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[Taller90]

Size of them leg muscles too 

Great work bro!

Thanks to all of you. I had strong legs before the surgery as well but I lost about 7 kg due to the surgery which mostly were muscles.
Therefore, I am very happy to get at least some of them back but it was hard ongoing work!

[Taller90]

Just a short update, now almost 11 months post-surgery and 7 months post-lengthening

I don´t have any stiffness or other muscular problems anymore. I have been visiting Dr. Becker 2 weeks ago to do some new x-rays and the bone consolidation went also very well so far, so that I am now back to improve my jogging skills. Right now, I am at 6 km/h for 15 minutes, will see how far I can come back until summer. If everything went well, I should be able to do the removal this autumn. I am now also considering to do the tibias. In fact really nobody in the daily life noticed my new Tibia/Femur-ratio but it bothered me personal because someone who has the eyes for can see that me femur (51,5cm) is a bit to long for my tibia (33,5cm).

However, I will need to see, if I am really going to do another surgery as well but if so then I will only do 5 or 6 cm on tibia. This would boost my Tibia/Femur-ratio to around 76% which is at least close to ideal. I will keep you updated.



 

[Kanye Western]

Just a short update, now almost 11 months post-surgery and 7 months post-lengthening

I don´t have any stiffness or other muscular problems anymore. I have been visiting Dr. Becker 2 weeks ago to do some new x-rays and the bone consolidation went also very well so far, so that I am now back to improve my jogging skills. Right now, I am at 6 km/h for 15 minutes, will see how far I can come back until summer. If everything went well, I should be able to do the removal this autumn. I am now also considering to do the tibias. In fact really nobody in the daily life noticed my new Tibia/Femur-ratio but it bothered me personal because someone who has the eyes for can see that me femur (51,5cm) is a bit to long for my tibia (33,5cm).

However, I will need to see, if I am really going to do another surgery as well but if so then I will only do 5 or 6 cm on tibia. This would boost my Tibia/Femur-ratio to around 76% which is at least close to ideal. I will keep you updated.

The fact you did over 10cm and recovered is great. Well done brother

[ikocak]

It's really inspiring and your recovery gives me strength for doing this surgery. I'm really happy for you man! I hope one day I have enough courage to do LL

[YOUNGandSTRONG]

wow 12 cm in a single segment is inspiring and unheard of, I have always known betzbone extension is 12 cm but achieving full nail extension is a sporadic occurrence. Please keep posting man

[sphenopetroclival]

If you have recent imaging data please put it at this thread. Redact any information that could be used to dox you.

[Oeconomo]

Hey Taller90 ! congrats on those 11cm, it looks like a hard but worth journey.
I am doing LL with Becker in January 2024, I am 163cm and looking for 10cm.

All of the photos you posted are not accessible anymore, the links send to 404 page. Would you mind to post again some of them ? to see the before-after and proportions ?
Thanks !!

[Taller90]

Update 1 year-post Clicking

Hey folks, it is already one year ago when I have been reaching my current new height of 173,5 cm. I am more then happy to have been doing this surgery. In my case everything went well and I am now fully recovered. My bones are fully consolidated, so that I can do the removal soon.

As some questions have been shown up regarding the ratio, of course this is (with 0,65) out of the normal range but I don´t have any problems walkin, jogging or doing other sport and more important when I am wearing clothes nobody is noticing it. Only when I am nked it looks a bit off but even then nobody asked me when I was in a wellness center going to a sauna etc.

I will try to upload some fresh photos when I am gonna have some time. Finally, I stick with my personal believe that weight-bearing nails are a game changer as it allows you to start with the recovery immediatly after the surgery and this enables you to reach long distances and a better recovery at all. There is a reason why professional Athletes are trying to start with their rehabilitation treatment as soon as possible after an injury. Weeks or months in a wheel chair is the worst you can do.

[Rockstarz5]

The PT is included in the cost or is extra money?..

[Bagga]

Update 1 year-post Clicking

Hey folks, it is already one year ago when I have been reaching my current new height of 173,5 cm. I am more then happy to have been doing this surgery. In my case everything went well and I am now fully recovered. My bones are fully consolidated, so that I can do the removal soon.

As some questions have been shown up regarding the ratio, of course this is (with 0,65) out of the normal range but I don´t have any problems walkin, jogging or doing other sport and more important when I am wearing clothes nobody is noticing it. Only when I am nked it looks a bit off but even then nobody asked me when I was in a wellness center going to a sauna etc.

I will try to upload some fresh photos when I am gonna have some time. Finally, I stick with my personal believe that weight-bearing nails are a game changer as it allows you to start with the recovery immediatly after the surgery and this enables you to reach long distances and a better recovery at all. There is a reason why professional Athletes are trying to start with their rehabilitation treatment as soon as possible after an injury. Weeks or months in a wheel chair is the worst you can do.

why are you a bit off when nked? your hands and body is much shorter than your legs??

[Oeconomo]

hey ! I'm 163 doing 10cm with Becker in january so same situation.
-you say you are fully recovered : no more duck ass ? Walking looks/feels normal ?
- you say legs look off only when nked. How about arms ? is there sometimes a feeling of weird proportions, even if very small ? is that feeling less strong than with legs ? and appart from how it looks, do you ever "feel" that your arms are short ?

Thanks !!

[Beemer m3]

10 cm is a huge accomplishment. i can barely go through 8cm. i got less motivated day by day. just staying home all day. i was a delivery driver before this so maybe why im so bored just waiting.

[Gotenks]

Glad to hear you are fully recovered! Looking forward to the pictures.

I'm going for femurs on 5 December.

[Rockstarz5]

If the recovery is boring well is good..

[Joytoy1]

Now, I would be able to do homeoffice but at the beginning it would have been very difficult to work 8 Hours even at home, if you want to do all of Dr. betzs instructions. One hour PT, one hour gym, 3-5 times stretching (which usually Takes 1 hour as well) will keep you busy the most of your day. At the beginning I have needed about 1 hour for 18-20 klicks on both legs. Now, I am done in five minutes

So if you want to work you  will need to do less and this will probably effect your recovery time

Awesome results you are an inspiration to me.
In this post you mention stretching 3-4times a day which took you 1 hour + gym and so on. Recently you said you did stretch 3-4hours each day. What is now true?
Was it possible to work in the homeoffice after the 2nd week in terms of pain?
I also want 10cm in Femurs. But wonder about the proportio s being off after.
I'm glad you made it

[Taller90]

why are you a bit off when nked? your hands and body is much shorter than your legs??

It is just because of the new femur/tibia ratio. Obviously everyone with a medicine background notice that this does not look normal. My arms are as my body was enough long before as well

[Taller90]

Awesome results you are an inspiration to me.
In this post you mention stretching 3-4times a day which took you 1 hour + gym and so on. Recently you said you did stretch 3-4hours each day. What is now true?
Was it possible to work in the homeoffice after the 2nd week in terms of pain?
I also want 10cm in Femurs. But wonder about the proportio s being off after.
I'm glad you made it

Thanks.
Yes, you can do Homeoffice the pain is feasible. The time is more the critical part. I had the luck focus on the lengthening and spent the whole day with stretching, physio, walking, gym etc but I lengthen a lot and that in a quite short time. So maybe if you do less and longer you would have more time to do other things like work but this might be different from person to person. You need to figure out how much you need. Nobody can give you the right blueprint for that…

[Beemer m3]

nice thread. ive always wonder how they do the clicking. ive only seen one video of it. it seems ok. just heard about the pain clicking and nail being infected. still this might be my next preferred choice. people seeing u with duck ass at the gym is ok to you?

[Oeconomo]

Hope you are doing well ! I've been following and interacting with your posts for some time now; I have my surgery in February with Becker and payed everything, so there is nothing stoping this except if I decide to.
With all those treads talking bad stuff about betzbone, a little anxiety builds up, but journals like yours help me keep confident.
How are you feeling now ? mobility, pain ? Have you any regrets up until this point ? Do you consider that your life has improved ?

Thanks again you are a great motivation !

[Taller90]

Hope you are doing well ! I've been following and interacting with your posts for some time now; I have my surgery in February with Becker and payed everything, so there is nothing stoping this except if I decide to.
With all those treads talking bad stuff about betzbone, a little anxiety builds up, but journals like yours help me keep confident.
How are you feeling now ? mobility, pain ? Have you any regrets up until this point ? Do you consider that your life has improved ?

Thanks again you are a great motivation !

In the meantime I had the removal  as well and I am on a good way to get to the conditions I had before the removal surgery which was a more or less a fully recovery. Before the removal, I was able to do every sport, run, jump - well the only thing I was not able to do where squads due to my proportions I would have fallen back. Beside of that I felt like I never had done any surgery before. No muscle stiffness, pain or similar anymore.

I don´t know where this bull ting regarding betzbone is coming from. In fact it is currently the best nail in the market because it is weight bearing and already proven over a long time. Will see how the precise Max is going to be and if they got rid of the corrosion problems Stryde has, I would personally feel uncomfortable using it from the early beginning but that's just my personal 2 cents.

Every other nail might make sense if you go for "normaler" distances but, if you want to do longer lengthening you need to stick with a weight bearing nail. I don´t know how crippled I would get, if I would have been forced to be in a wheelchair the whole lengthening. Early and regular mobilization is the most important beside of stretching of course

So good luck with your surgery!

[Oeconomo]

Thank you for your reply, this is very helpful ! I fell relieved.
I am kind of in your situation: 163, hoping for 10, with a little anxiety about proportions but prioritizing height since I consider myself to be on the "too short" spectrum.
In your diary, there are several links to photos you've post, but all of them are 404 pages. Would it be possible to ask for some photos of before/after, in regard to proportions? It would be incredibly helpful since I'm starting at the same point.

Best regards !

[bruhh]

Will you do anything to address your wingspan being 18 cm shorter than your height? Admire your dedication!

[Taller90]

Will you do anything to address your wingspan being 18 cm shorter than your height? Admire your dedication!

Indeed this was my only concern but right now I am at a difference of 14cm (I am at 175,5cm height at the moment) and so far I am totally fine. Will check it further and stop with the tibia lengthening before it start to look weird.

However, so far all people (doc, friends etc say that I could go for another couple of cm). One reason might be because i am not tiny  and have a good torso length which fits to a height of someone who is 178-180.

But I will not go for arm lengthening. For sure!

[Taller90]

Guys I just wanted to let you know, I am done with tibia LL. I ended up at 5cm and although it is just a couple of cm my leg proportions look much better and are now back to the "normal" range. My LBR is excellent, too. It was not an easy decision as when the end was coming closer I was indeed thinking of doing 5,5 or 6 cm to improve the ratio even more and be closer to the 180 but then my arms would start to look short, so I have decided with the doc to stop at 5. It is a shame because my body would accept much more I guess - the lengthening was quite ok until 5 cm - but it is not worth to push it too much. So finally, I have push it to the maximum my body proportion allow it and I am really happy with the result. Overall I have lengthened about 15,70cm and ended up at a proper 5´10 (177,8-178,3 cm)

What is different to the femur LL is that I have the feeling that the recovery goes much faster. I am already able to walk without crutches and normally, if I walk slowly and concentrate myself. I do this just at home and in the gym but outside I am still strictly using crutches which looks weird to other people as they do not see why I am using them 

Can´t wait until I can drop them off at all and live my life like before - just taller 

 

[AnotherLLer]

So, you went from 162.5 to 178 (15.5 cm total lengthening) and end up with -18 cm armspan? Does it mean that your armspan is 160 cm long? If that's true, than you had -1 inch negative ape index at your original height, which is kinda rare for males.

Now, at -18 cm armspan, it's very interesting how do you look nked barefeet in boxers and in clothes with tucked in shirt with pants set at waist level and wearing 3 cm heeled shoes.

[Taller90]

So, you went from 162.5 to 178 (15.5 cm total lengthening) and end up with -18 cm armspan? Does it mean that your armspan is 160 cm long? If that's true, than you had -1 inch negative ape index at your original height, which is kinda rare for males.

Now, at -18 cm armspan, it's very interesting how do you look nked barefeet in boxers and in clothes with tucked in shirt with pants set at waist level and wearing 3 cm heeled shoes.

I look good my body length 88,5 fits perfect to my new leg length (89cm). Just my ape index ist weird from a number perspective. I was unsure before as well how this is going to look like but everyone who see me now gives me compliments. Maybe it does not look off because I am not the tiny guy who have some muscles. On the other hand there is some research around attractiveness and ratios and the arm is the most unimportant one. Of course I would be even better with 8cm longer arms but as said nobody notice anything negative re my arm length.

So I would do it again, if I would be 162 with mini legs and normal torso.

Proportions are important but should be taken too precise. The range of natural human looks is wide.

[Taller90]

So, you went from 162.5 to 178 (15.5 cm total lengthening) and end up with -18 cm armspan? Does it mean that your armspan is 160 cm long? If that's true, than you had -1 inch negative ape index at your original height, which is kinda rare for males.

Now, at -18 cm armspan, it's very interesting how do you look nked barefeet in boxers and in clothes with tucked in shirt with pants set at waist level and wearing 3 cm heeled shoes.

… with3-4 cm heels it is slowly starting to look unusual. So I am not wearing my airmax anymore but normal sneakers/shoes which have heels usually around 2-2,5cm are fine. Of course barfeet it looks the best.

[AnotherLLer]

I understand that you had no room to match your wingspan post-lengthening as it was already an inch shorter compared to your starting height but 6 inches of lengthening is kinda too much anyways, disregarding the armspan factor.

[Robert Adam]

Taller 90, How much did you lengthen the femurs and the tibias?

[Taller90]

Taller 90, How much did you lengthen the femurs and the tibias?

Hey I am happy to share my experiences and answer questions but please read my diary first….
Don’t wanna to repeat everything.

Thanks

[Average]

Hi Taller90, can you talk more about how your femur recovery went versus what you are now experiencing with your Tibias.   I am super interested as I had Femurs done with Becker in January 24, and want to do Tibias in January 25.  I am recovering well ( 7.2cm on Femurs) but it has been slower than I had hoped for the stiffness to go away.  No running yet! Any info comparing the two would be great. Ta