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[athenian1984]

According to google, the success rate for this surgery is 4 out of 10.

How accurate is this?

[otaviognu]

According to google, the success rate for this surgery is 4 out of 10.

How accurate is this?

Overall, limb lengthening surgeries have a high success rate (about 95%). Scarring is usually minimal since only small incisions are required in most procedures. Although minor problems may occur with pins and stiffening in the joints, serious complications from limb lengthening surgery are rare.

[Soldier]

This surgery is blowing up. Though silently. This forum is proof. More people are talking now than ever.

[jerrytheman]

Your question isn't specific enough. It depends on many factors, the 2 most important one being 1) Which doctor 2) What method

If you do External LON in Turkey, you're probably looking at a 25% success rate. Femur with Paley, probably 99%.

Also what is "success" to you? Being able to recover in the optimal average time? Or being able to recover at all. Delayed union is the most common complication. But it really just means your recovery period will be a couple months longer.

[Legs890]

Your question isn't specific enough. It depends on many factors, the 2 most important one being 1) Which doctor 2) What method

If you do External LON in Turkey, you're probably looking at a 25% success rate. Femur with Paley, probably 99%.

Also what is "success" to you? Being able to recover in the optimal average time? Or being able to recover at all. Delayed union is the most common complication. But it really just means your recovery period will be a couple months longer.

Saying the turkish clinics have a 25% is ridiculous. I don't doubt there's a higher percentage of complications there but you're only going to hear about bad results on this forum, if they actually crippled 75% of patients they'd have been shut down long ago.

The fact is, you'll probably be fine in Turkey, but it's higher risk than other places. Not even that much cheaper these days either.

[Maison]

While examining reports of victims of LLT and WBT in Turkey, I believe the major problem with their medical institutions is not the occurrence of complications themselves, but rather the lack of ability to detect them early on.
They probably won't share real statistics, and they keep saying that no doctor can prevent all complications.

If a patient's infection is missed for too long, it can turn into severe osteomyelitis, which would be obvious to anyone.
They would likely be unable to provide advanced treatments like the ones Hasaki received in the U.S., so in the worst case, the patient could face the possibility of losing a leg.

If you want to know the success rate of LL surgery, the following paper may be of reference:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7342054/
However, only a small portion of doctors write papers, and there are those who say that papers cannot always be trusted.

[jerrytheman]

Saying the turkish clinics have a 25% is ridiculous. I don't doubt there's a higher percentage of complications there but you're only going to hear about bad results on this forum, if they actually crippled 75% of patients they'd have been shut down long ago.

The fact is, you'll probably be fine in Turkey, but it's higher risk than other places. Not even that much cheaper these days either.

It's not regulated lol. A lot of victims have been trying to shut them down. If it were any other country in the world, you're right, they'd in fact be shut down a long time ago. 25% is a random number, but not out of the realm of possibility.

[JJ299]

It's not regulated lol. A lot of victims have been trying to shut them down. If it were any other country in the world, you're right, they'd in fact be shut down a long time ago. 25% is a random number, but not out of the realm of possibility.

Alright calm down. I'll agree on the fact that Turkey isn't comparable to other locations like EU/NA/Korea but thinking the success rate over there is at the realm of 20s and even 30s is ridiculous. Hundreds or even 1000+ of people with the ability to spend 40k+ do it at LLT every year and if the rate is that horrendous ( a number that rivals even some cancer survival rate ) then the place would definitely be investigated even in a less regulated place like Turkey - in fact if the success rate was that low they probably would be the nations biggest treatment centers in Turkey lol

[jerrytheman]

Alright calm down. I'll agree on the fact that Turkey isn't comparable to other locations like EU/NA/Korea but thinking the success rate over there is at the realm of 20s and even 30s is ridiculous. Hundreds or even 1000+ of people with the ability to spend 40k+ do it at LLT every year and if the rate is that horrendous ( a number that rivals even some cancer survival rate ) then the place would definitely be investigated even in a less regulated place like Turkey - in fact if the success rate was that low they probably would be the nations biggest treatment centers in Turkey lol

Well to give a good estimate on success rate. How about you define what "success" is to you. Is a super delayed union a success? Is a non-union where they need to do a bone graft a success? Is ultimately healing but going through multiple pain of infection, and 2 years of rehab a success?

Define it and we can debate what their. "success" rate is.

[lessthanavg8300]

According to google, the success rate for this surgery is 4 out of 10.

How accurate is this?

Its high unless you go to a third world butcher.  4 out of 10 sounds completely off.  But if you do have an issue like non-union you really are pretty f-cked and a certain amount of people will have this happen every year.  On some level you're always rolling the dice.

[JJ299]

Well to give a good estimate on success rate. How about you define what "success" is to you. Is a super delayed union a success? Is a non-union where they need to do a bone graft a success? Is ultimately healing but going through multiple pain of infection, and 2 years of rehab a success?

Define it and we can debate what their. "success" rate is.

You reading off this forum isn't a good indicator. LLT is an extremely large organization with thousands of cosmetic LL patients coming all across the world vs Paley who only does very limited cosmetic LL since he mainly deals with children. I am sorry to break it to you but a majority of people that come out of surgery from Turkey doesn't become crippled ( again your 2/10 statement).

Even LASIK ( the most popular and safe elective surgery) with its 95%+ satisfaction rate have people with complications and long term problems. Usually lot of the complaints come from big LASIK chains mostly because they are more recognizable to the public and the sheer amount of surgery they conduct vs a local Ophthalmologist.

[jerrytheman]

You reading off this forum isn't a good indicator. LLT is an extremely large organization with thousands of cosmetic LL patients coming all across the world vs Paley who only does very limited cosmetic LL since he mainly deals with children. I am sorry to break it to you but a majority of people that come out of surgery from Turkey doesn't become crippled ( again your 2/10 statement).

Even LASIK ( the most popular and safe elective surgery) with its 95%+ satisfaction rate have people with complications and long term problems. Usually lot of the complaints come from big LASIK chains mostly because they are more recognizable to the public and the sheer amount of surgery they conduct vs a local Ophthalmologist.

Isn't it funny you cant answer 1 single question yet you can yap about everything else. Define "success" and we can talk. There's nothing to debate even if you cant even give me your definition of what "success" mean in LLT. If being crippled for 2 years with multiple infections but ultimately healing is "success" to you, then that's fine. But you need to define it because you dont really know much about limb lengthening

[GrowGrow123]

Isn't it funny you cant answer 1 single question yet you can yap about everything else. Define "success" and we can talk. There's nothing to debate even if you cant even give me your definition of what "success" mean in LLT. If being crippled for 2 years with multiple infections but ultimately healing is "success" to you, then that's fine. But you need to define it because you dont really know much about limb lengthening

Hard agree, there are people getting LL in Turkey with very obvious complications like knock knees or ballerina feet. But they reached their goal height and they call it a "success". Then you don't hear from them ever again. To me, that is not a success. Nor is it a success if you then have to go to another doctor or surgeon to fix the complications caused by the initial LL surgery.

[Among us]

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[Among us]

I think about 90% at least, even in Turkey where I finished my LL journey. Out of around 20 patients I talked too, almost none of them had big issues. I know it's a small sample size but still.

[nick-sh.]

In Egypt , with dr. Yasser Elbatrawy ( the most irresponsible doctor worldwide for LL ) it is sure that you will never walk normally again.This guy destroyed my tibias . He has also a terrible personality.All his patients had many problems with him.
Failure rate = 95% at least

[JJ299]

Isn't it funny you cant answer 1 single question yet you can yap about everything else. Define "success" and we can talk. There's nothing to debate even if you cant even give me your definition of what "success" mean in LLT. If being crippled for 2 years with multiple infections but ultimately healing is "success" to you, then that's fine. But you need to define it because you dont really know much about limb lengthening

I was just countering your outlandish fiction of LLT having a 25% success rate and your source is basically reading handful of diaries in this forum even though LLT is probably one of the biggest LL surgery centers currently. If you have to know my definition of success surgery it's essentially a person being able to walk properly after 1+ year and unsurprisingly the majority of people in LLT is able to achieve this.

[guy_incognito]

IMO success rate is close to 100% for "better" methods. It does scale hard with money