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[rNoei11]

Have been viewing posts several days. This forum really helps me a lot.

I am a male buddy (60kg), eager to improve my current 170cm to 177cm. After a lot of researches, I finally limit my choice between Betz-Becker and Paley.

I prefer to do LL in my tibia because I assume this could give a better proportion than femur.

Since Betzbone promises to give 7cm LL in tibia and Precice done with Paley only promises to max 5cm, i am a little teetered to conduct the LL with Dr.Becker. And what’s more intriguing me is the full weight bearing of Betzbone described in their website. If that’s true, that’s a huge pro for us to walk soon after surgery, even with crutches, which means though there are some problems, we could dive into routine work and life.

However, I have noticed some negative reviews about Betz-Becker, such as even a sorry death case. I cannot tell whether these reviews are true or false. But these negative reviews indeed cut back several inches of Betz-Beckers’ profile.

I don’t say that the LL history with Paley is perfect, but it seems, just seems, Paley has a better reputation? I doubt that’s because Dr. Paley is more conservative?

Or, I just should be more patient to wait for the reuse of STYDE?

Any advise is sincerely appreciated.

[lessthanavg8300]

Have been viewing posts several days. This forum really helps me a lot.

I am a male buddy (60kg), eager to improve my current 170cm to 177cm. After a lot of researches, I finally limit my choice between Betz-Becker and Paley.

I prefer to do LL in my tibia because I assume this could give a better proportion than femur.

Since Betzbone promises to give 7cm LL in tibia and Precice done with Paley only promises to max 5cm, i am a little teetered to conduct the LL with Dr.Becker. And what’s more intriguing me is the full weight bearing of Betzbone described in their website. If that’s true, that’s a huge pro for us to walk soon after surgery, even with crutches, which means though there are some problems, we could dive into routine work and life.

However, I have noticed some negative reviews about Betz-Becker, such as even a sorry death case. I cannot tell whether these reviews are true or false. But these negative reviews indeed cut back several inches of Betz-Beckers’ profile.

I don’t say that the LL history with Paley is perfect, but it seems, just seems, Paley has a better reputation? I doubt that’s because Dr. Paley is more conservative?

Or, I just should be more patient to wait for the reuse of STYDE?

Any advise is sincerely appreciated.

Both surgeons are going to do a good job installing the nail and with your surgical incisions.  I would put that concern aside.  And things like rehab and nutrition are really going to be mostly up to you and your own will.

The question at hand between these two is really do you want a weight bearing nail and to not be in a wheelchair in exchange for a pain in the ass process of clicking your legs.  Not that precice is easy or painless either.  I think theres a higher chance you hit an issue lengthening with Becker but the reward is you walk which does wonders for your mental health and recovery.  Its not an easy decision.  Becker is a great surgeon though I can attest to that and Im happy I went with him even though I had issues with clicking.

[rNoei11]

That helps a lot. Your previous post about your LL with Becker is an important factor in my decision.   

What do you mean that theres a higher chance you hit an issue lengthening with Becker. What kind of issue I probably would hit?

[tsmith4900]

That helps a lot. Your previous post about your LL with Becker is an important factor in my decision.   

What do you mean that theres a higher chance you hit an issue lengthening with Becker. What kind of issue I probably would hit?

Obviously lengthening 7cm is going to have a higher chance of problems than 5.

FWIW no one can 'promise' anything. Yes, if you don't get 5cm, that's down to you and you alone because it'd mean you have no tolerance for any adversity. Past that level though a lot is going to depend on how well your tendons and nerves stretch, which is partly a genetic thing.

I'd go with the weight bearing nail, just be aware that unlike in the USA, Becker isn't likely to hold your hand and make every decision for you. You can try for more length but you'll own the consequences of that, whereas in America the god-complex of doctors will ensure that they'll make that choice as 'they know best', apparently...

[rNoei11]

Yes. Weight bearing nail is truly a master pro. And, if we use weight bearing nail, we could do more exercises during the whole procedure, which definitely helps to recover better. I think this is the reason why Betzbone could give a little more LL than Precice. Exercise is a key factor in nerve and tendon formation.

[uponly]

This isn't even a fair comparison. Comparing Drs. Betz/Becker to Dr. Paley is like comparing a tugboat to a battleship.

If you can afford Dr. Paley, absolutely do it with him.

[tokyoteen]

@uponly did you actually get LL? your a newbie

[Bagga]

Have been viewing posts several days. This forum really helps me a lot.

I am a male buddy (60kg), eager to improve my current 170cm to 177cm. After a lot of researches, I finally limit my choice between Betz-Becker and Paley.

I prefer to do LL in my tibia because I assume this could give a better proportion than femur.

Since Betzbone promises to give 7cm LL in tibia and Precice done with Paley only promises to max 5cm, i am a little teetered to conduct the LL with Dr.Becker. And what’s more intriguing me is the full weight bearing of Betzbone described in their website. If that’s true, that’s a huge pro for us to walk soon after surgery, even with crutches, which means though there are some problems, we could dive into routine work and life.

However, I have noticed some negative reviews about Betz-Becker, such as even a sorry death case. I cannot tell whether these reviews are true or false. But these negative reviews indeed cut back several inches of Betz-Beckers’ profile.

I don’t say that the LL history with Paley is perfect, but it seems, just seems, Paley has a better reputation? I doubt that’s because Dr. Paley is more conservative?

Or, I just should be more patient to wait for the reuse of STYDE?

Any advise is sincerely appreciated.

Please share the death case as mentioned by you

[rNoei11]

As I have said, it may be just a rumor. I also want to check its authenticity.

[12cmtaller]

Definitely, Paley if it is Paley himself doing the surgery. He is more experienced and precise is safer and less painful. Though I would choose Becker for its convenience and not that bad safety record. I am pretty sure that there is not a single death case at Becker or he would be stripped of his license considering the strict regulations in Germany

[tallmen]

Definitely, Paley if it is Paley himself doing the surgery. He is more experienced and precise is safer and less painful. Though I would choose Becker for its convenience and not that bad safety record. I am pretty sure that there is not a single death case at Becker or he would be stripped of his license considering the strict regulations in Germany

He won't. Robins will do it most prob. who is less experienced than other docs. IMO, Dr. Assayag is a better choice.

[lessthanavg8300]

80% of not getting f-cked up with this surgery is just not doing LON and not doing excessive amounts.  Almost every single case where someone has a bad outcome its because of 1 of these 2.  There have been people that made it out ok with LON but your risks go way up.  So just get internals by someone recognizable and youll prob be fine with whoever you choose.  Death is extremely rare even for butcher shops in India.