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[Marconi]

People are changing their sex, so this is quite modest upgrade generally speaking.
I consider 6'2" to 6'5" route, but weighing in all options.

[Robert Adam]

If you lengthen the femur and tibia together by 10 cm (example 6+4), will you actually get 10 cm or less?

[Sky is the Limit]

People are changing their sxx, so this is quite modest upgrade generally speaking.
I consider 6'2" to 6'5" route, but weighing in all options.

Thanks for your input. The comparison to sxx changing operations (gender affirming surgery) is quite good and makes it easier to make the decision of going through with this procedure by putting things into perspective.

Are you saying that you are 6'2" and want to become 6'5" or that your end goal is something between 6'2-6'5"?

[Sky is the Limit]

If you lengthen the femur and tibia together by 10 cm (example 6+4), will you actually get 10 cm or less?

I think the actual increase in stature height pretty much equals the amount of lengthening you make. The end result may differ with 0,5-0,75 cm or something (or not even that much) if you take into account that the femur is not completely vertical. Somebody can fill in on this if the numbers are not correct. I will most likely lengthen by more than 10 cm (10,5-11 cm) in order to achieve the height that I strive for, which is something between 192-194 cm.

[GrowTow]

don't to quadrilateral, that's just a stupid idea.

Do femurs first, as you're already tall, i'm sure you'll be able to reach the 8cm limit and then you can see how you feel. 192cm is taller than average in every single country. If you're still unhappy just wear 3cm insoles which are completely unnoticeable and comfortable = 197cm wearing shoes.

[p00293]

You lot are fking braindead and pathetically easy to troll.

This is nothing more than a thread to say 'HEY GUYS I'M 6FT TALL, MORE THAN YOU LOSERS' but dressed up inside a question. If you can't see that, you've got much bigger problems than just being short.

[Sky is the Limit]

You lot are fking braindead and pathetically easy to troll.

This is nothing more than a thread to say 'HEY GUYS I'M 6FT TALL, MORE THAN YOU LOSERS' but dressed up inside a question. If you can't see that, you've got much bigger problems than just being short.

I would not have time nor any reason to initiate and uphold a troll post on this forum, because it would not benefit me or my life in any way. It may be quite difficult for me to prove that I am legitimately planning on doing this procedure, so you have to take me by my words. Yes, 6" is an okay height, but I still want to become taller for various reasons. My main reason would be that my upper body is quite long in comparison to my legs. I once was riding a train and I sat beside a dude whose head was on the same level as mine. When we both stood up, I noticed that he was like at least 8 cm taller than me. I know that I have some spare room to lengthen my legs in order to make me a little bit more proportional.

The reason why I started this thread was to find like-minded people, that is, people that are already fairly tall but still wishes to gain some more height. 

[bukibuki]

I would not have time nor any reason to initiate and uphold a troll post on this forum, because it would not benefit me or my life in any way. It may be quite difficult for me to prove that I am legitimately planning on doing this procedure, so you have to take me by my words. Yes, 6" is an okay height, but I still want to become taller for various reasons. My main reason would be that my upper body is quite long in comparison to my legs. I once was riding a train and I sat beside a dude whose head was on the same level as mine. When we both stood up, I noticed that he was like at least 8 cm taller than me. I know that I have some spare room to lengthen my legs in order to make me a little bit more proportional.

The reason why I started this thread was to find like-minded people, that is, people that are already fairly tall but still wishes to gain some more height. 

so you sat next to some complete stranger on the bus and then you both got up at the same time and you noticed you have a long torso and since then you have got daily nightmares where crowds of people, all of which are 8 feet tall and above are walking around you and watching you intensely "down there" and then you wake up all sweaty and find you pissed yourself in your sleep from that unimaginable horror

"like minded people", 99% of the forum population is like 5'4 so, no, not many 6 foot and above mental invalids around here, sorry

[Sky is the Limit]

so you sat next to some complete stranger on the bus and then you both got up at the same time and you noticed you have a long torso and since then you have got daily nightmares where crowds of people, all of which are 8 feet tall and above are walking around you and watching you intensely "down there" and then you wake up all sweaty and find you pissed yourself in your sleep from that unimaginable horror

"like minded people", 99% of the forum population is like 5'4 so, no, not many 6 foot and above mental invalids around here, sorry

I just gave an example. The train incident was not any life-changing experience, just a simple observation from everyday life.

I don't get the rudeness. I am here hoping to discuss my leg-lengthening options, how much centimeters and millimeters I will lengthen each bone and which doctor I am going to choose, once I have the money needed for the procedure. I am very glad that LL exists and was hoping to be able to share and receive thoughts and experiences with other people when I started my thread. I am not here to mock anyone.

[bukibuki]

the reason youre not getting sympathy is that youre already at a height for which 99% of the rest of the forum would throw their mothers in a woodchipper for

especially guys who have already done the surgery and endured the torture that is LL on the body as well as the mind

look at this guy: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=64498.0
he did back to back tibia and femur external frames + nail and even after all that youre still 1 inch taller than him LOL

now i understand you wanna CHADmaxx and have hot model sloots throw their panties at you while you walk down the street like youre elvis presley but as far as the majority of us are concerned you should stop bragging about your 6 ft height and look into moneymaxxing instead

[Unknown]

Please by all means go ruin your life when you already have a perfect height that 99% of short men would salivate at the thought of. Short men withstand this immense pain and effort to get to an average height where they are on equal playing field with an average dude. But this...?? Doing it at 6 ft is beyond retarded. Why stop at 6'4? Go lengthen till 7 ft. You will be unmoggable. Look what guys have to go through to have a fraction of what you are gifted naturally.

[Sky is the Limit]

the reason youre not getting sympathy is that youre already at a height for which 99% of the rest of the forum would throw their mothers in a woodchipper for

especially guys who have already done the surgery and endured the torture that is LL on the body as well as the mind

look at this guy: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=64498.0
he did back to back tibia and femur external frames + nail and even after all that youre still 1 inch taller than him LOL

now i understand you wanna CHADmaxx and have hot model sloots throw their panties at you while you walk down the street like youre elvis presley but as far as the majority of us are concerned you should stop bragging about your 6 ft height and look into moneymaxxing instead

I have in no way bragged about my height. I have informed you what my current height is and what my height goal is. It's quite important to mention those numbers in order to have a reasonable discussion about different lengthening options.

I think my thread will be a good place to discuss limb lengthening options for people with higher starting heights. I also believe that it will lower the threshold for people to come forward with their wishes to do LL without the fear of being labeled as insane. People taller than me have gotten LL.

[Sky is the Limit]

Please by all means go ruin your life when you already have a perfect height that 99% of short men would salivate at the thought of. Short men withstand this immense pain and effort to get to an average height where they are on equal playing field with an average dude. But this...?? Doing it at 6 ft is beyond retarded. Why stop at 6'4? Go lengthen till 7 ft. You will be unmoggable. Look what guys have to go through to have a fraction of what you are gifted naturally.

In what way would I "ruin my life" considering the quite modest lengthening I am planning (tibia 4,25 cm and femur 6,75 cm) and considering all is going well? The less you lengthen, the less risk of complications. Going from 6" to 6'4" is quite a leap and makes a major difference. I think that 193 cm is a good height, so I have no intention nor will to go above that.

[Hagane]

tbh i think if you wanted to do it, you will have an easier time than the majority of us.
simply because the amount you lengthen will be small relative to your original limb length

if you are obsessed with biomechanics maybe what you could do is
measure you original limb ratios via xray, then lengthen your each individual segment just enough that you preserve that ratio

[Sky is the Limit]

tbh i think if you wanted to do it, you will have an easier time than the majority of us.
simply because the amount you lengthen will be small relative to your original limb length

if you are obsessed with biomechanics maybe what you could do is
measure you original limb ratios via xray, then lengthen your each individual segment just enough that you preserve that ratio

Thank you for a good and helpful answer.

I am not totally obsessed with biomechanics. I just want to keep the ratio relatively intact. The LL-doctors who do quadrilateral lengthening probably have a good insight on this matter.

It is a good idea to start out with getting x-rays of the bones to get the exact measurements of them. It is also a concrete step toward starting this procedure. Once I have started out with something, I can't leave it undone. If it is not too expensive, I will try to get the x-rays in my home country. Another option would be to get the x-rays at the clinic where I am going to perform my lengthening procedure.

[Sky is the Limit]

Suppose I choose to lengthen my tibias with 3 cm and two weeks after that I would start to lengthen my femurs with up to 6 cm, i.e. quadrilateral lengthening with a small pause in between the surgeries with the goal to increase my total height by 9 cm. I would go with fully weightbearing nails both in the tibias and the femurs. My starting height is 6 feet (183 cm). How long would you say that my recovery would be? I read somewhere that the recovery time for lengthening the tibias with only 3 cm would be around 2 months and lengthening the femurs with only 6 cm would take another 2-3 months to recover from. Note that I am talking about bone healing now, not complete recovery with normal walking gait. What is a realistic recovery time for me, considering my starting height? And how long would it approximately take for me to have a normal walking gait and being able to go to the gym without any hassle?

[Body Builder]

For 3 cm on tibias you will need 4,5-5 months. 45-50 days for 1 cm.
For femurs maybe a little less like 40 days per cm.
Very bad decision though to do quadrilateral at your height and for amounts like 3cm. You harmed yourself for literally to gain nothing. Anyway.

[Sky is the Limit]

The total lengthening would be up to 9 cm. The good thing about lengthening from a higher starting height is that you put less stress on the muscles, nerves and tendons. The risk of complications is also very low, since the percentage that I am lengthening is quite low proportion wise to my bones. I would go from 6 feet to 6'3, which would put me in the range of the most optimal and ideal male height. So no, you're completely and utterly wrong when you're saying I wouldn't gain anything, but only harm myself. Have you read my other posts in this thread? Not sure if you're trying to be funny. But thanks for the info about recovery time. I appreciate it.

[Body Builder]

The total lengthening would be up to 9 cm. The good thing about lengthening from a higher starting height is that you put less stress on the muscles, nerves and tendons. The risk of complications is also very low, since the percentage that I am lengthening is quite low proportion wise to my bones. I would go from 6 feet to 6'3, which would put me in the range of the most optimal and ideal male height. So no, you're completely and utterly wrong when you're saying I wouldn't gain anything, but only harm myself. Have you read my other posts in this thread? Not sure if you're trying to be funny. But thanks for the info about recovery time. I appreciate it.

Even if you wanted to increase your height you could have done just 5-6cm on femurs and have a good result with not much time and money spent.
3cm on tibias are ridiculous, especially when you are already 6ft and you did femurs too. And 6.4, is not a good height, at least compared to 6-6.2 ft. Thats why I said you harm yourself (because always LL is harmful, no.matter what, just not at the same degree for everyone but that doesn't have to do.only with the initial height but with many factors too) for nothing. And thats the truth.
But its your decision after all so it doesn't really matter to anyone else what someone does with his body.

[Beemer m3]

some guy was 5'11 and did about 1 inch to grow 6' feet. he ended up in a nursing care. dr yuksel butchered him and he has ballerina feet. he only did like 3 cm with bad feet already. just know what your getting yourself into. i thought the recovery was easy but its not.

[Kintaeryos]

some guy was 5'11 and did about 1 inch to grow 6' feet. he ended up in a nursing care. dr yuksel butchered him and he has ballerina feet. he only did like 3 cm with bad feet already. just know what your getting yourself into. i thought the recovery was easy but its not.

Wow, he must have gone to quite a butcher if he got botched with only 3 cm of increase. Looked up Yuksel and he's based in Turkey, makes sense.

[Kintaeryos]

Even if you wanted to increase your height you could have done just 5-6cm on femurs and have a good result with not much time and money spent.
3cm on tibias are ridiculous, especially when you are already 6ft and you did femurs too. And 6.4, is not a good height, at least compared to 6-6.2 ft. Thats why I said you harm yourself (because always LL is harmful, no.matter what, just not at the same degree for everyone but that doesn't have to do.only with the initial height but with many factors too) for nothing. And thats the truth.
But its your decision after all so it doesn't really matter to anyone else what someone does with his body.

I hear that, but my concerns are similar to Sky is the Limit's (I want 7-7.5 cm though): What if you have to deal with dysmorphia due to having weird looking legs for the rest of your life due to abnormal femur/tibia ratio? I use lifts and have to take hiding them into account, I don't want to have to do the same with my legs and have to cover them in specific ways, think about what clothes to wear, worry about going to the beach etc. I wanna be taller and then carry on with my life, I don't want to add a new layer of complication to my everyday life post-recovery. If you do double LL such that your femur/tibia ratio is normal that's it, your legs look normal and you don't have to worry about it (or altered biomechanics, arguably more serious).

[Kintaeryos]

For 3 cm on tibias you will need 4,5-5 months. 45-50 days for 1 cm.
For femurs maybe a little less like 40 days per cm.
Very bad decision though to do quadrilateral at your height and for amounts like 3cm. You harmed yourself for literally to gain nothing. Anyway.

Wait, I thought the lengthening is like 0.5-1 mm per day, so for, say, 7 cm, it would be 70-140 days.

[Sky is the Limit]

Even if you wanted to increase your height you could have done just 5-6cm on femurs and have a good result with not much time and money spent.
3cm on tibias are ridiculous, especially when you are already 6ft and you did femurs too. And 6.4, is not a good height, at least compared to 6-6.2 ft. Thats why I said you harm yourself (because always LL is harmful, no.matter what, just not at the same degree for everyone but that doesn't have to do.only with the initial height but with many factors too) for nothing. And thats the truth.
But its your decision after all so it doesn't really matter to anyone else what someone does with his body.

As I have already stated in my initial post in this thread, the reason I am going to undergo a quadrilateral lengthening is to preserve the ratios between my tibias and femurs and to keep my biomechanics as intact as possible. I think you are underestimating the benefits of doing LL with a higher starting height. It is a tremendous advantage to have longer bones from the beginning if you are going to undergo LL. The amount of the lengthening is in proportion to the existing (initial) length of the bones very small in comparison to how much is usually lengthened in proportion to the initial length of the bones for people with lower starting heights. I also think that you are exaggerating the risks that may occur in the lengthening process. Sure, you have to take into account all the possible risks that may occur, but since the amounts of the lengthenings that I am planning to do is very small (3 cm + 6 cm or even 2,75 cm + 5,5 cm) compared to the huge amounts many people often do, I can easily undergo a quadrilateral lengthening, i.e. two surgeries in one go (with a couple of weeks in between), and be done with this whole procedure relatively easily. My height goal is 6'3 feet (190-192 cm), which is a much better and more solid height than 6 feet flat.

[LG1816]

This is complete lunacy.

[NailedLegs]

This is complete lunacy.

I say let these crazies do it. They'll quickly realize how little benefit there is and how that money would've been far more useful on just about any other cosmetic procedure. Hair transplant, rhino, or even jaw surgery. Heck, even braces if you have crooked teeth will do you better !

[limby101]

Don't do leg lengthening when you're over 180.
Seriously

[Sky is the Limit]

I say let these crazies do it. They'll quickly realize how little benefit there is and how that money would've been far more useful on just about any other cosmetic procedure. Hair transplant, rhino, or even jaw surgery. Heck, even braces if you have crooked teeth will do you better !

Funny thing you are planning on doing quadrilateral lengthening by up to 11,5 cm and you are calling ME crazy?

And just for the record, I am right now at this very moment in the middle of a bimax-surgery-process (jaw surgery). And do you want to know the best part? It's completely free for me! I live in a country with a publicly financed comprehensive healthcare system, and my case goes under specialised health care. So I am undergoing orthognathic surgery where they will perform a bimax and possibly a sliding genioplasty on me. My surgery will be in 1.5-2  years from now. I am now in partial braces and will get full on braces in the spring of next year. Only the braces themselves would cost me at least 6 000 euro if I would do it privately. The cost of the operation can go up to 150 000 ($) done in a private clinic in the USA. I went extatic with joy when I got opted for orthognatic surgery. And this is what opened a window for me to seriously consider undergoing LL.

The biggest question I have for now is: Should I do my quadrilateral LL BEFORE or AFTER my bimax surgery? That is the question. Could you give any advice or input in that?

[Sky is the Limit]

Don't do leg lengthening when you're over 180.
Seriously

Did you read all my posts in this thread before spewing out your unreasonable negativity? For some people, LL is simply just beneficial. Take me for example. I have a quite long torso in comparison to my legs. Therefore, contrary to a lot of your "opinions" here on the matter, I can "afford" to do leg lengthening (not talking in a monetary sense here), beacuse I would look more proportionate as a whole with longer legs, which means that I would benefit from it a lot with a lot less risks that is normally linked to LL-surgery. It's very hard for me to understand how you can say that a person over 180 cm should not do LL, when it is clearly more safe for that person to do it compared to a person who is, lets say, under 170 cm, and is planning to undergo a quadrilateral lengthening. It seriously blows my mind how some people (not talking specifically about you now) logical thinking goes. Because the logical reasoning of many that have answered in this thread don't sit well with their own plans in regard to (C)LL. To me, it seems like some people deep down don't want me to take advantage of LL with the starting height that I have. People here are yelling about craziness and high risks, when them themselves are planning to undergo or have undergone even far more extensive lengthenings without any serious complications. People here should be more supportive and helpful in regard to my leg lengthening plans, because we all have the same goal, which is getting taller. It's not more complicated than that.

[limby101]

Look, as a guy who did the surgery...
I don't know you, and you asked for advise, that's what I have to offer. You can like or not it's up to you, it comes from an honest will to help.

People get in this forum into long debates about this surgery and the procedure, tibia or femur, 4 or 5 or 5.5 or 8 cm, proportions, etc etc....its easy to get caught in this and feel like this is your world when in fact, it's not. The real world is out there and it's full of people who think this surgery is pure crazy. And it includes many shorter guys. Shorter than average guys who of course would love to be taller but in no way in hell would consider go through this risky journey. Many girls (which obviously women are a huge reason for guys to do this) actually look down at a guy who did this kind of a surgery because it shows a serious lack of self confidence, some inferiority issues, superficiality and even lack of a mature judgement. I think a decent woman would prefer a shorter guy with confidence and charisma over a taller guy who got this surgery to be tall.
So in other words - try not to mix the guys in here and this forum with the real, sane people that are out there, which we all were a part of before this surgery infected our minds:)

Obviously, significantly shorter guys or girls that are met with this in every single social interaction or even on their own dealing with being below 1 percentile, would probably have a just case of going through this risky journey because the benefit outweigh the risks.
But for a person who is in a decent height? That's just unnecessary risk.
And for all your talk about being taller makes it less risky because of proportions etc, or even discussing whats the "safest" method, I'm sorry to say but thats just bullcrap.
You break your bones and practically maim your most essential function of your body - the ability to walk. Yes it may recover to normality but hardly it ever goes 100 percent normal and for a healthy, normal person to do it to his body,  is pretty much cruelty. So for a normal height guy? That's plain crazy.
I actually think it's crazy for people of all heights even the shortest....but I guess some craziness is more justified than others.

That is my opinion only and I wish only the happiness and th best to everyone

[Body Builder]

As I have already stated in my initial post in this thread, the reason I am going to undergo a quadrilateral lengthening is to preserve the ratios between my tibias and femurs and to keep my biomechanics as intact as possible. I think you are underestimating the benefits of doing LL with a higher starting height. It is a tremendous advantage to have longer bones from the beginning if you are going to undergo LL. The amount of the lengthening is in proportion to the existing (initial) length of the bones very small in comparison to how much is usually lengthened in proportion to the initial length of the bones for people with lower starting heights. I also think that you are exaggerating the risks that may occur in the lengthening process. Sure, you have to take into account all the possible risks that may occur, but since the amounts of the lengthenings that I am planning to do is very small (3 cm + 6 cm or even 2,75 cm + 5,5 cm) compared to the huge amounts many people often do, I can easily undergo a quadrilateral lengthening, i.e. two surgeries in one go (with a couple of weeks in between), and be done with this whole procedure relatively easily. My height goal is 6'3 feet (190-192 cm), which is a much better and more solid height than 6 feet flat.

Quadrilateral lengthening is always riskier than lengthening one segment. For some people it is the only way to reach a normal height but for a 6ft dude to do both segments with ridiculous amounts like 3cm on tibias is just a stupid idea. LL is the most invasive, risky and extreme cosmetic surgery, nothing to do with gnathoplasty and all these. Also, noone will be as before, even if he just lengthens 2cm. It is hillarious to believe that with quadriple LL, even with relatively low amounts, you will function as before, because you want.
And no, with 6cm on femurs and 3cm on tibias you won't keep your proportions right because femurs are not double the size of the tibias so to keep proportions you should have done something like 4cm on femurs and 3.on tibias.
Still the biomechanics will be altered with LL no.matter what. And by not even waiting to fully.consolidate from one segment and then do the other but do both of them with just a few weeks break between them is also a bad decision.
Anyway, you are some of the few cases here who really won't have any benefit from LL and no responsible doctor  should  even operate them. Still, I wish you luck and my 2 cents is just do 5cm on femur and stop there, if you really need extra height. But your body.your decision.