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[RealLostSoul]

Some of your surgical scars appear to be healing nicely while some others less so. One in particular looked like a newish scab and not much healing. I want to do Tibias like you and one of my biggest concerns is the scaring. Have you noticed anything you've done differently which might lead to the better healing in some sites. Perhaps it's mostly the ankle scars do well starting a bit smaller? Becker or staff give any guidance regarding things to do to minimize scaring?

I do agree that tibia scars are a bit more of a thing compared to femur scars. Not much you can do other than using scar gel daily which they gave you and perhaps laser treatment in the future.

[maxheight35]

Good luck man 

Thank you 🫡

[maxheight35]

Thank you man.

I just posted a new story of me walking in the locker room, also it’s under Week 8 highlights.

Haven’t done femurs yet, but when I do I will let you know which one is easier!

Congrats, being active like you are will go a long way.  Can we get a video of you walking?  Maybe just aim the camera shoulders down? Sorry to ask just super curious. Also do you think its easier to walk like you are with tibia or femurs?  Hoping I can do you can with femurs.

[maxheight35]

Thank you 🙏

I have no idea the type of Anesthesia they used but I know it works! 🤣

The hospital was called something like “Praxlisclinic 2000” and was very small, private and kinda high end. A+ service while I was there as well.

Hi maxheight35, I'm loving your diary and your updates!

What type of anesthesia do they use at Betz institute?
And could you tell which exact hospital they do this surgery in? At the University Hospital Freiburg?

[lessthanavg8300]

Bro what!  Just watched.  You're walking around like that.  You cant even tell you're doing LL.  If my walk is anywhere near yours Im going to be psyched.

[maxheight35]

Yes the scars are quite ugly right now. And honestly I haven’t used the scaring gel even one time. When the time comes, I’ll get laser treatment as it’s very effective. I’ve had it done on my face before and it works very good!

Don’t let a couple of scars hold you back from doing this surgery.

Some of your surgical scars appear to be healing nicely while some others less so. One in particular looked like a newish scab and not much healing. I want to do Tibias like you and one of my biggest concerns is the scaring. Have you noticed anything you've done differently which might lead to the better healing in some sites. Perhaps it's mostly the ankle scars do well starting a bit smaller? Becker or staff give any guidance regarding things to do to minimize scaring?

[ten]

Thank you 🙏

I have no idea the type of Anesthesia they used but I know it works! 🤣

The hospital was called something like “Praxlisclinic 2000” and was very small, private and kinda high end. A+ service while I was there as well.

There is general anesthesia where they put a gas mask and you pass out. There is spinal where they push something into your spine while you're awake. Which one was it?

And are you on blood thinners? For how long?

[maxheight35]

Bro what!  Just watched.  You're walking around like that.  You cant even tell you're doing LL.  If my walk is anywhere near yours Im going to be psyched.

Yeah man, just stretch consistently, hit the sauna as much as possible, and ice the legs several intervals throughout the day. The combo really helps.

[maxheight35]

Yes it was through an IV in the arm and the gas mask. I took the blood thinners for like 30 days.

There is general anesthesia where they put a gas mask and you pass out. There is spinal where they push something into your spine while you're awake. Which one was it?

And are you on blood thinners? For how long?

[Taller90]

Thank you man.

I just posted a new story of me walking in the locker room, also it’s under Week 8 highlights.

Haven’t done femurs yet, but when I do I will let you know which one is easier!

Unbelievable and this after 8 weeks! I can tell for sure femurs are very much harder due to the larger muscles. Dr. Becker told me as well that Tibia is going much easier because you dont have to fight against duck ass und wide legs. My walk (I have done femur) is right now the same but 3 months post-clicking

Do you still use the crutches, like outside, or did you already throw them away 

[RealLostSoul]

Unbelievable and this after 8 weeks! I can tell for sure femurs are very much harder due to the larger muscles. Dr. Becker told me as well that Tibia is going much easier because you dont have to fight against duck ass und wide legs. My walk (I have done femur) is right now the same but 3 months post-clicking

Do you still use the crutches, like outside, or did you already throw them away 

Yea man I still sometimes wish I did tibias. But hey at least in the future we know that it will be easier than what we already did.

[lessthanavg8300]

"Yea man I still sometimes wish I did tibias."

It really depends on your goals.  If hiding you did LL is important then femurs are the way to go.  But it does look like tibias effect your gate much less and from that standpoint its less obvious through the LL and recovery process.  But that time also comes and goes.

[RealLostSoul]

"Yea man I still sometimes wish I did tibias."

It really depends on your goals.  If hiding you did LL is important then femurs are the way to go.  But it does look like tibias effect your gate much less and from that standpoint its less obvious through the LL and recovery process.  But that time also comes and goes.

Not because any of these reasons. Long tibias look great imo.
It‘s because of the amount of work. Femur needs so much more stretching and duckass looks horrendous compared to ballerina foot.

[maxheight35]

Yes, long tibias looks great! And I make it look easy 😉🤣

It’s a combination of so many things like having the right positive mental attitude, physical activity, dedication to stretching, etc

Also remember tibia takes 5 months to hit 8.5cm while femurs take only 4 months to hit the full 12cm!

Thats the one reason I’m looking forward to femurs. And now that I know how hard it is, I will prepare several months in advance and become a master at yoga lol

[maxheight35]

I left the crutches in Germany!

Unbelievable and this after 8 weeks! I can tell for sure femurs are very much harder due to the larger muscles. Dr. Becker told me as well that Tibia is going much easier because you dont have to fight against duck ass und wide legs. My walk (I have done femur) is right now the same but 3 months post-clicking

Do you still use the crutches, like outside, or did you already throw them away 

[oldiebuttbaddie]

maxheight35--I just want to say thank you. I think it's incredible what you're doing. Your accomplishments and attitude are truly inspiring. I wish people were less afraid of others finding out and more proud of what they're accomplishing.  Hopefully your instagram story is the first step towards this. 

[maxheight35]

Thanks I appreciate these words. It takes a lot of work physically and mentally.

New video posted on IG showing how to click with tibias. Check the story and highlight week 9!

maxheight35--I just want to say thank you. I think it's incredible what you're doing. Your accomplishments and attitude are truly inspiring. I wish people were less afraid of others finding out and more proud of what they're accomplishing.  Hopefully your instagram story is the first step towards this.

[lessthanavg8300]

Those clicks sound brutal lol.

Do you think I should stay for 2 or 3 weeks to get clicking down?  Need to book my return flight soon.

[RealLostSoul]

Those clicks sound brutal lol.

Do you think I should stay for 2 or 3 weeks to get clicking down?  Need to book my return flight soon.

Definitely would recommend that man. Even for femur. I only stayed 2 weeks, I mean I did fine anyways but tbh from the feeling it was kinda too short. Would recommend ~4 weeks.

[lessthanavg8300]

I think Im going to do 3 weeks.  I would do longer but id prefer for my family to not call me and caller ID comes in from freaking Germany lmao.  How do I explain that.  With 3 weeks I can call right before I leave and then just text for a while.  Or on week 2 say "ill give you a call next week".

Obviously safety is #1 but it seems people leave at week 2 and 3 and do fine.

[Bagga]

Those clicks sound brutal lol.

Do you think I should stay for 2 or 3 weeks to get clicking down?  Need to book my return flight soon.

This is nothing compared to Femur Clicking of Gnail or Betz
Femur clicking is more difficult and you will be amazed how your legs rotate more than 90 degree..,,,lol

[Bagga]

I think Im going to do 3 weeks.  I would do longer but id prefer for my family to not call me and caller ID comes in from freaking Germany lmao.  How do I explain that.  With 3 weeks I can call right before I leave and then just text for a while.  Or on week 2 say "ill give you a call next week".

Obviously safety is #1 but it seems people leave at week 2 and 3 and do fine.

Are you still using land line call?
We are using Watapps call instead

[IceTrae38]

This is nothing compared to Femur Clicking of Gnail or Betz
Femur clicking is more difficult and you will be amazed how your legs rotate more than 90 degree..,,,lol

Is it more painful?

[lessthanavg8300]

This is nothing compared to Femur Clicking of Gnail or Betz
Femur clicking is more difficult and you will be amazed how your legs rotate more than 90 degree..,,,lol

Did you do Betz femurs?  Ive heard people say its not bad and people say it was horrible.  Not sure what to believe. 


I have international cellular but I plan to just use wifi texting.  Hopefully the hospital has wifi??  If I call over wifi Im not sure how it shows up on caller ID to a caller in the US....so Im trying to avoid that.

[RealLostSoul]

Did you do Betz femurs?  Ive heard people say its not bad and people say it was horrible.  Not sure what to believe. 


I have international cellular but I plan to just use wifi texting.  Hopefully the hospital has wifi??  If I call over wifi Im not sure how it shows up on caller ID to a caller in the US....so Im trying to avoid that.

Beginning it‘s awful to click with femur I won‘t sugarcoat. First 2 cm felt like giving birth everyday with bad cramps and pain in the hip region and all that stuff for me. But it gets better with time. After 4cm it became mostly painfree and after 7cm I was able to click similar to like he showed in the video.
Yes clicking is much easier with tibia but at the end of the day I would say clicking was definitely one of the least important problems. Since 4cm it was no problem at all. I wouldn‘t worry too much about it man.

[lessthanavg8300]

Welp...this is going to suck.

Does the hospital have wifi?

[Bagga]

Did you do Betz femurs?  Ive heard people say its not bad and people say it was horrible.  Not sure what to believe. 


I have international cellular but I plan to just use wifi texting.  Hopefully the hospital has wifi??  If I call over wifi Im not sure how it shows up on caller ID to a caller in the US....so Im trying to avoid that.

i did Gnail at Femur.
Not sure about Germany hospital. In Athens, there is Wifi in both hospital and my accommodation.

[Bagga]

Is it more painful?

Yes it was at the beginning for Femur when you have inflammation phase.
Some patients are a lot of  clicking problems...need help from doctor and nurses.
It will become easy after few weeks.
However, post clicking for Femur will result have a lot of discomfort, muscle tightness and nerve numbness.
This is why we need a lot of stretching and massage for LL Femur.

[lessthanavg8300]

Yes it was at the beginning for Femur when you have inflammation phase.
Some patients are a lot of  clicking problems...need help from doctor and nurses.
It will become easy after few weeks.
However, post clicking for Femur will result have a lot of discomfort, muscle tightness and nerve numbness.
This is why we need a lot of stretching and massage for LL Femur.

Whats the most important muscle group to stretch before?  Im working hard on hamstrings right now.  Slightly worried because I already have tightness there.  Also did you have any hip/lower back pain from hamstrings and nerves tugging?

[Bagga]

Whats the most important muscle group to stretch before?  Im working hard on hamstrings right now.  Slightly worried because I already have tightness there.  Also did you have any hip/lower back pain from hamstrings and nerves tugging?

I gotta the following after more than 5.5cm:

1. Hamstrings tightness and pain when doing stretching
2. kneecap slight pain
3. Numbness at right lower leg

Go easy with stretching, reduce no. of clicking and massage.

[lessthanavg8300]

I gotta the following after more than 5.5cm:

1. Hamstrings tightness and pain when doing stretching
2. kneecap slight pain
3. Numbness at right lower leg

Go easy with stretching, reduce no. of clicking and massage.

Thanks for this Bagga.  One last question for you if you dont mind: what was your flexibility level going into LL?  Could you touch your toes or were you a touch your mid shins guy?