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[alf6cm]

Hello brothers and sisters,

I’ve just had my consultation. I’m currently 169.5cm and from what i’ve heard in my consultation, although I wanted the max of 8cm increase on femurs, I’m now thinking I’ll settle for 5.8 - 6.3cm at most which will take me to 175.3 - 176cm which i’m very okay with. Just wanted to ask king time lurkers/readers/diary studiers and people who’ve had this surgery if there really is any advantage in terms of quick recovery and physicality for people who do 6cm vs 8cm on femurs. Please share your wisdom with me or even anyone’s diary or post that specifically addresses this. Thank you.

[sixfootandhalf]

According to Birkholtz, after 4cm complications increase exponentially.

6cm is generally seen as much safer than 8cm, and between 6 and 8cm your change of complications , and a much longer recovery significantly increases.

Those who have done 5-6cm on femurs recover much quicker than those who do 8.

But consult your surgeon. This is not medical advice.

Oh and get an ITB release. The 'soft' ITB relase is NOT an ITB release, those are pokes , not a paartial cut on the ITB band.

[alf6cm]

Thank you for your reply. That’s actually the surgeon i’m going with. Are you currently working with him?

[Zib]

Thank you for your reply. That’s actually the surgeon i’m going with. Are you currently working with him?

Are you going with Birkholtz?

[alf6cm]

Most likely. I love South Africa and I talked with him, he is level headed and fun and we had a good vibe. I also have to consider that I need good vibes for my first three months of recovery because I'm sure those are the tough times where I would be regretting that I did this. His prices also feel achievable. I do want to put my mind on a set limit for increase and not be tempted to go over no matter how good things go in the moment and I think I wanna set that for 6.3cm but I'm reading now that going above 5cm can be problematic. Do you have any thoughts?

[Zib]

Most likely. I love South Africa and I talked with him, he is level headed and fun and we had a good vibe. I also have to consider that I need good vibes for my first three months of recovery because I'm sure those are the tough times where I would be regretting that I did this. His prices also feel achievable. I do want to put my mind on a set limit for increase and not be tempted to go over no matter how good things go in the moment and I think I wanna set that for 6.3cm but I'm reading now that going above 5cm can be problematic. Do you have any thoughts?

It depends, each patiënt is different. As long as you dont overlengthrn. My advice (I am not an ortheopedic surgeon) Would be to lengthen and observe.

As someone who is interested in going to Birkholtz in a few years, can you tell me how much you are going to pay? And does hè do quad lengthening (3 weeks apart) ?

[alf6cm]

PM me and i’ll tell you what he charged me. It was a pretty good price and it encompasses accommodating and feeding and physio etc for three months. I don’t know if he does quad but he’s a very careful doctor and i don’t see him doing it in such a time.

The reason I want to set a limit is because i’m physically active and typically my personality is to overcome adversity so i can see myself wanting to push which is why I want to make an informed decision now. As it is, my mind is feeling like 6cm is good which will take me from 169.5 (nearly 5’7) to 175.5 (5.9’2) which i’d be so satisfied with. It’s more important for me to be up and walking normally in 6 months than it is to be taller than that. Also my logic is to go from one height group to the next not necessarily the number itself so i’ll be going from short to average.

[DanishViking]

As you can see in these threads 7-8 cm is still relatively safe for many patients. Birkholtz is almost the only surgeon who claims that after 6 cm it's almost dangerous to femur lengthening. Paley who has most experience in the world, says that most patients can handle 7-8 cm / inches without issues. However I have heard that if you care alot about athelitic ability then 6 cm is best for most.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=75056.0

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=65931.0

[alf6cm]

Thank you for your response. You are right. Although I think personally, I like to keep things in the conservative side and when I did the math - 6cm still puts me a little over 5'9 and 8cm also still leaves me in the 5'9s so whichever I picked, after surgery and healing I'd still be 5'9. I may have felt a little different if the additional 2cm would put me at 5'10 but since it doesn't, I think I'll stay at 6-6.5cm and tell the doctor to stop there no matter how much I beg for more and I know myself, if I surpass expectations, I will beg for more.

[BestOfLuck]

Thank you for your response. You are right. Although I think personally, I like to keep things in the conservative side and when I did the math - 6cm still puts me a little over 5'9 and 8cm also still leaves me in the 5'9s so whichever I picked, after surgery and healing I'd still be 5'9. I may have felt a little different if the additional 2cm would put me at 5'10 but since it doesn't, I think I'll stay at 6-6.5cm and tell the doctor to stop there no matter how much I beg for more and I know myself, if I surpass expectations, I will beg for more.

Wise choice, that extra one inch is irrelevant and not a single
Person on earth would be able to tell the difference. Especially not women who couldnt tell a 6 foot tall piece of 💩 if it was plopped dead on there doorstep.

[alf6cm]

Honestly may have even considered it if I was leaving one inch on the table but I'd be leaving 0.2 inch on that won't catapult me to a different height class- I'm good and I'll stay in the 5'9 range with or without. Also not even doing this for women. I could care less. Just want to be okay with myself.

[BestOfLuck]

Even better then. At that point you go until YOU feel satisfied and thats it. You know whats best for your body better then we do afterall

[alf6cm]

Thanks. What about you? What's your current height and what are you planning on doing if you don't mind sharing.

[BestOfLuck]

Thanks. What about you? What's your current height and what are you planning on doing if you don't mind sharing.

I dont mind at all, My current height is 173cm at night, and i plan to do a minimum of 5cm but if i can ill shoot for 6 maximum 7. athleticism isnt a majorly important thing for me, but the smoother and safer the recovery the better it is in my book. If i were to hit 5cm and was told
I wouldnt be able to do any minor weight lifting with my legs, or told id never be able to run id stop there. Just because id like to be able to continue everyday routines and all that. My wingspan is about 176cm and im very flexible. Like flexible enough to stand an inch on a box and not just touch my toes, but knuckle them. And my femur and tibia are very similar in size so i wouldnt look disproportionate even if i decided to do a larger amount like 8-10cm.

[alf6cm]

Nice.

I see people write about wingspan a lot. I wonder what the role of wingspan is? mine is 178 but my height is 169.5, yet, I never feel like my arms are too long. But I don't know.

I am also not an athlete anymore and I honestly can't remember when last I ran. Although I do lift currently 245lbs on squats so sad I won't be able to do that for a while. This might sound crazy but my biggest asset is my ass and I get complimented alot on how muscular is is, I'm so sad it's going to go.

[BestOfLuck]

Nice.

I see people write about wingspan a lot. I wonder what the role of wingspan is? mine is 178 but my height is 169.5, yet, I never feel like my arms are too long. But I don't know.

I am also not an athlete anymore and I honestly can't remember when last I ran. Although I do lift currently 245lbs on squats so sad I won't be able to do that for a while. This might sound crazy but my biggest asset is my ass and I get complimented alot on how muscular is is, I'm so sad it's going to go.

LOL 😂 dw that aint weird at all, wingspan is really just to distinguish how proportionate and flexible you most likely would be after the LL. If someones wingspan is the same as there height and they lengthen a larger amount they would obviously look a little disproportionate and might have a harder time doing things like cleaning there feet etc. So the more higher your wingspan is the better overall. Its not needed, but it definitely helps a ton.

I absolutely understand how you feel about losing muscle, ive spent the last year and half atrophying not just my legs, but my upper body as i knew for a fact that i wouldnt have the energy or willpower to workout AND do LL. Seeing my Physique slowly deteriorate was probably one of the worst things ive had to witness truly, but if i had to see myself slowly losing my upper body muscle during LL i almost guarantee that it would fk with my dedication and make me wanna stop. So it really is the best play to make

[alf6cm]

Oh I plan to start working upper body as soon as I can. I saw a guy's diary. His name is Movie and he didn't seem to lose ass so much so fingers crossed. Thanks for the info. When and what country/city are you doing your procedure?

[lovinglonglegs]

fyi, it's said lengthen bone within 20% of your original bone. you might wanna consider that too

[alf6cm]

Yes. 6.5cm puts me at about 13.5 percent of my femur.