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I'm officially back in pursuit of CLL again!
« on: March 22, 2022, 08:06:43 PM »

I first read about this surgery perhaps way back in 2009 when I was trying some natural ways to get taller. At the time, the idea (of breaking your bones to be 5cm taller) just sounded insane to me and that there was no way on earth I would do it.

That's basically where I stood for the next following years until just a few years ago, when I was in my mid-20s, I was determined to do it. My original deadline was in 2021. It was one of the reasons why I was tempted to gamble my money more aggressively. Unfortunately, it didn't end well, I practically lost everything and I kind of abandoned the LL plan for a while. I was forced to start everything from zero again and kept myself occupied with other things.

And here I am now in my late 20s. A few more years of my youth have passed. I regret the bad decisions I made and all the time I have wasted although not fully since I still used it for improving other aspects in my life.

However, I must admit that there are some advantages to doing it a little later:

- I get to see if a safer alternative height increase procedure ever comes out (as the poster Extremis predicted back in 2018)

- I get to wait until the LL technology becomes a little more advanced and tested and by that point, we will know more which surgeons are the best who are capable of maintaining consistent results in the long term.

- And most importantly, I have accumulated even more anger in the last couple of years which is important when you undergo such an extreme procedure. It became clearer to me than ever that I can never live my life knowing that I'm not even a full 5'6" man and that I'm universally perceived as "short". And I know that if I don't do it, my future self is going to resent my current self the way my current self resent my past self. And that I will most definitely regret it my deathbed one day.

Another reason that makes me think I should do it is that it just so happens that at 5'6", I'm at the height where you would benefit the most from LL. But by that logic, that means that I'm also the one who's gonna lose the most by not doing it.

I literally have enough money for Dr. Solemin's Conventional Ilizarov advanced scheme that costs 1.433.313 ruble. Obviously, now doesn't seem like a good idea but it could be in 3-4 years when things got better.

Back then, my strongest candidate was Dr. Giotikas but it's gonna cost a lot more. Another one I'll be looking into is probably Dr. Franz Birkholtz who seems like a good ethical doctor.

I just want to do 5-6cm external tibia lengthening with TSF frames so it probably won't be with Paley, not just because he's expensive but also because he exclusively do internal lengthening. If anyone has any recommendations, please let me know!
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Re: I'm officially back in pursuit of CLL again!
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2022, 02:37:14 AM »

What did you gamble your money on? Crypto?
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2022, 02:46:53 AM »

I am geniunely appreciating your return. Height is really a mental killer who can torture you slowly forever until you are totally maddened, kinda like recurrence of drug addiction
So I can totally understand why you opted to come back in LL journey.
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2022, 03:41:44 AM »

Why the hell do you keep changing your screen name? You used to be Tenet, the frustrated short asian guy who fantasizes about beating up tall guys and posts all these videos about your violent fantasies. And you had several names before Tenet.
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2022, 04:30:46 AM »

Why the hell do you keep changing your screen name? You used to be Tenet, the frustrated short asian guy who fantasizes about beating up tall guys and posts all these videos about your violent fantasies. And you had several names before Tenet.
You have fingers. Just search 'Tenet' and you know how wrong you are rn.
I am not that guy clearly.
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2022, 04:56:42 AM »

You have fingers. Just search 'Tenet' and you know how wrong you are rn.
I am not that guy clearly.

I was talking about the original poster, Resiliency, who used to be Tenet.
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2022, 06:27:22 AM »

I was talking about the original poster, Resiliency, who used to be Tenet.

This is why posters shouldn't be able to change their user names.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2022, 07:15:09 AM »

I was talking about the original poster, Resiliency, who used to be Tenet.
Sorry. But I don't sense any intentions that break the rules or even worse in my eyes through just changing his username. I think it's very common among online forums.
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2022, 07:16:44 AM »

This is why posters shouldn't be able to change their user names.
The deficit of changing name is users on this forum do not have 'nickname' but only 'username'. As opposed to this Tapatalk has both username and nickname.
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Re: I'm officially back in pursuit of CLL again!
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2022, 08:27:24 AM »

I am geniunely appreciating your return. Height is really a mental killer who can torture you slowly forever until you are totally maddened, kinda like recurrence of drug addiction
So I can totally understand why you opted to come back in LL journey.

That's great man!
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2022, 01:07:10 AM »

Sorry. But I don't sense any intentions that break the rules or even worse in my eyes through just changing his username. I think it's very common among online forums.

It's not illegal to change your username any more than it is to change your real name. However, some people change their legal name because they have a controversial, ugly, or criminal past identity they are trying to hide. Similarly, some people change their screen names for the same reasons.
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2022, 02:10:48 AM »

It's not illegal to change your username any more than it is to change your real name. However, some people change their legal name because they have a controversial, ugly, or criminal past identity they are trying to hide. Similarly, some people change their screen names for the same reasons.
I know whom you are referring to implictly so you can just explictly call out my name here.
But only thing I can tell you is that since I registered the original account and entered into this forum I was already back then accustomed to changing my username in certain frequency so don't know where you got the idea that I changed my username in order to disguise another new user to avoid being criticized or whatnot.
The post history is exposed in every user's profile and it's meaningless for any mentally matured user to launch any fight against anyone else just bc they said something that ran counter to what they were glad to see in the past, not to mention leading to any feud. So either getting red eyes bc of some stuffs or being too lazy to open one's profile, it can not be self-consistent to change usernames just to keep away from critisms.
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Re: I'm officially back in pursuit of CLL again!
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2022, 05:44:34 AM »

It's not illegal to change your username any more than it is to change your real name. However, some people change their legal name because they have a controversial, ugly, or criminal past identity they are trying to hide. Similarly, some people change their screen names for the same reasons.

And some people change their screen names just for the pleasure.

I frankly don't care about what you or anyone think, I'm not trying to sell anything here.
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Re: I'm officially back in pursuit of CLL again!
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2022, 05:59:10 AM »

I first read about this surgery perhaps way back in 2009 when I was trying some natural ways to get taller. At the time, the idea (of breaking your bones to be 5cm taller) just sounded insane to me and that there was no way on earth I would do it.

That's basically where I stood for the next following years until just a few years ago, when I was in my mid-20s, I was determined to do it. My original deadline was in 2021. It was one of the reasons why I was tempted to gamble my money more aggressively. Unfortunately, it didn't end well, I practically lost everything and I kind of abandoned the LL plan for a while. I was forced to start everything from zero again and kept myself occupied with other things.

You dumny just do it asap. All it take is 6-9 months and you're good to go. 5-6cm on tibias is very very doable man, don't you understand. It took me 5 months to get me to the operation room. 1 year later, boom, wallk, small jump, slow run, squat ass to grasss, etc... Everything back ro normal and you know what i did 8cm on tibias using lon
And here I am now in my late 20s. A few more years of my youth have passed. I regret the bad decisions I made and all the time I have wasted although not fully since I still used it for improving other aspects in my life.

However, I must admit that there are some advantages to doing it a little later:

- I get to see if a safer alternative height increase procedure ever comes out (as the poster Extremis predicted back in 2018)

- I get to wait until the LL technology becomes a little more advanced and tested and by that point, we will know more which surgeons are the best who are capable of maintaining consistent results in the long term.

- And most importantly, I have accumulated even more anger in the last couple of years which is important when you undergo such an extreme procedure. It became clearer to me than ever that I can never live my life knowing that I'm not even a full 5'6" man and that I'm universally perceived as "short". And I know that if I don't do it, my future self is going to resent my current self the way my current self resent my past self. And that I will most definitely regret it my deathbed one day.

Another reason that makes me think I should do it is that it just so happens that at 5'6", I'm at the height where you would benefit the most from LL. But by that logic, that means that I'm also the one who's gonna lose the most by not doing it.

I literally have enough money for Dr. Solemin's Conventional Ilizarov advanced scheme that costs 1.433.313 ruble. Obviously, now doesn't seem like a good idea but it could be in 3-4 years when things got better.

Back then, my strongest candidate was Dr. Giotikas but it's gonna cost a lot more. Another one I'll be looking into is probably Dr. Franz Birkholtz who seems like a good ethical doctor.

I just want to do 5-6cm external tibia lengthening with TSF frames so it probably won't be with Paley, not just because he's expensive but also because he exclusively do internal lengthening. If anyone has any recommendations, please let me know!
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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2022, 06:00:23 AM »

I first read about this surgery perhaps way back in 2009 when I was trying some natural ways to get taller. At the time, the idea (of breaking your bones to be 5cm taller) just sounded insane to me and that there was no way on earth I would do it.

That's basically where I stood for the next following years until just a few years ago, when I was in my mid-20s, I was determined to do it. My original deadline was in 2021. It was one of the reasons why I was tempted to gamble my money more aggressively. Unfortunately, it didn't end well, I practically lost everything and I kind of abandoned the LL plan for a while. I was forced to start everything from zero again and kept myself occupied with other things.

And here I am now in my late 20s. A few more years of my youth have passed. I regret the bad decisions I made and all the time I have wasted although not fully since I still used it for improving other aspects in my life.

However, I must admit that there are some advantages to doing it a little later:

- I get to see if a safer alternative height increase procedure ever comes out (as the poster Extremis predicted back in 2018)

- I get to wait until the LL technology becomes a little more advanced and tested and by that point, we will know more which surgeons are the best who are capable of maintaining consistent results in the long term.

- And most importantly, I have accumulated even more anger in the last couple of years which is important when you undergo such an extreme procedure. It became clearer to me than ever that I can never live my life knowing that I'm not even a full 5'6" man and that I'm universally perceived as "short". And I know that if I don't do it, my future self is going to resent my current self the way my current self resent my past self. And that I will most definitely regret it my deathbed one day.

Another reason that makes me think I should do it is that it just so happens that at 5'6", I'm at the height where you would benefit the most from LL. But by that logic, that means that I'm also the one who's gonna lose the most by not doing it.

I literally have enough money for Dr. Solemin's Conventional Ilizarov advanced scheme that costs 1.433.313 ruble. Obviously, now doesn't seem like a good idea but it could be in 3-4 years when things got better.

Back then, my strongest candidate was Dr. Giotikas but it's gonna cost a lot more. Another one I'll be looking into is probably Dr. Franz Birkholtz who seems like a good ethical doctor.

I just want to do 5-6cm external tibia lengthening with TSF frames so it probably won't be with Paley, not just because he's expensive but also because he exclusively do internal lengthening. If anyone has any recommendations, please let me know!


You dumny just do it asap. All it take is 6-9 months and you're good to go. 5-6cm on tibias is very very doable man, don't you understand. It took me 5 months to get me to the operation room. 1 year later, boom, wallk, small jump, slow run, squat ass to grasss, etc... Everything back ro normal and you know what i did 8cm on tibias using lon
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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2022, 12:50:15 PM »


You dumny just do it asap. All it take is 6-9 months and you're good to go. 5-6cm on tibias is very very doable man, don't you understand. It took me 5 months to get me to the operation room. 1 year later, boom, wallk, small jump, slow run, squat ass to grasss, etc... Everything back ro normal and you know what i did 8cm on tibias using lon

Yeah, I admit I chickened out too much and I have had a series of misfortunes.
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« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2022, 08:15:46 PM »


You dumny just do it asap. All it take is 6-9 months and you're good to go. 5-6cm on tibias is very very doable man, don't you understand. It took me 5 months to get me to the operation room. 1 year later, boom, wallk, small jump, slow run, squat ass to grasss, etc... Everything back ro normal and you know what i did 8cm on tibias using lon

You were squatting ass to grass one year post op? What kind of what were you doing?
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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2022, 05:52:26 AM »

You were squatting ass to grass one year post op? What kind of what were you doing?
Body weight, high bar, low bar,... All kind of. And you will too, 1 year is enough. Speaking from my experience. For now running seems to be the most difficult. I mean fast run like Sprint. For Jogging my legs get numb rather quick too, rope jumping is fine 1 year post op too.
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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2022, 05:57:08 AM »

Yeah, I admit I chickened out too much and I have had a series of misfortunes.
You had balls to gamble money, you're a man lol. You are also a warrior for enduring the pain of height dysphoria this long, i'm a coward so i did myself a quick favor. 1 year later, happiest man on earth
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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2022, 06:01:10 AM »

You were squatting ass to grass one year post op? What kind of what were you doing?
Guy like you probly will be albe to sit down ass to grass 8-9 months post op but with a slightly wider stance of course, over time the stance is going to  slowly get closer


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« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2022, 08:11:41 AM »

Guy like you probly will be albe to sit down ass to grass 8-9 months post op but with a slightly wider stance of course, over time the stance is going to  slowly get closer

I expect my stance to change (naturally), but I’m incredibly happy to hear that. I was planning to do 7.5 cm on my tibias.
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« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2022, 08:20:35 AM »

Yeah, I admit I chickened out too much and I have had a series of misfortunes.
The only thing I am worried about is whether P nails can come back when I hit USA. If it can't my life will be competely over and my dream will be ruined.
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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2022, 07:08:18 PM »

Since when Solomin is 14 K eur?

Last time I checked it was (incl 11 days in municipal hospital with 0.011 exchange rate for rub/eur)
Surgery + Postoperative Period = 296000 + (11*4700) = 347700 * 0.011 = 3824.7 Eur
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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2022, 07:39:44 PM »

Since when Solomin is 14 K eur?

Last time I checked it was (incl 11 days in municipal hospital with 0.011 exchange rate for rub/eur)
Surgery + Postoperative Period = 296000 + (11*4700) = 347700 * 0.011 = 3824.7 Eur

It's the advanced package which includes hospital stays during the whole lengthening period.
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