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[LG1816]

Hi,

I’m considering getting limb lengthening surgery on my tibias to increase 1.5 inches, but I understand most people do more than this.

Essentially, I just want to be average height. When I go out I feel noticeably short, and I consider myself being at a big dating disadvantage at the height I am versus someone who is 5’10. Even though it’s only an inch difference, I feel the two heights are the benchmark for looking short. At 5’9 your proportions look shortish, but 5’10 in shoes is more ambiguous and you blend in more. No one really thinks you’re short at 5’10.

If I could get to average height I’d feel so much happier, but I’m also open to the fact that I’m obsessing about my height which may be giving me a distorted outlook. Maybe people don’t really consider me short, and maybe I don’t look as short as I think I do.

I’m considering going to Russia for the surgery where it’s cheaper, and of course, if I only increase an inch, surely the risk of complications and my recovery time will go way down — how long would it take to walk normally again from start to finish with LON for 3cm tibias?

I suppose my main overarching question is, am I crazy for wanting to do this in the first place?

Thanks.

[NotTall84]

I am also 5'9 and feel short. I know it's not the worse thing, but the truth is, we are below average. That being said, I personally would not do it unless I would be going up 3 inches at least.

Maybe try fixing your posture and seeing if you can gain and inch.

[ilovescience]

Hi,

I’m considering getting limb lengthening surgery on my tibias to increase 1.5 inches, but I understand most people do more than this.

Essentially, I just want to be average height. When I go out I feel noticeably short, and I consider myself being at a big dating disadvantage at the height I am versus someone who is 5’10. Even though it’s only an inch difference, I feel the two heights are the benchmark for looking short. At 5’9 your proportions look shortish, but 5’10 in shoes is more ambiguous and you blend in more. No one really thinks you’re short at 5’10.

If I could get to average height I’d feel so much happier, but I’m also open to the fact that I’m obsessing about my height which may be giving me a distorted outlook. Maybe people don’t really consider me short, and maybe I don’t look as short as I think I do.

I’m considering going to Russia for the surgery where it’s cheaper, and of course, if I only increase an inch, surely the risk of complications and my recovery time will go way down — how long would it take to walk normally again from start to finish with LON for 3cm tibias?

I suppose my main overarching question is, am I crazy for wanting to do this in the first place?

Thanks.

I think you would recover very quickly by doing just 3cm, but most people who chose the surgery would go for more, like 6cm at least. The surgery is expensive.

[AllinStryde]

If you think that one inch is what's holding your dating life back...and that going from 5'9" to 5'10" is going to make all the difference in the world...then your height is not what's holding your dating life back. 

[JJ299]

Yeah you are 5'9 which is 1 SD of average height. You are basically spending 60k+, 6 months of yout life with limited mobility, and risk of disability just so you can gain 1 inch( most LLer do 6-7cm). To be honest nobody will even notice you got taller with that change and girls won't treat you differently. If you really think that 1in will change your life just get a 3cm insole ( it's legit unnoticeable ).

[ilovescience]

Yeah you are 5'9 which is 1 SD of average height. You are basically spending 60k+, 6 months of yout life with limited mobility, and risk of disability just so you can gain 1 inch( most LLer do 6-7cm). To be honest nobody will even notice you got taller with that change and girls won't treat you differently. If you really think that 1in will change your life just get a 3cm insole ( it's legit unnoticeable ).

Wearing a 3cm insole shoes, probably won't be noticed by others if wearing long pants? Wearing short pants and if people surrounding you look at what shoes you wear ( if they are shoes lovers), they would notice that it's insole.

[JJ299]

Wearing a 3cm insole shoes, probably won't be noticed by others if wearing long pants? Wearing short pants and if people surrounding you look at what shoes you wear ( if they are shoes lovers), they would notice that it's insole.

If they look really closely and try to see if you are wearing insoles sure but 99/100 people aren't doing that. Just wear airmaxxs,Jordans, or even timberlands and it's virtually unnoticeable ( just don't wear Vans and insoles together ).

[LG1816]

But look at this graph: https://incels.wiki/images/5/59/Sergg.jpg  At 5’10 you’re fine, but at 5’9 a guys height is drastically less acceptable. And you hear all the time “what do you call a guy under 5’10? A friend.”

I get told I’m good looking but I just feel so short and unmasculine when I go out. I don’t see how I could feel like that at 5’10 because I’d just be considered average. I don’t think it would make all the difference in the world, but I feel like going from the short category to average would be a big jump.

And with shoes or lifts, I already do that. The issues is you have to take them off at some point. I already avoid any situation where I have to take shoes off because everyone would notice I was an inch shorter.

[pandemic_exploiter]

No way are you citing a graph from an incel page haha. Trust me, women can't tell just how tall a guy is from looks. Guaranteed no woman looks at you and thinks 5"9. Say 5"10 and they'll believe. And stay off that incel crap, if you're not an incel, looking at that page will make you one lol

[HeightGain]

1.5 on tibias is a good amount. Femurs 2 inches

The difference between 5'9 and 5'11 is massive. From well under average to about average for younger people. At 5'9, from where I live, you're shorter or the same height as a lot of women. That 2 inches means only a few women in heels are taller

[informationispower]

Nothing like good old incel filled topics

[TheDream]

It depends on how much money you have available.

The advantages of doing 1.5 inches on tibias is that you will likely recover well if you choose an expensive an experienced doctor.

The disadvantage is that it will likely not make a big difference. Although I would say: When you are at 175 cm range getting to 178 cm will statistically make a bigger jump in population ranking than if you went from say 163 cm to 166 cm (i.e. You go from being shorter than about 60% of the young male population to about 50%).

The disadvantage could be mitigated if you chose to then do say 4 cm in femurs bringing you up to 182 cm. The point being that by doing modest amounts in each section you increase probability of recovering a lot of your athletic ability over time compared to someone who does say 8 cm in femur or tibia.

tl;Dr if you are rich I’d say go for it. If not, and you have to choose a cheap doctor to do it then id say not worth the risk of him doing a bad job and you end up in a wheelchair and very poor for 3 cm.

If you think you have it bad now, remember, it could be a lot worse. Even though our minds make us believe nothing could be worse, it could.

[Upgrade]

1.5 Inches is about 4 CM.

Yes, 4 CM on the tibia is good.

All good doctors do not recommend more than 5 CM.

[Sambollio]

Ironically I think the taller you are the more smaller height increases are beneficial. Going from 5’4 to 5’5.5 is really not going to change much but going from 5’11 to 6’0.5 is going to put you in a different “height category”.  I think going from 5’9 to 5’10.5 will provide a noticeable difference in the way people see you and the way you see yourself. I’m 5’9 and one of my closest friends is 5’10.5. The height difference very noticeable. It’s actually amazing how much I get made fun of for my height in the US despite the fact I’m basically average.

What I don’t understand is why you are going for the more painful, expensive, sketchy bone to lengthen when you could do femurs and potentially hit the magic 6 foot mark while paying less, suffering less and with a lower complication risk.

[AimHigh]

I am in Australia, I notice many young white females are around 5 9 here (even my own granddaughter !) , I don't generally find them attractive tbh (usually big shoulders and waists) -  so glad my beautiful wife is 5 4.5 and well proportioned.

[ilovescience]

I am in Australia, I notice many young white females are around 5 9 here (even my own granddaughter !) , I don't generally find them attractive tbh (usually big shoulders and waists) -  so glad my beautiful wife is 5 4.5 and well proportioned.

The young white females who are around 5'9 are people under age of 40?

That's quite tall. I think girls in Australia are fond of sports, like swimming, basketball. That could be another factor why young women are taller. For men, a lot are taller than 6 feet there?...

[AimHigh]

i think it is a combination of factors eg the high protein (meat/dairy) diet,  low stress/relaxed lifestyle with weekly sport (plenty of sleep and HGH release), ethnic background e.g (many Aussies are of  Scandinavian/German/Dutch background - myself included) ....and maybe the GH in meat??

[ilovescience]

i think it is a combination of factors eg the high protein (meat/dairy) diet,  low stress/relaxed lifestyle with weekly sport (plenty of sleep and HGH release), ethnic background e.g (many Aussies are of  Scandinavian/German/Dutch background - myself included) ....and maybe the GH in meat??

Indeed. I think milk products from Australia and New Zealand are very popular. Here in my place they also importing milk and cheese from Australia. They are more expensive than domestic made milk but very good for our bodies

[AimHigh]

I live in a regional area of Australia, lots of big country boys, i think 5 11 is average for the younger (20-35) guys here, but at 5 10.5 I feel more average/taller in the large (Melbourne/Brisbane) cities.

[Tallshortguy96]

I feel like that would be a waste of money, time and pain. Recovery might be easier but still. Like I dont even like the idea if I go from 5'7 to 5'10 with only one surgery but then yeah recovery will s**k if I do more or another surgery. So its your life your choice I guess.

[boklecrt]

ugh

"1.5 inch" - you have absolutely no idea what this entire surgery means with regards to cost, lost time, lost mobility, lost social opportunities, physical pain and mental agony. you need to be legit SHORT and to have lived life of social torture for the entire 6 month long(at minimum) experience to be worth going through

already average and above average zoomers coming over here should just understand that they could never be the 6'4 14yo guy who shakes his brocolli head and dances like a phag and gets all the likes on tiktok