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[maxheight35]

Hey Max, thanks for documenting the journey. Would be great if you could do a Youtube channel one day - would be much more convenient than watching it on Instagram.

Instagram is great because it’s fast, instant and unedited content. You can easily watch all past videos on the highlight reels.

[boots2asses]

How did you prepared for this surgery?

Did you made any stretches or did you lost any weight before hand? What are some good tips(that you made) and helped you a lot regarding to this point?

Thanks for sharing and speedy recovery.

[maxheight35]

I did a bunch of extra cardio a week before surgery, cut out caffeine, and ate really clean and lean foods. Avoided most processed sugars as well one week prior.

Stretching I didn’t really do anything as I didn’t know what to expect, however when I’m ready to do femurs I’ll most certainly prepare 6 months in advance and make sure I’m as flexible as possible with those muscles. There’s 5 muscle groups in the femur 😅

How did you prepared for this surgery?

Did you made any stretches or did you lost any weight before hand? What are some good tips(that you made) and helped you a lot regarding to this point?

Thanks for sharing and speedy recovery.

[arcademaster123]

Hey did they offer any payment plans. I want to do femurs but don't have 60k saved up currently

[SpeedDialer]

Do you feel Becker for Betzbone tibia and then betzone femur is the best option for most people who want to do both? More expensive than Giotikas and also Germany is more expensive than Greece--- but it gives you weight bearing tibias and sort of lets you stick to one doctor (well ability to stick to one team of <becker and betz> I mean) for weight bearing femur + weight bearing tibia.

I sort of think it might be worth it for people to save up more money and wait and go with Becker/Betz instead of Giotikas for this reason. Because it will be less disruptive to their lives and also Betz said in his youtube interview (now taken down) that his nail might be easier for clicking, at least it looks that way on youtube vid demonstrations of it compared to gnail clicking vids

The precise 2 tibia patients I've talked to so far in Athens have done about 4 cm tibias then it got tight and they stopped. HeightJourney on this forum in the USA stopped at 3.5 cm I believe with precise 2 tibias. I am thinking maybe 3.5-4.5 cm might be best for precise 2 tibias based on this. I am not sure if swimming pool walking + slower lengthening + losing weight so can do standing stretches earlier could help for precise 2 tibias push it to 5cm. But it seems hard to beat the ability to do standing stretches right off the bat and use your whole body weight to stretch the calves.

If someone does precise 2 tibias, their stretching ability feels as if it is limited by:

1. How often they stretch/how strong their arms are for stretching the calves with the bands

2. How long they can tolerate wearing the braces/splints that stretch the calves

3. The manual PT done on their calves

4. Depending on their bodyweight/what size precise 2 nail they put on them/their bone growth it could take a while to start standing stretches or slant board stretches

So idk maybe precise 2 tibia patients should have more manual PT stretches done on them

I'm under the impression that betzbone 2.0 tibias is just not very disruptive to people's lives compared to the other options? More freedom than precise 2 tibias, more freedom/less pain than externals, less pain than femurs

[Rockstarz5]

 
 Max said that femur has 5 muscles groups, not sure how much the tibia has, probably someone know the answer but yes probably is more maneable, is serms good option tibia on betz

[lessthanavg8300]

Curious - why cut out caffeine?

[maxheight35]

Hey did they offer any payment plans. I want to do femurs but don't have 60k saved up currently

Email them and ask. freiburg@betzinstitute.com

[maxheight35]

Hey man. Yes I do think it’s worth to do both with Becker using the Betz Bone.

Simple reason is because you don’t just get the surgery and the best lengthening nail, you get probably the highest quality of aftercare support in the whole industry, and you’re in one of the best hotels in all of Germany with cute girls, very nice people, great food, etc.

I genuinely miss my time at the hotel!

Do you feel Becker for Betzbone tibia and then betzone femur is the best option for most people who want to do both? More expensive than Giotikas and also Germany is more expensive than Greece--- but it gives you weight bearing tibias and sort of lets you stick to one doctor (well ability to stick to one team of <becker and betz> I mean) for weight bearing femur + weight bearing tibia.

I sort of think it might be worth it for people to save up more money and wait and go with Becker/Betz instead of Giotikas for this reason. Because it will be less disruptive to their lives and also Betz said in his youtube interview (now taken down) that his nail might be easier for clicking, at least it looks that way on youtube vid demonstrations of it compared to gnail clicking vids

The precise 2 tibia patients I've talked to so far in Athens have done about 4 cm tibias then it got tight and they stopped. HeightJourney on this forum in the USA stopped at 3.5 cm I believe with precise 2 tibias. I am thinking maybe 3.5-4.5 cm might be best for precise 2 tibias based on this. I am not sure if swimming pool walking + slower lengthening + losing weight so can do standing stretches earlier could help for precise 2 tibias push it to 5cm. But it seems hard to beat the ability to do standing stretches right off the bat and use your whole body weight to stretch the calves.

If someone does precise 2 tibias, their stretching ability feels as if it is limited by:

1. How often they stretch/how strong their arms are for stretching the calves with the bands

2. How long they can tolerate wearing the braces/splints that stretch the calves

3. The manual PT done on their calves

4. Depending on their bodyweight/what size precise 2 nail they put on them/their bone growth it could take a while to start standing stretches or slant board stretches

So idk maybe precise 2 tibia patients should have more manual PT stretches done on them

I'm under the impression that betzbone 2.0 tibias is just not very disruptive to people's lives compared to the other options? More freedom than precise 2 tibias, more freedom/less pain than externals, less pain than femurs

[maxheight35]

Curious - why cut out caffeine?

Actually have no idea lol. My ex girlfriend would cut out caffeine a week before she would get surgery so I just did the same.

[lessthanavg8300]

Lol, well it does do some things to your vessels/blood flow so maybe could make sense.

[Hassan]

Hi congratulations on your journey sounds amazing! Can I ask the best way to get in contact with the betz institute, I have tried emailing them but can’t get a reply back.

[maxheight35]

Hi congratulations on your journey sounds amazing! Can I ask the best way to get in contact with the betz institute, I have tried emailing them but can’t get a reply back.

They should respond. Maybe it’s slow because of the Holidays

[Kanye Western]

Hi Max,

How's week 12 of the lengthening been so far? Any more pain during lengthening, clicking?

[maxheight35]

Hi Max,

How's week 12 of the lengthening been so far? Any more pain during lengthening, clicking?

It’s going great! Check the IG story and Week 12 highlight for a new clicking video. This is the best clicking I’ve done since during the whole process.

[Rockstarz5]

Hey max I saw more than 11 clicks on you IG, are you allow or you feel any pain with extra 11 clicks?

[short but sweet]

OP , could you mention how much you have lengethened every time you post here  , I don't have IG and its difficult to track your progress

you were around 4cm on december 22nd 2022

[maxheight35]

OP , could you mention how much you have lengethened every time you post here  , I don't have IG and its difficult to track your progress

you were around 4cm on december 22nd 2022

I’m currently at 5.24cm. I recommend you get Instagram and watch all the videos I’ve posted throughout the last few months.

[Cathy7]

hi，i followed ur INS and may i know after surgery，how long time do u need to stay in bed？w unable to move around？

thx u so much

[maxheight35]

Just posted a new video of me walking. Week 14 LFG 🚀

[thankscience]

Are you feeling much tightness yet? How many hours each day are you stretching?

[Betzbone]

How many hours per day are you stretching at this point?
How many days PT are you doing per week?
How many days per week are you going to the gym?
What is your current gym routine?

[Bagga]

Just posted a new video of me walking. Week 14 LFG 🚀

Hi dude
I noticed that your walking gait is not as stable as what you had in Week 8.
Is that normal or due to slight ballerina feet you have?

[oklama]

your crazy in a good way

rooting for you so hard and I will watch all your progress... reallllly making me consider Germany as its considerably cheaper and the weightbearing seems pretty great...

if you can get 22cm that will be the greatest thing ive seen on here but from what ive read that seems impossible.

do you care to keep your running ability? or do you just want maximum height. You make me feel conservative trying to get 15-16cm 

scars look great too... not sure if I trust betz/becker yet as I never trusted them on letting people go so high but now very curious...

Pro's of being in Germany... when you come home you'll feel like you gained even ore height because the germans are so tall

[tallmen]

your crazy in a good way

rooting for you so hard and I will watch all your progress... reallllly making me consider Germany as its considerably cheaper and the weightbearing seems pretty great...

if you can get 22cm that will be the greatest thing ive seen on here but from what ive read that seems impossible.

do you care to keep your running ability? or do you just want maximum height. You make me feel conservative trying to get 15-16cm 

scars look great too... not sure if I trust betz/becker yet as I never trusted them on letting people go so high but now very curious...

Pro's of being in Germany... when you come home you'll feel like you gained even ore height because the germans are so tall

Not at all in a good way.

[oklama]

Not at all in a good way.

good if it works bad if it doesn't. just admire this guys balls

[maxheight35]

Are you feeling much tightness yet? How many hours each day are you stretching?

I stretch for 5 minutes in the morning, afternoon, evening in the sauna, and then again right before bed. My girlfriend also does 15 minute massage on each foot and ankle every night before bed.

[maxheight35]

Hi dude
I noticed that your walking gait is not as stable as what you had in Week 8.
Is that normal or due to slight ballerina feet you have?

Yes the walk has definitely gotten more aggressive at this stage. I don’t know if I’ll make it to 10cm the pain is starting to get worse and centralized in the feet and ankles!

[maxheight35]

Thanks bro. I appreciate your support!

Yeah I can’t tell you how good the setup is with Dr Becker. I’ve explained it here a few times but I predict he will be the new top LL surgeon in a very short time. They’re already booked up until next summer 😳

your crazy in a good way

rooting for you so hard and I will watch all your progress... reallllly making me consider Germany as its considerably cheaper and the weightbearing seems pretty great...

if you can get 22cm that will be the greatest thing ive seen on here but from what ive read that seems impossible.

do you care to keep your running ability? or do you just want maximum height. You make me feel conservative trying to get 15-16cm 

scars look great too... not sure if I trust betz/becker yet as I never trusted them on letting people go so high but now very curious...

Pro's of being in Germany... when you come home you'll feel like you gained even ore height because the germans are so tall

[Confidence]

Bro keep it up you got this.  No pain no gain.  I think 10cm could definitely still be achieved if you increase that stretching time

[lessthanavg8300]

Yes the walk has definitely gotten more aggressive at this stage. I don’t know if I’ll make it to 10cm the pain is starting to get worse and centralized in the feet and ankles!

Do not permanently disable yourself.  Listen to your body.  There are people who look back and wish they did less.  Not trying to discourage you just want you to have a good outcome.

Best of luck