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[palm_trees]

I've seen many people assume that they would never return to 100% athleticism post LL surgery. I am trying to better wrap my head around this and please consider my own analysis of the matter. Hopefully many of you who have gone through the surgery can offer their opinion.

My biggest gripe is that most of us are not "elite" athletes for our respective sport at the highest levels (college level, olympic, professional), instead many of us were quite athletic and high performance compared to our peers. I believe it is from this amateur (but fun) perspective in which many of us ask whether or not we can get back to "100%" athleticism post surgery.

To be at "100%" athleticism means to regain the highest potential your body could perform with external resources professional sportsmen would use today -> diet/ nutrition regimen dialed in, exercise/ professional trainers dialed in, sleep cycles dialed in, + other supplements to attain the highest physical level your body has the potential to be in to get to "100%" potential athleticism.

Given that most if not all of us did not have all these external resources to even know what our elite athletic potential was before, wouldn't it make sense that if we dedicated more focus on dialing in these factors post surgery we could quite easily mean get back to our former level, if not even more so if we are both motivated, had a good doctor, good recovery, etc?

Obviously if you were an elite olympic athlete, with all external resources and regimens dialed in, you will not be back to your 100% after this no matter what. But honestly, as amateurs is it really misguided to say that you have the potential to regain your former ability in agility, strength, balance, etc. and even beyond if you are focused on doing even more than what you did before surgery to get to a higher athletic potential? Let's say after surgery you have more time, drive, and resources to dedicate gaining ability back to the sport you love to do. Wouldn't it make sense that you should be able to regain former functionality and maybe even more so?

I'm not an elite athlete trying to win gold, nor am I professional athlete. I am however athletic, and regarded as so by my peers. I love lifting weights with a nice physique, I love to surf 4-5 times a week, and I love to dance (more freestyle at festivals) as I have great rhythm, coordination, and strength (I would hope to regain this at the same level post surgery). I also would like to play soccer again like I did in high school and be able to at least get back to my former level (not elite but competitive fun with my peers, think varsity level). I would also like to do BJJ (brazilian jiu jits) again as a blue belt, and hope to regain my former abilities same as before.

Would it be too naive to assume that I would not be able to do any of these as well as before forever despite my plan to further dial in the resources needed get back my former agility, strength, balance, etc or even beyond my former abilities?

Would love to hear from those that were athletic before their surgeries, specifically those who were determined to regain athletic function. How are you holding up?

I just turned 29, and as a 5'4 man I am thinking of gaining 3 inches from LL (around 8 cm??). Athletic function and the ability to walk/ run normally (without looking weird), and gaining former athletic ability + even more so is important to me and one of the biggest reasons why I have held back. At the same time, my world would absolutely change for the better with new height, and believe it will only benefit all aspects of my life. Please give me some insight or encouragement, thank you all much love!

[oklama]

I've seen many people assume that they would never return to 100% athleticism post LL surgery. I am trying to better wrap my head around this and please consider my own analysis of the matter. Hopefully many of you who have gone through the surgery can offer their opinion.

My biggest gripe is that most of us are not "elite" athletes for our respective sport at the highest levels (college level, olympic, professional), instead many of us were quite athletic and high performance compared to our peers. I believe it is from this amateur (but fun) perspective in which many of us ask whether or not we can get back to "100%" athleticism post surgery.

To be at "100%" athleticism means to regain the highest potential your body could perform with external resources professional sportsmen would use today -> diet/ nutrition regimen dialed in, exercise/ professional trainers dialed in, sleep cycles dialed in, + other supplements to attain the highest physical level your body has the potential to be in to get to "100%" potential athleticism.

Given that most if not all of us did not have all these external resources to even know what our elite athletic potential was before, wouldn't it make sense that if we dedicated more focus on dialing in these factors post surgery we could quite easily mean get back to our former level, if not even more so if we are both motivated, had a good doctor, good recovery, etc?

Obviously if you were an elite olympic athlete, with all external resources and regimens dialed in, you will not be back to your 100% after this no matter what. But honestly, as amateurs is it really misguided to say that you have the potential to regain your former ability in agility, strength, balance, etc. and even beyond if you are focused on doing even more than what you did before surgery to get to a higher athletic potential? Let's say after surgery you have more time, drive, and resources to dedicate gaining ability back to the sport you love to do. Wouldn't it make sense that you should be able to regain former functionality and maybe even more so?

I'm not an elite athlete trying to win gold, nor am I professional athlete. I am however athletic, and regarded as so by my peers. I love lifting weights with a nice physique, I love to surf 4-5 times a week, and I love to dance (more freestyle at festivals) as I have great rhythm, coordination, and strength (I would hope to regain this at the same level post surgery). I also would like to play soccer again like I did in high school and be able to at least get back to my former level (not elite but competitive fun with my peers, think varsity level). I would also like to do BJJ (brazilian jiu jits) again as a blue belt, and hope to regain my former abilities same as before.

Would it be too naive to assume that I would not be able to do any of these as well as before forever despite my plan to further dial in the resources needed get back my former agility, strength, balance, etc or even beyond my former abilities?

Would love to hear from those that were athletic before their surgeries, specifically those who were determined to regain athletic function. How are you holding up?

I just turned 29, and as a 5'4 man I am thinking of gaining 3 inches from LL (around 8 cm??). Athletic function and the ability to walk/ run normally (without looking weird), and gaining former athletic ability + even more so is important to me and one of the biggest reasons why I have held back. At the same time, my world would absolutely change for the better with new height, and believe it will only benefit all aspects of my life. Please give me some insight or encouragement, thank you all much love!

ive not had surgery, but ive studied this forum for about a year now and I can tell you this.

you want to walk and run? okay sure there no reason you can't just dont lengthen over 8 in femurs (im pretty sure you can go to like 11 but its just stupid and risky, and will likely exponentially effect your ability) and dont go to India or Turkey.

you want 100%? some claim its possible, personally I believe there will definitely be a reduction in your maximum potential, but unless your pursuing a career in sports, its not something to worry about.

It will take up to 2 years before you are back to what you used to be before but it will be about 6-8 months before you are functionally normal

[we.live.once]

I believe it's from person to person.
Some people will never be able to do all again.
Some people may use longer time till they can do what they could do

I have lengthened 6cm and stopped lengthening 1 month ago.
From my situation, I believe I will be able to do everything like before the surgery, maybe it will take 1 or 2 years

[Werewolf]

It depends on whether you had surgery from the femur or tibia or both, and how many cm you've grown. If everything goes well, you just won't be the same professionally. You can be a professional swimmer, slowing down for even 5 seconds after surgery will distract you from being a professional.

[Medium Drink Of Water]

For me the issue is biomechanical.  I will never have the same balance and agility than I did when my tibias were 3 inches shorter.

[oklama]

For me the issue is biomechanical.  I will never have the same balance and agility than I did when my tibias were 3 inches shorter.

I wonder is it a ratio issue or an absolute size issue? I assume ratio

[Medium Drink Of Water]

Yeah, ratio mostly.  Although a stretched out muscle will never be as good as one naturally that size.

[jessedev]

The problem is the sudden shift in your ratio and changes to your muscles, tendons and nerves.

You can be a amateur or even elite with all the best resources in the world, PEDs, Peptides, etc to maximize recovery, best PT, etc, you will 100% never reach your full potential that you could have before LL.

Like it or not but LL has a trade-off, especially the more you lengthen.



Having to re-learn everything from a previous point is way way harder than doing it from 0.

Imagine holding a pen a certain way since you were a kid and writing it that way for 10-30+ years. All of a sudden your fingers grew and now you need to learn how to do it differently, you will never go back to the same writing calligraphy.


Also, let me ask you this, how important is this "athleticism" to you? if you could walk normally, run normally, will it really bother you?

Personally I plan to do LL and initially I feared that it would destroy my squat numbers that I worked so hard for over 5+ years with a lot of injuries, setbacks etc but then I realized,

look good in the gym for the 1-2 hours I'm training legs VS look good all the time outside by being 5-6 cm taller.


I would pick being taller any-day. No one can look at my legs while I'm wearing pants and tell that I can squat a ton and no one gives a fk. Being taller is always better than some short athletic guy. So I guess think about how much athleticism matters to you which btw, is something everyone loses as they grow old ( unless you're juicing hard and maintaining peak test levels ) vs looking taller for the rest of your life.

[uponly]

If you're a professional athlete whose income/livelihood depends on having peak athleticism all the time you wouldn't do the surgery. No professional athlete will go out of their way to injure themselves in this matter with a year plus recovery time overall just for the same bone density.

If you're a hobbyist athlete, it's a tradeoff, like many have said here. I play two sports and am fairly competitive in one (certainly not world class), but enough to do well. I'm prepared for the very likely outcome that I won't be near the same level (simple lack of exercise and sport-specific training for a year will do that on its own).

But - I'm gaining something invaluable by doing this in return. So I'll focus on staying in the best shape I can, take it easier, compete at a lower level, whatever. Maybe I'll find a new athletic hobby or work towards a better physique. Who knows.

End of day, it's whatever matters most to you. You won't have both. Also, your physical prowess naturally decreases with age - nothing any of us can do about that. So at the end of the day, I'd rather fix my height neurosis for the rest of my life than continue to compete at mid-level in a sport that I have no chance making a national Olympic qualifier for and that I'd age out of my natural athletic abilities at in 5-10 years anyway.