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[shortisnotfun]

Did my second lengthening.

Does anyone know why it doesn't hurt to lengthen my left leg? I do it and there's no pain at all. But I lengthened my right leg and it hurts? There's no other way to describe it.

[QuarkSoup]

Did my second lengthening.

Does anyone know why it doesn't hurt to lengthen my left leg? I do it and there's no pain at all. But I lengthened my right leg and it hurts? There's no other way to describe it.

You don't lenthen too much right? Make sure you understood the instructions properly because I don't think anyone can feel anything with 0.025cm increment.

[shortisnotfun]

You don't lenthen too much right? Make sure you understood the instructions properly because I don't think anyone can feel anything with 0.025cm increment.

Yeah, it's exactly 0.25mm. But I still feel pain in my right leg when lengthening, nothing in my left leg.

[QuarkSoup]

This is like saying watch out if you eat too much you will loose weight. Weight bearing is only beneficial for recovery. There is no way how active training and pulling blood to the fracture site is bad for bone healing haha Makes no sense whatsoever.

With other weightbearing nails there is rarely ever an issue with bone healing in femur so it might be a stryde/tibia related problem but definitely not weightbearing.

"definetely not weightbearing" I think we should listen to Dr. Assayag. If the device takes all the force and leaves nothing to the bone, the bone will have trouble healing. This is why Dr. Assayag doesnt like stryde. He explains it beautifully at 48:50 during interview with cyborg4life. I dont know why but the video isnt shown up here.

[wayupnorth]

Awesome. thank you for the information !

[RealLostSoul]

"definetely not weightbearing" I think we should listen to Dr. Assayag. If the device takes all the force and leaves nothing to the bone, the bone will have trouble healing. This is why Dr. Assayag doesnt like stryde. He explains it beautifully at 48:50 during interview with cyborg4life. I dont know why but the video isnt shown up here.

He is the only Doctor saying that. Ask Paley he tells you the opposite. I also strongly believe the opposite, from all the cases I have seen. I strongly believes sitting around with non weightbearing is terrible for the recovery. Especially bigger lengthenings than 5cm.

[shortisnotfun]

I feel 2/10 pain now. It just feels like someone really fat is sitting on my tibias when I lay down in bed.

[shortisnotfun]

Pain increased to 4/10 after walking a little bit.

[shortisnotfun]

Put on clothes on. Holy  , just picking up my leg to put shorts on gave me excruciating pain. I had to yell to get it on. Also got another set of x-rays done.

[trcelkob]

He is the only Doctor saying that. Ask Paley he tells you the opposite. I also strongly believe the opposite, from all the cases I have seen. I strongly believes sitting around with non weightbearing is terrible for the recovery. Especially bigger lengthenings than 5cm.

but why did assayag say this, he is supposed to be knowledgeable isnt he

[shortisnotfun]

but why did assayag say this, he is supposed to be knowledgeable isnt he

Different doctors can have different opinions I guess.

[Kanye Western]

How much have you lengthened now?

[shortisnotfun]

My right leg hurts near my shin after I lengthen. It's like 7/10 pain pretty much stops me dead in my tracks and makes me wanna yell out to god. I've lengthen 0.05mm+ 0.05mm. So 1mm.

[Kanye Western]

Do you have any regrets doing the LON method? If you were financially, in a better position would you have proceeded with the internal method?

[shortisnotfun]

Do you have any regrets doing the LON method? If you were financially, in a better position would you have proceeded with the internal method?

Probably, yeah. LON looks scary and I can't shower so I smell like   and my hair smells like  .

[RealLostSoul]

but why did assayag say this, he is supposed to be knowledgeable isnt he

I don‘t have the time to watch this long interview now,
I am just assuming this is taken out of context by you guys.
I have spoken to different doctors and the consensus is and was that weightbearing is a huge difference for the better.
I could not ever do this without weightbearing. If I will ever do tibia, I will rather save up money for more years than choose a non weightbearing option.
That‘s the last thing I am saying about this now.

Ps: why did you make a new account to reply XD?

[QuarkSoup]

I don‘t have the time to watch this long interview now,
I am just assuming this is taken out of context by you guys.
I have spoken to different doctors and the consensus is and was that weightbearing is a huge difference for the better.
I could not ever do this without weightbearing. If I will ever do tibia, I will rather save up money for more years than choose a non weightbearing option.
That‘s the last thing I am saying about this now.

Ps: why did you make a new account to reply XD?

All doctors would say the samething because this is how bones form they react to forces applied upon them. If your bones doesnt feel any force you might as well lie all day long samething. Precise is not a full weight bearing nail this is why patients have amazing bone healing while almost all stryde patients experienced non union. Also you don't need to lie down all day long with precise you can walk. Here Jonathan from Institute of Human Anatomy explains it. Video's name is How your bones changes with exercise

[shortisnotfun]

I'm discharged now, and in the hotel. The hospital ambulance people here drive crazy lol. I'm sitting here, I just spoke to the physiotherapist Fatma. She seems nice and helpful. I still have a lot of pain. The exact muscle is the tibialis anterior muscle I'm pretty sure. That shiz fking hurts.

[RealLostSoul]

All doctors would say the samething because this is how bones form they react to forces applied upon them. If your bones doesnt feel any force you might as well lie all day long samething. Precise is not a full weight bearing nail this is why patients have amazing bone healing while almost all stryde patients experienced non union. Also you don't need to lie down all day long with precise you can walk. Here Jonathan from Institute of Human Anatomy explains it. Video's name is How your bones changes with exercise

This is just complete bs. Sry but no. Just no. With all due respect. Stop spreading such misinformation.

With precice you can‘t weightbear so you sit and lie around. Your muscles atrophy much more, are harder to stretch and always in a shortened position while sitting in a wheelchair.
That’s the first thing. The second thing is for bone healing it‘s important to have enough nutrients / blood being transported to the fracture site. This is why femur heals quicker (more proximal equals more blood supply in that area).
This is stimulated by walking around/biking/training etc.
Next, wtf “almost all stryde patients experience non union”. Wtf?. All the doctors used stryde and it was the superior nail in all aspects. The reason it got pulled back is corrosion, not nonunion. You just made that up.
I know nobody out of many years of research and doing it myself. Seeing patients. That had nonunion because of weightbearing in femur. The only people that had it were having severe complications like deep bone infection, runaway nail, etc.

But hey at least you can stand up with precice and break some screws, bend the nail or rebreak your bones

Also, the video you send me is entirely out of context and has nothing to do with LL. Even if you were to connect bone remodeling over a long term course with immediate fracture healing… it doesn’t make sense at all

[shortisnotfun]

The first couple of days, it's definitely strange because you can feel your bone moving around in your legs. Like even if you lightly touch the fixator, you will have an uncomfortable feeling in your legs from it, like a vibration. Kinda why I hate LON. Maybe I'm just a pussy.

[shortisnotfun]

You must have a strong upper body for this process btw. Make sure your upper body and arms are atleast strong enough to pick your whole body weight up by itself. I used to lift and do weights and stuff so I don't have too much of a problem.

[booklecrt]

"my right shin hurts"
"my pain is 2/10 now"
"my pain is 4/10 now"
"i just took a dump"

shortisnotfun is an elite postmaxxer, by end of his LL he will have 8500 posts, GO GO GO SHORT IS NOT FUN YOU GOT THIS

[shortisnotfun]

"my right shin hurts"
"my pain is 2/10 now"
"my pain is 4/10 now"
"i just took a dump"

shortisnotfun is an elite postmaxxer, by end of his LL he will have 8500 posts, GO GO GO SHORT IS NOT FUN YOU GOT THIS

Lol! I'm trying to be as descriptive as possible at the exact moment I feel those pains. Hopefully it's not too annoying or anything.

I just completed another lengthening. Having the same right leg issue where I get a very sharp pain in my tibialis anterior muscle when completing it. Holy   it sends you to heaven.

[OzBoy39]

From the “height” of my older self and my older age, let me try to speculate what is possibly going on here.

-in the last few months we’ve seen an influx of Gnail and Betzbone patients who have practically debunked the older rationale that clicking was an atrocious experience only comparable to torture.

-Together with that we also realised through the same patients that the Greece and Germany options seem to be quite pleasant and that both teams there are quite competent.

-Stride ain’t coming back anytime soon and ita replacement is looking behind schedule as well.

-new prospective patients (from the US too) are starting to move to destinations where they offer weight bearing nails.

-these ain’t anymore 3rd world destinations that people are scared of. And prices and packages are more affordable.

-somebody loosing revenue

-somebody starting to release the hounds to try and run a scaremongering campaign on the people of this forum.

May not be this case, but every time you follow the money, you always get somewhere very interesting.

[QuarkSoup]

Lol! I'm trying to be as descriptive as possible at the exact moment I feel those pains. Hopefully it's not too annoying or anything.

I just completed another lengthening. Having the same right leg issue where I get a very sharp pain in my tibialis anterior muscle when completing it. Holy   it sends you to heaven.

Did you talk about this pain with your doctor? I havent done tibia but I really think noone can feel anything while lenghtening merely 0.025cm. Maybe the pain comes from the torque you apply to the device but not from the result of lenghtening itself?

[wayupnorth]

Do they have only one physiotherapist ? Everytime i watch their videos, they always show only Fatma

[shortisnotfun]

Do they have only one physiotherapist ? Everytime i watch their videos, they always show only Fatma

No they have a couple more.

[shortisnotfun]

Did you talk about this pain with your doctor? I havent done tibia but I really think noone can feel anything while lenghtening merely 0.025cm. Maybe the pain comes from the torque you apply to the device but not from the result of lenghtening itself?

Yeah and I won't shut up about it until it goes away.

[shortisnotfun]

Just had my first physiotherapy session. I was crying and yelling but at the end of it I was really happy because a lot of my pain was gone.

[shortisnotfun]

Seems like the lengthening pain I had in my shins with the tibialis anterior muscle went away after physiotherapy.

[throwaway5]

How often will you be xrayed? Yurttas seems like the best in Turkey right now, but how meticulous is he with alignment?