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[Coffeepotlover]

This forum is getting very rotten

Yes it is getting off topic a little. Just wanted to warn people stay away from WBT as it is a very poorly run and dishonest company.

[otaviognu]

Yes it is getting off topic a little. Just wanted to warn people stay away from WBT as it is a very poorly run and dishonest company.

I believe on WBT because these dude did two surgeries there, and he approves WBT, I spoke with him with no complaints about turkey clinics. So to me in this forum there is much financial interest involve with people who obtain a lot of money with this kind of expensive surgery, that is my guess, take a mind that all surgery has theirs risks, so even Paley can make someone cripple or dead.

[Among us]

I have meet that guy at the hotel nice guy impressive journey. I agree with you if you want to come to turkey for surgery use the doctor with WBT as I trust him 100% with my legs but I just wouldn't use the hotel service as currently is very poor but in saying that maybe in like 6 months could be good if the hotel and WBT puts in some investment things could get a lot better.

[slanderedbywbt]

Why are you choosing to share the videos concerning the female patient here, instead of presenting them to the court?  This approach is not correct. Such videos should be presented to a lawyer or prosecutor.

"In fact, forums are places where competitors criticize each other, and real patient reviews get mixed with fictitious ones, creating a risk of falling into the trap of manipulated information while trying to access accurate information. For this reason, as a principle, I prefer not to engage in discussions on forums. However, this time, I want to intervene because I feel a responsibility toward the company, the employees, and all our patients who return home with fulfilled dreams."

Things are unfolding just as I predicted, aren't they? Unidentified individuals, who may not even be patients, allegations unrelated to the company, and mutual finger-pointing, are all set in the intricate landscape of a forum where loyalties and affiliations remain ambiguous. It's quite a labyrinth, isn't it?

We, the British Empire, want to give our people a chance to mend their ways, but if you are dishonest and distort the truth, don't blame me for exposing your ugly face

[slanderedbywbt]

[slanderedbywbt]

[The Victims Of WannaBeTaller]

Stay away from the black intermediary Wanabetaller in Türkiye. It can only be said that Turkey is a place outside the law, and it has saved these Xinjiang people hiding in foreign countries time and time again. Let you help Turkey's unscrupulous bosses harm so many Chinese people to smear victims in the past three years, and you can continue to post Turkey's broken bones and heightened advertisements on major post bars to attract traffic! As long as the legal system can punish these bad guys, I'm too lazy to go online!

[slanderedbywbt]

Hello soyboy virgin, I don't feel the need to create an account to see someone's video. It's your job to make the evidence easily accessible if you want us to take you seriously.

I'm taller than you, more handsome than you, and get more women than you (which isn't hard, as you've never had sxx in your life). Keep flying the flag for your queens in the hope one will reward you with a crumb of pussy one day.

[Zhixiang Chen]

Boy, you only played my head and covered up 90% of my charisma, a man like me with a tall, handsome, big penis. Isn't it worth girls to seduce me? Let me tell you, I have such a gene Excellent man, the number of girls who have seduced me is more than the salt you have ever eaten...

[slanderedbywbt]

Hello, I am the quality control manager of the company. It is my responsibility to ensure that all services provided to patients, from transfers to accommodations, from physical therapy to medical dressing, are carried out according to the company's quality policy. Therefore, I will try to respond to each claim made by the patient in a detailed manner, without compromising honesty and transparency. In fact, forums are places where competitors criticize each other, and real patient reviews get mixed with fictitious ones, creating a risk of falling into the trap of manipulated information while trying to access accurate information. For this reason, as a principle, I prefer not to engage in discussions on forums. However, this time, I want to intervene because I feel a responsibility toward the company, the employees, and all our patients who return home with fulfilled dreams.


1-    The patient stated that the doctor’s professionalism is a positive aspect of the company. Yes, our doctor and hospital team are indeed very good at their jobs. However, we also expected him to mention how excellent and professional the physical therapy and dressing services, which are part of the hotel-like amenities for patients, are. If we speak based on the statement of the doctor, in which the patient stated that he was professional, "A successful limb lengthening surgery journey is only 30%, the remaining 70% depends on successful physical therapy, the patient's commitment to the therapy, and dressing services." From what I observed, despite the patient's complaints about the pool, food, price, and many other things, they did not have any complaints about the current health of their legs. No infection or any leg issues at all. This alone should be enough to show that the company's professionalism is not limited to just the doctor.

2-   I also have to agree with the patient's criticisms regarding the pool and gym facilities. The patient is right in this matter. However, there are some points that I cannot help but explain. Our company moved to an affiliate of the international brand Wyndham, a hotel, about two months ago to provide better service to our patients. During the relocation negotiations, the hotel was still making arrangements for the pool and gym, according to the information provided to us. We relied on this information and decided to move with the expectation that the pool and gym would be operational shortly. Unfortunately, due to various reasons, the hotel could not fulfill its commitment, and the pool and gym did not become operational during the two months after our move. (Based on the information given to me, the pool is currently operational and will be made accessible for disabled individuals.) The patient's accusation of deception by the company to deceive customers is either due to their malice or ignorance. Patients are not obliged to stay at the hotel, which is our company's business partner. Accommodation is just one of the options offered by the company and is not mandatory. After seeing the hotel, we refunded the accommodation packages to those who did not wish to stay there, and they stayed at their preferred homes or other hotels. This patient could have also chosen to cancel their accommodation package and stay at a hotel with a pool or even a jacuzzi. In fact, dozens of our patients stayed in other places during this two-month period, not at this hotel, and we continued to provide all the services to them with utmost care.

3-   The physiotherapy room is designed to accommodate the treatment services of four patients simultaneously, according to the standards set by doctors and physiotherapy specialists. Assuming our patients adhere to their physiotherapy appointments, it is presumed they will achieve the maximum benefit from each session. The excellent success rate in our patients' physiotherapy treatments demonstrates that this assumption is being met accordingly.

4-   The inadequacy of equipment has been a longstanding issue raised by patients. Equipment purchases are determined based on the recommendations of doctors and physical therapy specialists. Our company has empowered experts to identify and purchase all kinds of equipment that will help patients continue their physical therapies in an optimal manner. Our specialists believe that many fancy devices are merely part of a commercial marketing tactic, intended to impress but lacking substantial benefits. When I conveyed the complaints about equipment diversity to our physical therapy specialists, they responded as follows: "Many devices used by rival companies are actually just for show. If they had any real benefits, we would demand their purchase based on the authority granted to us. This way, our work would be easier, and we wouldn't have to exert so much effort. Success in physical therapy depends on a diligent physical therapist and the patient's personal effort in harmony with the physical therapy specialist.

5-   When it comes to the devices that are reported as faulty, despite warnings, some of our patients are taking the functioning massage guns to their rooms. When we notice this, we order new ones, just like we did the other day. A new bicycle has also been purchased, but it is not being effectively used either due to improper usage or tampering with the pedals and seat pins. As soon as the malfunction is noticed, we intervene, and if it cannot be repaired, we immediately order a replacement. In the physical therapy room, we have four beds - three fixed and one with a movable system. One of the beds with a movable system malfunctioned, and due to the delay in obtaining the spare part and repairing it, it was temporarily used as a fixed bed. (According to the last information I received, all that remains is to install the supplied spare part in the system.) In essence, whether a bed has a movable or fixed system has little significance on the success of the applied physical therapy, and since the patient mentioned a problem with the bed and not with their legs, it seems that he has had a successful physical therapy process.

As for the ventilation of the physical therapy room, it is true that there was a problem caused by the central air conditioning system in the hotel's property, specifically in the ventilation ducts providing air to some rooms. Unfortunately, this has caused discomfort for the patients in hot weather. We have consistently made efforts with the hotel to resolve this issue, as it falls under the hotel's ownership and responsibility. Additionally, we purchased a portable air conditioner to try to alleviate the problem to some extent. (Based on the latest information I have, the ventilation issue in the physical therapy room has been resolved six days ago.)

6-   While the direct criticisms related to the hotel should perhaps be addressed by the hotel itself, I still want to share my observations from the times I visited the hotel. A- As I mentioned before, the hotel operates as a subsidiary of the world-renowned international hotel chain, Wyndham, and it is relatively new in service. I must admit that being a newly established hotel comes with some challenges. However, among these issues, there is no problem with the hotel staff being rude and disrespectful. Undoubtedly, there are dozens of staff members in this hotel, and it's possible that a few of them might be rude or impolite. But the same issue applies to our patients as well. While some patients are praised for their politeness by the hotel staff, there are also patients who are claimed to be rude and disrespectful by the hotel staff. This patient is probably one of them 😊 I guess expecting people from different nationalities to exhibit high standards of conduct and ethics in a world where even people of the same nation fight with each other would be unrealistic. B- The quality of the hotel's food can certainly be debatable, but I cannot give an opinion on that since I haven't had lunch or dinner there yet. However, I was quite surprised by the patient's claims of finding worms in the breakfast. Because I have had breakfast at this hotel at least 15 times and have never encountered such a situation. To be honest, the variety and quality were satisfying from my perspective. Not only me but also six of the company's employees who have been having their breakfast here from the beginning haven't mentioned anything about their breakfast being spiced up by worms. I wish the patient had taken photos of these adorable worms visiting them during breakfast and informed us immediately, so we wouldn't have to learn about this worm story from a forum now. C- Actually, it shouldn't be a problem for the patient even if the evening menu of the hotel is just 1% of the total options available. There are hundreds of establishments around the hotel that provide services and accept online orders, and this option is one of the reasons why we chose this hotel. Well, the patient could have used this option to order the desired food, and we have a staff member entirely dedicated to handling these orders from the patients. D- (Although it is almost finished,) it would be harsh to criticize the patient's claim of being confined to their room for months due to ongoing renovations in the hotel's pool, terrace, and gym. However, the situation is not as dire as the patient suggests. The hotel has a lobby and an integrated common sitting area. Furthermore, the hotel rooms have a one-bedroom suite concept, which offers a more spacious arrangement compared to standard hotel rooms. As previously mentioned, patients are not obligated to stay in this hotel, and we already provide services to many patients who choose to stay elsewhere according to their preferences. Patients are not obliged to consider either the patient's complaints or my defense when deciding whether to stay in this hotel. After personally seeing the hotel, they can make their decision freely. E- We didn't know that we had fascist staff who spoke Turkish with the patient even though he or she didn't speak Turkish 😊 If the patient shares the names of these staff members with us and if we find any intention behind their behavior, I guarantee that we will terminate their employment immediately. Currently, our staff has an accepted level of English to provide the services promised by the company in the contracts, in case the patient doesn't wish to engage in philosophical discussions about Jean-Jacques Rousseau or Hegel with them.


Until now, I have preferred to respond to the patient's criticisms by occasionally acknowledging their perspective and sometimes using humor. However, in this final point, there will be no humor, and I will not agree with the patient in any way. This is because, considering that the patient has neither directly nor indirectly suffered any harm in the incident they mentioned and is not one of the parties involved, I believe their intention is not to offer constructive criticism but rather to maliciously discredit the company and trap forum members into biases against the company.

7-   All the individuals involved in the harassment and injury incident mentioned by the patient are our patients. As a company, we strictly adhere to the principle of impartiality in resolving any issues that may arise between patients, with the sole priority of calming the situation and preventing further harm to our patients. In this particular case, we have advised each party involved to seek their rights through independent legal channels by offering to provide them with lawyers. This is because each patient has denied the other party's claims and put forth their own. Regarding the injury incident, the patient who suffered a leg injury claimed that he was attacked without reason, while the other patient who caused the injury claimed that he was forced to defend himself in response to an attack against him. As for the aspect of harassment, the female patient who experienced it accused the other patient of the act, while the accused patient denied such actions. In such a complex situation, it was not up to us but the judicial authorities to determine who was right and who was wrong. Therefore, we encouraged the parties to seek their rights through legal means, and during this process, our company did its best. The party accused of harassment and assault is seeking his rights through legal means and hired a Turkish lawyer. The legal process is currently ongoing, and it would be inappropriate for me to comment further, as sharing more information could violate legal confidentiality. As I am not in a legal position to provide an opinion, I refrain from making any comments. Currently, all the patients involved in the incident have completed their processes and returned to their countries. If the serious events mentioned by the patient on the forum, such as near-death experiences or assault, had actually occurred, Turkish Criminal Law would have imposed precautionary measures and the accused person would not have been allowed to leave the country. Hence, the claim that 'the company disregarded the incident and provided no support to the patients involved, solely focusing on money and prestige' is highly unethical and baseless. Moreover, even if such an incident had occurred, why would our female patient, who claims to have been harassed, refuse to accept the offer of being relocated to another hotel for her safety and insist on staying at our company's hotel on her own will? This alone should be enough to demonstrate her trust in our company. Furthermore, why would the same patient convey her request to stay at the same hotel for her second surgery? Despite our insistence on recommending other hotels with concealed addresses for patients involved in the incident due to various security concerns, why did this female patient insist on staying at our hotel? And why did she want to complete her second surgery process here?


If we were thinking about money, would we recommend this patient we are worried about to have her second surgery done somewhere else? We kindly recommended her to do the second surgery somewhere else.

The long and the short, it is unacceptable persecution for a patient who was not involved in the incident and did not suffer any harm from the events, to adopt an unfair and unjust attitude that exceeds the boundaries of constructive criticism towards our company based on an event he is not familiar with.


For example, if this patient, who displays this unacceptable behavior, were friends with another patient of ours and later his friend whom he befriended stole his money and caused harm, would our company be held responsible for his/her wrongdoing? If we did not encourage or assist that patient in stealing the other patient's money and causing harm, which is already unthinkable, can the company be held accountable for its actions? We embrace all of our patients, regardless of their religion, language, race, or color, and strive to do our best to help them achieve their dreams. We do not possess a miraculous ability to determine who is a saint and who is a devil. If we did, we would identify and never allow such ungrateful and malicious patients to approach our company, despite all our dedication, efforts, closeness, and the successful treatment we have provided.

We have confidence in ourselves. We do not shy away from our mistakes and deficiencies but confront them and try to overcome them. We will continue to strive to do better and achieve the best.

Wannabetaller : ”the female patient who experienced it accused the other patient of the act, while the accused patient denied such actions.’’ He denied ? hahaha? then who’s this on the video ?hahahahahaha remember your company is wannabetaller not wannabeliar

[WannaBeTaller-Official]

So I wasn't going to say anything, but this is horrible. I saw the company communicate about what happened with this patient, because she showed me the texts. Whether the company is at fault is irrelevant, and I refuse to comment on that, but she was assaulted TWICE by two different people and multiple of us were either there to confirm it happened or saw the aftermath of the texts. One of these people also assaulted me - In my case the company directly intervened and dealt with the situation, and the employee was fired. This doesn't change the fact it disgusted me and left me feeling unsafe. I appreciate them firing him and taking action, but this is a traumatic event that is entirely separate from everything else you are going through recovery wise. Some of you need to stop gaslighting victims.

Dear patient
Even though I can't meet you in person, I know you. From the beginning to the end, I followed your treatment process and the developments related to the other event very closely through your consultant. Let me clear up a few minor misunderstandings.
First of all, the personnel we broke off has never been officially an employee of the company. We just wanted our patients to meet their needs until the new staff member starts to fill the gap left by the sudden resignation of our female staff member. While doing this, our aim was to prevent disruptions in the services of patients.
Secondly, as I said before, we received the information that he harassed you from your consultant just before we communicated the decision that we have cut off all relations with him. We had tangible and professional evidence of his faults that led us to break with him, and he already could not deny it. We also asked him about the "allegation" that he abused you, but he entirely denied it. At that time, we did not have any "legal" and "professional" data to substantiate this "allegation". There was not enough time to verify this claim and take action on this claim in accordance with labor law.So we couldn't make that an official reason to break up with him. Otherwise, he could even sue both us and the intermediary company he was affiliated with, for illegal dismissal. Our characterization of your harassment claim as "a claim"  is entirely related to the official position of the company and the law. The fact that we describe this as a legal and professional claim does not of course mean that you are lying. We never thought you were lying, but it wouldn't have gained you or us anything if we made a move against the employee on a claim that could not be officially verified. Your and our goal was to keep it away from us, and we did so in full compliance with the law. I hope you understand what I mean on this sensitive subject. Thank you.

[WannaBeTaller-Official]

What I find curious about wannabetaller, livelifetaller, and the like is that if the criticisms against them on the forum are false, why don't they take legal action against the posters or LL Forum?
Are the posts by LL Forum fully anonymized, making it impossible to legally penalize them?

The answer to your last question sheds light on the situation. Legally penalizing an anonymous forum is nearly impossible. As a company, we prefer such forums to continue, as untold and unmanipulated experiences hold value and can guide many people. However, we find ourselves in a challenging position due to a smear campaign against our company, where we are unjustly held responsible for issues between patients. The person behind this campaign is not even a patient with health problems and is about to complete their process successfully. It is unacceptable for someone outside the events to defame our company in this manner.

I personally witnessed and actively managed the process to ensure the best possible outcome, working tirelessly for the peace and trust of our patients. I must admit that the actions of those trying to defame the company over the harassment incident are far more distasteful than what "Victims on Turkey" did. While I understand the difficulties "Victims on Turkey" went through, we had close contact with them throughout, and the infection cases in the videos they shared did not occur under our supervision. Infections do not develop suddenly, and if they were under our responsibility, we would have noticed and intervened before it reached such a severe point, as our nurses perform regular bandage changes and dressings every two or three days.

In essence, forums like this can be instructive when based on impartial observations from "real" and "impartial" patients. However, a significant problem arises as it becomes exceedingly difficult to distinguish between genuine patients and those with malicious intent. To address this issue, our advice to everyone here is to visit our company and see for themselves before making any judgments.

[WannaBeTaller-Official]

I am going to turkey to undergo to my surgery, I do not care about the risks, I'm already dead with my currently height.

You don't have to die to get taller. Just carefully follow the guidelines of professionals (doctors, physiotherapists, and nurses) throughout the process. That's it! We recommend that you leave aside what is written for or against us in this or any forum and visit us. Then you can decide to do what.
Let me warn you from the start. As some of our patients have complained, we still have a gym problem, and sometimes lost Wi-Fi connection. Regards, WBT.

[slanderedbywbt]

Dear patient
Even though I can't meet you in person, I know you. From the beginning to the end, I followed your treatment process and the developments related to the other event very closely through your consultant. Let me clear up a few minor misunderstandings.
First of all, the personnel we broke off has never been officially an employee of the company. We just wanted our patients to meet their needs until the new staff member starts to fill the gap left by the sudden resignation of our female staff member. While doing this, our aim was to prevent disruptions in the services of patients.
Secondly, as I said before, we received the information that he harassed you from your consultant just before we communicated the decision that we have cut off all relations with him. We had tangible and professional evidence of his faults that led us to break with him, and he already could not deny it. We also asked him about the "allegation" that he abused you, but he entirely denied it. At that time, we did not have any "legal" and "professional" data to substantiate this "allegation". There was not enough time to verify this claim and take action on this claim in accordance with labor law.So we couldn't make that an official reason to break up with him. Otherwise, he could even sue both us and the intermediary company he was affiliated with, for illegal dismissal. Our characterization of your harassment claim as "a claim"  is entirely related to the official position of the company and the law. The fact that we describe this as a legal and professional claim does not of course mean that you are lying. We never thought you were lying, but it wouldn't have gained you or us anything if we made a move against the employee on a claim that could not be officially verified. Your and our goal was to keep it away from us, and we did so in full compliance with the law. I hope you understand what I mean on this sensitive subject. Thank you.

There is an idiot who asks a sexual person in the way of questioning, will he admit it? We need justice partners like us to help rapists admit their crimes. In Turkey, the police and the law are useless!!!


Wannabetaller : ”the female patient who experienced it accused the other patient of the act, while the accused patient denied such actions.’’ He denied ? hahaha? then who’s this on the video ?hahahahahaha remember your company is wannabetaller not wannabeliar

[Zhixiang Chen]

There is an idiot who asks a sxxual person in the way of questioning, will he admit it? We need justice partners like us to help rapists admit their crimes. In Turkey, the police and the law are useless!!!


Wannabetaller : ”the female patient who experienced it accused the other patient of the act, while the accused patient denied such actions.’’ He denied ? hahaha? then who’s this on the video ?hahahahahaha remember your company is wannabetaller not wannabeliar

fk you, Again, please show me all my good qualities.

[Bagga]

fk you, Again, please show me all my good qualities.

Is he LL patient or worker there?
He raped the female patient? not arrested at all???

[WannaBeTaller-Official]

Wannabetaller : ”the female patient who experienced it accused the other patient of the act, while the accused patient denied such actions.’’ He denied ? hahaha? then who’s this on the video ?hahahahahaha remember your company is wannabetaller not wannabeliar

I could answer better if I knew which of the two patients involved—G or S—was. But it doesn't really matter who you are here. Why didn't you show this video while the parties testified at the police station? Even submitting this video to a forum and not to legal authorities shows your true intentions. Laws in Turkey are very strict, especially when it comes to women's rights and harassment cases, and judges in the courts are strictly affirmative in favor of women. In fact, this positive discrimination sometimes even causes them to make wrong decisions against men. This will be my final answer, taking it seriously. I leave the decision to the readers of this forum.

[slanderedbywbt]

I could answer better if I knew which of the two patients involved—G or S—was. But it doesn't really matter who you are here. Why didn't you show this video while the parties testified at the police station? Even submitting this video to a forum and not to legal authorities shows your true intentions. Laws in Turkey are very strict, especially when it comes to women's rights and harassment cases, and judges in the courts are strictly affirmative in favor of women. In fact, this positive discrimination sometimes even causes them to make wrong decisions against men. This will be my final answer, taking it seriously. I leave the decision to the readers of this forum.

Don't teach me how  to do, ok?  Whether we Sue him or not is none of your business.   You said that the rapist didn't admit it, that the victim was guilty, and the video is here, you Professionally lies.  You has been professionally helping rapists get away with their crimes. After being exposed by me, you are still full of sophistry, changing the subject. What we're questioning is that you said the rapist denied,the fact that he admitted , just directly answer, don't change the subject and try to gaslight the victim.

[slanderedbywbt]

Is he LL patient or worker there?
He raped the female patient? not arrested at all???

NOT RAPE, it is attempted rape and indecent assault!!!

[Rbkfh7]

Looks very likely this was all said under duress which makes it worthless of course. A defence lawyer would have a field day:

1) Let's first have someone who speaks Chinese verify your subtitles are true and accurate.
2) This guy is shirtless, perhaps nked, and is sat on the floor while at least 2 people are filming him, asking leading questions. Not exactly hard to imagine he's been threatened or feels fear in this scenario. Especially by a group calling themselves 'justice partners' (another term used could be 'vigilantes'). Why wasn't this interview conducted in a public place like the hotel lobby, or even better, down at the police station if he was ready to freely confess? Why would he just tell you all this of his own free will - keep in mind, a confession under duress isn't evidence of anything.

Those are questions any competent defence lawyer will be asking and it's probably why you haven't rushed down to the police station with your video - it'd be thrown out of court. Just like I'm about to do here, absent any proof that this interview was 1) accurately subtitled, and 2) Not done under threats of violence, blackmail etc.

[Bagga]

Looks very likely this was all said under duress which makes it worthless of course. A defence lawyer would have a field day:

1) Let's first have someone who speaks Chinese verify your subtitles are true and accurate.
2) This guy is shirtless, perhaps nked, and is sat on the floor while at least 2 people are filming him, asking leading questions. Not exactly hard to imagine he's been threatened or feels fear in this scenario. Especially by a group calling themselves 'justice partners' (another term used could be 'vigilantes'). Why wasn't this interview conducted in a public place like the hotel lobby, or even better, down at the police station if he was ready to freely confess? Why would he just tell you all this of his own free will - keep in mind, a confession under duress isn't evidence of anything.

Those are questions any competent defence lawyer will be asking and it's probably why you haven't rushed down to the police station with your video - it'd be thrown out of court. Just like I'm about to do here, absent any proof that this interview was 1) accurately subtitled, and 2) Not done under threats of violence, blackmail etc.

Yes..it was strange that he was nked to give confession....
Was he a LL patient too? What happened to him now?

[slanderedbywbt]

Looks very likely this was all said under duress which makes it worthless of course. A defence lawyer would have a field day:

1) Let's first have someone who speaks Chinese verify your subtitles are true and accurate.
2) This guy is shirtless, perhaps nked, and is sat on the floor while at least 2 people are filming him, asking leading questions. Not exactly hard to imagine he's been threatened or feels fear in this scenario. Especially by a group calling themselves 'justice partners' (another term used could be 'vigilantes'). Why wasn't this interview conducted in a public place like the hotel lobby, or even better, down at the police station if he was ready to freely confess? Why would he just tell you all this of his own free will - keep in mind, a confession under duress isn't evidence of anything.

Those are questions any competent defence lawyer will be asking and it's probably why you haven't rushed down to the police station with your video - it'd be thrown out of court. Just like I'm about to do here, absent any proof that this interview was 1) accurately subtitled, and 2) Not done under threats of violence, blackmail etc.

You, as the rapist, invited us into your room and said to us you like to be nked in your room and the video is here and it doesn't matter to me your lawyer trust it or not,  it is what it is. I'm going to post these videos on the world's social media platforms for everyone to judge, not your defense lawyer. Why wasn't this interview conducted in a public place like the hotel lobby, or  at the police station. As a rapist yourself, don't you know why?

[Zhixiang Chen]

Yes..it was strange that he was nked to give confession....
Was he a LL patient too? What happened to him now?

My good dude, thank you for defending me. I am fine now, every day a new girl seduces me, after all I have good genes, tall body, handsome face, and most of all I have a big penis

[Zhixiang Chen]

You, as the rapist, invited us into your room and said to us you like to be nked in your room and the video is here and it doesn't matter to me your lawyer trust it or not,  it is what it is. I'm going to post these videos on the world's social media platforms for everyone to judge, not your defense lawyer. Why wasn't this interview conducted in a public place like the hotel lobby, or  at the police station. As a rapist yourself, don't you know why?

You need to hurry up, I can't wait for the world to realize how good I am. Promote my handsome face, tall figure, and excellent genes to all over the world, so that more girls will come to seduce me.

[Zhixiang Chen]

Yes..it was strange that he was nked to give confession....
Was he a LL patient too? What happened to him now?

I am fine now, every day a new girl seduces me, after all I have good genes, tall body, handsome face, and most of all I have a big penis

[Zhixiang Chen]

Looks very likely this was all said under duress which makes it worthless of course. A defence lawyer would have a field day:

1) Let's first have someone who speaks Chinese verify your subtitles are true and accurate.
2) This guy is shirtless, perhaps nked, and is sat on the floor while at least 2 people are filming him, asking leading questions. Not exactly hard to imagine he's been threatened or feels fear in this scenario. Especially by a group calling themselves 'justice partners' (another term used could be 'vigilantes'). Why wasn't this interview conducted in a public place like the hotel lobby, or even better, down at the police station if he was ready to freely confess? Why would he just tell you all this of his own free will - keep in mind, a confession under duress isn't evidence of anything.

Those are questions any competent defence lawyer will be asking and it's probably why you haven't rushed down to the police station with your video - it'd be thrown out of court. Just like I'm about to do here, absent any proof that this interview was 1) accurately subtitled, and 2) Not done under threats of violence, blackmail etc.

Except for her, there are all males here, she does not seduce other handsome guy, she only seduces and wrongs me,do you know why?because I am the most attractive here. My cutie tummy like pregnant, b cup  boobs and 3cm dck, can prove my charm.Doubtlessly,any girl will be fascinated by me.

[Tallestguys]

During this period of time, there were only two female patients, you and the girl, so the female patients all claimed to have been harassed during the company's stay, and the female employee Rabia also claimed to have been harassed by the male patient. How could it be such a coincidence  matter.  That girl at least has a video to testify, but you and Rabia have not provided any evidence.  Let’s deduce it logically, maybe the girl’s accusation was true, and then you and rabia took the opportunity to lie and accuse yourself of being harassed, so as to make potential patient to think that all girls in wbt will be sexually harassed, how much did livelifetaller pay you?

[Tallestguys]

No - I only saw the correspondence between her and the company, and for me that was enough to draw a conclusion, along with Seven's confession being posted right here in this thread. I'm not sure what more you'd like. Nothing is alleged, it's all plain for everyone to see here. This is an 18 year old girl whose parents have no idea she's even in Turkey doing this surgery, and you're suggesting she just go to Turkish court to pursue someone while in the middle of a major operation - how laughable is this? I would love for the company to post the entire thread of their responses to and from her, because I read through them. I personally don't blame the company for this happening to her (I wasn't even at the hotel at this time) but to deny it even happened? You disgust me.

 There were two separate instances in her case. I was personally involved in the second and was there myself to experience it first hand (he assaulted both her and me). This person abused his authority, and I was led to believe he was punished for it. I'm disheartened to hear from the Quality Control Manager it was only a coincidence he was let go the day the complaints were levied, because I was actually going to give the company props for defending the two of us from him and keeping him out of the hotel. You're either a misogynist, brain dead or both.

During this period of time, there were only two female patients, you and the girl, so the female patients all claimed to have been harassed during the company's stay, and the female employee Rabia also claimed to have been harassed by the male patient. How could it be such a coincidence  matter.  That girl at least has a video to testify, but you and Rabia have not provided any evidence.  Let’s deduce it logically, maybe the girl’s accusation was true, and then you took the opportunity to lie and accuse yourself of being harassed, so as to create the goal that all girls in wbt will be sxxually harassed, how much did livelifetaller pay you? If Rabia is really sexually harassed in the workplace, she can sue. Turkey has perfect laws to protect local women in the workplace. She is not a foreigner, so she should be very clear about the laws of her own country. If she does not sue, it proves that she has no evidence to prove  She knows how to use her status as a weak person to manipulate public opinion.  You so-called envoys of justice are actually being treated as fools, and many former wbt staff have also jumped to livelifetaller

[The Victims Of WannaBeTaller]

I originally planned to go back to Turkey after treating chronic osteomyelitis in China to sue the black intermediary Wannabetaller for delaying and mishandling intramedullary infection, which led me to prevent the recurrence of chronic osteomyelitis for the rest of my life! When I knew that the statute of limitations for a lawsuit in Turkey is ten years, and I saw a news that "a man in Turkey spent ten years in a lawsuit to prove that he was not dead", is it so difficult for local Turkish people to defend their rights? Litigation efficiency is so low! Then I went to Turkey as a Chinese to sue the Turks, is there any hope? N years after the execution link, right? Is there any hope for a country like Türkiye? No wonder black intermediaries have no fear! The domestic police and doctors said that what I did was a medical malpractice, and the lawyer also said that it would be easier if the intermediary agency and doctors were in China. But in China, I will definitely not get chronic osteomyelitis, because every doctor knows that debridement is necessary!

[slanderedbywbt]

Because WBT is a good company, all employees want to leave???
Wrong, because WBT is a cesspit, even its own employees can't stand it anymore, for the sake of their own conscience, they don't want to continue working for these robbers!!

[WannaBeTaller-Official]

I originally planned to go back to Turkey after treating chronic osteomyelitis in China to sue the black intermediary Wannabetaller for delaying and mishandling intramedullary infection, which led me to prevent the recurrence of chronic osteomyelitis for the rest of my life! When I knew that the statute of limitations for a lawsuit in Turkey is ten years, and I saw a news that "a man in Turkey spent ten years in a lawsuit to prove that he was not dead", is it so difficult for local Turkish people to defend their rights? Litigation efficiency is so low! Then I went to Turkey as a Chinese to sue the Turks, is there any hope? N years after the execution link, right? Is there any hope for a country like Türkiye? No wonder black intermediaries have no fear! The domestic police and doctors said that what I did was a medical malpractice, and the lawyer also said that it would be easier if the intermediary agency and doctors were in China. But in China, I will definitely not get chronic osteomyelitis, because every doctor knows that debridement is necessary!

This answer is for all posts you published in this forum

I think you opened another post where you made some claims similar to yours here. We had given a general answer to your claims there.
Frankly, I don't want to light the fuse of a new but useless discussion with you here. Whatever we discuss here, we will not be able to change anything. But if you had paid attention to what we -me(as a quality control)- stated to you in the past, maybe we wouldn't have talked about any of your problems. As far as I observed, you had three basic errors along your process:
1- To keep lengthening secretly when doctor and physiotherapists told you to stop lengthening due to some concerns about your leg health. Please remember that I visited you in your room as soon as this information forwarded to me and I told you that the experts stated that you should stop lengthening for the sake of your legs health. Your gain already wasn't bad at all. I think it was 6.5 or 7 cm. Soon after I came back to you and warned you about that again. You told me that you stopped the extension. But on your next X-ray, it turned out you didn't stop the extension. I came again and warned you once again, and even instructed that the extension key would be taken from you in case you would not pay attention to what I said to you again.
2- After continuing the extension dangerously contrary to all warnings, you pressured us too much for removal surgery as soon as possible. Whereas the doctors and therapists recommended a removal surgery after a week or two after your body was better adapted to the lengthening you did secretly. When we accepted your request for urgent removal surgery due to your intensive pressure, we could not perform the surgery right away because there was the intensity in the operating rooms in the hospital due to some planned surgeries.( I even told you that I was surprised when you said that the delay in the removal surgery was due to the intensity in the operating room rather than the doctor's advice. Then I stated to you that I did not know that this was the real reason, and I would have started the interventions more quickly if I had known.) That's why we couldn't make a suitable removal surgery program for you, so we asked you to be a little more patient. Even,you remember, I kindly asked you that personally.  Consequently, when you kept insisting on that, we spent a lot of time trying to make this arrangement with our teammates throughout the night.
3- Your last mistake was that you preferred to share private information, including some private photos, related to some of our staff members, with insults on many Chinese platforms, instead of helping us to keep in touch with us and follow up on your situation while staying outside, although there was no problem that would require you to do that. On top of that, when your osteomyelitis developed, you wasted a lot of time instead of informing it at the first stage. This made it difficult for us to take effective measures.
If I wasn't one of the personnel who was actively in contact with you in all the processes, I could even blame the company based on what you wrote. But you also know that we have experienced all of the above. In your other post, "Don't think that I don't love my legs so much, don't think you are medical experts, if you are I will not have chronic osteomyelitis!" you said. I think if you really loved your legs, you wouldn't have ignored the many warnings about the need to stop extension and not continue to do that in secret. If you really loved your legs, you would have listened to advice not to rush removal surgery. If you really loved your legs, you might be better able to take care of your legs rather than expose them on the platforms after the surgery to remove the staff who did nothing but try to do the best for your health. What you're going through is really tough stuff. I understand you. I even understand that you blame us. In my personal opinion, it would be both pointless and non-emphatic to condemn you for accusing us. What you did deserves more respect than if one of our patients just wanted to defame the company on an issue he has never been a victim of by using invalid,unethical and wrong claims.You have suffered greatly and you hold us accountable. As I said, if it were not for the conversations and correspondence we had with you, even I would have given you the right. But it is not fair for you to completely blame us for the consequences of your own negligence. Maybe the company has experienced some quality problems in services such as accommodation or transfer. However, the company has never compromised on quality standards in doctor, physical therapy and nurse services. We did not hesitate to part ways with anyone ( physiotherapist, consultant, caretaker, field staff, office staff, nurse, doctor, intermediary companies or else) who violated the quality policies that we have secured with contracts. Of course, not compromising these quality standards does not mean that no problems will arise. No matter how good you are, when you perform any operation anywhere in the world, there are many possibilities, including death. We don't have a magic wand to reset these possibilities. But the company informs patients frankly about possible complications/risks. Our contracts provide very detailed, concrete, and honest information. We tell patients that if they follow the instructions of the specialists (doctor, physiotherapist, nurse), they can stay away from possible complications in the best manner.  Unfortunately, you have a lot of personal negligence in your private complications. I know this because I actively participated in your process and I personally gave you some warnings. I don't know, maybe the problem was due to the wrong procedure by the experts, as you claim. However, at this point, neither I nor the company can discuss a medical/technical issue with a doctor and must be limited to the doctor's information. At this stage, oddsmans/experts could have made the best decision in a legal case, and you did not resort to this. (Interestingly, while I was preparing my answer, you wrote that you were considering returning to Turkey to sue, but you gave up on this due to the weakness of the justice system in Turkey. You also claimed that your local police and your doctor were talking about medical negligence. It's normal for the local police and your doctor to mention medical negligence. Because you told them your story and they were horrified to think how a doctor didn't notice and intervene until the leg became like that. Therefore, in such cases, a decision should not be reached without hearing both parties. However, where there are two opposing views, we have to rely on the decision of an independent authority, namely the courts. The slow functioning of the justice system is a problem for all of us, I accept that too. But as I said, an impartial and independent council like a court needs to make a decision on behalf of both sides. Also, these types of cases have high-compensation cases. So if an international lawyer sees a light in your story, they will be eager to bring the case to the court.)