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[tallertaller]

Perhaps I just missed it but I couldn’t find anywhere in your diary that states your tibia to femur ratio or measurements either before or after lengthening.

I talked about it before. It should be in diary somewhere. There’s like months of content

[(w)heel(s)]

Congratulations on an absolutely impressive result (lenght wise and recovery wise)!

If you ever got distrupted by some comments here, let me remind you, that height is immediately noticable by everybody and proportions are almost never noticed by anybody.
Without any doubt you did a good trade.

Plus long legs are attractive in gereral (models, high heels, bikini design).

Wish you a fast recovery. Good to see a positive result.

[Bagga]

Welcome

Thank you

Yeah check out my diary

Thank you for sharing.
Hope you have no pains or complication, smooth recovery!
Your duck ass and swaying are obvious, do a lot of stretching or hydropathy can help alot.

Cheerios!

[tallertaller]

Congratulations on an absolutely impressive result (lenght wise and recovery wise)!

If you ever got distrupted by some comments here, let me remind you, that height is immediately noticable by everybody and proportions are almost never noticed by anybody.
Without any doubt you did a good trade.

Plus long legs are attractive in gereral (models, high heels, bikini design).

Wish you a fast recovery. Good to see a positive result.

Take nothing personal and move on you already know friend. yes i agree with you

Massive respect, the most length I've ever seen gained on here in a single segment.

Don't pay any attempt to the haters who are bitter they're remaining short. 12cm is absolutely life changing. Some guys just lack the balls to change their life for the better, hence the constant squawking about "safe limits" and going for pathetically low targets.

It looks fine, granted you might want to stay away from beaches and swimming pools, but no one will notice anything when fully clothed and by the time you're nked in front of a girl she's going to bang you anyway at that point. Great job.

It was hard long journey but made it. Everyone wants to be taller but not everyone is willing take the risk and put the work needed. If i was only able to do 3cm and gave up due to pain and not stretching enough, then blame it on consolidation to feel better i would forever have regret too. so its ok i also understand it. just feel sorry for them. but life goes on. yes im just enjoying the result now

Thank you for sharing.
Hope you have no pains or complication, smooth recovery!
Your duck ass and swaying are obvious, do a lot of stretching or hydropathy can help alot.

Cheerios!

yes the final 20% as the PT calls it, fixing the final things through exercise sway, duck, etc and return to normal. its almost like a race against time because the longer you stay like this the harder it is to return to normal. so im working on them all daily

appreciate you guys. this is going to be my last post on this forum. i wont be back to this forum or check anymore. if you want to stay updated or have questions make sure you follow my diary and ask them on there and i will post periodic updates there for you to learn from. good luck all

ask questions or contact on my diary for a response - https://linktr.ee/limblengthening

[Confidence]

Congratulations on 12+ cm.  Also, respect to how you're dealing with some of the proportion comments here; you're right, they're all just opinions.  In contrast, I'll give you my opinion: your proportions look fine and 12+ cm added height is life changing.  I'm happy for you.  Best of luck with recovery!  Keep us updated

[slowed & reverb]

If you think his proportions are fine, you must be either blind or you are just gaslighting him. Have you seen the videos of him walking? It is literally ridiculous that this surgery is called a cosmestic one after seeing his proportions… Not mentioning the fact he most likely wont do one FULL squat in the future. I am begging people on this forum to be objective.

[informationispower]

If you think his proportions are fine, you must be either blind or you are just gaslighting him. Have you seen the videos of him walking? It is literally ridiculous that this surgery is called a comestic one after seeing his proportions… Not mentioning the fact he most likely wont do one FULL squat in the future. I am begging people on this forum to be objective.

Of course all these guys say his proportions are fine. All are height obsessed weirdos. Even OP with his acid comments towards lessthanaverage... Funny he makes fun of him while looking like a freak and still ending up being shorter than him lol

[slowed & reverb]

Real. I just dont get anyone who has done more than 6 cm on femur/5 cm on tibias. The more I learn about this surgery, proportions and time passes the more I start to "sober". 9 months ago i was sure I would do 11 cms on both segments, now I know that in order to look normal, 8-9cm in both segments is max you can get away with.

[informationispower]

Real. I just dont get anyone who has done more than 6 cm on femur/5 cm on tibias. The more I learn about this surgery, proportions and time passes the more I start to "sober". 9 months ago i was sure I would do 11 cms on both segments, now I know that in order to look normal, 8-9cm in both segments is max you can get away with.

You can get 10-12 in both segments but usually imo 10 lcms is the max. Afterwards torso to lleg ratio starts to look off. Again this is my own personal opinion. If OP is hurt by this and starts insulting me like he did with lessthanaverage, he should just admit to himself that he is ashamed to look at himself in the mirror

[GrowGrow123]

Proportions are cope.

Anyone who thinks being 5’ 3” with “normal” proportions is better than being 5’ 8” with worse proportions is an idiot.

OP has a long road to recovery ahead of him, but his life is definitely going to be better for it.

[informationispower]

Proportions are cope.

Anyone who thinks being 5’ 3” with “normal” proportions is better than being 5’ 8” with worse proportions is an idiot.

OP has a long road to recovery ahead of him, but his life is definitely going to be better for it.

You are right to an extent. The lower the starting height, the less important are proportions. But what is better? 5'8 proportional or 6'1 with 12cm added to femurs?
Imo the first.
The taller you are, the less you need to lengthen to get good results (2 inches added to 5'7-5-9 guys is muuuuuuch more worth than 2 inches added to a 5'3 guy) and the more you have to lose

[GrowGrow123]

You are right to an extent. The lower the starting height, the less important are proportions. But what is better? 5'8 proportional or 6'1 with 12cm added to femurs?
Imo the first.
The taller you are, the less you need to lengthen to get good results (2 inches added to 5'7-5-9 guys is muuuuuuch more worth than 2 inches added to a 5'3 guy) and the more you have to lose

I’m not recommending people do 12 cm on femurs. But everyone’s situation is different. OP’s starting height of 5’ 3” is tiny. Doing only two inches wouldn’t have done very much for him. He’d still be tiny afterwards. He also didn’t have the time or resources to do two surgeries so he had to get what he could out of one surgery. Lastly, he doesn’t care about athletic functionality. That was an acceptable trade-off for him.

Imo, for most people, 8cm on femurs strikes the right balance. Safe. Solid athletic recovery. Meaningful height difference. Doesn’t drastically affect proportions. And do-able in just one surgery.

Going for anything less than 5cm, imo, and this surgery is just not worth it. Better to save your time and money, spare yourself a whole lot of pain / suffering, and focus on other things.

[Confidence]

Real. I just dont get anyone who has done more than 6 cm on femur/5 cm on tibias. The more I learn about this surgery, proportions and time passes the more I start to "sober". 9 months ago i was sure I would do 11 cms on both segments, now I know that in order to look normal, 8-9cm in both segments is max you can get away with.

No.  The more you overthink about it the more you become crazy.  If you're that worried about proportions then you clearly have body dysmorphic disorder problems.  But sure, go do 8cm quadrilateral man.  It's your opinion, your money, and your time.

[informationispower]

I’m not recommending people do 12 cm on femurs. But everyone’s situation is different. OP’s starting height of 5’ 3” is tiny. Doing only two inches wouldn’t have done very much for him. He’d still be tiny afterwards. He also didn’t have the time or resources to do two surgeries so he had to get what he could out of one surgery. Lastly, he doesn’t care about athletic functionality. That was an acceptable trade-off for him.

Imo, for most people, 8cm on femurs strikes the right balance. Safe. Solid athletic recovery. Meaningful height difference. Doesn’t drastically affect proportions. And do-able in just one surgery.

Going for anything less than 5cm, imo, and this surgery is just not worth it. Better to save your time and money, spare yourself a whole lot of pain / suffering, and focus on other things.

I agree with you 100% on the first paragraph.
For the second one, from seeing other people post op pics and vids (and my own mock-ups) I think that 6cms is the max on femurs where your proportions look OK... afterwards for some it looks natural while for others imo it doesn't. Same with recovery. 6-6.5cms seems to be practically a guaranteed almost 100% recovery while above it starts to become really different over each patient.

Kinda agree with the final paragraph but for tibs I believe 3-3.5cms to be the minimum (hence why imo it is better to do femurs)

[Confidence]

Of course all these guys say his proportions are fine. All are height obsessed weirdos. Even OP with his acid comments towards lessthanaverage... Funny he makes fun of him while looking like a freak and still ending up being shorter than him lol

That's funny you think he looks like a freak.  I think he looks fine.  Just goes to show how subjective proportions really is; which is exactly why it's cope.

[slowed & reverb]

And now youre gaslighting yourself

[informationispower]

That's funny you think he looks like a freak.  I think he looks fine.  Just goes to show how subjective proportions really is; which is exactly why it's cope.

10cms on fems. You can't tell me that looks natural
https://imgur.com/a/lwaEbGT

[Ahri]

It creates a huge discrepancy between tibia and femur length. Most people would notice it seems off, but honestly they may not know why. I care less about it looking weird and more about the safety of consolidating over 12 cm of bone :/ You tell patients with height dysphoria they can do 12+ cm no problem then they’re all obviously going to jump on it and do that, rather than be safe about it and do 6-8.

[JON SNOW]

It creates a huge discrepancy between tibia and femur length. Most people would notice it seems off, but honestly they may not know why. I care less about it looking weird and more about the safety of consolidating over 12 cm of bone :/ You tell patients with height dysphoria they can do 12+ cm no problem then they’re all obviously going to jump on it and do that, rather than be safe about it and do 6-8.

100% agree,  every centimeter above 6.5 cm in the femurs and 4.5 cm in the tibias and recovery and complications increase exponentially.

It's up to each one to decide if it's worth it

but at one point it is just being irresponsible with your own health

[Confidence]

And now youre gaslighting yourself

Nah.  I just don’t agree with your opinion.  Because it’s just that; an opinion.

[Confidence]

10cms on fems. You can't tell me that looks natural
https://imgur.com/a/lwaEbGT

Looks fine to me

[informationispower]

Looks fine to me

Each to his own I guess..
BTW, this guy is going for another 7cms on tibia with LLT I the coming weeks

[Philosopher]

Congratulations!

Just out of curiosity, how did you mange to achieve such an impressive result (did you already have longer legs/high flexibility or special conditions like achondroplasia, etc.), while others only achieve 8-9 at best? Did you just have more motivation or is there something exceptional with your physiology?

I myself am considering to lenghten 12 cm with the same clinic, but I am worrying about not adhering to the 8-9 cm limit. I don't really understand how that works. From your personal experience do you think that there is no such thing as 'natural static limits', and you just have to work harder every cm you gain more? For example, if one patient went through a lot of pain (you can say, went over his 'natural limit') to achieve the same gain, while the other patient almost had none, do you think the complications for the one who went over his natural limit will still be manageable, but with relatively more work? In simple words, if a patient achieved a certain amount within their limits, does that imply that all patients can achieve it, even if it may not be within their natural limit, but with relatively more manageable difficulties?

Also, well, you can always say everyone has different limits, but I don't believe there is a fundamental/major differences in bone/tissue parameters within a similar age group of people of certain height (if you accept that you didn't have any special physiological conditions like increased bone density, unusual muscle flexibility, etc. that could have made your achievement easier), unless I am missing something, so please correct me here if I am wrong.

[Body Builder]

Congratulations!

Just out of curiosity, how did you mange to achieve such an impressive result (did you already have longer legs/high flexibility or special conditions like achondroplasia, etc.), while others only achieve 8-9 at best? Did you just have more motivation or is there something exceptional with your physiology?

I myself am considering to lenghten 12 cm with the same clinic, but I am worrying about not adhering to the 8-9 cm limit. I don't really understand how that works. From your personal experience do you think that there is no such thing as 'natural static limits', and you just have to work harder every cm you gain more? For example, if one patient went through a lot of pain (you can say, went over his 'natural limit') to achieve the same gain, while the other patient almost had none, do you think the complications for the one who went over his natural limit will still be manageable, but with relatively more work? In simple words, if a patient achieved a certain amount within their limits, does that imply that all patients can achieve it, even if it may not be within their natural limit, but with relatively more manageable difficulties?

Also, well, you can always say everyone has different limits, but I don't believe there is a fundamental/major differences in bone/tissue parameters within a similar age group of people of certain height (if you accept that you didn't have any special physiological conditions like increased bone density, unusual muscle flexibility, etc. that could have made your achievement easier), unless I am missing something, so please correct me here if I am wrong.

Anyone can lengthen that much. What matters is how functional you'll be after that and this fellow ller haven't even finished primary rehabilitation to see his results.
Almost noone can achieve that lengthenings without major problems afterwards. Even people with much taller initial height. And it is a truly a bad idea to exceed 8cm on femurs or 9 if you are too flexible to begin with. And of course with a fully itb release something that Becken doesn't even do, although he lets craxy amounts of lengthening.

[Stubborn Knucklehead]

Proportions are cope.

Anyone who thinks being 5’ 3” with “normal” proportions is better than being 5’ 8” with worse proportions is an idiot.

OP has a long road to recovery ahead of him, but his life is definitely going to be better for it.

The problem is this dude is 5’8” now with the tibias of a dude who’s 5’3” and it just looks pretty jarring. To make matters worse, he looks like he had short tibias to begin with, so now they look really out of place. I know being taller is nice, but his legs look deformed from what he’s done. He’d probably benefit from lengthening his tibias, but then his torso and arms will be too short for his new frame. 

[YOUNGandSTRONG]

He mentioned that he would probably have a second surgery of tibia after he had recovered mentally and physically from the first surgery.

[EndGame]

He mentioned that he would probably have a second surgery of tibia after he had recovered mentally and physically from the first surgery.

Who are you talking about? A few days ago OP was asked about Tibia LL and OP said not planning or considering it. 

[GrowGrow123]

The problem is this dude is 5’8” now with the tibias of a dude who’s 5’3” and it just looks pretty jarring. To make matters worse, he looks like he had short tibias to begin with, so now they look really out of place. I know being taller is nice, but his legs look deformed from what he’s done. He’d probably benefit from lengthening his tibias, but then his torso and arms will be too short for his new frame.

Here’s another dude that did 11.5cm. His life has been majorly improved. Almost no one in the outside world is going to notice proportions:

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.msg268348#msg268348

[lessthanavg8300]

Here’s another dude that did 11.5cm. His life has been majorly improved. Almost no one in the outside world is going to notice proportions:

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.msg268348#msg268348

StandTaller started with femurs that were literally shorter than his tibias fyi.  So him doing 11cm is like a normal person doing 7 or 8.

[GrowGrow123]

StandTaller started with femurs that were literally shorter than his tibias fyi.  So him doing 11cm is like a normal person doing 7 or 8.

Source?

The average Tibia to Femur ratio is 0.80 with a standard deviation of like 0.02. You’re telling me this dude is like 10 standard deviations above the average? I don’t buy that at all.

In this study of over 1000 people, no one was remotely close to having tibias longer than their femur:

https://www.mdpi.com/2673-4036/1/2/9

[mate10000w]

StandTaller started with femurs that were literally shorter than his tibias fyi.  So him doing 11cm is like a normal person doing 7 or 8.

Are you sure this is true?? Do you have source? I have been following stand taller logs for a long time and never heard this till now.

Source?

The average Tibia to Femur ratio is 0.80 with a standard deviation of like 0.02. You’re telling me this dude is like 10 standard deviations above the average? I don’t buy that at all.

In this study of over 1000 people, no one was remotely close to having tibias longer than their femur:

https://www.mdpi.com/2673-4036/1/2/9

I also don’t buy it. I did 10cm on femurs. Before and after never got 1 single comment or look towards my porportions. I’m healed and waking normal long time. I looks completely regular. OP also looks normal on his poroptions. Only thing visible anyone can honestly tell is anterior pelvic tilt which needs physical therapy to resolve. Much respect to OP he a legend. I did it on my femurs and literally nobody can even tell nothing about no proportions