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[Kanye Western]

I was curious after seeing his video a few years ago on how he did the surgery to prolong his modelling career.

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This is what he said to me;

Hello, I usually no longer answer questions about my leg lengthening. However, I would like to make an exception: the whole lengthening process is very hard, painful and expensive. It is important that you work a lot yourself by doing stretching and stabilization exercises - preferably before the procedure and afterwards for life. Then you will reach a good level of training a few months after the metal removal. Although you are in the best hands with Prof. Betz, I would not recommend the surgery. Ultimately, however, everyone has to decide for themselves why they want to take on this procedure.

In the first few months, the gait pattern is significantly restricted. However, with the appropriate training and adequate therapy, it gets much better. I no longer have any restrictions.


Yes, I am completely healthy and fit again. But I still stretch and train regularly and have been a great contributor from the start. It was really a very hard path that only very few can walk. Therefore I would not downplay the procedure under any circumstances. This has nothing to do with my previous size.

Very interesting take

[lessthanavg8300]

Im curious how much height he gained.  "would not recommend the surgery" is rare to hear on here.  I wonder if thats all things considered or if hes just warning people its difficult.  At least he said he made a full recovery.

[increase]

I say from experience of making tibias for LON. I am a man who was 1.52 m. I remember that in the first week I regretted it bitterly. I thought in my mind, what the fk did I do, I'd rather be a half-dwarf than have gone through this now. I really don't understand who is more than 1.70, but who am I to judge, each person has their goals and desires. Today at 1.56 I'm getting ready to do a femur lol. But that's it, it's a pretty rough physical and mental process. If you have depression, I wouldn't recommend it.

[Ak95]

And if kam Depression because of my height ?

[Unknown]

I say from experience of making tibias for LON. I am a man who was 1.52 m. I remember that in the first week I regretted it bitterly. I thought in my mind, what the fk did I do, I'd rather be a half-dwarf than have gone through this now. I really don't understand who is more than 1.70, but who am I to judge, each person has their goals and desires. Today at 1.56 I'm getting ready to do a femur lol. But that's it, it's a pretty rough physical and mental process. If you have depression, I wouldn't recommend it.

So after recovery, did u regret it ultimately?

[increase]

maybe I expressed myself badly. I think if you're a pessimist like me (you complain about everything and always think nothing is good) I think you'll have the worst days of your life doing LL. But if you have good mental health and are optimistic, then you should take it more calmly.

[increase]

I regretted not having gone to 6cm kkkkk. That's why I'm here again. amazing how 4cm gave me more security. But it's what I said: The process is time consuming and highly tedious and stressful, but in the end it was worth it.

[lessthanavg8300]

Looks like you did LON tibias.  Thats one of the hardest ways you can go about LL.  If I didnt do internal weight bearing I dont think Id do the surgery at all personally because Id lose my mind.

[RealLostSoul]

Im curious how much height he gained.  "would not recommend the surgery" is rare to hear on here.  I wonder if thats all things considered or if hes just warning people its difficult.  At least he said he made a full recovery.

He went from 178 to 186 so 8 cm.

I can also warn about how difficult it is and personally I would also not recommend it to 95% of people. He is totally right about the training. You need to do so much for so long. And I think most people can‘t fit that into their lives which is understandable. I would only be comfortable saying this surgery is an option for someone that is ready to dedicate their life for many months solely for this AND is suffering immensely from height.

Also I am scared that he says he needs to continue stretching even years later. I hope I can soon slow it down, I will never want to stretch again after many months of stretching 4h every single day I am pretty sick of it.

[1team]

He went from 178 to 186 so 8 cm.

I can also warn about how difficult it is and personally I would also not recommend it to 95% of people. He is totally right about the training. You need to do so much for so long. And I think most people can‘t fit that into their lives which is understandable. I would only be comfortable saying this surgery is an option for someone that is ready to dedicate their life for many months solely for this AND is suffering immensely from height.

Also I am scared that he says he needs to continue stretching even years later. I hope I can soon slow it down, I will never want to stretch again after many months of stretching 4h every single day I am pretty sick of it.

This could be why Dr Franz in C4L said 6-6.5cm is optimal amount on femurs and after this problems started to increase exponentially. I've also read many LL patients say after 6cm they got much tighter. Permanently being tighter and needing, not wanting to stretch everyday sounds like an annoying tradeoff.

[RealLostSoul]

This could be why Dr Franz in C4L said 6-6.5cm is optimal amount on femurs and after this problems started to increase exponentially. I've also read many LL patients say after 6cm they got much tighter. Permanently being tighter and needing, not wanting to stretch everyday sounds like an annoying tradeoff.

I know many people who don’t need to keep stretching forever and they did more than that. Ultimately unless you have nonunion, the body will adapt. Even if it takes years. Yes the more you do the longer it will take until you fully truly recover. But at the end of the day I disagree with that trade off. The trade off is made once you do the surgery. If you do not want to stretch and train and recover for months then you should not do the surgery, even for smaller amounts. And marginal height increases like 3 or 4 cm is definitely not worth it.
I am honest I wouldn’t have done this if I was limited to 6.5cm. It took an extreme toll of my life and considering that irl 5cm is the mark where most patients really slowly start do see an increase. Idk man. For me it was even later. I only really slowly saw it post 6

[Antonio111111]

I was curious after seeing his video a few years ago on how he did the surgery to prolong his modelling career.

https://m.

This is what he said to me;

Hello, I usually no longer answer questions about my leg lengthening. However, I would like to make an exception: the whole lengthening process is very hard, painful and expensive. It is important that you work a lot yourself by doing stretching and stabilization exercises - preferably before the procedure and afterwards for life. Then you will reach a good level of training a few months after the metal removal. Although you are in the best hands with Prof. Betz, I would not recommend the surgery. Ultimately, however, everyone has to decide for themselves why they want to take on this procedure.

In the first few months, the gait pattern is significantly restricted. However, with the appropriate training and adequate therapy, it gets much better. I no longer have any restrictions.


Yes, I am completely healthy and fit again. But I still stretch and train regularly and have been a great contributor from the start. It was really a very hard path that only very few can walk. Therefore I would not downplay the procedure under any circumstances. This has nothing to do with my previous size.

Very interesting take

I think the model is lieing. Yes the process is hard. But I think he just wants to keep is height advantage and doesn't want others to get tall. He is being selfish and wants to keep the benefits to himself. With that height it would have helped his modelling career so I don't think he regrets.

[Ak95]

He said he didn't regret it and that it was the best decision of his life

[Taller90]

I think the model is lieing. Yes the process is hard. But I think he just wants to keep is height advantage and doesn't want others to get tall. He is being selfish and wants to keep the benefits to himself. With that height it would have helped his modelling career so I don't think he regrets.

Please read his statement again before spreading such allegations out…
His message is very clear. The procedure is not an easy going thing and as he said should not be downplayed at all. I think he has described it honestly and transparently, that this surgery and the process which comes along with that should be very well-thought-out.

[lessthanavg8300]

I get the feeling that if you're the type who has never played sports, gone to the gym, worked physically hard for something consistently, this surgery is going to be a shocker and overwhelming.  I think these are the people who struggle the most.

I think I calculated total miles Ive run in my life is equal to the distance across the US.  And then Ive lifted my whole life.  Also have had an injury that was excruciating (think central nervous system and being hospitalized).  If I say its bad next month when I get the surgery...its bad.  Will keep all updated.

[Vogel]

I get the feeling that if you're the type who has never played sports, gone to the gym, worked physically hard for something consistently, this surgery is going to be a shocker and overwhelming.  I think these are the people who struggle the most.

I think I calculated total miles Ive run in my life is equal to the distance across the US.  And then Ive lifted my whole life.  Also have had an injury that was excruciating (think central nervous system and being hospitalized).  If I say its bad next month when I get the surgery...its bad.  Will keep all updated.

Hahaha my man 💪🏽 You got this!!

[lessthanavg8300]

Thanks brother

[Medium Drink Of Water]

I think I calculated total miles Ive run in my life is equal to the distance across the US.  And then Ive lifted my whole life.  Also have had an injury that was excruciating (think central nervous system and being hospitalized).  If I say its bad next month when I get the surgery...its bad.  Will keep all updated.

You might have extra problems from lengthening big, thick leg muscles.  Not trying to discourage you though.  People who struggle a lot still get their height.

[lessthanavg8300]

Its a good point but I have runner legs, not body builder legs.  Never dead lifted or anything like that.  Tibias would prob be harder for me because I do have pretty built calves.  Luckily doing femurs though.

[TheDream]

It once again shows that the thing limiting LL and by far the biggest issue is soft tissue stretching.

The bones themselves heal fine assuming no complications. The problem lies in the tightness of the muscles, nerves etc.

We need to somehow make the soft tissue grow in a more natural manner like with normal height growth.

Maybe much slower continous lengthening during night time mixed with HGH instead of the discrete 0.33mm jumps like now.

[Kanye Western]

I personally feel the younger individuals who were athletic previously recover faster compared to mid 30s individuals?

[lessthanavg8300]

Absolutely can see soft tissue being the biggest issue.  Probably the worst thing about runner legs is that I do have tight hamstrings because they become strong and tighten up to drive you forward when you run a lot.  My hamstring are without a doubt going to be the biggest pain for me.  Hence why Im stretching a lot right now.

[shortisnotfun]

It's definitely not a joke. I'm sitting in the hospital bed after LON Tibias and it's the most painful thing I've ever experienced.

[lessthanavg8300]

Did you just have surgery?

[shortisnotfun]

Did you just have surgery?

Yes, 2 days ago. If you think LL is a walk in the park just wait... I thought it would be the same too

[shortisnotfun]

It's a type of pain that makes you see stars. Basically like your legs got ran over by a car pretty much

[Unknown]

Yes, 2 days ago. If you think LL is a walk in the park just wait... I thought it would be the same too

Did you have a thought like wtf am i doing after u did this surgery? Also did you have anyone with u or u came for the surgery by yourself?

[shortisnotfun]

Did you have a thought like wtf am i doing after u did this surgery? Also did you have anyone with u or u came for the surgery by yourself?

Yeah definitely. Came by myself. All my aspirations and my dreams of 15cm went away after I experienced the pain LOL

[Unknown]

Yeah definitely. Came by myself. All my aspirations and my dreams of 15cm went away after I experienced the pain LOL

Did the pain make you cry?

[shortisnotfun]

Did the pain make you cry?

Nah

[Siegfried]

Speaking from my personal experience, the pain was not that bad. I think the pain experiences on this forum are completely exaggerated to be honest. Its mainly the first 2-3 weeks where you are somewhat in pain, but its really not that bad, since you have painkillers most of the time.