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Author Topic: Stand Taller diary - The first day of the rest of my life (Betz Bone 14.01.2022)  (Read 35405 times)

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he already showed a jeans photo and he looks fine
he is 4 inches taller and his life is infinitely improved and you come here and nitpick his long legs for "looking off"
You didn't troll this diary hmm interesting. You could be on Becker's team. I think you're Kanye Western. Whatever happens i will deal with you ;D
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Glad to have you back. I forgot whether you have had an ITB release, given the ammount you lengthened, i am assuming you definitely had one?
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Current height: 174.5cm  evening (175.3m left leg 174.5 left leg). Lengthening: 7cm
Final height 182-183cm afternoon height with glucosamine, stretching and posture.

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Don't want to be rude or something but the balance between the Tibia and Femur just looks so off. :-\

I wonder how you look in jeans as for jeans you can clearly see where the patella is.

Dude, you can't even see half of my tibias in this photo... furthermore the photo was taken at an angle with a wide angle lens on my iPhone . so the photo is already distorted. Scroll up you''ll see photos of me where you can actually see my whole legs and as people have pointed out, I look completely normal.
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Femurs with Dr Betz & Dr Becker 14/01/2022
Starting height: 165cm | Reached height: 177cm
Total lengthening: 11,5cm | Age: Mid 30s
My diary: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.0

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How are you doing buddy? I think a lot of us would really appreciate an update ;)
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Dude, you can't even see half of my tibias in this photo... furthermore the photo was taken at an angle with a wide angle lens on my iPhone . so the photo is already distorted. Scroll up you''ll see photos of me where you can actually see my whole legs and as people have pointed out, I look completely normal.
it look good with jeans
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I am not trying to brag or tut my own horn here, so again I do apologize if I come across that way. My whole life I have been told positives things about how I look, but that often hasn't matched my experience with women. In my experience only about 1-2 out of ten women have responded as expected, but this also fits well with studies done on the subject. My point here is that if you are an average looking man (which most are by definition) and you struggle with attracting women I truly believe most of than resistance comes from being short. It is too early to tell from personal experience yet, but there are many studies on this. I truly believe if you can get close to average height in your country and have average looks you will dramatically improve your success with women.

Can I get more updates on this? Do you feel like you're getting better results with women?
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You said you measured your tibia and femurs yourself. But I was wondering if you asked your doctor's if they could measure it through the x rays?

Actually if you have the x rays, you can just measure it yourself (doesn't have to be the correct scale) and just divide the two measurements and get an an exact/accurate ratio.
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How are you doing buddy? I think a lot of us would really appreciate an update ;)

I am doing good and better every day, I'll write up an update in a few days with videos and photos of my progress.

Cheers!
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Femurs with Dr Betz & Dr Becker 14/01/2022
Starting height: 165cm | Reached height: 177cm
Total lengthening: 11,5cm | Age: Mid 30s
My diary: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.0

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I am doing good and better every day, I'll write up an update in a few days with videos and photos of my progress.

Cheers!

Glad to hear! Can't wait 8)
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it look good with jeans


Dont wanna sound annoying but I also see the diffrences but if I wouldnt know I prob wont notice. Maybe trying a larger jacket or hoodie could help just not too long because you can tell the torso is smaller but for the amound it still looks fine, and at least you already dared before me so just enjoy the new moments!
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Day 465 (Day 307 Post clicking)

It has now been ten months since I stopped clicking, and being short has quickly become a distant memory. Having been this height for this long and getting better and better every day, my memories of being short is fading.

For those who have read my diary from start to finish know that I have pretty severe duck ass, and also very tight it-band on my left leg. My duck ass is almost completely gone, and my tight right it-band is also almost gone now. This means my gait, once I have stretched and gotten some heat into my body and muscles - is now almost completely normal. My last obstacle is now some hip sway, but this also getting better every day. After stretching today, and walking it is almost not noticeable. I'll probably post a video and photos next week in a post.

All in all, progress has kept at steady pace the past few months - and I am now almost back to normal gait. I have been walking around 10-20km per week, or around 1,5 -3km per day. My issues with stiff muscles, low stamina and having to take pause while walking has almost improved massively. I can now walk around 700-1000m without talking a pause, not becoming sweaty or having a high pulse walking at a decently fast pace. If a walk slower I can easily walk further without any issues. This means, normal walking day to day, doing normal chores like shopping etc is non problematic.

Another issues I have had is after sitting down for anything from 5-30+ minutes and standing up to walk, I get very stiff and have to stretch walk a bit before becoming "normal". Around 3-4 weeks ago, this changed where I would be stiffer in the morning than in the evening. So as the day progressed, the time from sitting to walking "normal" became shorter. The past week I have gotten progressively better where the time from sitting to walking "normal" is not much shorter and almost don't have to do any stretching and I will walk "normal" in just a few steps.

With this progress I am guessing I will be walking 100% normal with no more issues in about two months, or about one year post clicking. If people think that is a very long recovery time, and longer than most here - you are right. I think this is down to the length I went, 11,5cm and also issues with tight it-band and not doing an it-band release. Also my age and my severe duck ass haven't helped. So if you are thinking of doing 11,5cm, it is possible, but it may take longer than the usual one year from surgery to 100% recovery. With that being said, one and half year from surgery to 100% recovery for my self is not bad considering the length I did.



I'll answer this question in this same post:
"Can I get more updates on this? Do you feel like you're getting better results with women?"

I have only been out on the town two times post surgery, new years eve, and yesterday. So I don't have enough experience yet for anything meaningful - but I can still share my anecdotes thus far.

Just quick context for those who haven't read all my posts. I have been told by women (and other men) since I was a teenager that I am attractive, and have mostly dated and had girlfriends in the 7-8/10 range (most taller than my old 165cm height). But with that being said, I have never felt that what I have been told by people about how attractive I am, has matched my actual experience and success with women. This has bothered me and messed with my self image for almost my whole adult life. It is first when I read research about how important height is in attraction things started to make sense. In short, you can easily be a 7-8/10 in the face - but because you are 165cm tall in a nordic country most women won't find you attractive. This perfectly explains the discrepancy of my experience with some women finding me very attractive, but most ignoring me -because those who do don't care about height - but most do.

Now to my actual experience. In the day to day I feel that I am getting much more attention from women in all ages, anything from teenage girls to old women. I am getting much more looks, much more stares and much more eye contact with women. First I thought that women was staring because of my gait, but as this has gotten better and better and now almost normal - the looks and attention has not declined. Just yesterday while out shopping, this woman about my age just kept stating at me. I have also experienced that random women have been acting strange and nervous around me, like at the store or in the shops. I have now learned that this probably means that they find you attractive, kind of like how men act strange and become nervous around pretty women.

I wrote about my experience on new years eve in a post back in January, so read that for the full story. But quick recap, I had two beautiful women being interested in me. I have experienced this before, but it happens like once a fort night - so was not expecting it to happen on my first night out post surgery.

I was at a party yesterday, so my second time out post surgery. At this party all the level of good looking people was very high for both women and men - and some of these are even IG influencers with sizeable followings. I felt the bar was kind of high. I do my self have a sizeable following on SoMe, but my content and what I do is neither looks or fashion. Basically all the women where like an 8 or 9 out of then - so kind of out my league. Early on I got positive looks from two of the women, while the rest where kind of just friendly or I just didn't talk to them. But again, I was not there to pick up women, just to have fun with my friends - so I was just doing my thing and not thinking too much about these women. As we where about to go to town on out way out, one of these girls came over to me, took both of my hands and just started dancing with me - but because my limited range of motion in my hips, I found out that I actually can't dance that well yet. So I tried to dance, but then said "sorry, but I am a little stiff in my hips after a surgery - so I can't dance". Later that night out on the town we danced a little more, before I took of an called it a night.

I know it may not sound like a lot, but having this hot girl with like 40k followers on IG coming over to me twice wanting to dance with out me being the one to initiate - I think that is a good sign. As my friend put it "hot women don't go over to men they don't find attractive and start dancing with them".

As I wrote further up, I've only been out twice post surgery - so there is not enough data here to conclude anything. But in my experience I am now two for in attracting hot women WITHOUT me actually taking the initiative and making a move. When I was short I always had to show personality and confidence and be the one to initiate, but my experience this far is that I an getting more attention and that without having to do anything - which is all kind of new too me.

So I think that even if you have normal looks, but are short. Becoming taller will without a doubt improve your success with women. At the end of the day it is all about numbers and increasing your relative dating pool. At the party yesterday I was a good head to half a head taller than all the women, where as before I would probably been the same height than most and I would therefore automatically be discarded. But now being normal I am not, and no longer limited by that factor - so my relative dating pool has increased immensly.

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Femurs with Dr Betz & Dr Becker 14/01/2022
Starting height: 165cm | Reached height: 177cm
Total lengthening: 11,5cm | Age: Mid 30s
My diary: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.0

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Thanks for the detailed response! It's definitely a long road but it's great to see you're still very motivated and keeping at it. Really happy to hear about your progress 8)

Would you say it's mostly walking and stretching so far? Or have you done some strength training as well?
And do you still communicate with Becker?

Can't wait to see the pictures / videos :)
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Day 475 (Day 317 Post clicking)

Things are still moving forward at a decent pace, and my form keeps getting better and better every day.

Here is a video of me walking today:
https://files.fm/u/aj6tez639

Keep in mind that this is right after a hard session at my physiotherapist and being early in the morning. I am usually quite stiff in my muscles after these sessions and I usually need 100-200 meters before my muscles soften up a bit while starting to walk. Either way, my gait is getting better and better using these videos at my PT as reference.

I think I'll post a video of we walking later in the day having warmed up and also with shoes and clothes. As the day progresses my muscles and gait softens up, and walking with shoes also is easier. I have come to point where people don't notice my slight limp from my stiff left IT-band, and after having walked a few hundred meters getting some heat into my body my gait is now almost normal. I have a little hip sway, but watching a video from just two weeks ago, it is reduced a lot.

I stopped using compression stocking yesterday, so day two without them and therefore my muscles are also stiffer than I have been used to. Only reason I have been wearing them is because my muscles feel softer and makes it easier for me to walk. But at some point I have to stop using them, so I am trying for a week to see how it goes.

I am trying to walk 2km every day, and I am still going to my PT three times a week and stretching every day.

I have come to point where walking is no longer a hindrance for doing or joining social events. Was out for hours for a social event on Saturday and walked 3km in total. I feel like my old life is slowly coming back and I have therefore been more and more social with friends, which is nice.

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Femurs with Dr Betz & Dr Becker 14/01/2022
Starting height: 165cm | Reached height: 177cm
Total lengthening: 11,5cm | Age: Mid 30s
My diary: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.0

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As a proportion fanatic, I find the proportions off (fems to tibs) but I must admit that it is not nearly as bad as I thought it would look. The walking is still pretty off though and it os bevause of the IT bands which shows by your knee positions
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Thanks for the update and sharing the video!

It'll be interesting to see you walking with clothes on as well, in particular how your femur-tibia proportions looks like. I'm sure it'll look a lot better. Would also appreciate if you can answer my questions from my previous post :)
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As a proportion fanatic, I find the proportions off (fems to tibs) but I must admit that it is not nearly as bad as I thought it would look. The walking is still pretty off though and it os bevause of the IT bands which shows by your knee positions

Was waiting for somebody to comment about that... first off, I was wearing my boxers really high and also my socks very high making my femurs look extra long and my tibias extra short. Secondly, video was taken with a wide angle lens at a low angle - exaggerating this further.

Here is a photo of me with clothes with a normal lens at a normal angle. My friend is 187cm tall.

https://freeimage.host/i/HScZ86N

Here you can see that my knee breaks a little lower than my friend (break in pants), and though my sweater is higher - that is more because I am wearing a small and have folded it at the bottom and friend hasn't. I see what you are seeing regarding the video, but with clothes and normal lenses my porportions looks fine. Are they perfect? No. Are they good enough? Sure. Do I really care? Nope.

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Femurs with Dr Betz & Dr Becker 14/01/2022
Starting height: 165cm | Reached height: 177cm
Total lengthening: 11,5cm | Age: Mid 30s
My diary: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.0

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Thanks for the detailed response! It's definitely a long road but it's great to see you're still very motivated and keeping at it. Really happy to hear about your progress 8)

Would you say it's mostly walking and stretching so far? Or have you done some strength training as well?
And do you still communicate with Becker?

Can't wait to see the pictures / videos :)


In my daily routine it is mostly walking and stretching and some strength, but not much - no weights. I haven't spoken to him in probably a month or so, I don't need to send any more x-rays for another year or so. So rest is up to me when it comes to stretching and walking. If I have nay questions he is quick to respond, but at this point I have been recovering for so long I just have to let time pass.
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Femurs with Dr Betz & Dr Becker 14/01/2022
Starting height: 165cm | Reached height: 177cm
Total lengthening: 11,5cm | Age: Mid 30s
My diary: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.0

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Was waiting for somebody to comment about that... first off, I was wearing my boxers really high and also my socks very high making my femurs look extra long and my tibias extra short. Secondly, video was taken with a wide angle lens at a low angle - exaggerating this further.

Here is a photo of me with clothes with a normal lens at a normal angle. My friend is 187cm tall.

https://freeimage.host/i/HScZ86N

Here you can see that my knee breaks a little lower than my friend (break in pants), and though my sweater is higher - that is more because I am wearing a small and have folded it at the bottom and friend hasn't. I see what you are seeing regarding the video, but with clothes and normal lenses my porportions looks fine. Are they perfect? No. Are they good enough? Sure. Do I really care? Nope.

I wasnt critisizing you. You did a very big amount and I said that I am a proportion fanatic. In fact, your legs to body ratio even in the vid looks good. With cloths you look normal proportionally but still you can see the effect of the IT bands
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In my daily routine it is mostly walking and stretching and some strength, but not much - no weights. I haven't spoken to him in probably a month or so, I don't need to send any more x-rays for another year or so. So rest is up to me when it comes to stretching and walking. If I have nay questions he is quick to respond, but at this point I have been recovering for so long I just have to let time pass.

Got it! Why no weights for now? You don't want to build more muscle?
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I wasnt critisizing you. You did a very big amount and I said that I am a proportion fanatic. In fact, your legs to body ratio even in the vid looks good. With cloths you look normal proportionally but still you can see the effect of the IT bands

Oh, no I wasn't taking it as critique :) I just want to be clear about how the video distorts what I really look like, hence me uploading that photo where you also think I look normal proportionally.

 "but still you can see the effect of the IT bands"

Not sure what you mean by this? Are you talking about how I stand wide with my legs?
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Starting height: 165cm | Reached height: 177cm
Total lengthening: 11,5cm | Age: Mid 30s
My diary: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.0

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Got it! Why no weights for now? You don't want to build more muscle?

Yes I do, and probably should. But since I did weight bearing I didn't loose much muscle, if any. I weighted 58kgs before surgery, and at most I was 72kgs around Christmas. I am down to 67kgs now. Since I work 70-80 hour weeks I haven't time to both work, walk, stretch, do physio and go to the gym. But I am going to start running this or next week at the gym, and will probably start building muscle.
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Femurs with Dr Betz & Dr Becker 14/01/2022
Starting height: 165cm | Reached height: 177cm
Total lengthening: 11,5cm | Age: Mid 30s
My diary: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.0

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Oh, no I wasn't taking it as critique :) I just want to be clear about how the video distorts what I really look like, hence me uploading that photo where you also think I look normal proportionally.

 "but still you can see the effect of the IT bands"

Not sure what you mean by this? Are you talking about how I stand wide with my legs?
Yes. They are wide and not straight
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Hey Stand Taller !
Congrats for your surgery ! Hope everything is ok. I would like to know what was your proportions before and after surgery please.
- height
- arm to body ratio
- tibia/femur ratio
- leg to body ratio

Thanks you so much. I am thinking of doing LL with betzinstitute.
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Height : 162cm
Goal : +8cm femurs

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Congrats again ST!

Do you think it was worth it lengthening that much in the end if you’re still not back to normal?
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Hey Stand Taller !
Congrats for your surgery ! Hope everything is ok. I would like to know what was your proportions before and after surgery please.
- height
- arm to body ratio
- tibia/femur ratio
- leg to body ratio

Thanks you so much. I am thinking of doing LL with betzinstitute.

Not sure about all the different ratios, maybe I can try to measure them all one day. But look at the photo further up with me and my physiotherapist. He is 180cm and I am 177cm, I think I look pretty normal next to him.
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Starting height: 165cm | Reached height: 177cm
Total lengthening: 11,5cm | Age: Mid 30s
My diary: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.0

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Congrats again ST!

Do you think it was worth it lengthening that much in the end if you’re still not back to normal?

Thanks!

Yes I absolutely do! I am getting better every day and I am almost back to normal walking at this point. Next for me is to start running.

Went out with a friend this Friday to this mini-golf bar. I told my friend that it is a fun place because usually you get so socialize with new people when you are waiting for your turn at the holes. So we walk in, go over to the bar where you also get clubs and balls for playing. There are these two girls standing in front of us in line, I notice in the corner of my eye the blond (the other was i brunette) staring at me. Then a few seconds later she says hi and start talking to us. We stand there for a few minutes talking and decide to play our rounds together. This blond keeps ogling me throughout the whole evening and gets more and more flirty, while I am just acting 100% chill and kind or nonchalant. Not really making any effort right.

Later that night we get separated, but before that she ads me on IG. On my way home I ad here back and message here "awake"?, she replies within a minute "jupp". I ask "where did you go"?, she replies "I went home, wanna come over"?

I think hard for a few minutes, because it is now like 03:00 in the morning I and not really wanting to wake up somewhere else that my own bed tomorrow morning, and I finally reply "on my way home in an taxi, but maybe another time" and she writes "too bad, so sad"

This is my third time going out since my surgery, and though three times out is not a very large sample size at all - I am now three for three where women are the ones taking the initiative to interact and talk to me - and this time even invite me over at 03:00. It is not like this hasn't happened to me before, but my experience for more than 25 years interacting with females is that 95/100 times I have to do all the work for any type of success.

Again, the sample size is only three - but the trend is very interesting and my better than I ever expected. Research does show ho important height is for women, but I never ever did expect things to be this day and night compared to pre-surgery.

So no, I have no regrets what so ever - and If this attention from women continues that1s gonna be a lot of fun. Anybody have similar experience post-surgery?
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Starting height: 165cm | Reached height: 177cm
Total lengthening: 11,5cm | Age: Mid 30s
My diary: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.0

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Holy Crap MAN!!

Doing the surgery on late July with Dr. Becker. After I'm done with mine, tell me where you are, I wanna go out with you to get the gurls!!


Now seriously, I'm so happy for you man. It really take a lot of balls to actually do this  , let alone going for 11.5 cm successfully. I really think the bes thing about all of this is not only the heigh gain, but the bulletproof mind that comes with it. If you can do this, you can do anything.

Keep this diary up man!
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Holy Crap MAN!!

Doing the surgery on late July with Dr. Becker. After I'm done with mine, tell me where you are, I wanna go out with you to get the gurls!!


Now seriously, I'm so happy for you man. It really take a lot of balls to actually do this  , let alone going for 11.5 cm successfully. I really think the bes thing about all of this is not only the heigh gain, but the bulletproof mind that comes with it. If you can do this, you can do anything.

Keep this diary up man!

Congrats on deciding to do it! What's your starting height and goal? Sure, we can go out!

In all seriousness I feel there is a lack of people sharing their experience with women pre and post surgery. Though this may not be the main reason for people getting this surgery, I think for many it is very important. This is why I am trying my best to share those experiences and will continue to. I am also hoping that other people can share theirs as well. I searched the internet for pre and post stories on how becoming taller has affected peoples success with women and have found little on that subject. Just think about it, every one of us getting this surgery will have a unique experience on how women treat us as a short and a normal or tall person.

From the age of around 13-14 til I was past my mid 30s I have lived as a short man. I have more than two decades of experience and expectations on how to be treated and how successful or not I am with women. To go from that, to being normal height and "suddenly" being treated differently is imo extremely interesting. And I would love to hear about other pre and post surgery experiences.

Yeah, after going through this you do come out the other end with a stronger mind, will and outlook on life. This is the real definition of "no pain, no gain"

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Starting height: 165cm | Reached height: 177cm
Total lengthening: 11,5cm | Age: Mid 30s
My diary: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.0

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My starting height is 172,5cm with a with an armspan of 178cm. My story is pretty similar to yours. I've never had any issue with women, get to flirt with them or having sex , as long as they are the same height as me. I'm in the medical field, and I guess I do well socio-economically which is even more important for women than height in my opinion. I'm fit and usually around 10% body fat.

Even though sometimes I felt awkward in social setting situations like weddings or clubs when women wear high heels, the last time I felt some kind of height dysphoria was a decade ago, and since I didn´t know there was a ''solution' to my problem, I just forget about and cancelled in my brain. But somehow, the YouTube algorithm showed my a video from Victor (Cyborg 4LIFE) and everything changed. Knowing that there was a solution to my height or lack of Height rather, I just cannot stand the idea of not being my best version of myself in that situation also. And after researching it a lot, I decided to go for it.

I live in the south of Europe, and in my country the average height for women is not high, probably around 162 cm and for men around 176, so being 180cm (+8cm) is the goal. If I feel good and Dr. Becker allows it, I would go to 9cm and for sure not going past 10cm. I will probably talk to Becker about the IT band release, and what he thinks about doing a partial release. I already set up everything (or tried to) to be successful in my journey, already stretching, yoga, not training legs at all... etc but it's going to suck, and I'm mentally prepared for it.

I would love if you can give us some more insight on how the everyday life is during lengthening (walking in your job, if you can use the stairs if you need it, driving etc.)

Thanks brother
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Congrats on deciding to do it! What's your starting height and goal? Sure, we can go out!

In all seriousness I feel there is a lack of people sharing their experience with women pre and post surgery. Though this may not be the main reason for people getting this surgery, I think for many it is very important. This is why I am trying my best to share those experiences and will continue to. I am also hoping that other people can share theirs as well. I searched the internet for pre and post stories on how becoming taller has affected peoples success with women and have found little on that subject. Just think about it, every one of us getting this surgery will have a unique experience on how women treat us as a short and a normal or tall person.

From the age of around 13-14 til I was past my mid 30s I have lived as a short man. I have more than two decades of experience and expectations on how to be treated and how successful or not I am with women. To go from that, to being normal height and "suddenly" being treated differently is imo extremely interesting. And I would love to hear about other pre and post surgery experiences.

Yeah, after going through this you do come out the other end with a stronger mind, will and outlook on life. This is the real definition of "no pain, no gain"

I actually believe dating is the nber 1 reason for most if not all male llers.. I dont inderstand why people are ashamed to admit that they believe (correctly or not) that their height hinders their dating life.

About post op dating life, from the legit diaries I have read, there was a massive improvent with people going from like around your height to 173+ while those going from 175 to 180+ reported modest are even no improvement
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My starting height is 172,5cm with a with an armspan of 178cm. My story is pretty similar to yours. I've never had any issue with women, get to flirt with them or having sxx , as long as they are the same height as me. I'm in the medical field, and I guess I do well socio-economically which is even more important for women than height in my opinion. I'm fit and usually around 10% body fat.

Even though sometimes I felt awkward in social setting situations like weddings or clubs when women wear high heels, the last time I felt some kind of height dysphoria was a decade ago, and since I didn´t know there was a ''solution' to my problem, I just forget about and cancelled in my brain. But somehow, the YouTube algorithm showed my a video from Victor (Cyborg 4LIFE) and everything changed. Knowing that there was a solution to my height or lack of Height rather, I just cannot stand the idea of not being my best version of myself in that situation also. And after researching it a lot, I decided to go for it.

I live in the south of Europe, and in my country the average height for women is not high, probably around 162 cm and for men around 176, so being 180cm (+8cm) is the goal. If I feel good and Dr. Becker allows it, I would go to 9cm and for sure not going past 10cm. I will probably talk to Becker about the IT band release, and what he thinks about doing a partial release. I already set up everything (or tried to) to be successful in my journey, already stretching, yoga, not training legs at all... etc but it's going to suck, and I'm mentally prepared for it.

I would love if you can give us some more insight on how the everyday life is during lengthening (walking in your job, if you can use the stairs if you need it, driving etc.)

Thanks brother

Hit me up on a personal message once you're done reaching your new height and we can go out to bars!

I would say in my teens and into my early 20s I did pretty decent with women, but as I got older I felt things have gotten progressively harder. I have been in pretty much the same shape, and was actually in my best even shape in my lates 20s playing sports at a very high level. Imo opinion I thought also I had matured pretty good looking better in the face in my late 20s than I did in my early 20s. I would still get women as I got even older, but I my experience was that I would have to meet many more women to be able to "find" those I could attract. It would make a lot more sense if as I got older the quality of women got worse. If I was attracting 7s and 8s earlier, but now only attracting 5s and 6s. It wasn't like that though. I could still attract 7s and 8s, but they would just come around less often and it's not like I had better success with 5s or 6s either.

For me it was more like an ON / OFF switch. For every 7 or 8 being interested I would meet 30 7s or 8s who showed no interest. When in my teens I would it would be more like every 7 or 8 being interested I would meet 5 to 10 girls being 7s or 8s who showed no interest. My hypothesis is that younger girls and women aren't that sensitive to height, but as they and the men get older height becomes much more important. If you consider that men on average stop growing around age 21 - 23 that also makes a lot sense.

I have written extensively about my whole journey earlier in this diary. So go back and read it from the beginning for answers to your questions. What I wrote at the time will much more accurate than what I remember now.

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Femurs with Dr Betz & Dr Becker 14/01/2022
Starting height: 165cm | Reached height: 177cm
Total lengthening: 11,5cm | Age: Mid 30s
My diary: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=69034.0
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