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[Itsme]

Assuming the parents/doctors realize the child will be below average stature, say 5'4"/163cm. How many inches/cm can you really expect from HGH when you start early? How long does it have to be taken?
Does anyone have any relevant information here?

Cheers

[Highest]

Are you talking about a kid who is short due to genetics or a kid with an actual growth hormone deficiency?

[Itsme]

Are you talking about a kid who is short due to genetics or a kid with an actual growth hormone deficiency?

Due to genetics, let's say an average height father and a short mother and the kid inherited the height genes from the mother's side.

[drxboom]

max 10cm

[Highest]

Due to genetics, let's say an average height father and a short mother and the kid inherited the height genes from the mother's side.

Average is 2.5cm to 7.5cm, best case scenario is 10cm. How old are you now?

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

Depends on your family's financial condition and if you are around -2SD of the average height and if either of them doesn't permit then you can't achieve HGH injection.
How effective depends on your growth plates.

[Exxon]

It's dangerous to use HGH if the kid doesn't have any growth hormone problems and is simply just short because of genetics. There's a risk of tumor growth and a lot of dangerous things such as organ failure due to abnormal growth; also it will be impossible to prescribe unless you have hormone deficiencies (at least where I live).

[Exxon]

Depends on your family's financial condition and if you are around -2SD of the average height and if either of them doesn't permit then you can't achieve HGH injection.
How effective depends on your growth plates.

Yes if I recall you have to be like 155-8cm to get it prescribed or have hormone deficiency, otherwise the doctor will not permit you to take it.

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

Yes if I recall you have to be like 155-8cm to get it prescribed or have hormone deficiency, otherwise the doctor will not permit you to take it.

In fact it depends on your country's average height. For instance if you are only 162cm tall around 18 y.o in America then you can achieve HGH according to your country's growth reference.

[Medium Drink Of Water]

I hope this isn't about pining over how tall you'd be if you'd started HGH at some age.

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

I hope this isn't about pining over how tall you'd be if you'd started HGH at some age.

Then they are just barking on the wrong tree cuz HGH is not achievable for anyone and if your height is not under -2SD, then you can't achieve HGH and what's more your family revenue is another crucial factor of if you can achieve.

[Scarface92]

it is a question that I have always asked myself too, having never visited the endocrinologist, I don't know if I have had HGH deficiencies, but I always wonder how much taller I could have become if I had taken hormones, and the more I think about it the more I feel bad, I think it happens to you too! unfortunately many things are not known as children, we know them when it is too late!!

[Exxon]

In fact it depends on your country's average height. For instance if you are only 162cm tall around 18 y.o in America then you can achieve HGH according to your country's growth reference.

I don't think even at 162 they will give it to you. I was recorded as 164 when I was 18 and I begged them to give it to me but they didn't, average height is 178 where I am. You have to be abnormally short. I was so lucky I grew 6cm at 19 because I slept all day but it wasn't enough to maximise my genes.

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

I don't think even at 162 they will give it to you. I was recorded as 164 when I was 18 and I begged them to give it to me but they didn't, average height is 178 where I am. You have to be abnormally short. I was so lucky I grew 6cm at 19 because I slept all day but it wasn't enough to maximise my genes.

Did they examine your growth plates? If the result showed that they were fused then for sure they wouldn't inject HGH into you but according to your statements they were not fused.. too strange...

[Exxon]

Did they examine your growth plates? If the result showed that they were fused then for sure they wouldn't inject HGH into you but according to your statements they were not fused.. too strange...

They were fused but they told me even if I came earlier they would refuse to give it.

P.S I don't know how I grew an extra 2 inches.

[Highest]

They were fused but they told me even if I came earlier they would refuse to give it.

P.S I don't know how I grew an extra 2 inches.

How are you measuring your height?

[Exxon]

How are you measuring your height?

Barefoot; at morning 171, at night 169, average the two is my "height".

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

They were fused but they told me even if I came earlier they would refuse to give it.

P.S I don't know how I grew an extra 2 inches.

Alright, sorry to hear that man.
But was your height 164cm recorded correctly? If not then it is impossible to grow any taller if growth plates are fused(I mean your legs' growth plates). Then I also can't figure out how you made it.. Or was your height 170cm recorded correctly?

[Exxon]

Alright, sorry to hear that man.
But was your height 164cm recorded correctly? If not then it is impossible to grow any taller if growth plates are fused. Then I also can't figure out how you made it.. Or was your height 170cm recorded correctly?

I went to two different doctors a few months apart, one said I was 164 and it recorded in the afternoon, the other one was 171cm and I went at 9AM and I also asked my father to measure at night and he got 169cm. Also when they said my growth plates were closed, they said it's "very unlikely to gain a growth spurt" they never indicated it was impossible so maybe I did grow. To be honest I don't know if I grew or not since 5'5-5'7 is almost nothing but I certainly hope I did, if I'm still at 164 then I might need two lengthenings.

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

I went to two different doctors a few months apart, one said I was 164 and it recorded in the afternoon, the other one was 171cm and I went at 9AM and I also asked my father to measure at night and he got 169cm. Also when they said my growth plates were closed, they said it's "very unlikely to gain a growth spurt" they never indicated it was impossible so maybe I did grow. To be honest I don't know if I grew or not since 5'5-5'7 is almost nothing but I certainly hope I did, if I'm still at 164 then I might need two lengthenings.

You went to 2 doctors and was measured as 2 totally different heights just a few months apart? It is not that complicated just go for the doctor who measured you shorter and if you did grow just within a few months, you can get measured as a higher number under the hand of that doctor and I think you are supposed to give it a try.
Actually in medicine to judge if you can grow any taller or not they just check your growth plates to judge and everything is not that complex. Once your growth plates are fused, your legs cannot achieve heights cuz growth plates cannot achieve growth hormones anymore(at least medical reference materials put it that way).
I hope it was just the doctor who measured you shorter that he/she made a mistake.
Also, remember you gotta guarantee using the same kind of measuring tools otherwise the difference is just a joke.

[Exxon]

You went to 2 doctors and was measured as 2 totally different heights just a few months apart? It is not that complicated just go for the doctor who measured you shorter and if you did grow just within a few months, you can get measured as a higher number under the hand of that doctor and I think you are supposed to give it a try.

There's a reason why I didn't go to the original doctor, he wasn't giving me a referral for an endocrinologist. So I went to another doctor and tried to get the referral. Endocrinologist explained why I can't get HGH.

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

There's a reason why I didn't go to the original doctor, he wasn't giving me a referral for an endocrinologist. So I went to another doctor and tried to get the referral. Endocrinologist explained why I can't get HGH.

I edited my reply, sorry. I think it was just that you were measured by different kinds of measuring tools, instead of the fact that you did really grow(or 164cm was not correct)cuz there is no way to grow any taller after growth plates are fused and its a solid medical truth.
For me, 162cm was measured all the same with both stadiometers and tapes. But my mother measured my height as 163cm at night(I had waken up for more than 7 hours so that could make sense) and except her, I or my school medical staff measured my height around 162cm, all barefoot.

[Exxon]

I edited my reply, sorry. I think it was just that you were measured by different kinds of measuring tools, instead of the fact that you did really grow(or 164cm was not correct)cuz there is no way to grow any taller after growth plates are fused and its a solid medical truth.
For me, 162cm was measured all the same with both stadiometers and tapes. But my mother measured my height as 163cm at night(I had waken up for more than 7 hours so that could make sense) and except her, I or my school medical staff measured my height around 162cm, all barefoot.

I can go again to recheck, not really bothered though since everyone around me thinks I'm telling the truth about my height, some people even overestimate.

[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

I can go again to recheck, not really bothered though since everyone around me thinks I'm telling the truth about my height, some people even overestimate.

You mean they believe in you really having got taller? Then that's 2 strange it is a very unscientific case growing taller after growth plates are fused..

[Exxon]

You mean they believe in you really having got taller? Then that's 2 strange it is a very unscientific case growing taller after growth plates are fused..

No I didn't ask them whether I grew taller, I just asked them what they think my height is, responses were around 170

[Exxon]

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[HateLAPELoveSTEM]

No I didn't ask them whether I grew taller, I just asked them what they think my height is, responses were around 170

Good. Then you can be considered as solid 176cm and even taller by others after LL.

[Exxon]

Good. Then you can be considered as solid 176cm and even taller by others after LL.

Yes, hopefully Precise/Stryde in the US with Dr Mahboubian.

[zaozari]

Assuming the parents/doctors realize the child will be below average stature, say 5'4"/163cm. How many inches/cm can you really expect from HGH when you start early? How long does it have to be taken?
Does anyone have any relevant information here?

Cheers

It's very variable. Many times, people just don't respond to supplementary GH, it's like the endocrine system "detects" an artificial input and just "balances" it, reducing production of natural GH.
In other cases it depends on for how long GH is taken, dosis and again individual biological response.
It's very frequent to add just a few centimetres. Spectacular cases are rare. And quantity of injections and dosis is allways limited by medical reasons, to avoid secondary effects and disruption of the entire endocrine system.
Age and duration of treatment depends on the moment parents or the child start worrying and consult a doctor, on doctor evaluation, his opinion (both clinical and personal importance given to height and to the case), his knowledge about interpretation of growth charts, on the response and concerns about secondary effects and of course on height itself.
Different doctors wait more or less time for a natural growth increase before intervening and most seem to disregard prescription of GH after the end of adolescense, regardless of epifhysial plates, as response to GH is generally diminuished.