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[leonazul99]

We should but not in his personal diary.

So right these numbers.. idk should we as a forum discuss this?

How do you @ someone in this forum, uh lets see, where are our fearless leaders? 

@mediumdrinkofwater

@cyborg4life

idk should I not be trying to raise a discussion about 10cm tibias? Or more generally 6.5-10 cm tibias , some kind of discussion about that

It kinda feels like the elephant in the room, I kinda feel like we should talk about it

[shortisnotfun]

Yeah 10cm Tibia seems a bit much. Curious to see how it goes

[maxheight35]

And to be fair, only statements / facts from other members who’ve actually lengthened at least 8cm on tibias should be allowed to comment. Otherwise everything else is just noise.

I’ll continue to share my journey and post pics / videos on the IG stories and highlight reels. Make sure you guys are following so you see the updates in real time.

[hippo60]

Haven’t met anyone yet. I’ve seen before and after pics and a long tibia looks really good.

Maybe you should before you go that far? I respect your motivation and the amount of work you put in obviously matters, but there are other factors to think about. I remember reading in this forum about multiple people who suffer complications and mentioned they should've stopped earlier, and also a top Dr. mentioning in a recent Cyborg4Life interview that he told a patient to stop lengthening but he kept going against his advice and it ended up in complications.

[maxheight35]

Well this is why I chose Becker & the Betz nail in the first place - mobility, the tech, and the max potential CM. He did tell me that I should stop at 10cm on tibia, so I will definitely do that.

And yeah bro, follow the IG. I’m posting tons of content and will continue to do so throughout the whole process.

https://instagram.com/maxheight35

Maybe you should before you go that far? I respect your motivation and the amount of work you put in obviously matters, but there are other factors to think about. I remember reading in this forum about multiple people who suffer complications and mentioned they should've stopped earlier, and also a top Dr. mentioning in a recent Cyborg4Life interview that he told a patient to stop lengthening but he kept going against his advice and it ended up in complications.

[hippo60]

Well this is why I chose Becker & the Betz nail in the first place - mobility, the tech, and the max potential CM. He did tell me that I should stop at 10cm on tibia, so I will definitely do that.

And yeah bro, follow the IG. I’m posting tons of content and will continue to do so throughout the whole process.

https://instagram.com/maxheight35

Yeah man I'm following you! Maybe Becker can introduce you to other patients who have done 10cm? Or maybe someone doing it right now? Would love his input. I have a feeling the 5cm limit isn't a tech limit (mobility might be part but willing to bet it's not the main reason).

[Stand taller]

Congrats on getting the surgery and nice to see that Dr Becker is your primary contact! He's awesome!

I did the surgery back in January and spoke a little with Dr Betz and have had some communication with him, but my primary contact has been with Dr Becker. He's fast to respond and seems to care a lot about his patients.

Did you have surgery in Freiburg at Praxisklinik 2000? Hospital was okay, but the food was awful!

Curious to see how you fare doing 10cm on tibias. I did 11,5cm on femurs and was done clicking four months ago, but because of my issues with duck ass I'm still not 100% of the crutches. Duck ass is close to being resolved (I'll do an update on my diary soon), but because I still have some -walking over distances more than a few 100 meters is very tiring on my lower back. My duck ass started at 7cm, so I'm curious to know if you will experience something similar doing tibias instead of femurs.

10cm is life changing, how much are you planing on doing on femurs? I stared at 165cm, so I was a litte taller than you are now and I did more length. I ended up at 177cm (or close enough to 5'10 that I can say I'm 5'10) and I no longer feel small. It is such a weird, awesome, great and strange feeling not feeling small anymore. Sure plenty of people are taller than me, but most people I meet (including both genders) are actually shorter than me. I went from being shorter than most people to being taller than most people, can't put that feeling enough into words.

Either way good luck and hope you don't experience duck ass as severe as I did. It is a lengthy process and you will get trough it in the end. Even though my duck ass has been a pain in the ass and the reason I still can't walk normally, I do see the light at end of the tunnel and I have no regrets. In the end, it is totally worth it!

[Taller90]

I am also very curious about your experience, in particular how much you will be hitting and in particular how fast you will be able to get rid of the crutches. I am also thinking about doing tibias but only, if I would get mobile without crutches very quickly (2-3 months after the surgery). I have to integrated it into my daily job routine this time... however, Becker mentioned to me that the tibia LL Process is much more easier than femur LL, so I am very curious about what you are going to report the next weeks/months.

I am now almost 8 weeks post clicking and I am walking without crutches very safely (Sometimes I forget them when I go out of the house  ) I did go up and downstairs yesterday without crutches as well. I only have a very little duck ass which makes me a bit tired when I am walking a lot but my physio is also very optimistic that I will reduce it further. Its all about training and in particular time!

I had almost the same starting height like you and now beeing 10,75cm taller (162,5 to 173,5) is an incredible feeling  you will definitely like it! From beeing shorter than the average girl to being taller then the most of them and almost have the average men's size is a change which is absolutely worth regardless how much you have to pay for! I think you will start noticing it, when you hit 165cm and beeing taller that the most girls

Furthermore, good luck and stay patient!

[leonazul99]

That's awesome man, two members now with more than 10cm on femurs.  Maybe I should go for more, what made you stop at 10.75cm?

I am also very curious about your experience, in particular how much you will be hitting and in particular how fast you will be able to get rid of the crutches. I am also thinking about doing tibias but only, if I would get mobile without crutches very quickly (2-3 months after the surgery). I have to integrated it into my daily job routine this time... however, Becker mentioned to me that the tibia LL Process is much more easier than femur LL, so I am very curious about what you are going to report the next weeks/months.

I am now almost 8 weeks post clicking and I am walking without crutches very safely (Sometimes I forget them when I go out of the house  ) I did go up and downstairs yesterday without crutches as well. I only have a very little duck ass which makes me a bit tired when I am walking a lot but my physio is also very optimistic that I will reduce it further. Its all about training and in particular time!

I had almost the same starting height like you and now beeing 10,75cm taller (162,5 to 173,5) is an incredible feeling  you will definitely like it! From beeing shorter than the average girl to being taller then the most of them and almost have the average men's size is a change which is absolutely worth regardless how much you have to pay for! I think you will start noticing it, when you hit 165cm and beeing taller that the most girls

Furthermore, good luck and stay patient!

[Taller90]

Check out my diary 😉
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=71436.0

I have mentioned mentioned my reasons there but in a nutshell: I reached my initial goal and I didnt want to go to the absolut limit, although I got the permission from Betz to go until 11cm. Finally who cares about 0,25cm 😅😅

[SpeedDialer]

Yeah man I'm following you! Maybe Becker can introduce you to other patients who have done 10cm?

Agreed, and it would be great to hear from anyone who has done like even above 7cm on tibias  tbh

I'm still trying to decide someday whether to shoot for 5 (Paley limit) or 5.5 cm tibias someday in Athens, kinda curious what people have experienced as they start reaching 6,7,8 etc in Germany to get a sense how things feel beyond 5 cm

In Athens now, I only know of two people doing internal tibias. One guy is doing the 4 precise nails quadrilateral option so I think his current ballerina foot at around 2 inches tibia is maybe not representative of other people's experience. He mentioned that the splints for the tibias may be too uncomfortable for alot of people during the night for sleeping. But I keep thinking "wait so Germany clicking tibia patients may not need to worry about this as much because they can walk much earlier and sort of automatically stretch it by walking"

The other guy in Athens doing precise tibia came in very flexible and is only 2cm (ish? forget) into his journey but basically his calves flexibility is still well within the normal range of non-patients ---but it seems that achilles tendon pain may sometimes flare up in tibia patients

But basically I am getting the impression that the OP might have made a great decision to go with clicking tibias first, like the weight bearing, the quality of life, etc. And if he is going to eventually do both femurs and tibias anyway in the long run, the (possibly/probably) lower pain for tibias than femurs on average should help alot for easing into the process

[maxheight35]

Awesome thanks bro 🙏

Becker said only 10% of patients do tibia and almost none of them have done it first before femurs. I’m an anomaly. Let’s see what happens.

Yeah man I'm following you! Maybe Becker can introduce you to other patients who have done 10cm? Or maybe someone doing it right now? Would love his input. I have a feeling the 5cm limit isn't a tech limit (mobility might be part but willing to bet it's not the main reason).

[maxheight35]

This is inspiring, thanks for sharing. I think from what I’m told, tibia is easier than femur. There’s part of me that thinks I should have done the hard ones first lol.

I am also very curious about your experience, in particular how much you will be hitting and in particular how fast you will be able to get rid of the crutches. I am also thinking about doing tibias but only, if I would get mobile without crutches very quickly (2-3 months after the surgery). I have to integrated it into my daily job routine this time... however, Becker mentioned to me that the tibia LL Process is much more easier than femur LL, so I am very curious about what you are going to report the next weeks/months.

I am now almost 8 weeks post clicking and I am walking without crutches very safely (Sometimes I forget them when I go out of the house  ) I did go up and downstairs yesterday without crutches as well. I only have a very little duck ass which makes me a bit tired when I am walking a lot but my physio is also very optimistic that I will reduce it further. Its all about training and in particular time!

I had almost the same starting height like you and now beeing 10,75cm taller (162,5 to 173,5) is an incredible feeling  you will definitely like it! From beeing shorter than the average girl to being taller then the most of them and almost have the average men's size is a change which is absolutely worth regardless how much you have to pay for! I think you will start noticing it, when you hit 165cm and beeing taller that the most girls

Furthermore, good luck and stay patient!

[maxheight35]

Ahhh man! Read this diary right before my surgery and made me feel very confident and excited to do this. Congrats on the gains bro 🚀 have you thought about doing tibias?

Check out my diary 😉
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=71436.0

I have mentioned mentioned my reasons there but in a nutshell: I reached my initial goal and I didnt want to go to the absolut limit, although I got the permission from Betz to go until 11cm. Finally who cares about 0,25cm 😅😅

[Stand taller]

Hey maxheight35! You wanna answer my post? 🙈😂

Congrats on getting the surgery and nice to see that Dr Becker is your primary contact! He's awesome!

I did the surgery back in January and spoke a little with Dr Betz and have had some communication with him, but my primary contact has been with Dr Becker. He's fast to respond and seems to care a lot about his patients.

Did you have surgery in Freiburg at Praxisklinik 2000? Hospital was okay, but the food was awful!

Curious to see how you fare doing 10cm on tibias. I did 11,5cm on femurs and was done clicking four months ago, but because of my issues with duck ass I'm still not 100% of the crutches. Duck ass is close to being resolved (I'll do an update on my diary soon), but because I still have some -walking over distances more than a few 100 meters is very tiring on my lower back. My duck ass started at 7cm, so I'm curious to know if you will experience something similar doing tibias instead of femurs.

10cm is life changing, how much are you planing on doing on femurs? I stared at 165cm, so I was a litte taller than you are now and I did more length. I ended up at 177cm (or close enough to 5'10 that I can say I'm 5'10) and I no longer feel small. It is such a weird, awesome, great and strange feeling not feeling small anymore. Sure plenty of people are taller than me, but most people I meet (including both genders) are actually shorter than me. I went from being shorter than most people to being taller than most people, can't put that feeling enough into words.

Either way good luck and hope you don't experience duck ass as severe as I did. It is a lengthy process and you will get trough it in the end. Even though my duck ass has been a pain in the ass and the reason I still can't walk normally, I do see the light at end of the tunnel and I have no regrets. In the end, it is totally worth it!

[lessthanavg8300]

Are you doing this surgery solo?  Tell any family or friends?

Btw you're doing quite a bit on tibias, if you get ballerina foot make sure you take that seriously.  Probably time to stop if that happens.

[maxheight35]

Hey maxheight35! You wanna answer my post? 🙈😂

Sorry bro! Yeah Dr. Becker is a great guy and has been very supportive!

And yes I had the surgery in Frieburg at Praxisklinik 2000… I was so happy to leave that place! The nurses were OK but yeah the food absolutely sucked!!! I ordered takeout for every meal other than breakfast and I would have ordered breakfast if there was an option lol.

I heard about many stories with the duck ass with femurs. Actually think it comes down to the dedication you give on stretching everyday! I met this guy Nico here who did surgery as well about 4 months ago and he’s walking fine with no duck ass but man he puts in the work! Even when we are talking and eating he’s always stretching.

So far so good on the tibias. 10cm is definitely a game changer and I’ll be going for the max height possible with femurs. Hopefully another 12 there and then it’s game on baby!!!

Staying positive, active, and keeping my mind as busy as possible is key with this whole operation and situation. This hotel is amazing as well I can’t say it enough… I’m very happy and grateful for the level of service I’m being given from Dr. Becker and his team down to the hotel staff and physical therapy clinic staff as well!

Have you thought about doing tibias?

[maxheight35]

Are you doing this surgery solo?  Tell any family or friends?

Btw you're doing quite a bit on tibias, if you get ballerina foot make sure you take that seriously.  Probably time to stop if that happens.

Yes I’m here solo. A few family and friends know but I am keeping it lowkey for the most part.

I actually just spoke to a guy who got ballerina foot who did 9cm on tibias but with physical therapy and more training it went away after 6 weeks when finished lengthening. Not too bad really.

Have you done tibias? What is your experience so far?

[lessthanavg8300]

I havent had any LL so far.  So January will be my first time.  Im a bit over 5'7 and with 5CM (femurs) it will put me over 5'9.  I just want to get to the point where Im comfortable in my own skin, I dont need to be tall.  I know for a fact that height will do it because I walked around with lifts for the first time and it was a game changer mentally.  So thats the plan.

Currently my biggest obstacle is getting away from family for 5-6 months and creating a good excuse.  Right now I plan to say Im taking a class internationally for learning but also for fun.  Hoping that goes well.  I get mixed advice saying 2 inches can be hidden from family.  Im not really sure what to expect.

I feel like I'm at a height range where there is a stigma attached the surgery because I'm not seriously short.  Just shortish.  But to me its still a big deal, obviously since Im willing to break my legs.

[Taller90]

Ahhh man! Read this diary right before my surgery and made me feel very confident and excited to do this. Congrats on the gains bro 🚀 have you thought about doing tibias?

Thanks, yes I thought about it but I will only be able to do it, if I can integratie it smoothly into my daily job routine. I am a consultant with 2-3 days home office. Thats why I am interested how things are going to be in your case doing tibia.
I was able to took 6 months off for my femur surgery but I will not be able to do this again for tibia.

[maxheight35]

I understand what you mean. It’s really all about how you personally feel and what makes you more confident and happier in life. Once you get the surgery and hit the 5cm you’ll probably keep going higher just because you’ll be used to the routine.

For femurs you only need 2 months for 5cm and like 4 months for 10cm. Tibias you need 6 months for 10cm !!! Keep me posted on the progress man!

I havent had any LL so far.  So January will be my first time.  Im a bit over 5'7 and with 5CM (femurs) it will put me over 5'9.  I just want to get to the point where Im comfortable in my own skin, I dont need to be tall.  I know for a fact that height will do it because I walked around with lifts for the first time and it was a game changer mentally.  So thats the plan.

Currently my biggest obstacle is getting away from family for 5-6 months and creating a good excuse.  Right now I plan to say Im taking a class internationally for learning but also for fun.  Hoping that goes well.  I get mixed advice saying 2 inches can be hidden from family.  Im not really sure what to expect.

I feel like I'm at a height range where there is a stigma attached the surgery because I'm not seriously short.  Just shortish.  But to me its still a big deal, obviously since Im willing to break my legs.

[maxheight35]

Thanks, yes I thought about it but I will only be able to do it, if I can integratie it smoothly into my daily job routine. I am a consultant with 2-3 days home office. Thats why I am interested how things are going to be in your case doing tibia.
I was able to took 6 months off for my femur surgery but I will not be able to do this again for tibia.

I can’t speak for femurs yet but so far tibia really is quite a breeze. There’s no pain but more just tension and after a few minutes of intense stretching and about 30 minutes of ice, it almost feels like normal.

That’s cool you can work from home 2-3 days a week. I will keep you posted on my progress. There’s a part of me that wants to try walking without crutches already so let’s see

[EndGame]

So far so good on the tibias. 10cm is definitely a game changer and I’ll be going for the max height possible with femurs. Hopefully another 12 there and then it’s game on baby!!!

22cm total would be the most I've ever heard of being done. I did femurs 7.3cm precise 2.2, consolidated early at 73/77mm if memory serves. Was able to go backwards and even up at 73mm left and right with precise. Great diary. Much appreciated. I've been wanting to do Tibia next, maybe in a year. I've been debating how much to try to lengthen and going with precise or perhaps follow in your footsteps. Would you be willing to share your sitting height? I'm wondering about your SHR pre LL and post LL. My SHR and proportions keep me worried about going for a lot more. Curious if you don't care if proportions end up leggy AF or you are starting with an extra long torso. Part of me really really really wants to say screw proportions and try to do 8cm tibias but I would be leggy AF doing that.

Also, if you'll share, what's your wingspan? My thought is that perhaps if I have arm LL then it'll balance out things and my proportions will be ok even with a below 0.50 SHR. 

[lessthanavg8300]

I think Ill be antsey to stop lengthening and start recovering when I hit 5CM.  I just want to get this whole thing done with as soon as possible.  But you might be right.  Well see and Ill def keep you updated.  I might even see you over there if you remain at the facility.  Not sure what your plans are.

Tibias are a trek!  6months of lengthening is intense.  Glad things seems to be going well for you so far though.

[tallmen]

Hello Everyone.

Just had surgery with Dr. Becker last week, he’s taking over Dr. Betz practice.

First impression of Becker was a surprise….He’s tall, good looking, great hair, and has great style with his clothes. Definitely the “ideal” look for a man.

Anyway, flew from LA (Los Angeles, CA) to get the surgery. I had consults with almost all of the doctors in the US and with so many limiting factors (mobility, comfort, height in CM) I figured the best of the best is in Germany.

My goal is to do both tibias and femurs, and decided to go with tibias first.

Current height: 160cm (5 ft 3 inches)
First Goal: 170cm (5 ft 7 inches)

Since I have a lot of time on my hands and will be spending the next 30 days here in Germany, I created a new IG account that documents all the progress.

You can follow the IG here:

https://www.instagram.com/maxheight35/

Feel free to ask any questions here and I’ll keep this post updated throughout the journey.

Thanks!

How do you click dude? How does your device work?

[Mini0510]

I can’t speak for femurs yet but so far tibia really is quite a breeze. There’s no pain but more just tension and after a few minutes of intense stretching and about 30 minutes of ice, it almost feels like normal.

That’s cool you can work from home 2-3 days a week. I will keep you posted on my progress. There’s a part of me that wants to try walking without crutches already so let’s see

So you just want to do one surgery to get to 10cm right? Instead of doing 2 (both femur and tibia).

[SpeedDialer]

I can’t speak for femurs yet but so far tibia really is quite a breeze. There’s no pain but more just tension and after a few minutes of intense stretching and about 30 minutes of ice, it almost feels like normal.

Great!

[lessthanavg8300]

Read his very first post on this thread.  Hes planning on doing both.

[maxheight35]

How do you click dude? How does your device work?

Clicking is really cool man. For the tibia, I twist my ankle outwards for one click, and then inward for another click and this lengthens the rod like a half millimeter each time. I do 11 clicks per day per leg!

[maxheight35]

I walked earlier today with no crutches. Felt nice!

Video is on the IG stories and Week 3 highlight reels

[Taller90]

I walked earlier today with no crutches. Felt nice!

Video is on the IG stories and Week 3 highlight reels

Great Progress man! BTW cool book on your desk exactly what you need, when lengthening.