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[Asi219]

You story is very interesting, I was also thinking about to do my surgery with the dr. Betz, only I am a little bit scared about the method. One question: what about if one leg is longer than the other leg ? Can the system make also shortening? For example if you have bad bone healing or to much difference between the legs?

[Siegfried]

No, you cant revert the distraction with the betz bone. This is only possible with precice.

[Stand taller]

Day 185 (Day 27 Post clicking)

Time for another update guys, and things are improving - but slowly. I still have duck ass (see attached photo), and I measured it to be 43,3 degrees. Normal duck ass is around 6-7 degrees, so this means I am 36,3 - 37,3 degrees away from being normal. If I am able to correct this with around 9 degrees a week, I will have gotten rid of my duck ass in four weeks. Is this realistic? Well, not easy to say yet. But I can say that I am stretching in total one and half hours a day, and around 40-45 minutes of this has the past few days been dedicated to working on duck ass. I also work on this with my physiotherapist three times a week. I am in other words putting a lot of work into it, but I also feel that with some progress now. It is easier for my body to handle even more work correcting my duck ass. Just a few weeks ago, most of the stretching with duck ass was really straining my lower back. But now with less duck ass, more of the work actually goes towards stretching the correct areas. 43,3 degrees of duck ass might seem bad, and it's not good - but just a two - three weeks ago I was at around 60-65 degrees. So it is certainly an improvement.

The hardest thing about having this much duck ass is walking, or the ability not to walk without crutches. Again, as my duck ass has improved I am able to walk a little more every day. I can now move a few steps around in my kitchen. Just a week ago, this was not possbile. I am therefore hoping I will be rid of duck ass and be able to walk without crutches in around 4-5 weeks. This means I would be able to walk two months post clicking. I still feel this may be a little too optimistic, but again -  mot of my improvement has been in the last week or two. The first week or two I did not see much improvement in mobility - but I did see pain in knees etc getting less every day and also flexibility improving.

I took my second check-up X-rays a week ago, and according to Dr Becker and Dr Betz they are excellent. I tried measuring the gap with the tool on the website where the doctor uploaded them. But Dr Becker told me not to pay too much attention to the measurements, because the clicking list should be the most accurate. Buuuuuut... if there is any accuracy I've actually gained 0,4cm more than my calculations. We will have to see what my final height is when I can stand straight though.

I have now been on crutches for more than six months, and this process has taken a long time. Especially considering the fact that I do not stand at my proper height due to my duck ass is a real buzzkill. So if you are considering doing 10cm + just know that it may take longer than anticipated to recover. But the good news is that things are improving every day, but at slow rate.

I'll keep you guys posted on the progress!


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[we.live.once]

Amazing, 11.5cm with one surgery! Do you have strong visible scars?

[thankscience]

Not sure if I missed it, but how old are you?

Good luck with the recovery! What cm do you think you started experiencing severe duckass?

[Stand taller]

Not sure if I missed it, but how old are you?

Good luck with the recovery! What cm do you think you started experiencing severe duckass?

I'm in my mid 30's (you'll find my stats in my signature)

I took a look back at some photos I took, and here I am at around 171cm. In this photo I basically have no duck ass.

https://freeimage.host/i/wvSutf

This photo is at around 173,5cm and I have a little more duck ass, but still not very visible.

https://freeimage.host/i/wvSMtj

So I think after I reached this length my duck ass got progressive worse. If I slowed down the click-rate I probably would have been able to keep it to a minimum. But that also means I would have prolonged the lengthening process more. But I'm guessing my duck ass probably would have gotten worse either way.

[informationispower]

Do you have photos of you at the end? I am curious on the impact on proportions.

Wish you a quick and painless consolidatiom and a swift return to normal life

[Stand taller]

Do you have photos of you at the end? I am curious on the impact on proportions.

Wish you a quick and painless consolidatiom and a swift return to normal life

The first photo in my last update (Day 185) is how I look now. Since I have duck ass it is hard too see proportions, but when I can stand straight I will provide photos and video.

But as I've said before, my proportions are normal now and much better than before CLL. My sitting height is similar to friends who are around 178-80cm tall, and now my femurs and tibia are almost identical in length to my brother in law who is 178cm tall.

[thankscience]

I'm in my mid 30's (you'll find my stats in my signature)

I took a look back at some photos I took, and here I am at around 171cm. In this photo I basically have no duck ass.

https://freeimage.host/i/wvSutf

This photo is at around 173,5cm and I have a little more duck ass, but still not very visible.

https://freeimage.host/i/wvSMtj

So I think after I reached this length my duck ass got progressive worse. If I slowed down the click-rate I probably would have been able to keep it to a minimum. But that also means I would have prolonged the lengthening process more. But I'm guessing my duck ass probably would have gotten worse either way.

Thanks for the response!

Interesting, so it didn't really take until over 8cms before your duckass started becoming pronounced.

Did you tell your family that you underwent LL?

[Stand taller]

Thanks for the response!

Interesting, so it didn't really take until over 8cms before your duckass started becoming pronounced.

Did you tell your family that you underwent LL?

That is correct, no noticeable duck ass before around 8 - 8,5cm, but I did have wide legs quite early. Maybe after 2-3cm. I did stretching exercises about an hour every day at this point, and went to physio two times a week.

I told my close friends and close family around 8-10 months before my surgery, and more friends and family right before and after surgery. I would highly recommend this, because you will need help and moral support.

[Limblengtheningwarrior]

I just sent you a message, please have a check. Thank you in advance

[thankscience]

That is correct, no noticeable duck ass before around 8 - 8,5cm, but I did have wide legs quite early. Maybe after 2-3cm. I did stretching exercises about an hour every day at this point, and went to physio two times a week.

I told my close friends and close family around 8-10 months before my surgery, and more friends and family right before and after surgery. I would highly recommend this, because you will need help and moral support.

What was your preparation like before the surgery? Were you very flexible?

How did your family/friends react?

[doomsday]

Out of curiosity. Whats is your sitting height?

[Stand taller]

What was your preparation like before the surgery? Were you very flexible?

How did your family/friends react?

I did around 30-40 minutes of stretching every day two months prior to surgery. I had okay flexibility, but I wish I had focused more on my hip flexors - because I probably wouldn't have had this much duck ass.

My family and friends were really supportive.

[Stand taller]

Out of curiosity. Whats is your sitting height?

I haven't measured, but in the image below (me to the left) I have the same sitting height (maybe even half cm more) than my friend who is 178cm tall.

https://freeimage.host/i/wrlAgf

[everythingbutheight]

I haven't measured, but in the image below (me to the left) I have the same sitting height (maybe even half cm more) than my friend who is 178cm tall.

https://freeimage.host/i/wrlAgf

Congrats on everything. My frame and height is similar to yours so it's inspiring to see you achieve this. Would love to see a side by side comparison once you've resolved your duckass and an insight to how it feels once you're officially at 1.77 height.

[Stand taller]

Day 199 (Day 41 Post clicking)

Hey guys!

Here with another update, but before that I want to correct the angle of duck ass measured in my last duck ass angle update. In that post I measured the angle of duck ass to be 43,3 degrees. But after taking photos almost every day the last 16 days I've gotten more precise at measuring the angle, meaning the actual angle in that photo was actually 46,9 degrees. I've also measured the angle from photos the days before and after, and they are all around that same angle. The angle does change a litte from day to day, and not all days are progress.

After upping my stretching game at home and doing different stretching exercises with my physiotherapist, I've been able to improve! The angle of my duck ass is now for the first time since reaching my height below 30 degrees, and the actual angle is 29,8 degrees. An improvement of 17,1 degrees in 16 days! (see photo below)

https://freeimage.host/i/SvxpWJ

If I continue improving at this rate I will have a normal anterior pelvis tilt of around 4-7 degrees in around 23 - 26 days. For me this is great news and for a long time I felt that it would take many months for me to stand straight and potentially walk. As my duck ass has improve so has my mobility. I am able to walk more and more at home without crutches, though my gait is nothing to write home about. At least I am able to move around, and this also seems to be improving little by little every day.

In the past six weeks since I reached my height I've had 12 accidental clicks on my left leg and none in my right leg. But this also seems to be over since my bone are now consolidated so much that accidental clicks should no longer be possible. Lastly I stopped all pain medication around a week ago, I was using paracetamol three times a day up until a few weeks ago. I reduced the dosages until I stopped all together. Though I do occasionally have some nerve pain here and there, I have not pain from the bones at all.

With the improved duck ass I am also standing a little taller every day, still not at my full height I am getting closer. I hung out with a friend of mine yesterday who is 180cm tall, and I have never felt this close in height to him ever. It was such an interesting feel having been almost a head shorter than him, I now felt I was almost eye level.

Lastly I'll leave you guys with a photo of me and my physiotherapist, she is 172cm and you can see how much taller I am than her now.

https://freeimage.host/i/SvIOu9

I'm gonna keep on pushing and will keep you guys updated on the progress!

[massco]

Hello,
Congratulations on your new height! Really inspiring.
We will continue to follow your updates, your proportions look really good. Would love to see a before and after picture if you can.

Please keep in touch.

[Stand taller]

Day 226 (Day 68 Post clicking)

Almost a month since I've written an update, so here it goes.

First let's start with the bad, and that is I still have duck ass and I am still very much on crutches. My old method for measuring anterior pelvic tilt (duck ass) has shown to be more and more difficult to measure the more I correct it. But from what I am able to measure my anterior pelvic tilt seems to be around 20-21 degrees. So an improvement of around 9-10 degrees since last update, that is still progress.

Here is photo: https://freeimage.host/i/4uHdJV

My gait and especially the strength in my legs are improving on a daily basis, but outside the house I am still 100% reliant on crutches. At home though I've tried to move around more and more without crutches and am able to move shorter distances inside without crutches. My gait is still not good, but getting better every day without the crutches. After recommendation from Dr Becker I will start walking with just one crutch moving forward. I hope this will speed up my progress.

Now for some good news and that is my muscles seems to be softening up and now letting go while stretching. Since my surgery my muscles have been stiff, but they have also seemed to be very limited in their elasticity. While stretching it seemed like I was hitting a wall, especially my hip flexors. Almost to the point I felt my duck ass was caused by a physical barrier rather than a muscular one. But last week felt like a milestone, because where I earlier hit this wall while stretching i don' anymore. Now I hit more of a much softer resistance, but holding the stretch for around ten seconds the muscles just seem to let go and I can just easily push though. This is a huge step forward, and I hope the correction of my anterior pelvic tilt can now move more speedily forward.

Other than this I basically have no muscular pain, and have not had any nerve pain in several weeks.

Because my duck ass has improved I also stand taller, here is phot of me and my friend I wrote about in the last post. He is 180cm tall, and now I stand almost as tall as him. Imo it's hard to see much of a difference, I am on the left.

Here is a photo: https://freeimage.host/i/4u2T5Q

Lastly I'll live your with this. I was at an event last weekend, and I was mostly sitting because I am on crutches. But when I did walk around I was taller than around half the menn there, and almost all the women. And of course being 177cm tall I am just a cm or two below the average male in my country, so this does put me at taller than around 50% of all males (or just right below 50% to be precise). So all of this does make sense, but for me to go from never being taller than any males and below the average height of females where I live to being taller than half the men and almost all women just feels so strange, wonderful and awesome. This feeling is so hard to explain, and I feel my height dysphoria is almost 100% cured, and I am sure once I can walk and stand straight it will go away completely.

It's been a long and tiresome journey, and I still have a long way to go. But I feel better every day now, and that is something I can appreciate.

[hippo60]

Day 226 (Day 68 Post clicking)

Amazing journey and diary! Maybe it's time for another update?

[Stand taller]

I'll do an update soon!

Amazing journey and diary! Maybe it's time for another update?

[Mini0510]

I did around 30-40 minutes of stretching every day two months prior to surgery. I had okay flexibility, but I wish I had focused more on my hip flexors - because I probably wouldn't have had this much duck ass.

My family and friends were really supportive.

how would you rate your flexibility? like what can you do and what you can't do? Just want to see where I'm at too.

also going beyond 8cm on the femur? How do you feel about your flexibility? Did you just keep going until you were too tight and you finally stopped at 11.5cm?

and what if you couldn't have did beyond 8cm? Would you have done your tibas to get your desired height?
going beyond 8cm was the reason you chose betz bone over precice?

[SpeedDialer]

Day 226 (Day 68 Post clicking)

Almost a month since I've written an update, so here it goes.

First let's start with the bad, and that is I still have duck ass and I am still very much on crutches. My old method for measuring anterior pelvic tilt (duck ass) has shown to be more and more difficult to measure the more I correct it. But from what I am able to measure my anterior pelvic tilt seems to be around 20-21 degrees. So an improvement of around 9-10 degrees since last update, that is still progress.

Here is photo: https://freeimage.host/i/4uHdJV

My gait and especially the strength in my legs are improving on a daily basis, but outside the house I am still 100% reliant on crutches. At home though I've tried to move around more and more without crutches and am able to move shorter distances inside without crutches. My gait is still not good, but getting better every day without the crutches. After recommendation from Dr Becker I will start walking with just one crutch moving forward. I hope this will speed up my progress.

Now for some good news and that is my muscles seems to be softening up and now letting go while stretching. Since my surgery my muscles have been stiff, but they have also seemed to be very limited in their elasticity. While stretching it seemed like I was hitting a wall, especially my hip flexors. Almost to the point I felt my duck ass was caused by a physical barrier rather than a muscular one. But last week felt like a milestone, because where I earlier hit this wall while stretching i don' anymore. Now I hit more of a much softer resistance, but holding the stretch for around ten seconds the muscles just seem to let go and I can just easily push though. This is a huge step forward, and I hope the correction of my anterior pelvic tilt can now move more speedily forward.

Other than this I basically have no muscular pain, and have not had any nerve pain in several weeks.

Because my duck ass has improved I also stand taller, here is phot of me and my friend I wrote about in the last post. He is 180cm tall, and now I stand almost as tall as him. Imo it's hard to see much of a difference, I am on the left.

Here is a photo: https://freeimage.host/i/4u2T5Q

Lastly I'll live your with this. I was at an event last weekend, and I was mostly sitting because I am on crutches. But when I did walk around I was taller than around half the menn there, and almost all the women. And of course being 177cm tall I am just a cm or two below the average male in my country, so this does put me at taller than around 50% of all males (or just right below 50% to be precise). So all of this does make sense, but for me to go from never being taller than any males and below the average height of females where I live to being taller than half the men and almost all women just feels so strange, wonderful and awesome. This feeling is so hard to explain, and I feel my height dysphoria is almost 100% cured, and I am sure once I can walk and stand straight it will go away completely.

It's been a long and tiresome journey, and I still have a long way to go. But I feel better every day now, and that is something I can appreciate.

Great post!

[Stand taller]

Day 307 (Day 149 Post clicking)

Almost three months since I've written an update, but the next few updates will be more frequent!

So let's start with the "not so" good, I still have duck ass - but I am getting closer and closer to resolving it every day! At this point my duck ass is basically only visible for me under the mirror as seen in the photo below. With clothes it is almost invisible.

https://freeimage.host/i/H9DlVpf

Now for the good! My duck ass has been improving a lot lately, with great progress almost daily. So I genuinely think it will be 100% resolved in a month or two - I am feeling much more optimistic lately about it. In the past week or so I have managed to reduce it so much that there no longer is strain on my lower back and I can walk and stand for much longer periods.

Two and half months ago I stopped using crutches at home in the day time. Then after three or four weeks a stopped using them at night as well. Then I was able to walk from my car to my apartment (around 60 meters at a slight downward incline) without them, and after a few more weeks I could walk to my car without them (slight uphill). Then I started challenging myself the two flight of stairs to my apartment without crutches, and then eventually walking down the two flights without holding the rail.

Around two weeks ago I felt confident walking shorter distances outside without the crutches, and about a week ago I only used one crutch going outside when going to the mall for a few hours. But this week I have stopped using them altogether, and the past few days I haven't used them once. The issue up until recently was my lower back getting very tired while walking because of my duck ass. The past few days I have been able to stand so much upright that I don't have that stress on my lower back anymore and I now instead feel tired in my legs.

My physiotherapist says that I will see rapid progress now that I have stopped using the crutches all together. I still have some stiffness and my left hip is much more still than my right, so I do walk with a slight limp (I'll post a video soon). But again, just from yesterday to today I have seen improvement in my walk. If I keep improving at this rate, I will be walking normally in around a month or two.

My goal for normal walking is of course January 15, which would be exactly a year after I got this surgery. That would mean it took me 7 months to walk normally after finishing clicking, but again I did to an extreme lengthening at 11,5cm! For the past 4-5 months I have been positive, but have also been in kind of a zombie state where I just wanted to fast forward being recovered. Finally I am seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. And I am now done with the crutches which is a great milestone.

For anybody out there in the lengthening or recovery process, just remember this is a marathon and not a sprint. How ever much pain you may be in or how far recovery might seem - the pain will go away and you will recover. It will just take time, and the longer you lengthen, the longer the recovery.

Days after my last update I genuinely thought I would never walk again, but here I am two and half months later and I am walking and getting better every day.

Dr Becker told me something worth repeating. "Great, one year for 11,5cm - amazing what you body can handle. Imagine a child during growth phase would nee about double the time". When I step back and think about it, he is 100% correct, it is amazing if I can walk normally after only one year for growing 11,5cm!

Stay positive and keep pushing!

[thankscience]

Great to hear your duck ass is subsiding. I noticed that you were using crutches a lot longer than most people with weightbearing nails after surgery - was this due to how much you lengthened and the duck ass?

[OzBoy39]

Same from me, good to hear you're getting better and better.
Reading your diary has been so useful to somewhat foresee what's coming up at various stages of the lengthening (and soon consolidation).

11.5cm is crazy (in a good sense I mean) and being at almost 7cm myself , I have a profound respect for the effort that you must have put in.

Please keep updating us whenever you can. And thank you!!!

[Stand taller]

Great to hear your duck ass is subsiding. I noticed that you were using crutches a lot longer than most people with weightbearing nails after surgery - was this due to how much you lengthened and the duck ass?

Yeah it feels great that is finally is, I have had duck ass for a long time now! Yes the reason I was walking with crutches for such a long time was because of duck ass. Around the time I was done lengthening my duck ass was really extreme, and I had no chance of walking. I also think the fact that I did develop bad duck ass meant I didn't walk as much as others without crutches and my muscle grew weaker, and also my extreme length made all of it worse.

[Stand taller]

Same from me, good to hear you're getting better and better.
Reading your diary has been so useful to somewhat foresee what's coming up at various stages of the lengthening (and soon consolidation).

11.5cm is crazy (in a good sense I mean) and being at almost 7cm myself , I have a profound respect for the effort that you must have put in.

Please keep updating us whenever you can. And thank you!!!

Thanks! I read a lot of diaries before lengthening and did not foresee me developing such bad duck ass myself. I read a lot about wide legs and IT-Band release, but stories about duck ass weren't massively widespread. And then there aren't many here (if any?) that have done as much length as me? So I hope this can prepare people for doing extreme length. In retrospect I would have focused on stretching my hips much more and flexibility around that so I maybe could mitigate duck ass altogether. I focused a lot on wide legs and did develop this at around 2-3 cm, but with focused work I got rid of this at around 5-6 cm. But I then developed duck ass at around 7-8cm and it got worse till the day I stopped lengthening. I have had to work so hard for so many months to get to where I am now. Getting rid of duck ass has by far been the worst and hardest thing about this whole surgery!

[Taller90]

Congratulation StandTaller! I have been going through the same journey like you but with lengthening less than 1 cm than you (10,75 cm only).

End of next week, it will be exactly three months post-clicking for me (I stopped 31th August) and I am almost fully recovered and can do almost every daily routines like before. I have passed the crutches three weeks ago and I have noticed since this time my gluteus got strong very much and this has improved my gait further. I need to concentrate and walk slowly to avoid swinging but I am sure this is also only a question of time.

You are  also a really good example that large lengthening amounts are realistic, unlike do doctors other than Betz/Becker say (at least with a weight-bearing nail). It is not gonna be easy and along a lot of side effects like duck ass, wide legs, lower back pain etc. but it is manageable. I don't know how it is in your case but the real good thing of improving your duck ass is that you will gonna come closer to your final end. When I stopped lengthening I was about 172 cm and now I am almost 174 cm (173,8 to be precise .

So be exited where you will end up.

[hippo60]

Congrats on the progress, amazing to hear! 

[Stand taller]

Congratulation StandTaller! I have been going through the same journey like you but with lengthening less than 1 cm than you (10,75 cm only).

End of next week, it will be exactly three months post-clicking for me (I stopped 31th August) and I am almost fully recovered and can do almost every daily routines like before. I have passed the crutches three weeks ago and I have noticed since this time my gluteus got strong very much and this has improved my gait further. I need to concentrate and walk slowly to avoid swinging but I am sure this is also only a question of time.

You are  also a really good example that large lengthening amounts are realistic, unlike do doctors other than Betz/Becker say (at least with a weight-bearing nail). It is not gonna be easy and along a lot of side effects like duck ass, wide legs, lower back pain etc. but it is manageable. I don't know how it is in your case but the real good thing of improving your duck ass is that you will gonna come closer to your final end. When I stopped lengthening I was about 172 cm and now I am almost 174 cm (173,8 to be precise .

So be exited where you will end up.

Congrats to yourself Taller90! Wow, you've done almost the same length I me! Do I remember correctly that you also had duck ass? Do you still have it? How severe is it if so? How has your progress with strength and stamina been after you stopped using the crutches? I still feel like I am a walking in a pool of water, so I do need strength to walk and that does make me quicker tired and limits how far I can walk.

How are you experiencing your new height? Even though I am also probably missing 1-2 cm my life has already changed, I don't feel small anymore. Hung out with a friend today who is 180cm, and I feel basically the same height as him. But it is still such strange and awesome sensation feeling the same height as him and being able to look him straight into his eyes.

Here is a photo of me earlier this week with my physiotherapist who is 180cm tall!

https://freeimage.host/i/HHF9EWg