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[tokyoteen]

I can't tell how tall i am in cm but standing my tallest I am 5'10 flat (barefoot). is going for 5cm femur a stupid idea? even if I work remotely and consider all risks/recovery? would go to Paley and do internal femur

*to add I have no problem getting girls but my reason for doing this is I have the budget and I'm capped at dating girls 5'9 and below. they notice im not that tall whenever in bigger crowds I feel inferior. It doesn't bother me too much but I am young and I would much rather live a 6'0 life then my current height.

*im grateful for my current height but I admire the journey everyone goes through and am willing to go through this for cm goal

[NailedLegs]

This is a personal decision. There's no way to correctly answer your question. It's up to you, not what a bunch of anonymous people on the internet think.

[junior006]

gaining height is pointless beyond 6'3 unless you want to be in the nba. the vast majority don't regret and wish they'd have done it sooner, (with safe results) it's your decision.

[tsmith4900]

It's not pointless, it's just diminishing returns compared to say, going from 5 ft 7 to 5ft 9.

It's still well worth it IMO.

[DanishViking]

I would say it depends entirely on your goal. If you think that it's going to make a huge difference, when it comes to dating, respect or for any other reason than fixing maybe your height dysphoria, your're wrong. In fact most women who see a guy whos 5'10 / 178 cm thinks his 6'0 / 183 cm because the guys wearing shoes and many guys in generel tends to say their height with shoes on and lie with up to 2 inches.

https://scoop.upworthy.com/woman-sparks-debate-after-revealing-plan-to-catch-men-lying-about-their-height-on-dating-apps

In my opinion you should only do this kind of surgery if you have servere height dysphoria and that you think to yourself every day: "I hate my life because of my height and I would do anything to become taller" . This surgery is brutal, and you properly not going to walk properly for 6 months, which is something most people overlook. If you believe yourself to be short when your're the average height of western men in generel, then you properly need to see a psychologist.

As you can see in this experiment being average height compared to tall when it comes to dating is vastly overrated, but going from short to average their is a HUGE gain in this field. So if your're thinking of doing this to impress women then think again. At the end of the day you can be any given height, but if your're: ugly, fat, socially akward, insecure, boring or have terrible style, your height ain't gonna matter.

[tsmith4900]

I for one am sick and tired of the 'see a psychologist' bollox posted on here. No one would say it to a girl who wanted a boob job despite having average sized tits.

There's nothing wrong at all with wanting to be 'tall' rather than 'average', even if it's not as big of a difference as going from short to average, it'll still help.

You know who really needs a fking psychologist? Those who say how they're 'proud to be short' or that 'no one will notice an extra 2cm' or '5ft 8 is around average'. They're the ones who are actually believing a lie and need to have it corrected.

You can add to that list anyone who thinks their job, car, income, humour, or fashion sense matter to girls on online dating. If your face isn't up to scratch, you'll not be swiped left on. If you can't give a good answer to 'how tall are you', you'll be unmatched.

Here's what matters for a happy life, in order of importance:

1) Facial attractiveness.
2) Height.
3) Race if you can geomax (being white in somewhere like China or Brazil will get you a fair bit of pussy by itself).
4) Freedom from having to work a wagie job (so you have more free time).
5) A very distant 5th place, is wealth.

[DanishViking]

Well all you have written is just your opinion and zero facts. And your're wrong 5'8 is still around the average. But is it the perfect height for most guys? Properly not... The reality according to most experts and people who have observed height alot is that unless your 2-3 inches / 5-7.5 cm shorter than the national average in a given country you ain't short. And in the US a tiny bit under 5'10 / 178 cm is the average height so maybe 176.5? /5'9 1/2? so if your 5'8 / 173 cm your're technically speaking still within the wider average, were barely any would consider you short.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=70539.0

https://dragons.org/what-height-is-considered-short/ (according to this article you would have to be 3 inches shorter than average to be considered short - 5'7 / 170 cm)

https://www.hoodmwr.com/what-height-is-considered-short-for-a-man-and-woman/ (same with this one)

However I agree that you would still see benefits by becoming taller at around this height for some indviduals, but they wouldn't be as big as someone going from 5'4 - 5'7 as an example, were your're invisible to women to dateable by almost everyone except shallow women since your taller than like 80% of women. At the end of the day it also depends on your overall apperience wether someone would look better being taller. If your more of a sweet looking pretty boy like - Zac Efron, Justin Bieber, Zayn Malik it would look off if your too tall, so their heights around 5'8 is fine to them, but oppisite if your more of a bigger badboy type of guy with big muscles and tatoos, around 5'11 properly would look better. This last part is just my opinion tho, but it can defitnitly also look stupid if you become tall and lanky rather than just skinny and around average height ish.

[informationispower]

I for one am sick and tired of the 'see a psychologist' bollox posted on here. No one would say it to a girl who wanted a boob job despite having average sized tits.

There's nothing wrong at all with wanting to be 'tall' rather than 'average', even if it's not as big of a difference as going from short to average, it'll still help.

You know who really needs a fking psychologist? Those who say how they're 'proud to be short' or that 'no one will notice an extra 2cm' or '5ft 8 is around average'. They're the ones who are actually believing a lie and need to have it corrected.

You can add to that list anyone who thinks their job, car, income, humour, or fashion sense matter to girls on online dating. If your face isn't up to scratch, you'll not be swiped left on. If you can't give a good answer to 'how tall are you', you'll be unmatched.

Here's what matters for a happy life, in order of importance:

1) Facial attractiveness.
2) Height.
3) Race if you can geomax (being white in somewhere like China or Brazil will get you a fair bit of pussy by itself).
4) Freedom from having to work a wagie job (so you have more free time).
5) A very distant 5th place, is wealth.

I agree with you about almost everything besides few things though. 5'8 is around average and imo height and race are equivelant as negatives ( that is too short or being from an "unattractive" racial minority like asians and indians in europe for example).
You are also correct about online dating where only looks matter but in real life (work, gym, bars etc...) Your character matters a lot. Of course it would be better to be 180cm, white, extrovert and facially attractive than being those things and 170cm tall but irl being all those things and being 170cm tall is not as bad as it might be on online dating

[tsmith4900]

Well all you have written is just your opinion and zero facts. And your're wrong 5'8 is still around the average. But is it the perfect height for most guys? Properly not... The reality according to most experts and people who have observed height alot is that unless your 2-3 inches / 5-7.5 cm shorter than the national average in a given country you ain't short. And in the US a tiny bit under 5'10 / 178 cm is the average height so maybe 176.5? /5'9 1/2? so if your 5'8 / 173 cm your're technically speaking still within the wider average, were barely any would consider you short.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=70539.0

https://dragons.org/what-height-is-considered-short/ (according to this article you would have to be 3 inches shorter than average to be considered short - 5'7 / 170 cm)

https://www.hoodmwr.com/what-height-is-considered-short-for-a-man-and-woman/ (same with this one)

However I agree that you would still see benefits by becoming taller at around this height for some indviduals, but they wouldn't be as big as someone going from 5'4 - 5'7 as an example, were your're invisible to women to dateable by almost everyone except shallow women since your taller than like 80% of women. At the end of the day it also depends on your overall apperience wether someone would look better being taller. If your more of a sweet looking pretty boy like - Zac Efron, Justin Bieber, Zayn Malik it would look off if your too tall, so their heights around 5'8 is fine to them, but oppisite if your more of a bigger badboy type of guy with big muscles and tatoos, around 5'11 properly would look better. This last part is just my opinion tho, but it can defitnitly also look stupid if you become tall and lanky rather than just skinny and around average height ish.

I don't need frickin (((articles))) to read, no, 5ft 8 is not 'average', I don't care what your (((research))) says. You know how it's easy to settle this? Would you rather be 5ft 10 or 5ft 8?

You chose 5ft 10, and you should have been indifferent if there is truly 'no difference' between the two heights. Game, Set, and Match.

Going from 5ft 4 to 5ft 7 I think is about the same as 5ft 10 to 6ft 1 tbh. It's a boost, yes, it's not gargantuan however, as the first one is still a manlet (NOT 'average') who will face quite a bit of height rejection, and the second one goes from average to tall. The BIG leap is from starting heights of 5ft 7-5ft 9 to ending heights of 5ft 10-6ft. That's the greatest percentile gain vs the general population - especially 5ft 7 to 10 and 5ft 8 to 11.

5ft 7 is not dateable to 80% of women and it's laughable to claim it is. Maybe 30%. 5ft 4 is near enough 0%. Everyone is 'shallow', it's not a bad thing, you too have looks requirements for a girl. Yes, I want to date 'shallow' people, as do you, as does everyone, and being rejected by a girl for height doen't mean you 'dodged a bullet', that's just copium manlets tell themselves. You don't consider yourself a toxic bullet because you have looks standards for your dates, I guarantee that. Why would it be any different when swapping the genders?

I agree with you about almost everything besides few things though. 5'8 is around average and imo height and race are equivelant as negatives ( that is too short or being from an "unattractive" racial minority like asians and indians in europe for example).
You are also correct about online dating where only looks matter but in real life (work, gym, bars etc...) Your character matters a lot. Of course it would be better to be 180cm, white, extrovert and facially attractive than being those things and 170cm tall but irl being all those things and being 170cm tall is not as bad as it might be on online dating

Online dating is the most 'brutal', but it's also how most young couples meet these days, so that's the yardstick to use. Clubs and bars are absolutely dead, and you need to be a certain type of person to thrive in those anyway (specifically, you need friends, friends who also enjoy going to bars and clubs, since going there alone is extremely awkward and marks you out as a loser from the getgo, that's if you even get in as a single guy, which you most likely won't. You also have to be comfortable approaching strangers, most people aren't, and nothing wrong with that since it is kinda 'weird').

Yeah you can luck out at the gym or the park or whatever but it's just not where most people meet nowadays. If you can't do well on online dating you're fighting a massive uphill battle, especially once you've graduated college since how else are you getting access to young prime women? Wagie jobs are full of 30+ trash women, and working one of those sucks anyway.

[dboy123]

I don't need frickin (((articles))) to read, no, 5ft 8 is not 'average', I don't care what your (((research))) says. You know how it's easy to settle this? Would you rather be 5ft 10 or 5ft 8?

You chose 5ft 10, and you should have been indifferent if there is truly 'no difference' between the two heights. Game, Set, and Match.

Going from 5ft 4 to 5ft 7 I think is about the same as 5ft 10 to 6ft 1 tbh. It's a boost, yes, it's not gargantuan however, as the first one is still a manlet (NOT 'average') who will face quite a bit of height rejection, and the second one goes from average to tall. The BIG leap is from starting heights of 5ft 7-5ft 9 to ending heights of 5ft 10-6ft. That's the greatest percentile gain vs the general population - especially 5ft 7 to 10 and 5ft 8 to 11.

5ft 7 is not dateable to 80% of women and it's laughable to claim it is. Maybe 30%. 5ft 4 is near enough 0%. Everyone is 'shallow', it's not a bad thing, you too have looks requirements for a girl. Yes, I want to date 'shallow' people, as do you, as does everyone, and being rejected by a girl for height doen't mean you 'dodged a bullet', that's just copium manlets tell themselves. You don't consider yourself a toxic bullet because you have looks standards for your dates, I guarantee that. Why would it be any different when swapping the genders?

Online dating is the most 'brutal', but it's also how most young couples meet these days, so that's the yardstick to use. Clubs and bars are absolutely dead, and you need to be a certain type of person to thrive in those anyway (specifically, you need friends, friends who also enjoy going to bars and clubs, since going there alone is extremely awkward and marks you out as a loser from the getgo, that's if you even get in as a single guy, which you most likely won't. You also have to be comfortable approaching strangers, most people aren't, and nothing wrong with that since it is kinda 'weird').

Yeah you can luck out at the gym or the park or whatever but it's just not where most people meet nowadays. If you can't do well on online dating you're fighting a massive uphill battle, especially once you've graduated college since how else are you getting access to young prime women? Wagie jobs are full of 30+ trash women, and working one of those sucks anyway.

Don't let these people deter you on what you want to do, they are not your height and they would never understand, same with my height, being tall is a benefit, being average is just gives you a fighting chance. I'm 5'8 well I don't feel too short I think doing 3.5 inches to get me to 6 foot would benefit me a lot and wingspan is 5'10 so I wouldn't look bad, so that's what I'm planning on doing.

[tokyoteen]

hmm i’m somewhat in the middle i’m mullato and have a somewhat of a feminine and masculine face, early 20s and lean, prob 150lbs. stay very healthy diet wise and physically

i think i would benefit greatly by unlocking new doors but really 5’10 feels average but most definitely good enough. i don’t have bad height dysmorphia but i would definitely feel the benefit if i went through w this

[informationispower]

Online dating is the most 'brutal', but it's also how most young couples meet these days, so that's the yardstick to use. Clubs and bars are absolutely dead, and you need to be a certain type of person to thrive in those anyway (specifically, you need friends, friends who also enjoy going to bars and clubs, since going there alone is extremely awkward and marks you out as a loser from the getgo, that's if you even get in as a single guy, which you most likely won't. You also have to be comfortable approaching strangers, most people aren't, and nothing wrong with that since it is kinda 'weird').

Yeah you can luck out at the gym or the park or whatever but it's just not where most people meet nowadays. If you can't do well on online dating you're fighting a massive uphill battle, especially once you've graduated college since how else are you getting access to young prime women? Wagie jobs are full of 30+ trash women, and working one of those sucks anyway.

I think it depends on the country and the job. I live in Italy where online dating is pretty non existent so we dont have this problem here unlike the USA. Also, about the workplace, I am a resident general surgeon and most nurses and female collegues are between 23-28 so it really depends on what you do I guess. My gf is working at an office job and she told me she is the youngest at 27 years old.

Again, I am not trying to discredit your life experience but talking from mine, if we were to put an upper limit to which adding height is no longer beneficial when taking into considerations the risks, I believe that 5'9 is the upper limit (talking about a minimum of 5cm lengthening) because at around 5'9 in most of the west height is no longer a negative and once you reach 180cms you are considered tall

[tsmith4900]

I think it depends on the country and the job. I live in Italy where online dating is pretty non existent so we dont have this problem here unlike the USA. Also, about the workplace, I am a resident general surgeon and most nurses and female collegues are between 23-28 so it really depends on what you do I guess. My gf is working at an office job and she told me she is the youngest at 27 years old.

Again, I am not trying to discredit your life experience but talking from mine, if we were to put an upper limit to which adding height is no longer beneficial when taking into considerations the risks, I believe that 5'9 is the upper limit (talking about a minimum of 5cm lengthening) because at around 5'9 in most of the west height is no longer a negative and once you reach 180cms you are considered tall

I've travelled all around the world - the common theme is, if you're by yourself, the only way to meet girls is through online dating. Without school/college there's nothing that gets you around young prime women (to be clear when I say young and prime, I mean college aged, not mid-20s or above). Put it this way: in 2019 I travelled to China. Using Tantan (the Chinese version of Tinder) it was very easy to set up 5-7 dates a week and have a great 2 week holiday, and I fked 5 girls in that time. Without the use of online? Impossible, no one in the street speaks English and of course you look like some sort of creepy loser walking around by yourself trying to get 'in' with random people. Same experiences all over Asia, Europe (mainly East Europe) and South America. It really is online or bust unless you have a 'social circle', which you'll only have if you stay in the place you were born and/or work a wagie job and get in with them, either isn't an appealing prospect. Think about your home country. If you moved cities, like lets say you moved from Rome to Milan, and you didn't know anyone in Milan, how else do you propose to meet a girl? It's going to be either online or through your job if you have one since the reality is approaching randoms on the street is extremely weird and 99% of people cannot and do not want to do it.

I'd say 5ft 11 is the cutoff where risks and benefits start to turn against you, and the absolute best height in terms of 'benefit to cost ratio' is going from 5ft 7 to 5ft 10 (i.e. short to average).

[GrowGrow123]

I was in a similar position as you. My starting height was 5' 9.5". Did Precice 2.2 limb lengthening back in March and should be done with the growing / distraction phase next week which will put me at around 6' 0.5". Total of 8 cm grown.

While I've never felt "short", I've also never felt tall. And I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to be above average in life. Would I take another million dollars if I could? Would I take another 10 IQ points if I could? Would I take being a bit more attractive if I could? Yes, to all the above.

As much as people want to give moral platitudes about how height doesn't matter and it's all about what's inside, the real world doesn't quite bear this out. It is an undeniable fact that height privilege is a real thing.

I work fully remote so I wouldn't have to miss any work and the financial cost wasn't a big deal as I've saved up a lot of money over the years. I understood the risks involved (as any surgery has), but reasoned that the risks are very small as long as you get the surgery done with a top surgeon and put the work in on physical therapy.

What it boiled down to for me was not wanting to live life with regrets. I have an opportunity to live the rest of my life as a "tall" person and to live my life with all the benefits / privileges that it affords. I didn't want to live a life wondering if the tall beautiful model-esque girl wearing 3 inch heels wasn't interested because I was too short for her, if I would have gotten that promotion over someone else if I was taller and thus perceived as more of a leader, etc. I only have one life to live and I might as well maximize it to the extent that it is within my ability to do so.

At the end of the day, the decision to do this surgery is a highly personal one. What may bring happiness and elevated quality of life to one person may not for another.

[informationispower]

I've travelled all around the world - the common theme is, if you're by yourself, the only way to meet girls is through online dating. Without school/college there's nothing that gets you around young prime women (to be clear when I say young and prime, I mean college aged, not mid-20s or above). Put it this way: in 2019 I travelled to China. Using Tantan (the Chinese version of Tinder) it was very easy to set up 5-7 dates a week and have a great 2 week holiday, and I fked 5 girls in that time. Without the use of online? Impossible, no one in the street speaks English and of course you look like some sort of creepy loser walking around by yourself trying to get 'in' with random people. Same experiences all over Asia, Europe (mainly East Europe) and South America. It really is online or bust unless you have a 'social circle', which you'll only have if you stay in the place you were born and/or work a wagie job and get in with them, either isn't an appealing prospect. Think about your home country. If you moved cities, like lets say you moved from Rome to Milan, and you didn't know anyone in Milan, how else do you propose to meet a girl? It's going to be either online or through your job if you have one since the reality is approaching randoms on the street is extremely weird and 99% of people cannot and do not want to do it.

I'd say 5ft 11 is the cutoff where risks and benefits start to turn against you, and the absolute best height in terms of 'benefit to cost ratio' is going from 5ft 7 to 5ft 10 (i.e. short to average).

You were 5'7.5 if I remember correctly and yet you describe a pretty good sxx life even using online dating as a traveller. This is why I say that irl, 5'7, while far from perfect is not as bad as it is described on this forum or elsewhere in the web. It is also a height that with a small insole or even some footwear you basically pass the height threshold for many women.
Again, I am also 5'7 so it is not that I am saying that a 5'7 doing this is crazy. I am just planning a 5-6cms femurs though since in the west outside of the USA 175cms appears to be the height where your height is no longer a negative

[TheDream]

You were 5'7.5 if I remember correctly and yet you describe a pretty good sxx life even using online dating as a traveller. This is why I say that irl, 5'7, while far from perfect is not as bad as it is described on this forum or elsewhere in the web. It is also a height that with a small insole or even some footwear you basically pass the height threshold for many women.
Again, I am also 5'7 so it is not that I am saying that a 5'7 doing this is crazy... Just stating that 5'7 is really the minimum accepted height

Depends on country though. If he was in the Netherlands or Norway instead of China would the result have been the same? Also I think insoles and lifts should be avoided at all costs.
If you have to take your shoes off for any given occasion, then you will be exposed, and if you thought people gave you crap for your height before wait and see after you get caught wearing lifts, it will be 10000 times worse.

[informationispower]

Depends on country though. If he was in the Netherlands or Norway instead of China would the result have been the same? Also I think insoles and lifts should be avoided at all costs.
If you have to take your shoes off for any given occasion, then you will be exposed, and if you thought people gave you crap for your height before wait and see after you get caught wearing lifts, it will be 10000 times worse.

Netherlands and Norway are some of the few countries that have a tall average height. Since I am not dutch or scandinavian and neither most of us, there is no need to try and be as tall as them. I am meditterenean and the average height is somewhere between 174-177 in this area.
About insoles, nothing wrong with a 2cm insole as while it does have an effect on your POV, it doesnt really on how others see you.. I have been wearing them from for close to 10 years and many times I did experiments to see if people notice when I put them or not and I can assure you that no one notices 2cms besides you

[tsmith4900]

I was in a similar position as you. My starting height was 5' 9.5". Did Precice 2.2 limb lengthening back in March and should be done with the growing / distraction phase next week which will put me at around 6' 0.5". Total of 8 cm grown.

While I've never felt "short", I've also never felt tall. And I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to be above average in life. Would I take another million dollars if I could? Would I take another 10 IQ points if I could? Would I take being a bit more attractive if I could? Yes, to all the above.

As much as people want to give moral platitudes about how height doesn't matter and it's all about what's inside, the real world doesn't quite bear this out. It is an undeniable fact that height privilege is a real thing.

I work fully remote so I wouldn't have to miss any work and the financial cost wasn't a big deal as I've saved up a lot of money over the years. I understood the risks involved (as any surgery has), but reasoned that the risks are very small as long as you get the surgery done with a top surgeon and put the work in on physical therapy.

What it boiled down to for me was not wanting to live life with regrets. I have an opportunity to live the rest of my life as a "tall" person and to live my life with all the benefits / privileges that it affords. I didn't want to live a life wondering if the tall beautiful model-esque girl wearing 3 inch heels wasn't interested because I was too short for her, if I would have gotten that promotion over someone else if I was taller and thus perceived as more of a leader, etc. I only have one life to live and I might as well maximize it to the extent that it is within my ability to do so.

At the end of the day, the decision to do this surgery is a highly personal one. What may bring happiness and elevated quality of life to one person may not for another.

Amen to this.

No one would tell a guy earning $30,000 a year 'oh you're already average bro, you shouldn't strive to want more, trying to climb the ladder is only for those on $15k and under'. Yet when it comes to height there's gatekeepers everywhere saying 'average' is fine (and most of the time what they describe as average isn't even average). Maximise everything you can.

You were 5'7.5 if I remember correctly and yet you describe a pretty good sxx life even using online dating as a traveller. This is why I say that irl, 5'7, while far from perfect is not as bad as it is described on this forum or elsewhere in the web. It is also a height that with a small insole or even some footwear you basically pass the height threshold for many women.
Again, I am also 5'7 so it is not that I am saying that a 5'7 doing this is crazy. I am just planning a 5-6cms femurs though since in the west outside of the USA 175cms appears to be the height where your height is no longer a negative

That's why point 3 of my 'list of stuff that is important to be happy' in this thread is race. Put simply it's a lot easier to get sex as a 5ft 7 white guy in China than it would be as a 5ft 7 Chinese guy in China (or a 5ft 7 white guy in Europe).

That doesn't mean I wouldn't have done better at 5ft 10. I'd at least be in the game in Europe then on a level playing field with anyone else (rather than starting off at a massive disadvantage), and I'd heightmog all the locals in Asia rather than just being 'average'.

Insoles etc are irrelevant since they're not mutually exclusive with leg lengthening. It's like telling a bald guy to just go to the gym - yeah bro, how about go to the gym AND not lose your hair, instead? Normies love to do this, portraying 2 things as an either/or situation. Fact is, you can get LL to get 3 extra inches AND wear an insole for 1 more if you so desire.

[informationispower]

Insoles are indeed not mutually exclusive with ll but admit that it is safer and more cost effective for a 5'9 guy to wear them than rather risk it in surgery haha.

In fact, I plan on keeping wearing them afterwards but who knows

[tsmith4900]

Insoles are indeed not mutually exclusive with ll but admit that it is safer and more cost effective for a 5'9 guy to wear them than rather risk it in surgery haha.

In fact, I plan on keeping wearing them afterwards but who knows

Of course it's safer and cheaper but there's no reason one cant do both (unless 6ft or so already where you might 'only' need an extra inch to be just about perfect).

I'd probably wear lifts when in Europe at 5ft 10. Wouldn't bother anywhere in Asia, North Africa, the Middle East, or Latin America, as you're already comfortably above average then and the law of diminishing returns kicks in (and lifts are uncomfortable).

[informationispower]

Since using the insoles i can't imagine walking without them. They are super comfortable. I did get costume made though and not those cheap ones you buy on Amazon.

[informationispower]

Btw, how long do you have left for reaching your 3 inches goal?

[tsmith4900]

Btw, how long do you have left for reaching your 3 inches goal?

Done 4cm now, another 4cm to go. Then of course there's all the consolidation etc so in reality quite a long time before I'll be able to enjoy any of it.

[170cmperson]

Btw, how long do you have left for reaching your 3 inches goal?

Wrong tag sorry

[170cmperson]

Since using the insoles i can't imagine walking without them. They are super comfortable. I did get costume made though and not those cheap ones you buy on Amazon.

Can tell me where and how i do that please? Thanks

[DanishViking]

tsmith4900 well according to basically everyone on the internet your're wrong. Look at this poll done from a couple months ago, and read the experts opinion on the topic everyone disagrees with you. So say and believe whatever you think, but at the end of the day 99% of people agree that your're wrong lol.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=83688.0 (look at this poll as well, even people in here think your're wrong.)

[tsmith4900]

tsmith4900 well according to basically everyone on the internet your're wrong. Look at this poll done from a couple months ago, and read the experts opinion on the topic everyone disagrees with you. So say and believe whatever you think, but at the end of the day 99% of people agree that your're wrong lol.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=83688.0 (look at this poll as well, even people in here think your're wrong.)

1) I couldn't give 2 craps about (((expert opinion))). Oh vey goyim we're going to need your claims (((peer reviewed))) by Professor Noseberg before determining they're valid!

2) The thread you linked backs up everything I said - 5ft 7 is the best 'bang for your buck', with 5ft 8-5ft 9 also showing strongly, the manlet heights like 5ft 2-3 not being worth it as you're still a manlet, and 5ft 10+ not really being the best starting height. Literally backs up me, not you.

[Body Builder]

If you have huge amounts of money then no, it is not pointless.
It will be relatively safe and at 5.10 doing 5cm will still give you some benefits in dating and only there.

If I had huge amounts of money to afford going to a top doctor and stay in a very safe amount, I would do it.
If I didn't have large amounts of money though, I would spend then in much better ways than LL if I was more than 1,75. Also, if I was more than 45yo.

[DanishViking]

The thread that I linked to, basically states by the results that 5'6 - 5'7 is the best bang while 5'4 and 5'5 has like 40% votes also. So if we take the height in the middle between them all it's properly 5'5 1/2 that wins since its the median height right in the middle. Then if you get the full 3 inches that most people do, you end up with a height of 5'8 1/2 or from 166 to 174 cm. Which is in between 5'8 and 5'9 so your're technnically wrong. But whatever.

If you want to think differently then 99% then go ahead. At the end of the day LL is worth it, if you believe your life would be better by becoming taller at any given height tbh. I just personally think like many others that doing LL above 5'10 is stupid, if your doing it for any other reason than height dysphoria but you properly dont care, so I'm going to shut up for now haha.

[tsmith4900]

The thread that I linked to, basically states by the results that 5'6 - 5'7 is the best bang while 5'4 and 5'5 has like 40% votes also. So if we take the height in the middle between them all it's properly 5'5 1/2 that wins since its the median height right in the middle. Then if you get the full 3 inches that most people do, you end up with a height of 5'8 1/2 or from 166 to 174 cm. Which is in between 5'8 and 5'9 so your're technnically wrong. But whatever.

If you want to think differently then 99% then go ahead. At the end of the day LL is worth it, if you believe your life would be better by becoming taller at any given height tbh. I just personally think like many others that doing LL above 5'10 is stupid, if your doing it for any other reason than height dysphoria but you properly dont care, so I'm going to shut up for now haha.

What a ridiculous take when ranges are given within the poll. There is no reason we should 'take the middle' of just the two most popular votes and you obviously have a huge agenda with your biased reading of 'statistics' - one reason I don't give a damn about (((experts))).

28% of people in that poll voted for a height 5 ft 5 or below. 35% voted for a height 5ft 8 or above. The median is 5ft 7 if you split the ranges into equal votes, the weighted average is slightly over 5ft 7, only with your cringeworthy take can you make it 'fit' your theory.

'Think differently than 99%', jog on son.

[hippo60]

Guys, tsmith4900 is p00293. If you don't remember - it's the same troll who kept ruining every single thread, lashing out on everybody, and was completely tone deaf to any counter argument. It's a complete waste of time to respond to him. You better off just ignoring him, as does the forum rule suggests ("Do Not Respond to Trolls", hard to miss).

We need this miserable piece of human being out of here. Please for the love of god stop interacting with him.