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My old predictions modified
« on: July 17, 2022, 03:44:21 AM »

This predictions are made based on ray kurzweil older predictions, it is basically his old predictions but modified because he got his old predictions right but late by the same amount of time, due to him not knowing that computational price efficiency doubles every 1.57 years (he always said that it was every 12 months but in a 2011 study it was found that it was every 18 months) and also that 3d computer chips won't come out until 2025 and that they need like 14 years to reach their full potential.

All of this predictions come from books from Ray Kurzweil (i just changed the date)

2033 first technologies that will let the average person live to 100 years will come out. Many of the life processes encoded in the human genome, are now largely understood, along with the information-processing mechanisms underlying aging and degenerative conditions such as cancer and heart disease. Computerized health monitors built into watches, jewelry, and clothing which diagnose both acute and chronic health conditions are widely used. in addition to diagnosis, these monitors provide a range of remedial recommendations and interventions.

2030s stem cell growth plate transplant. You will first need to wear smaller or the same size LL fixator device made of metal or other bio-degradable material, then a certain part of your arms or legs would have to be broken or sawed in a certain configuration or shape for the cartilage/growth plate stem cell implant, after one week or some weeks after getting the implant you would be able to remove the external or internal fixator and go home and live your daily live maybe with just some HGH injections because the growth plate would be vascularized with the bone. (This is not a prediction made by Kurzweil, it is just a method proposed and worked by Alexander Teplyashin, Eben Alsberg and other teams, this is just my guess of when it will become possible)

2038 non-sentient companion android robots (robots that are indistinguishable from humans physically)

2038 stem cells will be perfected letting us rejuvenate organs with stem cells and we will have therapies for most forms of cancer. The first batch of drugs to turn off genes and methods to add new genes are now approved therapies (for example removing a gene that makes you more vulnerable to heart disease). Meat is produced by cloning tissue (not animals) in robotic factories. Artificial pancreas. If you want to see more just read the book trascend from ray kurzweil and whenever he says 2023 just imagine 2038 (there are free pdfs in the internet). We will be able to slow down aging with other therapies.

2040 nanotechnology revolution

2046 thanks to the new technologies the average person will be able to live to 120. Progress continues in understanding and ameliorating the effects of aging as a result of a thorough understanding of the information—processing processes controlled through the genetic code. There is growing recognition that continuing extensions to the human life span will involve further use of bionic organs, including portions of the brain. Nanobots are being used as scouts, to a limited extent as repair agents in the bloodstream, and as building blocks for bionic organs.

2047 full immersion virtual reality, with this vr you will be completely transported to a virtual place that feels indistinguishable from reality. The human brain would have no idea that what the person is experiencing was not real at all. Basically the ultimate version of vr.

2045-2050s transdifferentiation of bone to growth plate hyaline cartilage. This is a method that will be non-invasive unlike the other one and you will be able to grow all your body parts. (i don't really know if the scientific community will exist after 2047 or 2038 because all men would be trapped in vr or in their androids, i only know that the price of this research will reach 0 in the 2050s). (This was not predicted by kurzweil, this dea was presented by Eben Alsberg and Senior Researcher from naturalheightgrowth.com)

2053 reverse aging. Nothing more to say, you will be able to go from 60 years old to 16-18 (16-18 years old is when your organs are the strongest and you have no wrinkles). You can just read The age Of Spiritual Machines and The Singularity Is Near and change the word 2030s into 2053. Or you can read the book Transcend and change 2034 to 2053.

I changed my old predictions because i realized that 3d computer chips will start the new computing revolution slow because moore's law will take 12 years to die (it starting slowing in 2013 and it will die in 2025). Also i had a poor wording before with the life expectancy prediction.
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Re: My old predictions modified
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2022, 04:11:23 AM »

Because kurzweil always said that computational price efficiency doubles every year and in the new study says that it is every 1.57 years, i multiplied all of his predictions by 1.57 starting by 1999. I also took into account moore's law losing power after 2013 and they were all right by that amount. for the predictions before 2041 i did add 2 years because the new paradigm that will replace moore's law will start slow.

This video was also helpful in seeing that 2016 was supposed to be 2014 but it wasn't thanks to moore's law slowing.




Kurzweil always thinked that the sixth paradigm (3d computer chips) would come 2013 and that there would be no slowings in technology, that did not happen. Also he thinked that the new paradigm would be at his full speed (this was said by him in an interview made by this article in this text highlighted: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5067661#:~:text=Dr.%20KURZWEIL%3A%20And,at%20its%20limit. )
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2022, 04:39:26 AM »

This predictions are made based on ray kurzweil older predictions, it is basically his old predictions but modified because he got his old predictions right but late by the same amount of time, due to him not knowing that computational price efficiency doubles every 1.57 years (he always said that it was every 12 months but in a 2011 study it was found that it was every 18 months) and also that 3d computer chips won't come out until 2025 and that they need like 14 years to reach their full potential.

All of this predictions come from books from Ray kurzeil (i just changed the date)

2033 first technologies that will let the average person live to 100 years will come out. Many of the life processes encoded in the human genome, are now largely understood, along with the information-processing mechanisms underlying aging and degenerative conditions such as cancer and heart disease. Computerized health monitors built into watches, jewelry, and clothing which diagnose both acute and chronic health conditions are widely used. in addition to diagnosis, these monitors provide a range of remedial recommendations and interventions.

2030s stem cell growth plate transplant. You will first need to wear smaller or the same size LL fixator device made of metal or other bio-degradable material, then a certain part of your arms or legs would have to be broken or sawed in a certain configuration or shape for the cartilage/growth plate stem cell implant, after one week or some weeks after getting the implant you would be able to remove the external or internal fixator and go home and live your daily live maybe with just some HGH injections because the growth plate would be vascularized with the bone. (This is not a prediction made by Kurzweil, it is just a method proposed and worked by Alexander Teplyashin, Eben Alsberg and other teams, this is just my guess of when it will become possible)

2038 non-sentient companion android robots (robots that are indistinguishable from humans physically)

2038 stem cells will be perfected letting us rejuvenate organs with stem cells and we will have therapies for most forms of cancer. The first batch of drugs to turn off genes and methods to add new genes are now approved therapies (for example removing a gene that makes you more vulnerable to heart disease). Meat is produced by cloning tissue (not animals) in robotic factories. Artificial pancreas. If you want to see more just read the book trascend from ray kurzweil and whenever he says 2023 just imagine 2038 (there are free pdfs in the internet). We will be able to slow down aging with other therapies.

2040 nanotechnology revolution

2046 thanks to the new technologies the average person will be able to live to 120. Progress continues in understanding and ameliorating the effects of aging as a result of a thorough understanding of the information—processing processes controlled through the genetic code. There is growing recognition that continuing extensions to the human life span will involve further use of bionic organs, including portions of the brain. Nanobots are being used as scouts, to a limited extent as repair agents in the bloodstream, and as building blocks for bionic organs.

2047 full immersion virtual reality, with this vr you will be completely transported to a virtual place that feels indistinguishable from reality. The human brain would have no idea that what the person is experiencing was not real at all. Basically the ultimate version of vr.

2045-2050s transdifferentiation of bone to growth plate hyaline cartilage. This is a method that will be non-invasive unlike the other one and you will be able to grow all your body parts. (i don't really know if the scientific community will exist after 2047 or 2038 because all men would be trapped in vr or in their androids, i only know that the price of this research will reach 0 in the 2050s). (This was not predicted by kurzweil, this dea was presented by Eben Alsberg and Senior Researcher from naturalheightgrowth.com)

2053 reverse aging. Nothing more to say, you will be able to go from 60 years old to 16-18 (16-18 years old is when your organs are the strongest and you have no wrinkles). You can just read The age Of Spiritual Machines and The Singularity Is Near and change the word 2030s into 2053. Or you can read the book Transcend and change 2034 to 2053.

I changed my old predictions because i realised that 3d computer chips will start the new computing revolution slow because moore's law will took 12 years to die (it starting slowing in 2013 and it will die in 2025). Also i had a poor wording before with the life expectancy prediction.

Maybe you can remove 1 year from all the 2030s predictions, it is unpredictable how much time it will take the sixth paradigm (3d chips) to reach their full potential but i don't believe that you have to remove that year. The predictions after 2040 cannot be changed because the sixth paradigm will not affect them because by that time it should be at his full potential. This is because of kurzweil law of accelerating returns.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2022, 02:49:07 PM »

Maybe you can remove 1 year from all the 2030s predictions, it is unpredictable how much time it will take the sixth paradigm (3d chips) to reach their full potential but i don't believe that you have to remove that year. The predictions after 2040 cannot be changed because the sixth paradigm will not affect them because by that time it should be at his full potential. This is because of kurzweil law of accelerating returns.
yeah, and the most of us are still trying the best to earn, borrow and save money for the LON method  ;D
I think in the near future, it will be clear, that rich people can live much longer and more comfortable... this makes jealoucy and revolution... so later there will be new laws...
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2022, 04:35:38 PM »

yeah, and the most of us are still trying the best to earn, borrow and save money for the LON method  ;D
I think in the near future, it will be clear, that rich people can live much longer and more comfortable... this makes jealoucy and revolution... so later there will be new laws...

Desirable technologies rapidly become ubiquitous and almost free.  It is only when they don't work very well (that is, in early stage of development) that they are expensive and restricted to an elite.
All of this technologies will be available to the average person by that date, there is no technology that is not available to the average consumer today because otherwise that product will fail, iphones never costed a million dollars, a heart traplant is a not a technology, stem cell methods don't work yet
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2022, 04:41:05 PM »

Desirable technologies rapidly become ubiquitous and almost free.  It is only when they don't work very well (that is, in early stage of development) that they are expensive and restricted to an elite.
All of this technologies will be available to the average person by that date, there is no technology that is not available to the average consumer today because otherwise that product will fail, iphones never costed a million dollars, a heart traplant is a not a technology, stem cell methods don't work yet

for example exotic cars and LL are so costly because first of all only 100 exotic cars are made (that gives them the value) and are made by hand, LL it is also costly because there are onlt 100 people in the world who can perform it.

Tell me of one information technology that is so costly that only rich people can afford it
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2022, 04:45:41 PM »

for example exotic cars and LL are so costly because first of all only 100 exotic cars are made (that gives them the value) and are made by hand, LL it is also costly because there are onlt 100 people in the world who can perform it.

Tell me of one information technology that is so costly that only rich people can afford it

information technology: the study or use of systems (especially computers and telecommunications) for storing, retrieving, and sending information.
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2022, 04:56:16 PM »

Because kurzweil always said that computational price efficiency doubles every year and in the new study says that it is every 1.57 years, i multiplied all of his predictions by 1.57 starting by 1999. I also took into account moore's law losing power after 2013 and they were all right by that amount. for the predictions before 2041 i did add 2 years because the new paradigm that will replace moore's law will start slow.

This video was also helpful in seeing that 2016 was supposed to be 2014 but it wasn't thanks to moore's law slowing.




Kurzweil always thinked that the sixth paradigm (3d computer chips) would come 2013 and that there would be no slowings in technology, that did not happen. Also he thinked that the new paradigm would be at his full speed (this was said by him in an interview made by this article in this text highlighted: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5067661#:~:text=Dr.%20KURZWEIL%3A%20And,at%20its%20limit. )

I don't believe we will go back to this trendline in the 2020s, if it does revert back it in the 2020s then you can change 2038 to 2036, 2033 to 2031-2032, 2030s to 2028-2036 and 2040 to 2039.
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2022, 02:45:14 AM »

Desirable technologies rapidly become ubiquitous and almost free.  It is only when they don't work very well (that is, in early stage of development) that they are expensive and restricted to an elite.
All of this technologies will be available to the average person by that date, there is no technology that is not available to the average consumer today because otherwise that product will fail, iphones never costed a million dollars, a heart traplant is a not a technology, stem cell methods don't work yet

Will they be available and affordable for everyone outside of the US?
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2022, 04:40:40 AM »

Will they be available and affordable for everyone outside of the US?

What kind of technologies or therapies are not available in other countries today?
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2022, 01:02:49 PM »

What kind of technologies or therapies are not available in other countries today?

Well I don't know about the States right now, but some countries when doing cosmetic surgery, they don't use stem cell treatment. Some countries are also not allowed to perform LL on people who want to be taller.
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2022, 03:42:59 PM »

I love virtual reality, this can lead me into a beautiful world, not the  ty world I am living right now. :-X
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2022, 05:47:57 PM »

What kind of technologies or therapies are not available in other countries today?

Some drugs aren't.  Several years ago I heard that dental bone grafts are much more expensive if you can even get them at all, although that could have changed by now.  I also read an article about a rich Chinese guy who had cancer in his spine and was going to have to get it cut out, but he was able to afford to go the US to get it zapped and was able to avoid paralysis.
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2022, 06:13:01 PM »

Some drugs aren't.  Several years ago I heard that dental bone grafts are much more expensive if you can even get them at all, although that could have changed by now.  I also read an article about a rich Chinese guy who had cancer in his spine and was going to have to get it cut out, but he was able to afford to go the US to get it zapped and was able to avoid paralysis.

Maybe the same will happen
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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2022, 06:19:45 PM »

Well I don't know about the States right now, but some countries when doing cosmetic surgery, they don't use stem cell treatment. Some countries are also not allowed to perform LL on people who want to be taller.

reverse or anti-aging technology are not cosmetic or will not be.
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2022, 11:45:57 PM »

Finally some fun topic..

2 cent, who wants reversed aging? I'm ready to die of natural cause after having seen what the world and we're made off :)). Leonardo Dicaprio didn't want to bring his kids to this brutal world for the same reason.
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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2022, 12:15:06 AM »

I want it, and I don't care what some crybaby celebrity thinks.  We all need to try harder to make the world better, not give up.
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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2022, 12:46:12 AM »

reverse or anti-aging technology are not cosmetic or will not be.

I meant other technologies that contain cosmetic surgery. Not just antiaging....
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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2022, 03:13:45 AM »

It doesn't mean that we will live forever. We still can die of natural cause. We just have the choice to live much longer.
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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2022, 03:25:43 AM »

It doesn't mean that we will live forever. We still can die of natural cause. We just have the choice to live much longer.

In the late 2050s or in the 2060s nanobots will surround your body. So if an accident happens they will be able to reconstruct you in less than a second. In the 2070s it could be less than milliseconds so you can survive a nuclear bomb.
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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2022, 03:37:44 AM »

In the late 2050s or in the 2060s nanobots will surround your body. So if an accident happens they will be able to reconstruct you in less than a second. In the 2070s it could be less than milliseconds so you can survive a nuclear bomb.

There are hundreds of people being frozen at cryonics as of now, in order to revive them, is nano robot the most important?
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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2022, 03:43:16 AM »

There are hundreds of people being frozen at cryonics as of now, in order to revive them, is nano robot the most important?

We would need nanobots to remove the damage created in their brains and bodies because of freezing. Maybe we could create other thing before.
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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2022, 08:37:13 AM »

Finally some fun topic..

2 cent, who wants reversed aging? I'm ready to die of natural cause after having seen what the world and we're made off :)). Leonardo Dicaprio didn't want to bring his kids to this brutal world for the same reason.
My plan is to die from certain political movement that aims for better lives for people.
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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2022, 08:39:31 AM »

Some drugs aren't.  Several years ago I heard that dental bone grafts are much more expensive if you can even get them at all, although that could have changed by now.  I also read an article about a rich Chinese guy who had cancer in his spine and was going to have to get it cut out, but he was able to afford to go the US to get it zapped and was able to avoid paralysis.
I heard a lot of Chinese nationalists either on Youtube Quora or even Reddit making crazy claims that Chinese medical is the best one all over the world and in developed countries the medical expenses are expensive and doctors are s*t. They are feeling grateful to be living in such a significant country lol
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« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2022, 07:56:07 AM »

IMO virtual reality(but where you don't know you are already in virtual reality) and age reversing technologies are what people need most. I don't know if age reversing can realize permanent life but if it can then this combination is the only relible pathway to happiness in future. 
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« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2022, 08:39:42 AM »

IMO virtual reality(but where you don't know you are already in virtual reality) and age reversing technologies are what people need most. I don't know if age reversing can realize permanent life but if it can then this combination is the only relible pathway to happiness in future.

Virtual reality has been here for a while I think. PS VR for example.

Regarding age reversal, do you think the majority of population in the world would see medicine that can extend healthy life span for another 50  years?
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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2022, 03:33:09 AM »

I looked again at this video and i saw that i forgot to write that we have been getting farther where we are supposed to be technologically exponentially thanks to moore's law slowing, for example in 2014 we were 2 years behind and in 2017 we were 7 years behind. When i made this post i was too lazy to think about it so i just added 2-3 years to the old predictions after i made the 1.57x increase.






So in this video we can see that moore's law started slowing in 2013. Gordon Moore predicted that moore's law would die in 2025. So this makes it 12 years before moore's law dies from 2013, 2025 + 12 = 2037. This means that 2037 will be the year that the sixth paradigm reaches it's full speed. It may probably be 2012 when moore's law started slowing because maybe those supercomputers took 1 year to be build.

If we imagine that the sixth paradigm will increase in speed at the same rate as moore's law started slowing these should be the dates:

So 2038 is 2037

2033 is 2034-2035

Moore's law dying means that we will stop using 2d processors.
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« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2022, 01:13:06 AM »

I looked again at this video and i saw that i forgot to write that we have been getting farther where we are supposed to be technologically exponentially thanks to moore's law slowing, for example in 2014 we were 2 years behind and in 2017 we were 7 years behind. When i made this post i was too lazy to think about it so i just added 2-3 years to the old predictions after i made the 1.57x increase.






So in this video we can see that moore's law started slowing in 2013. Gordon Moore predicted that moore's law would die in 2025. So this makes it 12 years before moore's law dies from 2013, 2025 + 12 = 2037. This means that 2037 will be the year that the sixth paradigm reaches it's full speed. It may probably be 2012 when moore's law started slowing because maybe those supercomputers took 1 year to be build.

If we imagine that the sixth paradigm will increase in speed at the same rate as moore's law started slowing these should be the dates:

So 2038 is 2037

2033 is 2034-2035

Moore's law dying means that we will stop using 2d processors.

*2038 = 2036*
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« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2022, 01:39:01 PM »

Have you ever studied in the techologies taht can improve intelligence?
I am extremely interested in IQ and IQ testing(also aka cognitive testing), and did many IQ tests and I really need them.
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