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hippo60

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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #93 on: April 29, 2023, 07:39:41 PM »

I already showed you, with evidence, that although a lot of women PREFER a tall guy, they are willing to date someone that is average height (just like you would prefer to date someone thats extremely attractive).

Extremely well said brother, but you're essentially speaking to a wall. Don't waste your time, learn from our mistakes! :'(
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #94 on: April 29, 2023, 08:58:35 PM »

Doesnt the answer to this discussion also depend on which country you are from?
In the Netherlands and Scandinavia the average male height is 5’11” afaik while in the US it is 5’9”.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #95 on: April 29, 2023, 09:41:52 PM »

Extremely well said brother, but you're essentially speaking to a wall. Don't waste your time, learn from our mistakes! :'(

Keep barking for me dog.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #96 on: April 29, 2023, 09:59:02 PM »

Keep barking for me dog.

You're mentally ill, and I sincerely hope your misery and destructive behaviour doesn't expand beyond online forums.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #97 on: April 29, 2023, 11:45:48 PM »

You're mentally ill, and I sincerely hope your misery and destructive behaviour doesn't expand beyond online forums.

He is some alt-right wierdo. Explain why you dont need to take dating advice from dudes on internet forums haha
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #98 on: April 30, 2023, 09:25:13 AM »

He is some alt-right wierdo. Explain why you dont need to take dating advice from dudes on internet forums haha

You're mentally ill, and I sincerely hope your misery and destructive behaviour doesn't expand beyond online forums.

Back to reddit with the pair of you. Muh mental illness, muh (((therapy))), muh tolerance.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #99 on: April 30, 2023, 04:52:55 PM »

Back to reddit with the pair of you. Muh mental illness, muh (((therapy))), muh tolerance.

Shut up nerd
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #100 on: April 30, 2023, 05:51:37 PM »

Shut up nerd

You'll have to make me. Oh, but you can't can you, soyboy?
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #101 on: April 30, 2023, 08:54:13 PM »

what are these arguments even. bro just stay at 5'9 and be a happy short king, no one gives a  . I'm gonna enjoy being 6 feet tho cause I decided to get this at 5'9 and I know it is 100% worth it. beyond girls, just general human interaction, being taller as a man is 100% better. Good luck, short king.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #102 on: April 30, 2023, 09:23:08 PM »

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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #103 on: May 03, 2023, 03:44:16 AM »

I did this surgery to go from 5’3 to 5’6, and quite honestly - the answer is no. 5’9 is a completely reasonable height.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #104 on: May 03, 2023, 05:00:28 AM »

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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #105 on: May 04, 2023, 02:30:04 PM »

if being tall is important for you go ahead. just realize its a 6mo+ time investment not just the funds
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #106 on: September 21, 2023, 02:04:36 AM »

Taylor Swift is literally with Fernando Alonso who is 5.4 height but a very.successful f1 driver with plenty of money.
He is not even close to average but very short for a man.

A man who  take bs from his gf to keep her will lose her for sure, no matter if his height. At 5.9, if you look good and have self esteem and some money you don't have anything to envy from a 6ft man in the same league. Even many women are more into average height men than tall ones (not the majority but still many).
A 5.9 man who is unsuccessful with women must first try many other things than LL.because most probably height is not his main problem.
On the other hamd, a 5.6 man no matter what he'll fix he is very shirt for the average women to date so the first and most important he should fix is his height.
I am very but just curious about the proof about there being many women more into average men instead of tall men.
It seems to me nearly all of women are more into tall men instead of average men, just like nearly all of men are more into hot girls instead of mediocre ones.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #107 on: September 21, 2023, 02:13:01 AM »

iirc 5'9 corresponds to 175? This is a totally normal height and just work on other things. LL will not benefit you much. If I were you I would be 100% satistified with my height
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #108 on: September 26, 2023, 07:58:15 AM »

An fyr for people is that usually a 1inch difference between heights is not that noticeable majority of the time. Eg. 5'9 to 5'10 will look similar in height in a lot of cases unless they're told to specifically stand straight back to back with each other. It's why men can usually lie about their height by an inch more, and why 5'11 guys are effectively 6'0 while 5'10 guys claiming to be 6'0 looks hilariously obvious.

In anycase, if your goal is to date girls, well I'd say it still depends. If you're in a country whose height avg is 5'9 to 5'10, then you'll look better in comparison to other competition in the dating scene. However, I also want to ask, is that what you really want to be dating with, someone who is shallow enough to notice 2 inches of height? While yes, being taller will make you look attractive and of course not all girls are shallow just because they liked a tall guy, but if that's the specific trait they're targeting then you'd better think twice. IMO, do limb lengthening for the sake of your own asides dating like you want to be taller because of dysphoria, other mental issues, or physically speaking activities that require you to be taller. Unless you're like under 5'6, it's usually not worth just for secifically dating. If you're at that height and is dysphoric about your height because of women, you might have other issues affecting your confidence.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #109 on: September 26, 2023, 12:34:45 PM »

No
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #110 on: September 26, 2023, 07:17:27 PM »

It was for me. I'm very happy at my new height (basically 6' 1") and would do it again.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #111 on: October 16, 2023, 10:01:08 AM »

Check out the chart on this study:
https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=573743071&hl=en&sxsrf=AM9HkKkO2J9g5yOiloFVotrHAkkioxR1XA:1697450179589&q=womens+acceptance+of+potential+male+partners+based+on+male+height&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwicuunXpvqBAxVJm4kEHUblCQQQ0pQJegQIDBAB&biw=1120&bih=628&dpr=3#imgrc=ownS8Rgg6rWCbM

A man's height determines his dating pool. Their findings demonstrated the cutoffs at which women consider a man too short or too tall:

-90% of women will reject a man who is 5'4" based solely on his height.

-65% of women will reject a man who is 5'7" based solely on his height.

-50% of women will reject a man who is 5'8" based solely on his height.

-14% of women will reject a man who is 5'10" based solely on his height.

-1.5% of women will reject a man who is 6' based solely on his height.

-Past 6'2", women begin to increase rejections of men for being too tall.

-30% of women believe there is no such thing as a man being "too tall."

-Over 94% of women will reject a man solely for him being too short.

Part 2

Further analysis of their data demonstrates the importance of every inch of height for men, as two inches of height gain for a man can be found to have the following results:

- A man in the 5'4-5'6" range will have more than double the potential number of female partners with 2" height gain.
- A 5'4" man will have 2.3 times as many potential female partners by gaining 2" height.
- A 5'7" man will have 1.86 times as many potential female partners by gaining 2" height.
- Benefits become insignificant past 5'10".
- Below 5'1" a 2" height gain also makes an insignificant difference, as even after 2" gain, a man at this height is still "too short" for most women to consider.

Because the few women who are willing to date a shorter men are also generally willing to date a taller man as well, the competition for women willing to date shorter men becomes extremely high. This means:

- A 5' man must "beat" over 12 men (most of whom will be taller) to get a girl accepting of his height.
- A 5'4" man will have to "beat" over 7 other men (most of whom will be taller) to get a girl accepting of his height.
- 5'10 to 6'4" men have the least competition as the demand for these men outpaces their supply, and statistically overall women must compete for these men rather than vice versa.

This is for if you are looking to do LL for dating options. I am assuming the benefit ratio for ability to make money, living happier, living longer, getting more respect from peers would be similar to these studies as well. You gotta ask yourself cost benefit ratio is worth it to go from 5'9.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #113 on: October 16, 2023, 05:28:07 PM »

https://www.gertstulp.com/pdf/Stulp%20et%20al%202013_Anim%20Behav_The%20height%20of%20choosiness.pdf
Enjoyed reading. Thanks for sharing it. Interesting to see some things we all kinda knew vaguely get quantified.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #114 on: October 19, 2023, 01:26:47 PM »

It is worth it if you think it's worth it.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #115 on: October 19, 2023, 03:30:30 PM »

I would like to give my 2 cents after reading the whole convo.

1. YOU SHOULD NEVER UNDERGO THE PROCEDURE FOR DATING REASONS

Read carefully, you need to understand the reason you are going to do this is FOR YOU, I know most would believe that increasing its own height somehow gives you a instant "girl magnet"; hear me out IT DOES NOT. This procedure is difficult, painful, expensive, and stressful if you make your mind on the dating basis you won't be mentally prepared for it. You need to be able to understand that even though height is a real and important factor to boost your overall confidence it can not be the foundation for this surgery. Separate the concepts, I would not ever deny that girls prefer taller men, but the point is you need to erase from your mind this as the reason for your procedure, you will regret it.

2. BODY DYSMORPHIA IS REAL AT ANY HEIGHT

There is this misconception that if you are above average you should be ok and accept yourself as you are. It does not work like that the pressure you feel when you are not as you internally feel you should be can be overwhelming.. Im talking about people (like me) who feel unbearable psycological pain for not been taller enough. And yes, you can use and should use psychological therapy, but let's face it, it never goes away so if you are 5'11 or 5'6 there is people who can legit suffer from it.

Hope it helps someone..
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #116 on: October 19, 2023, 06:26:55 PM »

Have you done the procedure yourself? And the dating part is the core essence for our existence, to procreate. Without the ability to partner a man suffers serious quality of life issues.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #117 on: October 19, 2023, 07:07:27 PM »

Well I dont know sxxa, my intuition and observation tells me that attractive people have it easier. You can screw up more without serious repercussions, you have access to things, bad feelings go away easier. Humans are ultimately present moment based, and the only thing you have when evaluating a person in the present moment, is the visage of that person.
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« Reply #118 on: October 19, 2023, 07:47:13 PM »

I would like to give my 2 cents after reading the whole convo.

1. YOU SHOULD NEVER UNDERGO THE PROCEDURE FOR DATING REASONS

Read carefully, you need to understand the reason you are going to do this is FOR YOU, I know most would believe that increasing its own height somehow gives you a instant "girl magnet"; hear me out IT DOES NOT. This procedure is difficult, painful, expensive, and stressful if you make your mind on the dating basis you won't be mentally prepared for it. You need to be able to understand that even though height is a real and important factor to boost your overall confidence it can not be the foundation for this surgery. Separate the concepts, I would not ever deny that girls prefer taller men, but the point is you need to erase from your mind this as the reason for your procedure, you will regret it.

2. BODY DYSMORPHIA IS REAL AT ANY HEIGHT

There is this misconception that if you are above average you should be ok and accept yourself as you are. It does not work like that the pressure you feel when you are not as you internally feel you should be can be overwhelming.. Im talking about people (like me) who feel unbearable psycological pain for not been taller enough. And yes, you can use and should use psychological therapy, but let's face it, it never goes away so if you are 5'11 or 5'6 there is people who can legit suffer from it.

Hope it helps someone..

I completely agree with you. The last time I was insulted because I'm over 5'11, it felt like I had no legitimacy, which I can understand. We do things primarily for ourselves before considering others. It's similar to how we have to like our own clothes before worrying about how others perceive our outfits.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #119 on: October 20, 2023, 03:46:47 AM »

I would like to give my 2 cents after reading the whole convo.

1. YOU SHOULD NEVER UNDERGO THE PROCEDURE FOR DATING REASONS

Read carefully, you need to understand the reason you are going to do this is FOR YOU, I know most would believe that increasing its own height somehow gives you a instant "girl magnet"; hear me out IT DOES NOT. This procedure is difficult, painful, expensive, and stressful if you make your mind on the dating basis you won't be mentally prepared for it. You need to be able to understand that even though height is a real and important factor to boost your overall confidence it can not be the foundation for this surgery. Separate the concepts, I would not ever deny that girls prefer taller men, but the point is you need to erase from your mind this as the reason for your procedure, you will regret it.

2. BODY DYSMORPHIA IS REAL AT ANY HEIGHT

There is this misconception that if you are above average you should be ok and accept yourself as you are. It does not work like that the pressure you feel when you are not as you internally feel you should be can be overwhelming.. Im talking about people (like me) who feel unbearable psycological pain for not been taller enough. And yes, you can use and should use psychological therapy, but let's face it, it never goes away so if you are 5'11 or 5'6 there is people who can legit suffer from it.

Hope it helps someone..

Let's just disregard the women / dating aspects to wanting to get LL done as a short man in a society that makes it extremely challenging for short men to try and succeed in. Many average height and tall dudes love to larp that "its all about confidence", and "As a 6'1 guy I can tell you that being tall isn't all that..."

Look at this random scientific study, its quite brutal.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1570677X11001523

Using an Italian survey, we investigate the effect of height on individual happiness. We find that a large part of the effect of height on well-being is driven by a positive correlation between height and economic and health conditions. However, for young men the effect of height on happiness persists even after controlling for these variables, implying that height is associated with some psycho-social direct effects on well-being. Consistent with this hypothesis, we find that men care not only about their own height but also about the height of others in their reference group. Well-being is greater for individuals who are taller than other men in their reference group. Results are robust to different definitions of reference group and controlling for a number of other reference group characteristics.

Highlights

>We investigate the association between height and individual subjective well-being in Italy.

>We find that height is positively associated with the well-being of 18-42 years old males.

>We find a relative height effect for young males.

>These results possibly suggest a self-esteem or social dominance effect of height on well-being.

Once you start reading beyond the abstract it gets so much worse:

>Being tall is associated with a number of advantages. Tall people (excluding the extremely tall) are more likely to have a long term partner and to have children (Nettle, 2002a, Nettle, 2002b); they attain higher levels of education (Magnusson et al., 2006) and receive higher wages than shorter people, even after controlling for the level of education acquired, the type of job performed (Persico et al., 2004, Herpin, 2005, Heineck, 2006, Case and Paxson, 2008, Hubler, 2009, Cinnirella et al., 2011) and irrespective of the physical strenuousness of the job (Bockerman et al., 2010). In addition, they have more chance of playing sports at a professional level or becoming supermodels (Saint Onge et al., 2008).1 Height seems to have a strong inverse association with suicide risk (Magnusson et al., 2005) and it is also positively associated with life expectancy (Koch, 2011). All these findings together seem to indicate that there is more chance of tall people enjoying a better life. This is confirmed by some empirical papers that find a positive correlation between height and subjective well-being (Keyes, 1980, Cohen, 2009, Rees et al., 2009, Deaton and Arora, 2009, Denny, 2010). As height is also associated with some costs, for example expenses for special clothes, high ceiling homes, the relationship between height and well-being is probably an inverse U.

Many larps online say you don't need LL as a short man, and to "just be confident bro", as if heightism was only relevant in the world of dating. The unfortunate truth is being a very short man is playing life on ultra hard mode, everything you do, everything you want in life, your height overshadows you and permeates it all. Many will say we are simply insecure for wanting this surgery and to just compensate on other aspects to get more women. The honest truth is heightism goes far beyond that, as I'm sure many of us can attest to. In my opinion, this is potentially the truly life changing, game changing, transformation that can benefit in every aspect of life especially if they are in the very short 5'4 - 5'6 category.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #120 on: October 20, 2023, 05:57:20 AM »

Since everyone is giving their take, here's mine:
5'9" is good in many countries. If you aren't in a country with higher average height, all you need may be shoes with thicker soles, better posture, daily stretching and daily glucosamine to get close to 6'.

The original poster didn't state their reason for wanting 6'2". Unless you're in a higher average height country or there's another really good reason to consider CLL, then it's probably not worth it to do at 5'9" starting height.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #121 on: October 20, 2023, 11:50:26 AM »

Being taller is a massive boost to your appearance whether you are ugly or handsome. That being said, I think you shouldn't do this if only reason is just to get girls (Though, you will get girls if you do the surgery, I am not denying that). I think a valid reason would be if the person has a height dysphoria like me. I can never take off my shoes in the public. Furthermore, I always try to walk on my tippy toes when I wear shoes without insoles. It is so stressful. Believe me it is a real mental disease. I think I got height dysphoria due to getting picked on in middle school (I am 32 now) for having short legs and a big head. Anyways, the funny thing is most people who have height dysphoria get cured after the surgery.
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Re: Is it worth it at 5’9
« Reply #122 on: October 21, 2023, 12:30:56 PM »

Have you done the procedure yourself? And the dating part is the core essence for our existence, to procreate. Without the ability to partner a man suffers serious quality of life issues.

I have not yet.. I understand your point, but I would still argue you need a better mindset to endure the surgery. I'm not saying it can not serves as motivation, but you will need more than motivation to succeed in this procedure.
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« Reply #123 on: October 21, 2023, 12:40:03 PM »

Well I dont know sxxa, my intuition and observation tells me that attractive people have it easier. You can screw up more without serious repercussions, you have access to things, bad feelings go away easier. Humans are ultimately present moment based, and the only thing you have when evaluating a person in the present moment, is the visage of that person.

And that's completely true. I won't deny it, but you will not become instantly more attractive solely based on your height increase. There are a lot more factors, height is just ONE of them. Also, think about this, your height limits. Let's say you are 5'6" and you could potentially increase to 5'9" that's still average, and I'm saying is; this procedure needs a lot more than a motivation based on dating. I do understand the negative impact of being a short man and it's relation with women, but it can't be the only reason to undergo this. IMO
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