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Author Topic: Normal to stand only at 162cm born in a nutrtional family of not short parents?  (Read 1022 times)

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HateLAPELoveSTEM

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Hey my guys I am always seeking for answers to this question that if it is normal to have only 162cm height as a Genz raised in a metrocity's central business district of China with good nutritions and environments after 3 y.o, in addition to my dad standing at a certain height nearly the same as mine and my mother standing at 158cm. But my paternal grandma is shorter than 146-147cm(paternal grandpa's height is unknown cuz he passed away not long after I could memorize things) and my maternal grandma is 146-147cm(maternal grandpa is around 165cm) in addition to my uncle standing at 155cm(obviously shorter than my mom).
So I am always wondering if I am a Constitutional Short Stature patient or suffering from certain maturing disorders.
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我很同情你,在上海这个身高,不用纠结于这个,早点做吧,双断和最好的医生,你不会出什么大问题
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Your family is very short so you in all likelihood that's why you are short. Sometimes genetics don't go your way. If your really concerned you could see a doctor but what difference would it make? You would still be 162cm either way. You should try and get LL asap so this stuff isn't always on your mind.
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Hey my guys I am always seeking for answers to this question that if it is normal to have only 162cm height as a Genz raised in a metrocity's central business district of China with good nutritions and environments after 3 y.o, in addition to my dad standing at a certain height nearly the same as mine and my mother standing at 158cm. But my paternal grandma is shorter than 146-147cm(paternal grandpa's height is unknown cuz he passed away not long after I could memorize things) and my maternal grandma is 146-147cm(maternal grandpa is around 165cm) in addition to my uncle standing at 155cm(obviously shorter than my mom).
So I am always wondering if I am a Constitutional Short Stature patient or suffering from certain maturing disorders.

Are you Chinese? 162 cm may be considered slightly shorter in Chinese, but it's not that short. I have seen many Chinese men around 160 cm dating women.
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You "should" be around 167 cm tall with a margin error of more or less 10 cm, so in fact you're in the normal range but were not lucky. (It could be worse...)
However  if you are still growing you should have a consultation with an endocrinologist to evaluate administration of  growth hormone injections. You can be segregating insufficient hormone.
If your plates are closed, no time to cry. Check your options and if LL is really the only and unavoidable solution after, let's say, at least one year of top psychotherapy really specialised in "body problems". Don't blame your parents. It's because of them you're here and it's probably from them that you have received and always will, the more unconditional support. Be strong.
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Sometimes it just happens. Like look at some brothers, it's not thay uncommon for a brother to be 10cm taller than the other even though they had similar nutrition and lifestyle.

Taking into account your parents height you were supposed to be a bit taller bit got a bit unlucky which is not uncommon
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Are you Chinese? 162 cm may be considered slightly shorter in Chinese, but it's not that short. I have seen many Chinese men around 160 cm dating women.
I was already weighing 'having Parkinson and Leukemia' lower than 'being short'in my view of man's defects and you can see how 'not that short' I actually am :-X
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You "should" be around 167 cm tall with a margin error of more or less 10 cm, so in fact you're in the normal range but were not lucky. (It could be worse...)
However  if you are still growing you should have a consultation with an endocrinologist to evaluate administration of  growth hormone injections. You can be segregating insufficient hormone.
If your plates are closed, no time to cry. Check your options and if LL is really the only and unavoidable solution after, let's say, at least one year of top psychotherapy really specialised in "body problems". Don't blame your parents. It's because of them you're here and it's probably from them that you have received and always will, the more unconditional support. Be strong.
I never blamed my parents and I never implied it and I am just curious of the reason why I am so short.
Unfortunately my growh plates were fused around 5 yrs ago so my height growth has ended up.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2022, 10:25:25 PM by PursuerOfHeight »
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Sometimes it just happens. Like look at some brothers, it's not thay uncommon for a brother to be 10cm taller than the other even though they had similar nutrition and lifestyle.

Taking into account your parents height you were supposed to be a bit taller bit got a bit unlucky which is not uncommon
I heard of studies like Identical Twin Experiment revealed that even identical twins have 5-6cm height differences on average so what you said makes a lot senses except that it's unproven that a brother is not uncommon to tower over the other by 10cm and it's just your observation.
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I never blamed my parents and I never implied it amd I am just curious of the reason why I am so short.
Unfortunately my growh plates were fused around 5 yrs ago so my height growth has ended up.
Good! I only wrote it to encourage you to be united and because it's so frequent that people here, when talk about their supposed "bad genes" also are harsh for their parents one way or the other. I think even the expression "bad genes" (sometimes some call it *uck up genes) is disrespectful for our parents. If we were to be judges of genetics (sounds bad, doesn't it ???? ), contrarily, we should be grateful: almost all of us here didn't inherited a severe lethal, painful, handicaping or 100% dependency disease. And even less one of those genetic diseases that doesn't even give people time to tell.
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Good! I only wrote it to encourage you to be united and because it's so frequent that people here, when talk about their supposed "bad genes" also are harsh for their parents one way or the other. I think even the expression "bad genes" (sometimes some call it *uck up genes) is disrespectful for our parents. If we were to be judges of genetics (sounds bad, doesn't it ???? ), contrarily, we should be grateful: almost all of us here didn't inherited a severe lethal, painful, handicaping or 100% dependency disease. And even less one of those genetic diseases that doesn't even give people time to tell.
TBH, I never thought of anyone who is blaming his/her parents for having them to be short is mentally matured or even normal. They are more likely to be just blaming their parents' wrong(at least in their perspectives) ways of bringing them up in their subconsciousnesses instead of actually purely wrong ways of getting them taller to certain heights. IMO they are just implicitly whining about their parents' faults about raising not about height-related stuffs. But anyway I am always laughing off any stuffs like 'You are short and your parents deserve punishments for it!', 'Your parents are not good parents cuz they didn't take any care of your height!', 'Your parents are garbages. You don't deserve this!'(I really came across this sentence in one of China's forums). I am just not willing to dispute with them over this kind of incel and extremely unmatured viewpoints.
Sometimes you don't need to waste your time on those guys. They are also helpless and desparate. I can relate to their pains but not their hilarious and absurd viewpoints. :-\
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TBH, I never thought of anyone who is blaming his/her parents for having them to be short is mentally matured or even normal. They are more likely to be just blaming their parents' wrong(at least in their perspectives) ways of bringing them up in their subconsciousnesses instead of actually purely wrong ways of getting them taller to certain heights. IMO they are just implicitly whining about their parents' faults about raising not about height-related stuffs. But anyway I am always laughing off any stuffs like 'You are short and your parents deserve punishments for it!', 'Your parents are not good parents cuz they didn't take any care of your height!', 'Your parents are garbages. You don't deserve this!'(I really came across this sentence in one of China's forums). I am just not willing to dispute with them over this kind of incel and extremely unmatured viewpoints.
Sometimes you don't need to waste your time on those guys. They are also helpless and desparate. I can relate to their pains but not their hilarious and absurd viewpoints. :-\

Very stupid argument I agree, they don't realise that they wouldn't even be who they are right now if their parents were different. Wishing to be someone else is also another dangerous mindset, self improvement is the better route.
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Very stupid argument I agree, they don't realise that they wouldn't even be who they are right now if their parents were different. Wishing to be someone else is also another dangerous mindset, self improvement is the better route.
Yeah. I will not get astonished that they learn some lessons after certain life experiences about how important their parents are actually are and what they are actually contributing to their children without any deliberate revalations. Some boys will ever be 'boys' even after LL they are still 'unmatured' in their mentalities, unfixable even by LL LOL.
Parents are not omniscient and if someone is blaming his/her parents for not bestowing their wanted lives to them then I'd say parents do not deserve this kind of children either. Parents are not your servants or employers or whatnots. If they are raising you absent-mindedly then yeah you can blame them for it if not then the answer has been already pretty self-explained.
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You will only know it after having consultation with orthopedists and endocrinologist. However based on the heights of your family members, I suspect you are just short and you don’t have any disorders.
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"Genetic information is passed down from our grandparents to our parents, and then from our parents to us. ... However, on average, you do have about 25% of your genetic information coming from each grandparent."

My brother inherited the height of my grandfather (shorter than my mother)
I inherited bow legs from my other grandfather (parents have normal legs)

I don't understand why this community is ignorant enough to not understand that you (can) inherit a good amount of genetical information from your grandparents. Everytime someone is shorther than his/her parents, this community blames malnutrition. Height is 99% genes. Even a hungry or abused child grows tall if it's in his genes.
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"Genetic information is passed down from our grandparents to our parents, and then from our parents to us. ... However, on average, you do have about 25% of your genetic information coming from each grandparent."

My brother inherited the height of my grandfather (shorter than my mother)
I inherited bow legs from my other grandfather (parents have normal legs)

I don't understand why this community is ignorant enough to not understand that you (can) inherit a good amount of genetical information from your grandparents. Everytime someone is shorther than his/her parents, this community blames malnutrition. Height is 99% genes. Even a hungry or abused child grows tall if it's in his genes.
"Genetic information is passed down from our grandparents to our parents, and then from our parents to us. ... However, on average, you do have about 25% of your genetic information coming from each grandparent."
Mind citing the resource? Or am I out? I don't think geneticists have figured out the mechanism of height inheritances.
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You will only know it after having consultation with orthopedists and endocrinologist. However based on the heights of your family members, I suspect you are just short and you don’t have any disorders.
In April last yr I checked my GH through medical examinations and the resulted showed 'normal'. I also checked all of other panels related to endocrinology and all revealed normal. So what you said makes a lot of senses.
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"Genetic information is passed down from our grandparents to our parents, and then from our parents to us. ... However, on average, you do have about 25% of your genetic information coming from each grandparent."
Mind citing the resource? Or am I out? I don't think geneticists have figured out the mechanism of height inheritances.

To be honest I just googled this information based on my assumption that this fact had to be like this, because I am proof of this myself.
Let's disregard this information for now, and look at the facts:

How did I get passed down a "binary" characteristic such a bow legs from my grandfather, while non of my parents have this.
If height was completely random, how come families and cultural groups stay within a certain ame cluster of same heights and other characteristics.

Here is one of many sources:
Edit: https://dna-explained.com/2020/01/14/dna-inherited-from-grandparents-and-great-grandparents/
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To be honest I just googled this information based on my assumption that this fact had to be like this, because I am proof of this myself.
Let's disregard this information for now, and look at the facts:

How did I get passed down a "binary" characteristic such a bow legs from my grandfather, while non of my parents have this.
If height was completely random, how come families and cultural groups stay within a certain ame cluster of same heights and other characteristics.

Here is one of many sources:
Edit: https://dna-explained.com/2020/01/14/dna-inherited-from-grandparents-and-great-grandparents/
Kinda complicated and unintelligible sorry. But anyway grandparental genes are for sure scientifically passed down to their offsprings and maybe I inherited many short genes from my 2 grandmas or similar.
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