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[Tovarish İlizarov]

The second mistake is that Yunus misled the patient. He ignored the progressive case of Osteomyelitis. Wbt company is not at fault in this incident, they are all extremely polite and helpful people.

[Tovarish İlizarov]

My advice to the WBT company is to thoroughly inspect the doctors they have signed a contract with. Also, I am really sorry about this young friend of ours, I am on the side of people, not exploited citizens.And I would like to mention this. Doctor Yunus is a very cautious doctor in height enlargement surgeries. I have not seen any bad surgery so far. He is a very reliable person and successful in his job. .Unlike other doctors, he never recommends lengthening more than 8 cm, which would endanger his patient! (LLT)

[Tovarish İlizarov]

His mistake in this case is that he should have told the patient about the progressive osteomyelitis case. Since he did not perform the surgery, he is not responsible for taking over the case. Yüksel's big mistakes do not require blaming others.

[Tovarish İlizarov]

As someone who had surgery in this company, I can say with all my sincerity that they are all very hospitable and understanding people (Tuğçe, Çağatay, Mehmet, Aylis, Ecem). But Yüksel's irresponsibility and the patient's stubbornness towards the WBT company brought the events to this situation.

[Tovarish İlizarov]

I hope this friend of ours will recover as soon as possible and continue his life in a healthy way. As a lengthening patient, I am truly sorry for these events.

[NOC]

The WBT staff knew that the girl's parents didn't know that the girl had been to Turkey for surgery and contacted the girl's friend and lied that the police would investigate the case, that the rapist’s lawyer would meet with the girl in the next few days and ask her to translate and also that the rapist's lawyer would contact the girl's parents and then the girl go to ask her,she told the girl that she wanna help her by replacing the police records of her parents' phone number with a fake one and asking the girl to tell her the parents' phone number, in a very cheap trick to ticking girl’s parents information . As expected after two months of waiting, no police contacted the girl at all.🤣

When the office staff came to the hotel, many male patients said that they were candid photographed by the staff after they had indicated that they did not want to be photographed. I believe that most people who undergo this surgery do not want others to know about it, and even if the photographs taken will not be leaked, the fact that the photographs are in the hands of this company will make the patients very uneasy. Not to mention the fact that there have been cases wherewbt post a photo have patient physical characteristics post on the social media, this patient also emphasized that he did not want to be photographed,so there is no protection for patient’s privacy.

They should go out of business.

[Perfect_Operation]

The Chinese communist party is a world power today, the great homeland will achieve communism. Betraying the Party is not a wise choice. Long live Comrade Mao Zedong.Stalin taught us that we must remain loyal to the people.What you are doing here is a betrayal of communism, a betrayal of the CKP and Lenin.

Chinese refers to race, not the nationality , and Chinese race also does not refer to mainland China. She have never been in contact with the Communist Party, so where does the betrayal come from? Such attacks on life are useless.

[Perfect_Operation]

As someone who had surgery in this company, I can say with all my sincerity that they are all very hospitable and understanding people (Tuğçe, Çağatay, Mehmet, Aylis, Ecem). But Yüksel's irresponsibility and the patient's stubbornness towards the WBT company brought the events to this situation.

We all agree that the hotel staff(physiotherapist and nurse )is good, but this does not mean that the company's office staff and management are good.Fyi:two of the people you mentioned have left the company due to dissatisfaction.

[Perfect_Operation]

They should go out of business.

Companies that make money unethically should not continue to exist to harm other people. They will only say that their surgery has a high success rate, but the important thing about this treatment is the sequelae. As far as I know, the incidence of serious sequelae such as osteonecrosis and bone nonunion among patients here is not low.They will never tell you that even if there are serious sequelae (osteomyelitis, bone nonunion, etc.) , it is still considered a successful operation.

[The Victims Of WannaBeTaller]

So the Chinese government should let WBT lure their citizens to Turkey to be crippled? Is this what you are saying?

I came across a comment from an internet user that I can't find now, but I remember it said, "limb lengthening surgery to increase height, you can go ahead and do it, but don't come out claiming to be a victim after something goes wrong. I believe that before undergoing this surgery, you knew that it was banned by the country. You must have also read a lot of negative news reports and know that it is an inhumane procedure and the consequences of failure. But you still chose to do it, and even went to a country like Turkey. So, if you end up disabled, it's your own fault." The language may be rough, but the reasoning is not wrong. It's difficult to persuade someone who refuses to listen to reason and lacks compassion for others. Let's respect the fate of others.

[Tovarish İlizarov]

To be honest, I think you are right. You misunderstood me because of the translation. I mentioned the unethical actions of Yunus and Yüksel. I wanted to say that the company's mistake is working with these people.But I wanted to say that the patient representatives, nurses and physiotherapists in the company have good intentions.

[The Victims Of WannaBeTaller]

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[Perfect_Operation]

To be honest, I think you are right. You misunderstood me because of the translation. I mentioned the unethical actions of Yunus and Yüksel. I wanted to say that the company's mistake is working with these people.But I wanted to say that the patient representatives, nurses and physiotherapists in the company have good intentions.

P.S.The girl who was almost raped is not the same girl who was left with severe sequelae.  I was talking about the girl who was almost raped.  I think you have mistakenly thought that the two girls are the same,that’s why we misunderstand each other.

[Tovarish İlizarov]

Democracy and the legal system in Turkey have collapsed. If you are a Japanese or European citizen, you are very lucky. Turkey is a Middle Eastern country. I am absolutely against having surgery here.

[Tovarish İlizarov]

Turkey is 50 years behind the USA, Japan, China and European countries. In this country, those who express political opinions are imprisoned. Coming here is like coming to North Korea.

[Perfect_Operation]

Turkey's legal loopholes allowed wbt to impunity to be irresponsible and distort the truth , and this company continues to operate and make money after it harms other people's bodies.  If in other countries, the person in charge of wbt would have been directly imprisoned. There will be so many former patients of WBT who will come out to expose the truth and earnestly advise others because we hope that we are the last batch of victims.  To judge whether a company is good or not, it depends on how it handles accidents and sequelae, not on how hotel staff greets you and seems friendly on weekends.Hotel staff do not have any power to make the company decision.The company's decision maker is the person sitting in the office. Even if the hotel staff treats you well, this will not guarantee you anything.

[Perfect_Operation]

 

[The Victims Of WannaBeTaller]

WBT's boss scolded the Chinese victims, saying that their speech was not gentlemanly enough. How about I leave you disabled and you try to maintain a gentlemanly demeanor?

[Tovarish İlizarov]

Could you inform us about your current situation?

[The Victims Of WannaBeTaller]

Lying flat on the bed, my knees are bent downward and the inner tendons of my knees are extremely painful. My lower back is also arching and feeling exhausted. When I relax, the inner tendons of my knees hurt even more when I bring my knees together and lower them. However, bending and folding my knees does not cause any pain, only when I lower them vertically do the inner tendons hurt.

[Beemer m3]

how long have it been after frames are removed? the instagram page i just looked at it and it was quite scary. didnt know u can be infected at the breakage site.

[Staystrong]

Agree!!
And some idiots still ask about Turkey to do LL there!
Insane!!!

[Avoid Wannabetaller ----Sarah]

Several former patients who were operated on when W first opened told me that their calves were only lengthened by 6 centimeters, but they permanently lost the ability to run and jump. This is very different from the athletic ability of cases where the surgery is more than 7 centimeters in China, South Korea, and Vietnam. W deceived him before the operation that he would be like a normal person in a few months after the operation. Among the first batch of patients with WBT, the probability of bone nonunion was as high as 60%. Six out of 10 patients developed bone nonunion. Many people have not been cured yet and suffered from depression. They contacted WBT, but WBT ignored them. W still has infection accidents caused by human factors, and W’s boss ,his nurses and Yunus still do not know how to deal with infections, and their handling attitude is still procrastination and contempt for patients' lives.

[Avoid Wannabetaller ----Sarah]

I found  that as long as I remain silent, there will be more and more  slander!Here full of lies and slander against me by W Travel and their loyal fans without any evidence! Their only purpose was clear: to blame all the faults on myself and to discredit me as an idiot who would deliberately cause osteomyelitis to himself and wait until it was serious to tell W.

 W’s boss and Xinjiang employees knew the whole incident, but they still chose to lie and slander me! Another employee of W in China also knew the whole incident. He chose not to cooperate with W anymore to prove the stupidity and moral corruption of boss W! He cleared all the ads of  W’s  ID and no longer helped W to promote patients.Because he also thought W’s boss was an extremely stupid ! He is also willing to use his influence to expose WBT! You can also learn about the morals of W’s boss from the founder of AFA!

 

[Avoid Wannabetaller ----Sarah]

And boss W’s failure to pay Yuksel’s salary led to conflicts between them, and the purchase of inferior Precise nails allowed Yuksel to experiment on the patient’s health many times, almost causing the patient to die on the operating table! W reneged on the promised 2-month accommodation fee compensation and instead asked her to introduce patients to get compensation! After being rejected by the patient, W asked the patient to pay for accommodation or threatened the patient that she would be jailed in Turkey for ten years! Even when patients returned to China, they were still threatened by W Travel Agency!

Yuksel is terrible, but he is the doctor that W has highly recommended to us, including Yunus! W recommends doctors and earns surgery fees and accommodation fees. They should be responsible for ensuring that the patient can walk normally instead of being disabled! Every time W crippled patients , they said they are just an intermediary and do not need to take responsibility. Then continue to deceive new patients with peace of mind!They before also promised me a lot that they were professional enough to resolve any complications and promised to cure me! In the end they only gave me the cheap gentamicin that is for  animals in China! The drug has serious side effects and has become resistant to it after being used for a long time, but W and Yunus said it would never be resistant to me! It was also wrong to instill antibiotics directly on the wound!

[Avoid Wannabetaller ----Sarah]

There was also a patient in Vietnam who had an internal infection similar to mine. The patient lived in his apartment for lengthening . When the redness, swelling and infection appeared, the Vietnamese doctors urgently arranged for nurses to perform debridement surgery on the patient,free hospitalize,free change dressings, and the expensive oral antibiotic linezolid is provided to Vietnamese patients for free!This top antibiotic sells for up to 5,000 yuan per box in China. Gentamicin can be bought for 2.5 yuan in 10 tubes on the Chinese Pinduoduo website, and is mainly used for animals.At last he hasn’t plengtrningerience the pain of infusion, and the infection was cured in just 3 days!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CwuMkNLrC2f/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[Avoid Wannabetaller ----Sarah]

First of all, the internal infection causes of our three patients were diagnosed by doctors from various countries as being caused by improper surgical disinfection, because none of the three of us had a history of trauma or infection. But this is not the point. the point is that I could have been cured through debridement during the acute attack of infection! When the wound misses the optimal time for debridement, the nail should be removed decisively to minimize the probability of recurrence!

I told W immediately when my leg suddenly swelled, and they told me to take antibiotics myself until it turned into osteomyelitis! But W and Yunus always said that the osteomyelitis was not serious and did not require debridement, and they also told me not to trust doctors other than Yunus! In the end, they abandoned me after causing me chronic osteomyelitis and threw all the responsibility on myself! I was in a hurry to return China for treatment and was too lazy to argue with them!

Until now ,this group of medically illiterate travel agents tour guides have been making a fuss about the cause of the infection. This group of liars has fabricated countless lies, and even slandered and attacked innocent and kind-hearted people who had nothing to do with W‘s  interests. They are accustomed to using these despicable methods to irritate the patients who expose them! Their only purpose is to put all the blame on myself, guide everyone to scold me for what I deserve, and guide everyone to sympathize with W Travel Agency!

[Avoid Wannabetaller ----Sarah]

 Before I have translated a large number of Chinese WeChat chat records into English to refute W's lies !Even if I post the evidence, there are still people who think it's fake!But they only believed the lies told by W Travel Agency!


 When I exposed W's improper treatment of infection and barbaric attitude of lying and slandering me, the stakeholders tried to fabricate topics other than surgery to slander and attack me. Their only purpose was to confuse everyone to slander me  and guide everyone to sympathize with W. Travel agency!

 I admit that it was stupid for me to choose to believe in W’s promise and treatment method. But when I told the truth, I thought everyone would become cautious and rational, but it seems that is not the case! This forum has been dominated by W officials and their loyal fans!

 I want to say that there are reasonable people on the forum, and there are also some people who are not worth our time to persuade them not to go to W Travel! Because their moral standards are the same as W’s boss! Only W Travel Agency in the world is best for them!But based on what I have known about W for three years, even if you compliment them, in addition to giving you a referral fee, discounted surgery fee and accommodation fee, there is no way to prevent them from maiming you and being irresponsible!You can only earn repair fees by continuously introducing patients to them!

[Avoid Wannabetaller ----Sarah]

Even though WBT, this anti-China travel agency, hates the Chinese so much in its heart and treats the Chinese like animals! But they never gave up on defrauding us of our RMB! The boss of W once tasted how big the cakes in China’s CLL market were! In addition, in order to compliment W and get special treatment, some Chinese patients helped W clean up his sins. They joined forces with W to use despicable means to silence the first batch of victims, and then they successfully deceived us! But we have all forgotten, how could a tour guide group with no medical knowledge, treacherous character and love of lying turn into an upright professional medical team so easily?

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 https://weibo.com/u/7830119929
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[Avoid Wannabetaller ----Sarah]

And boss W’s failure to pay Yuksel’s salary led to conflicts between them, and the purchase of inferior Precise nails allowed Yuksel to experiment on the patient’s health many times, almost causing the patient to die on the operating table! W reneged on the promised 2-month accommodation fee compensation and instead asked her to introduce patients to get compensation! After being rejected by the patient, W asked the patient to pay for accommodation or threatened the patient that she would be jailed in Turkey for ten years! Even when patients returned to China, they were still threatened by W Travel Agency!

Yuksel is terrible, but he is the doctor that W has highly recommended to us, including Yunus! W recommends doctors and earns surgery fees and accommodation fees. They should be responsible for ensuring that the patient can walk normally instead of being disabled! Every time W crippled patients , they said they are just an intermediary and do not need to take responsibility. Then continue to deceive new patients with peace of mind!They before also promised me a lot that they were professional enough to resolve any complications and promised to cure me! In the end they only gave me the cheap gentamicin that is for  animals in China! The drug has serious side effects and has become resistant to it after being used for a long time, but W and Yunus said it would never be resistant to me! It was also wrong to instill antibiotics directly on the wound!

After the patient complained, WBT reluctantly replaced the patient's nails with new ones during the fourth operation. Even though patient R was bleeding heavily and still had a fever, WBT still took her back to the hotel!
Then a group of people broke into her room in the middle of the night and demanded accommodation fees! If she didn't give it, WBT would snatch her lengthening tool and threaten to put her in jail for ten years in Turkey. WBT forcing the patient to commit suicide, R called a Turkish friend to help call the police. The police believed that W’s boss should not treat the patient in this way before the patient recovered.
The patient R left the hotel with the help of her friends the next day. Then W official publicly smeared her that she has threatened the travel agency with suicide ，to reduce her accommodation fee!
And after she returned to China, WBT once again threatened to hire a Chinese lawyer to sue her because she told the truth in the group!
 

[Avoid Wannabetaller ----Sarah]

After the patient complained, WBT reluctantly replaced the patient's nails with new ones during the fourth operation. Even though patient R was bleeding heavily and still had a fever, WBT still took her back to the hotel!
Then a group of people broke into her room in the middle of the night and demanded accommodation fees! If she didn't give it, WBT would snatch her lengthening tool and threaten to put her in jail for ten years in Turkey. WBT forcing the patient to commit suicide, R called a Turkish friend to help call the police. The police believed that W’s boss should not treat the patient in this way before the patient recovered.
The patient R left the hotel with the help of her friends the next day. Then W official publicly smeared her that she has threatened the travel agency with suicide ，to reduce her accommodation fee!
And after she returned to China, WBT once again threatened to hire a Chinese lawyer to sue her because she told the truth in the group!
 

This paragraph was sent by WBT to patient R! Patient R's precise thigh underwent four operations at W. After the patient complained about the fourth operation, W reluctantly replaced the nails with quality issues! Otherwise I'm sure she would have had a fifth surgery! Then WBT immediately reneged on the two-month accommodation compensation it had given Patient R, and instead asked her to continue paying the accommodation fee or introduce the patient to a travel agency to get compensation!

After R refused, W threatened her would go to jail in Turkey for ten years, so she chose to leave the hotel to complete the lengthening ! She had her lengthening done at another physical therapy center along with another patient who also thought WBT was bull ! When R returned to China, she revealed her horrific experience at W,in the WeChat group, then WBT once again threatened patient R with  ty accommodation fees and would sue her!

“Hello
As Medzonia Health Tourism Company, which has been a health tourism intermediary approved by the Turkish Ministry of Health for many years: On December 13, 2021, after the operation, you secretly left our hotel without informing us. We have statements of all your expenses, and relevant documentation regarding those expenses. Although our company provides a lot of conveniences, including personal expenses incurred by you; we require you to pay the accommodation, meals, transfers, etc. expenses indicated in our relevant documents within 10 days. If payment or response is not received within 10 days, you will be prosecuted in the District Court. In addition, the Chinese/Turkish Commercial Counselor will be requested to provide support in this regard to address our dissatisfaction. We do not want to submit this issue to the courts and consulates and make both parties suffer in this long process. Before court begins, we would like to contact you and discuss a payment plan that is suitable for you and resolve this matter well. We are waiting for your feedback..

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Miss.Makbuljana

The total debt balance is 32.049.31 yuan + 3.697 euros. Please reply as soon as possible, otherwise we will have to file a lawsuit with the lawyer we hired from China after 10 days.”