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[Cain1234]

Your muscle will never be explosive again after 10cm.

There is do much more to it than just bones and muscles.

It's frightening to see individuals totaly believe that 10cm is easy or that they wiLL Forumully recover. Christ!!

Being stronger after LL doesn't say more than the actual person can push more weights at the gym. Anyone can do that but jumping high or doing backflips is something different which he will never be able to do again.

To kick fast is also impossible after LL or to do a spinning round kick bc your longer leg breaks up the speed when you're spinning.

Not that you need to be able to do this, but 10cm is devastating for your body. It will also look very weird.

Your assumptions are based on what? Present us some references or source, instead of acting as a self-proclaimed specialist/orthopedic in this topic. Don't  be all negative and a prick just because you failed your miserably LL journey.

It's true proportion might be out of balance. Regarding lengthening 10 cm, many doctors advocate against it. But surely its possible as I have been heard several people successfully doing it. there are no criteria to be fulfilled, you just have to gamble and hope your body can take the hit. What can matter is age, soft tissue attachment, level of physio training and what method the clinician used. Every persons anatomy is unique and unlike others. The more lengthening the more risk of complication.

[Body Builder]

Your assumptions are based on what? Present us some references or source, instead of acting as a self-proclaimed specialist/orthopedic in this topic. Don't  be all negative and a prick just because you failed your miserably LL journey.

It's true proportion might be out of balance. Regarding lengthening 10 cm, many doctors advocate against it. But surely its possible as I have been heard several people successfully doing it. there are no criteria to be fulfilled, you just have to gamble and hope your body can take the hit. What can matter is age, soft tissue attachment, level of physio training and what method the clinician used. Every persons anatomy is unique and unlike others. The more lengthening the more risk of complication.

Do 10cm on tibiaz and if you can even walk normally then you should consider yourself truly lucky.

If you lengthen so much you should do a massive atl to correct your equinus which means you forget anything else except from slow and unstable walking.
To make it even wirse the biomechanics of your leg will be so off that even walking could be hard.
And all these without complications like malunioms etc.

No respectable doctor will let you lengthen anything more than 7-8 (which is very much) cm in tibias.
If you are not a "prick and negative" you could do it and write your experience to us.

[Cain1234]

@body builder

Well, I certainly have no reason to do it, but there are those who have done it successfully.  You seem not to anderstand the context of my post.

Duh, didn't I write that doctors won't recommend it? Of course there can be major complications even if you do 5 cm but chances are less of course.

You seem ignorant and negative just as Sweden. Even a retard knows that practicing martial arts post LL is plain stupidity, due to altered biomechanics. Yes! 10 cm Is way out of line but for some it's not impossible.

[Body Builder]

@body builder

Well, I certainly have no reason to do it, but there are those who have done it successfully.  You seem not to anderstand the context of my post.

Duh, didn't I write that doctors won't recommend it? Of course there can be major complications even if you do 5 cm but chances are less of course.

You seem ignorant and negative just as Sweden. Even a retard knows that practicing martial arts post LL is plain stupidity, due to altered biomechanics. Yes! 10 cm Is way out of line but for some it's not impossible.

Could you tell me 1 that have done it successfully?
I am a veteral LL'er like Sweden and know how difficult is to do anything more than 7cm. 10 cm is insane to being able to function normally, even walk normally will be hard.

So no, it is not impossible, even 12 cm are possible.
Impossible will be to function normally after that.
And me,Sweden and any other tibia's veteran know much better about what their talking about compared to a newbie like you.

[Bander72]

You revive a 2 yeard old thread for what exactly? If you can do it then go for it. Or if its not even your goal to do this amount then I dont see why you care if people think its doable or not. Here is a post from a diary of Dr. Barinov that shows the issues of pushing yourself to those limitis.

Two patients were lengthening at the clinic and the doctor told them to stop at 6cm. The doctor’s would not treat them if they continued to lengthen and even took away the lengthening keys. The patients left the clinic, got an apartment nearby and went to the hardware store and bought a spanner so that they could turn the screws themselves and continue lengthening without any medical supervision. They lengthened to 11cm and 12cm respectively on their tibias. They then returned to the clinic weeks later and expected the doctor’s to correct what had clearly gone wrong. They could barely move! They became severely depressed but the doctor’s still took care of them as best they could.

[Cain1234]

Could you tell me 1 that have done it successfully?
I am a veteral LL'er like Sweden and know how difficult is to do anything more than 7cm. 10 cm is insane to being able to function normally, even walk normally will be hard.

So no, it is not impossible, even 12 cm are possible.
Impossible will be to function normally after that.
And me,Sweden and any other tibia's veteran know much better about what their talking about compared to a newbie like you.

Yes, I know but I cannot disclose their identities. You just have to take my word for it.

With all due respect just because you have posted some 500+ Post doesn't make you a veteran or somehow entitled physician in this field. I find you too be an extremely stubborn person. I'm just saying to stop with these negativity especially remarks by "sweden"

LL surgery is not easy and beyond 7 Cm is hard but not impossible. You need to take in consideration the clinician performing it, bone anatomy/density, muscular/tendon attachments, hormone levels, normal CBC etc. Every person is unique.

Disagree, of course you cannot practice taekwando or martial arts shortly after LL. Thats just stupid. Besides I've read that Sweden had some ankle injury which surely can effect the outcome. I've also read people walking shortly after surgery or not following doctors advice during lengthening.

[Cain1234]

You revive a 2 yeard old thread for what exactly? If you can do it then go for it. Or if its not even your goal to do this amount then I dont see why you care if people think its doable or not. Here is a post from a diary of Dr. Barinov that shows the issues of pushing yourself to those limitis.

Two patients were lengthening at the clinic and the doctor told them to stop at 6cm. The doctor’s would not treat them if they continued to lengthen and even took away the lengthening keys. The patients left the clinic, got an apartment nearby and went to the hardware store and bought a spanner so that they could turn the screws themselves and continue lengthening without any medical supervision. They lengthened to 11cm and 12cm respectively on their tibias. They then returned to the clinic weeks later and expected the doctor’s to correct what had clearly gone wrong. They could barely move! They became severely depressed but the doctor’s still took care of them as best they could.

This topic highlights 10 cm not 11 or 12 cm. besides what do we know about this Clinician and how was the medical conditions of these patients? Many things are lacking in your post. However, we can agree that 11-12 cm is to much for tibia.

[Body Builder]

Yes, I know but I cannot disclose their identities. You just have to take my word for it.

With all due respect just because you have posted some 500+ Post doesn't make you a veteran or somehow entitled physician in this field. I find you too be an extremely stubborn person. I'm just saying to stop with these negativity especially remarks by "sweden"

LL surgery is not easy and beyond 7 Cm is hard but not impossible. You need to take in consideration the clinician performing it, bone anatomy/density, muscular/tendon attachments, hormone levels, normal CBC etc. Every person is unique.

Disagree, of course you cannot practice taekwando or martial arts shortly after LL. Thats just stupid. Besides I've read that Sweden had some ankle injury which surely can effect the outcome. I've also read people walking shortly after surgery or not following doctors advice during lengthening.

I am a veteran not because I have a number of posts here but because I did LL and maybe before any other active member here.
Have you done LL? Because you speak with disrespect for people who know about LL because they have done it.
So who are you to know more than me or any other veteran about what is possible or not?

[Bander72]

This topic highlights 10 cm not 11 or 12 cm. besides what do we know about this Clinician and how was the medical conditions of these patients? Many things are lacking in your post. However, we can agree that 11-12 cm is too much for the tibia.

Having done 10 instead of 11 or 12 would not have made a difference when they already went and did a ridiculous amount. What exactly makes 10 cm not too much? They were initially in the clinic and had almost daily visits from the doctor. You bring up that it is possible and that's true but why would go against the doctor's orders. Even a quack doctor from India will know far more about the procedure and when you should shop. There is a reason why the majority of doctors never recommend to this ridiculous amount of 10 cm in surgery. So no one can tell someone that they have to lengthen less but they can certainly advise them to not take these extra risk when they can do another surgery down the line. And bodybuilder is a veteran for actually having done the surgery and has shared the complications he has faced including having to get Atl surgery to fix his issues. He advices against this amount because he can say from firsthand expirience how even at 7 cm he suffered alot of complications let alone if he had pushed to 10 cm.

[Body Builder]

With 10cm lengthening it is impossible to avoid atl surgery which decreases your athletic capabilities much more than LL itself.
Only that, without the change in biomechanics etc is enough to never consider these amounts of lengthening.

[Cain1234]

With 10cm lengthening it is impossible to avoid atl surgery which decreases your athletic capabilities much more than LL itself.
Only that, without the change in biomechanics etc is enough to never consider these amounts of lengthening.

Please, pay attention to my post and read it again. I've said you have to take in consideration muscular and tendon attachment. This is just tiny aspect as there are many things than can go wrong.

Thousands of people are performing LL annually. It all depends on your anatomical features, clinician, age etc whether u can go for 10 or not.

Bodybuilder, you cannot speak on behalf of Others just because yours and swedens LL had a bad outcome.

[Body Builder]

Please, pay attention to my post and read it again. I've said you have to take in consideration muscular and tendon attachment. This is just tiny aspect as there are many things than can go wrong. Thousands of people are propably performing
LL annually. It all depend on your anatomical features, clinician, age etc whether u can go for 10 or not.

Bodybuilder you cannot speak on behalf of Others just because yours and swedens LL had a bad outcome.

I had a mediocre outcome which will be better than average after my last fix surgery which seems to work good.
But regardless of that, I don't know anyone who did 10cm and had a good outcome.
And you can't speak of behalf of noone as you haven't even done LL.
Simple as that.

You don't have to take into consideration anything.
10cm in tibias for 99,99 % of people will be a suicide.

[Christopherbulder]

10 CM IN 1 TIME is very difficult
after is nescessary lengthening femur because you tibia is very very long
i remenber the patient of docteur guichet 6 cm in tibia the disproportion is real the femur very short imagine 10 cm is nescesary femur 8 cm after minimum

[Christopherbulder]

bodybuilder is nice persone 6 CM MAYBY 7cm in tibia is maximum
for the femur maximun is 7.5 - 8 cm very maximum

[Dhdhdjuru]

Body Builder does the bone not fully heal in time wether its 10cm you added in the tibia or 7cm.

The way I always thought it worked was that the bone (no matter how much the lenghthening) fully healed after some time. Is this not the case?
I'm not talking about proportions but the bone itself.

[Body Builder]

Body Builder does the bone not fully heal in time wether its 10cm you added in the tibia or 7cm.

The way I always thought it worked was that the bone (no matter how much the lenghthening) fully healed after some time. Is this not the case?
I'm not talking about proportions but the bone itself.

Bone heals fully.
But the change in biomechanics is big and the longer you lengthen the more the difference and the body can't adapt.
So with 10cm in femurs or even more in tibias I can guarantee that noone can even walk with a completely normal gait after LL and he could never run fast again.
10cm are huge in one segment, everything more than 7-8 cm is suicidal.

[Dhdhdjuru]

9cm in femur and tibia? i just want that 6feet.

[Body Builder]

You lived as 1.65 which is very short for a man and you are so vain to not be ok with an excellent height like 5.10-5.10,5 which would change your life dramatically but you want to ruin your body for achieving 6ft.
Your legs your decisions. Good luck to you.

[Sweden]

This is one crazy sick thread. So sad to see these people writing here on LL Forum.

You should really listen to me or Body Builder.

I can assure you that I can do more today than most people in here ever could in their entire life in sports.
That doesn’t mean I recovered back to 100%.

[peanutbutterpizza]

I don't know about 10cm, but 7.5cm didn't affect my lower body strength.  In fact I could lift more after the surgery than I could before.

Do you still lift weights? What lower body lifts do you do? I'do love to see your proportions. Even just photos of your legs would be great