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spaller2015

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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #248 on: May 19, 2015, 12:45:32 AM »

Dear Spaller

It depends on the type of work you are performing.
For a person working at an office they can deal with the procedure and walk on crutches to their jobs after 3-4 weeks.

As an example, i have a patient who works as a computer programmer who Was out of office 3 weeks for the first Limb, and 16 days for limb 2.

Surgery 2 Took place 3.5 months after surgery 1 for a bilateral 6 cm lengthening.
He is Currently working and lengthening (1 cm to final target).

Other type of jobs (more physical) require full recovery of the ability to walk unaided.

Kind regards

Thank you doctor for your answers. You're very kind.
Musicmaker, are you this patient or a different one? Could you (also) go back to work in 3-4 weeks?
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #249 on: May 19, 2015, 02:12:31 PM »

i have decided to do surgery with Dr. Monegal. I have constulation 1 june and probably will be doing my surgery the same day.

Internal femurs + arm lengthening is my prefered situation right now.
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #250 on: May 19, 2015, 03:06:34 PM »

May I ask you how much you plan to lengthen and whats your starting height and wingspan?
Keep us updated about that please, I´m highly considering him and I think some others do that too.
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #251 on: May 22, 2015, 11:26:43 PM »

i have decided to do surgery with Dr. Monegal. I have constulation 1 june and probably will be doing my surgery the same day.

Internal femurs + arm lengthening is my prefered situation right now.

The same day?   ??? ???
Perhaps you can meet musicmaker also.
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #252 on: May 23, 2015, 05:22:55 AM »

Musicmaker and Slim_tim why wont you make a diary? It would be great  ::)
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #253 on: May 23, 2015, 09:59:10 PM »

Musicmaker and Slim_tim why wont you make a diary? It would be great  ::)

I would love to read a diary by Musicmaker. She was the first patient of dr monegal who posted here. She has very good English and is a good writer like Medium Drink of Water. She's funny, besides. But she doesn't want to.  :'(
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #254 on: May 24, 2015, 08:44:55 PM »

I tried to make it the same day but it didnt work (talk in the morning- Surgery after 12). So consulation one week before surgery as of now.

yeah i might start a diary, but mostly i find diaries only usefull when you first get to know LL, once you know the ins and outs there is pretty much nothing new to add, Tons of great diaries out there already. As i said before i depends on my general mood the day of the surgery. If im mad/confused i often shut down and can go days without talking/texting to someone.

I will post pictures of doctor and hospital-hotel with some general info to help future patients who wants to come to barcelona.
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #255 on: May 24, 2015, 09:00:08 PM »

I tried to make it the same day but it didnt work (talk in the morning- Surgery after 12). So consulation one week before surgery as of now.

yeah i might start a diary, but mostly i find diaries only usefull when you first get to know LL, once you know the ins and outs there is pretty much nothing new to add, Tons of great diaries out there already. As i said before i depends on my general mood the day of the surgery. If im mad/confused i often shut down and can go days without talking/texting to someone.

I will post pictures of doctor and hospital-hotel with some general info to help future patients who wants to come to barcelona.

Great! Good luck! Can you post pictures from MM also?  :P
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #256 on: May 24, 2015, 09:38:10 PM »

Dr. Monegal accepts schizophrenic patients?
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #257 on: May 24, 2015, 10:23:58 PM »

Sorry if this has already been asked/answered but does this doctor ever do LON/LATN?
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #258 on: May 24, 2015, 11:32:51 PM »

Dont know if they perform Lon i was in ukraine last week. They still do lon there though.
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #259 on: May 24, 2015, 11:46:05 PM »

Modern and exclusive operating rooms include 6 theatresand 3 delivery rooms, fully equipped with state of the art technology designed to provide patients with the greatest comfort and service. The clínic also offers a Non Admittance Surgical Unit (NASU) with 12 beds.

The Emergency area has been created with the same idea in mind. It boasts 8 consultancy rooms, open 24/7/365 and our team of medical and surgical specialists is highly experienced in handling all cases, be they general, paediatric, trauma and orthopaedic, gynaecological, surgical, or ophthalmological.

The Clinic also has an important outpatient surgery facility with 20 consulting rooms that can attend to the needs of over 400 patients per day along with an Intensive Care Unit with 6 ICU beds.

Clinica Diagonal also uses the latest technology in diagnostic imaging, with the latest and most modern equipment in CT and MRI scans, digital mammography, densitometry, ultrasound ecography and conventional x-rays. It also has a digestive and respiratory endoscopy unit with sedation.

In oncology our clinic has 3 single rooms, where outpatient cytostatic therapy is provided for day hospital patients.
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #260 on: May 25, 2015, 11:54:20 AM »

My recovery with doctor monegal go very well.
I had my surgery in 18 on february, and i finished my lengthening 3 weeks ago. Now i'm walking with one crutch.
We are planing the next surgery, the right leg in july. I lengthening 5,7 cm in left tibia.
I have a little pain in the bottom part of my tibia when i walk, but it will be better with time.
Cheers, paco.
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #261 on: May 25, 2015, 12:52:40 PM »

My recovery with doctor monegal go very well.
I had my surgery in 18 on february, and i finished my lengthening 3 weeks ago. Now i'm walking with one crutch.
We are planing the next surgery, the right leg in july. I lengthening 5,7 cm in left tibia.
I have a little pain in the bottom part of my tibia when i walk, but it will be better with time.
Cheers, paco.
Are you from Spain? I'm very interested in this doctor. I wish you the best for your recovery  ;)
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #262 on: May 25, 2015, 04:23:24 PM »

Yes, i am from spain.
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #263 on: May 25, 2015, 04:44:09 PM »

Yes, i am from spain.
Now you are using right leg for walk like hop walk?
And then In July you will use left leg for walk?
How?is it still in recover phase?
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #264 on: May 25, 2015, 05:07:19 PM »

I use both, right and left legs, and one crutch.
In july i will use my left legt and cructhes to walk.
In my operated leg i wear one boot and in the other leg one boot with lift to compensate.
I walk a lot during the day, 2 hours or more in the corridor, and biking 40 minutes per day.
I can extend my leg 180º and bend like before the surgery. I have a lot of tension in the calf muscle area and the achiles tendon  area, but i don't have ballerina foot.
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #265 on: May 25, 2015, 05:10:00 PM »

I use both, right and left legs, and one crutch.
In july i will use my left legt and cructhes to walk.
In my operated leg i wear one boot and in the other leg one boot with lift to compensate.
I walk a lot during the day, 2 hours or more in the corridor, and biking 40 minutes per day.
I can extend my leg 180º and bend like before the surgery. I have a lot of tension in the calf muscle area and the achiles tendon  area, but i don't have ballerina foot.
Glad to hear thaat
Hope you complete your diary without any problem.
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #266 on: May 25, 2015, 05:16:40 PM »

Thank you very much.
I hope the other leg go as well like this.
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #267 on: May 27, 2015, 06:30:22 AM »

Did you go home after the surgery? Do you life in Barcelona or somewhere else in Spain? May you list up your expenses so far? I´d be very interested about that!
Cheers!
« Last Edit: May 27, 2015, 06:54:52 AM by Alittletooshort »
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #268 on: May 27, 2015, 09:05:41 AM »

I live 600 km from barcelona. I was 6 days in the hospital and then i  went home.
Every three weeks i do x-ray
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #269 on: May 27, 2015, 03:14:27 PM »

Do you know if there is something like a medical credit or something offered by the clinic?
In my case, I am missing around 10 000€ before I could do the surgery and have some money on the side for PT and complications. It'll probably take longer than a year for me to collect it and I'd like to get it done earlier.
Perhaps Dr. Monegal could inform me about that.
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #270 on: May 27, 2015, 03:36:22 PM »

I think you can finance the inplants fitbone. But it's better you speak with doctor Monegal.
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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #271 on: May 31, 2015, 05:57:26 AM »

Let me say it this way..one patient died after bilateral simultaneous femur doing intramedullary device (fortunately not one of my patients) and it s not a matter of safety, it is a matter that if surgeons are aware of this, none of them will carry on doing bilateral because of legal issues.

I asked Dr Parihar's assistant Dr Ahuja (or Dr Divya as I always called him) about doing one leg at a time as opposed to bilaterial tibs or bilateral femurs to help prevent embolism and he responded "But you are still reaming two bones, how are you reducing the risk of embolism?"

I think the subject of fat embolism is interesting here. As Dr. Parihar's assistant suggests, you will still be doing both legs in the end. So the total risk of experiencing fat embolism will not be changed overall.

As I can imagine it, the advantage of doing it in two stages would be that if you are prone to fat embolism (or your surgeon is too aggressive in reaming), doing it in two stages would likely ensure the resulting embolism would be smaller as it would be coming from only one femur, and not possibly both femurs simultaneously.

A fat embolism from one femur would be damaging, but a fat embolism from both femurs simultaneously could be catastrophic.

But if this is the main concern regarding doing both femurs in the same operation, there is another solution. You could do one femur one day. Then one or two weeks later, he could do the second femur. You would still be spacing the operations apart. This provides the benefit of avoiding the possibility of bilateral femoral fat embolism. But it still allows you to get both legs lengthened over the same time frame.

The disadvantage of course is that you need to go under anesthesia twice, but I think could be worthwhile. Also, having both legs broken simultaneously means you can't be weight bearing on one leg during recovery. But for example, for myself, I don't think having one leg to hop around on would be that helpful anyway. I need to be able to stand and walk freely for my job. Personally, I would rather be in a wheelchair for 3 months than hopping around for 6-7 months.

I think Dr. Monegal raises a good point about avoiding reaming both femurs during the same operation. But as I have described, that does not necessitate letting one leg fully heal before doing the other. Even spacing the two operations a few days would be sufficient, providing the first operation goes without complication.

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« Reply #272 on: June 01, 2015, 03:01:10 AM »

On another note, I've been thinking more about Dr. Monegal's suggestion to consider doing femur & fibula simultaneously.

I think I may be sincerely considering it. The benefits are you maintain a better tib/femur ratio. In addition, because each bone has less to grow, the time for distraction/consolidation are both cut down.

Hypothetically, if you did 2.5" femur and 1.5" tibia with both legs (staggered 1-4 weeks), you'd be looking at:

- 63 days distraction (1mm/day femur)
- 6 months consolidation (based on consolidation index of 1.07 (0.75–1.62) months/cm)

In other words, it's a 8 month process for 4" balanced over all four segments. And since you're not stretching more than one segment very far, the contractures should be better spread around and less intense in any one spot. I am guessing you could start using crutches roughly half way through consolidation, so maybe 4-5 months in a wheelchair.

If you did each leg one at a time, you would be looking at a 1 year process.

I think this may be a valid option in particular because it maintains normal proportions. With Dr. Baumgart's Reverse Planning Method which Dr. Monegal uses, you also have the potential for perfectly aligned limbs after - likely better than they are before. I have a bit of tibial varus but my tibias are too long to be lengthened exclusively. So this appeals to me greatly.

It's a shame that the nail isn't full weight bearing. This would otherwise be an expensive but otherwise near perfect approach.

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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #273 on: June 24, 2015, 09:45:29 PM »

Dr Monegal said I could go to Barcelona to watch one of his surgeries but he doesnt answer my emails nows. Dr Monegal, are you there? When can I go to watch one of your surgeries? Do you regret having offered this chance to me? Why don't you answer my pms?
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« Reply #274 on: June 25, 2015, 09:31:00 AM »

Dear GH

It is Not a straigth forward thing to do as you need both (Clinic and Patient) consent for you to se a procedure. As I told you you can come of course as soon as a patient gives me consent for you to watch his/her procedure.

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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #275 on: June 27, 2015, 09:24:34 PM »

What is the price difference between bilateral femurs (1x2femurs) and unilateral femurs (2x1femur)?
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« Reply #276 on: June 28, 2015, 11:02:31 AM »

Dear Axel

Difference is basically hospital stay and anaesthetics. It is approximately 2000€.
As a cost is a bit higher but doing 2 stage allows patients to go back to a 'quite normal' activity much earlier. Most patients can go back to office work walking on crutches, si their productivity is not very much affected.
In my opinion It is worth to do it in 2 stage.

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Re: Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal
« Reply #277 on: June 28, 2015, 11:45:30 PM »

Okay thanks,

next question haha.

A significant number of patients that lengthened their tibias complain about the loss of athletic ability.

If I try to imagine myself with lenthened tibias or lengthened femurs, I feel like lengthened tibias would be worse for my athletic ability. do you agree?
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« Reply #278 on: August 03, 2015, 07:05:49 PM »

Hi forum.
I had my other surgery with doctor Monegal, my right leg, the 11 on july. I was in clinica diagonal, with cooper, musicmaker, and other guy from spain too. Now i have lengthen 2cm more or less. I can walk with cructches in my home. The worst are the firsts two weeks, when i had more pain. The third week is better, and before this, the procedure is much more easy.
My goal is 6cm, and i hope finish in the second week of september.
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