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I did over 12cm on femurs. (Ask Me Anything)..
« on: August 25, 2023, 11:51:20 AM »

Read my entire diary - https://www.limblengthening/threads/betzbone-surgery-dr-becker-january-2023.5/

I did lengthening from 02/2023 to 07/2023. My operation was on jan 27, 2023.

You can ask my any questions and I will do my best to answer. Im not an expert but i know what i know from my experience thus far. I completed my lengthening about 30ish days ago.

Here is my latest walking video
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2023, 07:10:52 PM »

Walking unaided without crutches at 1 month post lengthening before consolidation at 12+ cm seems dangerous.
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2023, 07:36:35 PM »

Going back and reading through old threads, a lot of patients seem to have issues with bent and broken nails despite being advertised as full weight bearing. If they’re asking you to advertise for them not using crutches it seems reckless.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2405.62
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2023, 10:54:47 PM »

How do you feel about your proportions?
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2023, 11:07:27 PM »

Walking unaided without crutches at 1 month post lengthening before consolidation at 12+ cm seems dangerous.

Weight bearing nail.

Going back and reading through old threads, a lot of patients seem to have issues with bent and broken nails despite being advertised as full weight bearing. If they’re asking you to advertise for them not using crutches it seems reckless.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2405.62

Idk. Can’t speak for others. My own experience it’s been good thus far from surgery till done lengthening

How do you feel about your proportions?

Never really thought about it. Main focus was on getting through in a safe manner. To me it’s visually normal. after seeing people nobody has been able to tell change in porpotions specifically. At most they think I got skinnier. Or something is different but they can’t quite pin point it
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2023, 03:29:50 PM »

Do you plan on lengthening your tibias? As they are right now, they seem very disproportionally small for how long your femur looks. I think your legs might look a little more normal if you lengthened your tibias somewhat.
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2023, 04:50:21 PM »

Do you plan on lengthening your tibias? As they are right now, they seem very disproportionally small for how long your femur looks. I think your legs might look a little more normal if you lengthened your tibias somewhat.

Yeah I didnt want to say anything but the proportions look off.  And when you wear pants they usually look even more off than shorts do so curious how that looks.  If this were me id be thinking about tibias.  3-4CM on tibs would make a huge difference.  Sorry bro but gotta be honest with ya.
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2023, 06:07:30 PM »

Why you lengthened that much? At 12cm your biomechanics will be totally ruined. Also your proportions seem off but thats an aesthetic issue and maybe you like what you see which is the most important after all. But still your biomechanics won't be close to normal and I wonder even if.your gait will be 100%.
Why always Betz and now his cosmetic doctor-apprentice ruin their patients by letting them lengthen that insanely much?

Sorry for my somewhat hard words but 12cm are not a sensible amount of lengthening and I really wonder why you did that much. I understamd that you had a very short height to begin with but thats an extra reason to not lengthem that much in one segment, not to lengthen with one LL how about as much as you should have lengthened in both segments!
I don't have anything other to ask personally, after all you just started rehabilitation. I would be very curious if you will walk normally after 6 months and if you can run, even slow, 1 year after. I hope you'll do.

Keep strong!
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2023, 06:25:18 PM »

Why you lengthened that much? At 12cm your biomechanics will be totally ruined. Also your proportions seem off but thats an aesthetic issue and maybe you like what you see which is the most important after all. But still your biomechanics won't be close to normal and I wonder even if.your gait will be 100%.
Why always Betz and now his cosmetic doctor-apprentice ruin their patients by letting them lengthen that insanely much?

Sorry for my somewhat hard words but 12cm are not a sensible amount of lengthening and I really wonder why you did that much. I understamd that you had a very short height to begin with but thats an extra reason to not lengthem that much in one segment, not to lengthen with one LL how about as much as you should have lengthened in both segments!
I don't have anything other to ask personally, after all you just started rehabilitation. I would be very curious if you will walk normally after 6 months and if you can run, even slow, 1 year after. I hope you'll do.

Keep strong!

The good news is Becker patients do well in recovery even the ones who do crazy length like 12CM.  Ive seen it first hand.  Its really an aesthetics and biomechanics thing.  My personal view is 8CM should be the absolute max anyone does on femurs.  Beyond that you need to start looking at quad LL.

But Beckers approach is basically like most plastic surgeons.  He will do what you want as long as its safe.  He has no input on what you want to do to your body from an aesthetic perspective -  thats basically up to the patient.  And he does provide mock-ups on what you will look like so theres nothing left to the imagination.  Even with a 6CM mock-up my legs started to look like caterpillars so I have no idea why anyone would go for twice that much but to each their own.
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2023, 11:49:09 PM »

Do you plan on lengthening your tibias? As they are right now, they seem very disproportionally small for how long your femur looks. I think your legs might look a little more normal if you lengthened your tibias somewhat.

Not planning or considering. All is good now so life continues. Let’s go.

Yeah I didnt want to say anything but the proportions look off.  And when you wear pants they usually look even more off than shorts do so curious how that looks.  If this were me id be thinking about tibias.  3-4CM on tibs would make a huge difference.  Sorry bro but gotta be honest with ya.

Good luck on tibias. Sorry for your result. Your journey has been hard I feel for you. But I’m trying to avoid being up like you. 3.2cm and give up couldn’t click due to not enough stretching now have regret debating rebreaking and doing more is hard life. I can imagine, I can’t take your advice serious sorry. It’s like advice from about swimming from a person who can’t even swim.

I used your diary previous and tried to learn from your mistakes so I appreciate your contributions.

Why you lengthened that much? At 12cm your biomechanics will be totally ruined. Also your proportions seem off but thats an aesthetic issue and maybe you like what you see which is the most important after all. But still your biomechanics won't be close to normal and I wonder even if.your gait will be 100%.
Why always Betz and now his cosmetic doctor-apprentice ruin their patients by letting them lengthen that insanely much?

Sorry for my somewhat hard words but 12cm are not a sensible amount of lengthening and I really wonder why you did that much. I understamd that you had a very short height to begin with but thats an extra reason to not lengthem that much in one segment, not to lengthen with one LL how about as much as you should have lengthened in both segments!
I don't have anything other to ask personally, after all you just started rehabilitation. I would be very curious if you will walk normally after 6 months and if you can run, even slow, 1 year after. I hope you'll do.

Keep strong!

Not sure about other patients. You have to ask them. Can only speak from my experience. Glad to answer your questions.

The good news is Becker patients do well in recovery even the ones who do crazy length like 12CM.  Ive seen it first hand.  Its really an aesthetics and biomechanics thing.  My personal view is 8CM should be the absolute max anyone does on femurs.  Beyond that you need to start looking at quad LL.

But Beckers approach is basically like most plastic surgeons.  He will do what you want as long as its safe.  He has no input on what you want to do to your body from an aesthetic perspective -  thats basically up to the patient.  And he does provide mock-ups on what you will look like so theres nothing left to the imagination.  Even with a 6CM mock-up my legs started to look like caterpillars so I have no idea why anyone would go for twice that much but to each their own.

Yes recovery is priority and all is on track. Grateful to get to this point. Feeling is goood and happy. It’s been long journey. Glad to be done almost. How do you know what is 6 is like, you did half of that in reality and gave up though.

Portion wise it’s normal even with +12cm. 99% of regular people without mental issue, self esteem, confidence, or something mentally going on won’t notice or bat a second eye towards it. At most they think you got skinnier if they knew you pre op. I’m speaking from experience not like figuratively doing 3 and imaging for more. I appreciate your insights.

For self esteem,confidence, mental stuff you may consider therapist for further help. They offer many tool to assist. I wish you the best on your journey
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2023, 11:58:48 PM »

Not planning or considering. All is good now so life continues. Let’s go.

Good luck on tibias. Sorry for your result. Your journey has been hard I feel for you. But I’m trying to avoid being up like you. 3.2cm and give up couldn’t click due to not enough stretching now have regret debating rebreaking and doing more is hard life. I can imagine, I can’t take your advice serious sorry. It’s like advice from about swimming from a person who can’t even swim.

I used your diary previous and tried to learn from your mistakes so I appreciate your contributions.

Not sure about other patients. You have to ask them. Can only speak from my experience. Glad to answer your questions.

Yes recovery is priority and all is on track. Grateful to get to this point. Feeling is goood and happy. It’s been long journey. Glad to be done almost. How do you know what is 6 is like, you did half of that in reality and gave up though.

Portion wise it’s normal even with +12cm. 99% of regular people without mental issue, self esteem, confidence, or something mentally going on won’t notice or bat a second eye towards it. At most they think you got skinnier if they knew you pre op. I’m speaking from experience not like figuratively doing 3 and imaging for more. I appreciate your insights.

For self esteem,confidence, mental stuff you may consider therapist for further help. They offer many tool to assist. I wish you the best on your journey

Yeah man NOBODY will notice those absurd proportions.  Your legs look like preying mantis legs.  I wasnt trying to insult you at first but if you're going to get salty about it then Ill tell you what I really think.  And my goal stated from my original journal was a max of 4CM or 5CM and this is exactly why.  I hit consolidation and its probably not worth a re-break since Im so close, not from "giving up". 

Anyway...others on here are saying the same thing.  You did too much and it looks ridiculous.  Your options now are to do tibias or you can just live with this I guess.  Post a video of you wearing pants and this sub is going to go wild.
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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2023, 12:22:49 AM »

Yeah man NOBODY will notice those absurd proportions.  Your legs look like preying mantis legs.  I wasnt trying to insult you at first but if you're going to get salty about it then Ill tell you what I really think.  And my goal stated from my original journal was a max of 4CM or 5CM and this is exactly why.  I hit consolidation and its probably not worth a re-break since Im so close, not from "giving up". 

Anyway...others on here are saying the same thing.  You did too much and it looks ridiculous.  Your options now are to do tibias or you can just live with this I guess.  Post a video of you wearing pants and this sub is going to go wild.

Yeah man NOBODY will notice those absurd proportions.  Your legs look like preying mantis legs.  I wasnt trying to insult you at first but if you're going to get salty about it then Ill tell you what I really think.  And my goal stated from my original journal was a max of 4CM or 5CM and this is exactly why.  I hit consolidation and its probably not worth a re-break since Im so close, not from "giving up". 

Anyway...others on here are saying the same thing.  You did too much and it looks ridiculous.  Your options now are to do tibias or you can just live with this I guess.  Post a video of you wearing pants and this sub is going to go wild.

However you want to justify your journey is ok for me. I know the reality. Hope it makes you happier. Have more self confidence sir
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2023, 12:27:57 AM »

However you want to justify your journey is ok for me. I know the reality. Hope it makes you happier. Have more self confidence sir

It doesnt look like reality is your jam or you wouldnt have max out the freaking nail at 5 foot 3.

Bickering aside I hope it works out for you.
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2023, 12:31:17 AM »

It doesnt look like reality is your jam or you wouldnt have max out the freaking nail at 5 foot 3.

Bickering aside I hope it works out for you.

Thank you yes you too
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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2023, 02:32:35 AM »

Yeah man NOBODY will notice those absurd proportions.  Your legs look like preying mantis legs.  I wasnt trying to insult you at first but if you're going to get salty about it then Ill tell you what I really think.  And my goal stated from my original journal was a max of 4CM or 5CM and this is exactly why.  I hit consolidation and its probably not worth a re-break since Im so close, not from "giving up". 

Anyway...others on here are saying the same thing.  You did too much and it looks ridiculous.  Your options now are to do tibias or you can just live with this I guess.  Post a video of you wearing pants and this sub is going to go wild.

The guy did 12cm on femur and you would recommend to then do tibias? Assuming you're talking about him trying to get back to the normal tibia/femur ratio he'd have to do 9.6cm! A guy who is originally 161cm. If you think he looks weird now why recommend he make things way worse just to worry about the tibia/femur ratio?
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2023, 02:34:41 AM »

Which doctors did you consider? How did you pick your doctor?
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2023, 02:56:38 AM »

The guy did 12cm on femur and you would recommend to then do tibias? Assuming you're talking about him trying to get back to the normal tibia/femur ratio he'd have to do 9.6cm! A guy who is originally 161cm. If you think he looks weird now why recommend he make things way worse just to worry about the tibia/femur ratio?

Don’t worry friend I take no offense 🙂 I love different opinions it makes things more engaging. It’s some people are not happy or have regrets or issues within them self and want to make others feel like them. Just take it as joke and move on is my mentality.

Which doctors did you consider? How did you pick your doctor?

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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2023, 04:37:13 AM »

The guy did 12cm on femur and you would recommend to then do tibias? Assuming you're talking about him trying to get back to the normal tibia/femur ratio he'd have to do 9.6cm! A guy who is originally 161cm. If you think he looks weird now why recommend he make things way worse just to worry about the tibia/femur ratio?

I assume he's recommending tibia surgery to improve the biomechanics. The more out of whack the tibia / femur proportions are, the worse the functionality will end up being. (Although I don't think OP necessarily cares about this).
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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2023, 04:46:15 AM »

Do you think you'll need an ITB release to fix the duck / lordosis? How long does Becker think it'll take to fix on it's own otherwise?
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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2023, 05:09:22 AM »

I assume he's recommending tibia surgery to improve the biomechanics. The more out of whack the tibia / femur proportions are, the worse the functionality will end up being. (Although I don't think OP necessarily cares about this).

More important things to concern over. Your right I don’t.  No idea what they mean I just take it as a joke 🙂 billions of people with billion opinions we can’t please them all

Do you think you'll need an ITB release to fix the duck / lordosis? How long does Becker think it'll take to fix on its own otherwise?

I had a left ITB tighter last pt meeting. All fixed by stretching I go more in depth in my diary on how this is fixed. And duck is ongoing still working fix it
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2023, 07:27:57 AM »

Don’t worry friend I take no offense 🙂 I love different opinions it makes things more engaging. It’s some people are not happy or have regrets or issues within them self and want to make others feel like them. Just take it as joke and move on is my mentality.

Check out my diary all of this answered there.

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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2023, 08:06:30 AM »

How long is your femurs now according to your xray?

My last xrays were at 12ish cm. I attached photos of the frontal and side view to my diary
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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2023, 11:22:05 AM »

My last xrays were at 12ish cm. I attached photos of the frontal and side view to my diary

No I mean the total length of femur.
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« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2023, 11:24:26 AM »

No I mean the total length of femur.

I dont know
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« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2023, 01:55:28 PM »

Hi! I'm going to becker for a first meeting next month and x-ray. Can you tell me something about the painkillers you got and for how long?
I dont want something like oxycontin cause its highly addictive. I'm planning to stay in freiburg for 6 months.


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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2023, 02:01:25 PM »

Hi! I'm going to becker for a first meeting next month and x-ray. Can you tell me something about the painkillers you got and for how long?
I dont want something like oxycontin cause its highly addictive. I'm planning to stay in freiburg for 6 months.


Hope you recover well. Good luck!

Best of luck. For me i went over the pain meds in my diary more in detail. I was not on oxycontin but i know others that were. Or if i was on oxycontin during hospital it might have been that time only. the main pain killers that is addicting that i took was tilidine.
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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2023, 02:14:29 PM »

Best of luck. For me i went over the pain meds in my diary more in detail. I was not on oxycontin but i know others that were. Or if i was on oxycontin during hospital it might have been that time only. the main pain killers that is addicting that i took was tilidine.

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« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2023, 03:36:06 PM »

Looks good bruh.  Nothing looks crazy which shows how wide range of normal is. Best of luck.
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« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2023, 05:23:05 PM »

I’d be curious to know your tibia to femur ratio now after lengthening. Normal range is supposed to be about .75-.8. Also I don’t mean to offend you and if you’re happy with how they look and function then all the more to you, but to me your tibia to femur ratio looks WELL beyond 2 standard deviations from the mean of normal humans.
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« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2023, 05:38:30 PM »

Thank you!

Welcome

Looks good bruh.  Nothing looks crazy which shows how wide range of normal is. Best of luck.

Thank you

I’d be curious to know your tibia to femur ratio now after lengthening. Normal range is supposed to be about .75-.8. Also I don’t mean to offend you and if you’re happy with how they look and function then all the more to you, but to me your tibia to femur ratio looks WELL beyond 2 standard deviations from the mean of normal humans.

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« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2023, 06:01:30 PM »

Yeah check out my diary

Perhaps I just missed it but I couldn’t find anywhere in your diary that states your tibia to femur ratio or measurements either before or after lengthening.
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