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[marcobao]

Hello all, greetings.
I'm new to the forum and this is my first post. The title basically says it all: I am a 23 year old male who is 5'1" and would really like the opportunity to do the surgery.
I've felt so depressed and insecure about my height since I was a teenager, and this has really affected my life negatively. For instance I'm not very socially confident and have never been in a relationship just to name a few. 5'1" is literally a kid's height, or almost a dwarf, so it's not like I'm just being timid or hate myself. I'm in a third world country with average male height of about 170 cm, so it still makes me always the smallest amongst other guys. I always ask why me and break down completely sometimes when I just think about this.

Ever since I found out about the surgery I've been interested and hoping one day I just might be able to make the kind of money required for cheaper places like Turkey, being from a third world country myself. Even if I don't get to reach a descent height in the end, it will atleast help me stop being the petite guy with a beard.
 I joined this forum because I needed a place I can let out my emotions and people understand (more or less like a shoulder to cry on), as it has been consuming me deep inside and those around me only tend to make it worse.

I will welcome any replies with much appreciation,
Regards

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

Hello all, greetings.
I'm new to the forum and this is my first post. The title basically says it all: I am a 23 year old male who is 5'1" and would really like the opportunity to do the surgery.
I've felt so depressed and insecure about my height since I was a teenager, and this has really affected my life negatively. For instance I'm not very socially confident and have never been in a relationship just to name a few. 5'1" is literally a kid's height, or almost a dwarf, so it's not like I'm just being timid or hate myself. I'm in a third world country with average male height of about 170 cm, so it still makes me always the smallest amongst other guys. I always ask why me and break down completely sometimes when I just think about this.

Ever since I found out about the surgery I've been interested and hoping one day I just might be able to make the kind of money required for cheaper places like Turkey, being from a third world country myself. Even if I don't get to reach a descent height in the end, it will atleast help me stop being the petite guy with a beard.
 I joined this forum because I needed a place I can let out my emotions and people understand (more or less like a shoulder to cry on), as it has been consuming me deep inside and those around me only tend to make it worse.

I will welcome any replies with much appreciation,
Regards

Well tbh you'd better join r/short to vent your frustrations since this forum is a medical forum. Not saying this post will be deleted though.

What you are experiencing is extremely reminiscent of what I was and am experiencing. I was suicidal when I was 15 y.o partly because of my height and tried suicides for six times, all of which failed unfortunately and fortunately. I was only 159cm back then and luckily I made it to 162cm ultimately(well evening height. I usually report myself as 165cm). Can't really imagine if I did not grow over 160cm what would my life be. Well now I am thinking about my height nearly every minute when i am awake and only when I am sleeping I will be 'redeemed'. So as you can see I seriously need this surgery.

I am also 23 y.o this year, just graduated from my uni. I am recently interested in reading illuminous experts' classic works, like Newton's, Einstein's ones, something like that. When I am reading them, I will be feeling ashamed of my uneminence and being educated a lot by them at the same time lol. I also found out I was very apt for being a scholar or even professor, so I changed my mind and am planning to be one instead of a programmer. I really can't do programming because I am totally uninterested. I am most interested in Science and least interested in Engineering.


The reason why I am saying this is that, I gotta move to the U.S.A for my career, and get this surgery done by the way next year, because what I will be majoring in obliges me to move there since China has not even been developping this major yet. I want to move to San Diego or someplace in California since I love there most lol.

I come from China and yeah China is the most heightism country. With a short height as a man your life is really hard mode.

[Omar]

I don't understand why China is very hard on little men? Here in France the small Chinese are treated with respect or at least like a normal person while the size of the men is higher

[DanishViking]

Im 165 cm ish and suffer as well. But have barely meet any height discrimination, since I have high confidence is very out going. This difinitly matters more than height, but of course it still plays a role.

[EndGame]

Don't despair. You can get close to average height 170 in your country and you're very young so you have time. Accept it will take many years to achieve your goals and start working towards them. Don't go cheap to lesser doctors and risk getting butchered. Get side hustle, rice and beans, save and invest. You can do quad lengthening, perhaps separated by a few years. There are a few great less expensive doctors like Dr.A in Baltimore and Dr. G in Canada and a few others. You can choose to save yourself. It won't be easy...  Good luck.

[marcobao]

Well tbh you'd better join r/short to vent your frustrations since this forum is a medical forum. Not saying this post will be deleted though.

What you are experiencing is extremely reminiscent of what I was and am experiencing. I was suicidal when I was 15 y.o partly because of my height and tried suicides for six times, all of which failed unfortunately and fortunately. I was only 159cm back then and luckily I made it to 162cm ultimately(well evening height. I usually report myself as 165cm). Can't really imagine if I did not grow over 160cm what would my life be. Well now I am thinking about my height nearly every minute when i am awake and only when I am sleeping I will be 'redeemed'. So as you can see I seriously need this surgery.

I am also 23 y.o this year, just graduated from my uni. I am recently interested in reading illuminous experts' classic works, like Newton's, Einstein's ones, something like that. When I am reading them, I will be feeling ashamed of my uneminence and being educated a lot by them at the same time lol. I also found out I was very apt for being a scholar or even professor, so I changed my mind and am planning to be one instead of a programmer. I really can't do programming because I am totally uninterested. I am most interested in Science and least interested in Engineering.


The reason why I am saying this is that, I gotta move to the U.S.A for my career, and get this surgery done by the way next year, because what I will be majoring in obliges me to move there since China has not even been developping this major yet. I want to move to San Diego or someplace in California since I love there most lol.

I come from China and yeah China is the most heightism country. With a short height as a man your life is really hard mode.

Thanks for your reply. Sorry if my post came across like I'm only crying.. but I am really interested in this surgery and just wanted to explain my situation to others who are too. I can also learn much and be motivated from those who have done it already here.

We are quite similar in our lives I see. I also graduated from undergraduate December '22 last year, and was doing a substitute degree since what I want to study is not in the country. My brother (He's like 5'11 btw) started telling me about applying to come join him in Canada, and I myself would like the US, but when I think about my height and it makes me so reluctant to want to try. The thought of going to a place where the average height is even higher, and will cause me to start getting "new" kind of stares is scary to me. I don't want to go somewhere to chase my dreams and instead end up being more depressed.. It's not so different now but atleast people around are already used to seeing me this way from when I was young.

I see this surgery like my key to confidence. If I can just succeed to get it done I will be very happy and can finally start pursuing my dreams without any insecurities.

[marcobao]

Don't despair. You can get close to average height 170 in your country and you're very young so you have time. Accept it will take many years to achieve your goals and start working towards them. Don't go cheap to lesser doctors and risk getting butchered. Get side hustle, rice and beans, save and invest. You can do quad lengthening, perhaps separated by a few years. There are a few great less expensive doctors like Dr.A in Baltimore and Dr. G in Canada and a few others. You can choose to save yourself. It won't be easy...  Good luck.

Thank you for your kind words EndGame. Please what do you mean by rice and beans in your reply?

[DanishViking]

He properly means living extremely cheap for a period of your life in order to have enough money to do LL

[EndGame]

Exactly. Rice and beans is healthy but crazy cheap bought in bulk. Idea is lower cost of living every way you can and be healthy, live on the cheap, earn extra money however, save and invest, then afford a quality but less expensive LL doctor.

[LLprime3]

Aren't you glad then, that limb lengthening exists? It should boost your mood knowing that it's just a matter of time.
And as for money, regardless of what some guys here will say, the only thing that can multiple your money is crypto right now. Not  coins, but just some high caps that will. Some investments today, then wait 1.5 years, and you will have a head start.

[marcobao]

Aren't you glad then, that limb lengthening exists? It should boost your mood knowing that it's just a matter of time.
And as for money, regardless of what some guys here will say, the only thing that can multiple your money is crypto right now. Not  coins, but just some high caps that will. Some investments today, then wait 1.5 years, and you will have a head start.

Indeed I am glad to have found out about this. Only the cost is still quite discouraging because average monthly income with a descent job is only like $400 a month where I am. If I'm to save half of that every month for instance it will take over 16 years to get to $40k...money for 1 surgery in a cheap place.
So I will have to explore better earning options before getting that big smile on my face. I'll definitely give crypto a try like you suggested. Thank you for your reply by the way.

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

I don't understand why China is very hard on little men? Here in France the small Chinese are treated with respect or at least like a normal person while the size of the men is higher

Well, China is getting S.Koreanized but for some reason China's men are treated like S.Korea's girls, so correspondingly China's short men are treated as S.Korea's ugly girls, but you can improve your face by plastic surgeries not like height.

[LLprime3]

Indeed I am glad to have found out about this. Only the cost is still quite discouraging because average monthly income with a descent job is only like $400 a month where I am. If I'm to save half of that every month for instance it will take over 16 years to get to $40k...money for 1 surgery in a cheap place.
So I will have to explore better earning options before getting that big smile on my face. I'll definitely give crypto a try like you suggested. Thank you for your reply by the way.

$400 a month is way too little. You should utilize the internet and start earning by streaming or something like this with free programs (except for a cam). Because that is the only way to earn on an equal playing field to international prices.

[marcobao]

$400 a month is way too little. You should utilize the internet and start earning by streaming or something like this with free programs (except for a cam). Because that is the only way to earn on an equal playing field to international prices.

Exactly What I'd have to do. Thanks once again