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[173to187USTORUSSIA]

I've had a thought running through my head over the past two days. That thought is this: Is height really as important as we all believe it is? Why else would we be obsessed with it:

One part of me tells me that their is no way height is that important, that it's all an illusion. Height is just another excuse for why I'm not where I want to be in life.

The other part of me who is fundamentally aware of social nuances and has life experience is screaming in the back of my head. "YES IT IS DUMMY. HEIGHT IS ABSOLUTELY THIS IMPORTANT

Its hilarious and funny and stupid that its important and people would judge you and perceive you based on something so asinine as your vertical length. But the truth is the truth and we need to accept reality as it is.

I guess I'm having a crisis of faith at the moment. There's a part of me that says "all this is a mental illness", " you just need to work on your personality, bank account and money", "this won't fix you."

Limb lengthening surgery won't "fix" your life, its true. But pretending that humans don't treat other people based off the way we look is the height of delusion.

[Exxon]

The shorter you are, the more important it is.

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

The shorter you are, the more important it is.

Well said. I gotta collect it as one of the top 10 mottos about life

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

At moments before I was thinking having Leukemia or quadriplegia is better than being short so in my shoes the answer is pretty self-explained and that's why I plunged into LL after I realized the cruelty of height.

[Achieverr]

Reading this kind of remind me of this quote :
"We suffer more often in imagination than in reality"

[ilovescience]

Well said. I gotta collect it as one of the top 10 mottos about life

I also heard "the taller you are, the less important it is" from a student before. Some taller people might don't care because it's not a barrier to their lives.

[ReadRothbard]

I’d say that height is important, but it’s not anywhere near as important as other aspects of your looks (face, frame, hair, etc.). The only place where this doesn’t hold true is of you’re below average height (let’s say 5’9-5’10 in most of the West), and every inch you are below average height, the worse off you’ll be. But certainly, once you reach something like 5’11, height really isn’t much of a factor in your dating and professional life; anything beyond that is really just a bonus.

[ilovescience]

I’d say that height is important, but it’s not anywhere near as important as other aspects of your looks (face, frame, hair, etc.). The only place where this doesn’t hold true is of you’re below average height (let’s say 5’9-5’10 in most of the West), and every inch you are below average height, the worse off you’ll be. But certainly, once you reach something like 5’11, height really isn’t much of a factor in your dating and professional life; anything beyond that is really just a bonus.

I know what you mean. But it definitely hurts to people who are short but very skilled. They probably don't get paid equally even they contribute a lot in their works.

[Masteryourlife]

I’d say that height is important, but it’s not anywhere near as important as other aspects of your looks (face, frame, hair, etc.). The only place where this doesn’t hold true is of you’re below average height (let’s say 5’9-5’10 in most of the West), and every inch you are below average height, the worse off you’ll be. But certainly, once you reach something like 5’11, height really isn’t much of a factor in your dating and professional life; anything beyond that is really just a bonus.

Accurate

[ReadRothbard]

I know what you mean. But it definitely hurts to people who are short but very skilled. They probably don't get paid equally even they contribute a lot in their works.

I agree, but that's why I say it's only a significant problem if you're below 5'10 in the West. Of course, the shorter you are below that (for the West), the more your difficulties will exponentially increase.

[Masteryourlife]

I know what you mean. But it definitely hurts to people who are short but very skilled. They probably don't get paid equally even they contribute a lot in their works.

Idk where this story of "less money" if you are short come from since the most powerful mens in the world are under 5'9 I believe it's just a psychosis/excuse for short men to justify their dysphoria instead of saying simply they are insecure about height and how they are treated by people under a social aspect .

[ilovescience]

Idk where this story of "less money" if you are short come from since the most powerful mens in the world are under 5'9 I believe it's just a psychosis/excuse for short men to justify their dysphoria instead of saying simply they are insecure about height and how they are treated by people under a social aspect .

It was from a guy who I talked to long time ago, he was a student at the time.

[stevens]

Idk where this story of "less money" if you are short come from since the most powerful mens in the world are under 5'9 I believe it's just a psychosis/excuse for short men to justify their dysphoria instead of saying simply they are insecure about height and how they are treated by people under a social aspect .

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/entertainment/naija-fashion/203429-many-ceos-tall-people-height-matter-bisi-daniels.html

[Itsme]

Well it depends:

I think for life in general it's more important to be halfway normal.
Let me explain it:

- Being very short alone as a male will have influence in many areas of life. It's sad but it is what it is
- Being "halfway normal" will have no influence of any area of life
- Being tall alone probably won't affect life, but it can be a bonus. If you're tall and ugly you're tall and ugly, if you're tall and boring you're tall and boring, if you're tall with a weak personality you're tall with a weak personality

A guy who grows "magicaly" over night from 165cm to 175cm will benefit waqy more than a guy who grows from 175cm to 185cm

[ReadRothbard]

Well it depends:

I think for life in general it's more important to be halfway normal.
Let me explain it:

- Being very short alone as a male will have influence in many areas of life. It's sad but it is what it is
- Being "halfway normal" will have no influence of any area of life
- Being tall alone probably won't affect life, but it can be a bonus. If you're tall and ugly you're tall and ugly, if you're tall and boring you're tall and boring, if you're tall with a weak personality you're tall with a weak personality

A guy who grows "magicaly" over night from 165cm to 175cm will benefit waqy more than a guy who grows from 175cm to 185cm

Yeah, I would mostly agree with this. Being really tall can get you height fetishists, though.

[Exxon]

Well it depends:

I think for life in general it's more important to be halfway normal.
Let me explain it:

- Being very short alone as a male will have influence in many areas of life. It's sad but it is what it is
- Being "halfway normal" will have no influence of any area of life
- Being tall alone probably won't affect life, but it can be a bonus. If you're tall and ugly you're tall and ugly, if you're tall and boring you're tall and boring, if you're tall with a weak personality you're tall with a weak personality

A guy who grows "magicaly" over night from 165cm to 175cm will benefit waqy more than a guy who grows from 175cm to 185cm

Great post. Summarised benefits very well.

[Highest]

Yeah, I would mostly agree with this. Being really tall can get you height fetishists, though.

I've always noticed very tall men are the most sought after by very short women trying to compensate for their own short genetics and very tall women who want to feel feminine.

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

I've always noticed very tall men are the most sought after by very short women trying to compensate for their own short genetics and very tall women who want to feel feminine.

How tall is 'very tall'? I never saw any guy over 190cm+ will be sought after the most by very short women(as opposed to 'very tall men' let's just say they are around 140cm) and vice versa, instead I always see very short women are seeking for guys over 160-170cm but yeah some tall men over 180cm are indeed also into very short women but what I am talking about is just happening in China, for other countries I just dunno.
But if you wanan let me choose 230cm or under 165cm I will not hesitate to choose the former.

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

Great post. Summarised benefits very well.

Second this. Once you are extremely short your life is just over and if LL can't get you up to the average even then depression and anxiety disorder are very of possibilities in addition to being alone for a lifetime.

[BelowTheMean]

If you’re a well-rounded man whose biggest shortcoming is your height, then it’s going to be really important to you personally. If you are lacking in other areas then height is probably not your biggest worry, and if it is you should reevaluate your priorities.

[173to187USTORUSSIA]

If you’re a well-rounded man whose biggest shortcoming is your height, then it’s going to be really important to you personally. If you are lacking in other areas then height is probably not your biggest worry, and if it is you should reevaluate your priorities.

I disagree. You are rich, you got to go to college and you could afford one of the best doctors in the world - at a first world price.

I am average...I didn't go to college, and I have nothing to lose and no f**ks left to give.

If anything if someone is well-rounded and already happy with their life they would be LESS likely to obsess about this surgery and develop a height neurosis.

Men have a natural desire to be superior to other men. What better way to be superior then to discourage other men from going through with limb lengthening surgery.

[Masteryourlife]

I disagree. You are rich, you got to go to college and you could afford one of the best doctors in the world - at a first world price.

I am average...I didn't go to college, and I have nothing to lose and no f**ks left to give.

If anything if someone is well-rounded and already happy with their life they would be LESS likely to obsess about this surgery and develop a height neurosis.

Men have a natural desire to be superior to other men. What better way to be superior then to discourage other men from going through with limb lengthening surgery.

Well rounded does not mean only rich .
Well rounded it's about look,personality,charisma etc .
LL it's about look  ot about money ( the story of tall ppl earning more it's a joke because A LOT of powerful men in the planet are like 5'7) therefore the thing is ,if you only lack in height , you might want to make up for that and invest in yourself to be the best version of yourself .
If you suck in everything,  you just want to blame height for your failures so to you it would be more reasonable if you get the surgery but in reality ..you should first fix yourself in every aspect on the outside n then go for LL if needed .
Most here do It to be prettier or for girls but i also see that most of the users who post pics are not in shape and rrally not that cute or well put together .
This is not body shaming or something but just to say that to me ,what BTM said up here , its completely right .
Makes more sense to desire beautiful wheel rims on a ferrari that on a Chevy : the ferrari it's still a ferrari with amazing wheels that improves the overall look of the already amazing car ..while the chevy ...still remains a chevy but with cuter wheels that ppl might notice but you will not get any benefit from it .
It's such a stupid example but I think it gets to the point .

[Highest]

I disagree. You are rich, you got to go to college and you could afford one of the best doctors in the world - at a first world price.

I am average...I didn't go to college, and I have nothing to lose and no f**ks left to give.

If anything if someone is well-rounded and already happy with their life they would be LESS likely to obsess about this surgery and develop a height neurosis.

Men have a natural desire to be superior to other men. What better way to be superior then to discourage other men from going through with limb lengthening surgery.

I remember you made a thread a while ago that you got fired from your security job are there any updates. Just because you didn't go to college doesn't mean you can't make good money or study later on. I believe you're in your 30s so it's not too late to make a change and turn things around.

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

If you’re a well-rounded man whose biggest shortcoming is your height, then it’s going to be really important to you personally. If you are lacking in other areas then height is probably not your biggest worry, and if it is you should reevaluate your priorities.

Then you got me right and the biggest shortcoming is indeed my height but the hardest defect to change and even just improve.
Except this I don't think I have other big shortcomings, at least, not obvious shortcomings.
But actually, I don't think anything that is born with you or determined by you genes is 'shortcoming', which means if you are ugly, short, or even suffering from certain disorders/diseases determined by your genes then they are not 'shortcomings'.
Here is my definition of shortcoming:
A bad attribute, except physical features, health and bad skills/abilities caused by certain disorders.

[ilovescience]

Then you got me right and the biggest shortcoming is indeed my height but the hardest defect to change and even just improve.
Except this I don't think I have other big shortcomings, at least, not obvious shortcomings.

LL is the only option to change the height, but be optimistic, there will be more options as science progrsses in the future!

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

I disagree. You are rich, you got to go to college and you could afford one of the best doctors in the world - at a first world price.

I am average...I didn't go to college, and I have nothing to lose and no f**ks left to give.

If anything if someone is well-rounded and already happy with their life they would be LESS likely to obsess about this surgery and develop a height neurosis.

Men have a natural desire to be superior to other men. What better way to be superior then to discourage other men from going through with limb lengthening surgery.

If I were you I think life is not bad and full of hopes cuz at least I can make money(not going to college doesn't mean you cannot make money), hunt new jobs, reconcile with gfs(you broke up with before) and etc., not to mention my college is awfully bad and its education, atmosphere, students are all bad and I dunno why you are feeling inferior to someone who goes into college. I think if he or she is a 150cm/140cm but a college student he/she will sacrifice everything for just being average /tall about height. Otherwise I wouldn't have gone to that extreme that I think Leukemia/Parkinson is better than being short.

[Medium Drink Of Water]

LL is the only option to change the height, but be optimistic, there will be more options as science progrsses in the future!

We want to live our lives now, before society crumbles and Earth becomes a dystopia.

[Highest]

We want to live our lives now, before society crumbles and Earth becomes a dystopia.

What are you talking about? A 17 year old on here told me in the future we'll be living forever with nanobots. He even gave the exact year 

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

What are you talking about? A 17 year old on here told me in the future we'll be living forever with nanobots. He even gave the exact year 

As an adult, I suggest to respect his illusions of being omniscient and doing God's jobs.

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

https://www.mag2.com/p/news/528975

Tanukana said, "165 is small. If you're not 170 cm, please live your life thinking that I don't have any human rights," "Please consider bone lengthening surgery," "Please look up bone lengthening surgery," and "If you're 170, you'll have human rights. "There's no way a small man has human rights. I'm not a fan of small men." "I'm not a fan of small men," she said, and finally, "I really can't stand small men."

To sum up, I cannot imagine how judgemental and sarcasitc females or even the whole world is towards short men at present and this girl is Japanese and as we all know Japan is one of the least heightism countries all over the world so this kind of anecdotes are more prevalent in the other countries of the world especially like China, S.Korea and the U.S. I am also anticipating that in the next generations this kind of insults and discriminations will increase their severities to another new level where nearly none of short men can tolerate and endure unless they do LL, and what I am saying is, comparatively speaking, we are already 'lucky' enough to live in the currrent era. We cannot imagine how discriminatory our next generations are gonna be.
Be careful Little Gentlemen. I am also ancitipating that the World War III aka Height War is upcoming in the near future and if we opt to cater to the world we will be likely to be regretting having done it forever and suffering from discrimations and unfairnesses in our real lives. Short men must get as brave as Kamikazes yeah I am talking about those impavid Japanese pilots during the end of World War II who sacrificed their lives for getting the whole America thrilled. Maybe I am setting an inappropriate example for my demonstrations but it's pretty much the main point. Tho I am a Chinese I am not willing to have rhubarbs with anyone here to fix up my being seemingly deficient of patriotism.
Let's just perceive the America as the LL and Kamikazes as we short men. We must activate our adrenalines ourselves to overcome all of the difficulties getting in way on the quest to LL and get as impavid as possible towards complications of LL and we gotta shake the world and give it a lesson how mentally robust we short men are actually are and how discriminatory it is!

[AllinStryde]

I read something funny a long time ago..."sex is like oxygen, it only matters when you're not getting any."  The same thing applies to height.  Tall dudes don't think about their height at all, they just go about the lives and things just work out for them.  So the more on the short side you are, you think about it more often.  Tall men live life on "easy mode" and don't even know the struggle at all.  Just like attractive women live life on easy mode.