatly from it because you would be around average height then.

If you have any other questions about this, just PM me

External takes a long time in frames though. Wouldn't 5-6 centimetres mean you're in frames for over a year?

Overdozer · « **Reply #18 on:** August 19, 2014, 01:22:11 PM »

Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on August 19, 2014, 01:12:20 PM

External takes a long time in frames though. Wouldn't 5-6 centimetres mean you're in frames for over a year?

Depends on how fast you consolidate and it's individual, but rarely it takes over a year for just 5-6cm. At Ilizarov's Centre they say it usually takes just 2 month of fixation for 5cm and then extra month for every cm over. If you have good bone regenerating capabilities and eat well, walk some for good blood flow and also throw some HGH in, I image it's possible to heal in less than a month.

IwannaBeTaller · « **Reply #19 on:** August 19, 2014, 02:57:09 PM »

Quote from: exclide on August 19, 2014, 01:22:11 PM

Depends on how fast you consolidate and it's individual, but rarely it takes over a year for just 5-6cm. At Ilizarov's Centre they say it usually takes just 2 month of fixation for 5cm and then extra month for every cm over. If you have good bone regenerating capabilities and eat well, walk some for good blood flow and also throw some HGH in, I image it's possible to heal in less than a month.

Sounds good. I think external lengthening really is the best choice if you only wanna do 5 cm and avoid knee problems.

Medium Drink Of Water · « **Reply #20 on:** August 19, 2014, 03:02:03 PM »

Quote from: 123 on August 19, 2014, 12:56:11 PM

Like Sweden and Medium Drink Of Water already said, 5cm external only tibia (or maybe even 5.5cm or 6cm) would be the best solution for you. You should be back to normal life after 8-9 months and you would benefit greatly from it because you would be around average height then.

If you have any other questions about this, just PM me

I don't think there is a "5cm rule" for LL. Everybody is different. None of my knee problems came from doing 7.5cm; all of them came from the internal nail in my tibiae.

FutureTaller · « **Reply #21 on:** August 19, 2014, 03:14:16 PM »

According to Paley up to 5cm is low risk. 8cm is medium risk and anything higher is more risk. I might opt for 5.5cm external tibia. definitely dont want any knee problems. My proportions may make me look small because my feet size is 8.5

FutureTaller · « **Reply #22 on:** August 20, 2014, 01:49:28 AM »

Quote from: programdude on August 19, 2014, 03:04:50 AM

40k is way way less than you would need for either Paley or Guciet unfortunately.

I'm estimating it will cost over 200K (travel costs included from Canada to the US) for Paley. How much did you pay and how did you get the funds. Also, I think Paley has a 5K reduction somewhere. It was mentioned on this forum.

alps · « **Reply #23 on:** August 20, 2014, 08:27:08 PM »

Why will it cost so much to travel?

programdude · « **Reply #24 on:** August 20, 2014, 09:44:16 PM »

Quote from: FutureTaller on August 20, 2014, 01:49:28 AM

I'm estimating it will cost over 200K (travel costs included from Canada to the US) for Paley. How much did you pay and how did you get the funds. Also, I think Paley has a 5K reduction somewhere. It was mentioned on this forum.

Its 85k after this discount but including ITB release. if you are just doing femur it is around 100k total.

FutureTaller · « **Reply #25 on:** August 20, 2014, 11:30:22 PM »

Quote from: short_and_depressed on August 20, 2014, 08:27:08 PM

Why will it cost so much to travel?

My bad. I overestimated the costs just to be on the safe side.

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