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[Stand taller]

Day 9

Today I did my first scheduled clicks, 6 on the left leg and 6 on the right leg. After understanding the technique is was fairly easy, and all click except the first on the right leg "hurt". Let me clarify, the movement to click stretches your inner thigh muscles - so when this muscles isn't stretched enough you'll feel the pain. So stretching this muscle for around 7-8 minutes resolved the issue. Total time with the stretching and clicks was 20 minutes. The plan is to do another 7-8 clicks later today.

Yesterday we started reducing my pain medication, and probably too much. Last night I had a little bit of pain and muscle aches, enough to disrupt my sleep. We have now changed the dosage, so sleeping should be without any discomforts.

Things in general are getting easier and easier for every that passes by, I just hope things stay like this in the future.

[c]

延长11厘米，你真的疯了，你以后除了走路什么都做不了，你现在还有时间去改变，比如做5厘米

[Stand taller]

Day 29

Haven't written anything here in a while because I've been so busy getting back to normal life with work and all. After two weeks in Freiburg I travelled back home, and have now been home for a little more than two weeks. The first day home was quite hard with a lot pain probably because the travel home was long and tiresome. After settling down home things have been much better and I've found a very good rutine for clicking. I do 15 clicks a day with seems to be a nice balance with stretching and over all comfort. I did to 20 clicks a day for a few days but I had more pain (growing pains) and clicking was also a bit harder. So 15 clicks seem to be a nice balance, and the plan is to do 15 clicks throughout the lengthening process. According to te initial distraction and the amount now lengthened I am at around 167cm now! I both feel and look taller, it is such an insane feeling - and I still have around 9cm to go! WOW!

Pain levels are different from day to day, some days are good and others are harder. But there is correlation between the amount of activity and pain, the more active I am the more paint I usually have the day after. So I am trying not to overdo it, but some days it's hard to stay calm. Also driving is pain when done for longer periods and after a few hours I do become very stiff.

Over all though, things are going very well and I hope keeping up with the daily stretching (3-5 times a day), being active (walking and ergometer) and going to physio keeps things balanced throughout the lengthening period.

Stand taller

[Siegfried]

The surgery was in Freiburg, very interesting! Freiburg is the most beautiful city in Germany, in my opinion. It was also voted as the city with the highest quality of life in Germany this year. Great place to recover!

[Stand taller]

Day 67

Yet another update, and it's been over a month since I last wrote here.

As before I've been busy and tired with my normal day to day life. Before surgery I would usually work 40-70 hours a week, and now I'm barely able to manage more than 5-6 hours. So that has been hard, pretty much not having the same energy levels are before.

I've now lengthened a little more than 5 cm and now stand at 170cm tall! It is such a strange, cool and special feeling being more than 170cm tall now, and knowing that even if I stopped lengthening tomorrow my new height is permanent. When I was 165cm tall I felt like a small human being or a small man, but I do not feel like small person anymore. Sure I am not the tallest, and not tall my any means. BUT I DO NOT FEEL SMALL anymore, which is such an insane feeling. I am also only 5 days from my half way point, which i really motivating.

Pain has varied a lot, and I feel like I've had pain just about everywhere. I've had quite a bit pain in my thighs while lifting up (removing weight) and also over my knees. I also have numbness on the inside of my right chin. A few weeks ago I actually experienced a burning sensation for about five minutes there, and it is the worst pain I've ever had in my life. I experienced this three days in a row and was advised to reduce clicking to 12 clicks a day instead of 15 clicks a day. This helped a lot and I've not experienced that level of pain after that. I am still numb and have some quick pulling pain from there, but nothing too bad.

The last week basically all of the pain I had in my femurs has disappeared. And I've gained more flexibility. Two days ago I also stopped taking Nobligan (Tramadol) some strong painkillers, and have had normal withdrawal symptoms after having used them for more than two months. The symptoms are a bit difficult, but with a strong will it's doable. The doctors would recommend reducing the dosage over time, but I just hard quit. I seem to be over the worst now and my form is much better.

Except for those three days of clicking 12 clicks a day I've clicked 15 clicks a day. from 3-4 cm clicking started to get harder and harder. And at around 4,5 cm it was really hard, but after 5 cm clicking is now very easy again. I've managed clicking fine since start, and I think it is psychological issue for people. Some people spend hours clicking, and yes the first week or two, before I understood how to properly click I could spend a few hours on a leg because I needed to relax my muscles and "find" the clicks. But after those first weeks I click both legs in around 5-10 min with resting and stretching.

At 5cm taller I do have wide legs and duck ass though, but having been working on this the past week with my physiotherapist, so hopefully with streething it won't get worse and maybe even better. Crossing my fingers.

Getting to that magical half way point this Saturday will be a real milestone, and instead of counting down to the halfway point I will count down to the last day of distraction.

My only other complaint is that I have a sore bum after sitting a lot during the day, So I can wait to be more mobile with a straight back so I can stand and walk more.

Stand Taller

[tallertree]

Well congratulations.


As someone who has been in your situation i strongly advise you to stop at 5 cm, especially if workout is an important part of your life. With 5cm you will probably still be able to do normal squats at the gym, if you go beyond 5cm you can forget that, not only can you forget doing squats at the gym but workout your lower body in general(properly).


Just to illustrate how serious i am, if i could go back in time to when i had reached 5cm i would have stopped. For your information i did 9cm and i'm miserable. Dont ruin your life like i did. I would rather go back to my original height than living like this to be completely honest.

[Stand taller]

Thanks!

Never done a squat in my life and not planning on starting now, so not worried about that.

Why do you regret going 9cm? What issues do you have?

[tallertree]

Thanks!

Never done a squat in my life and not planning on starting now, so not worried about that.

Why do you regret going 9cm? What issues do you have?

There are two main problems. The first is my sitting height, i look completely ridiculous when i sit down. Before LL i had height dysphoria, not im worried that people will notice my very strange proportions instead.

The other one is that my agility is basically completely lost. I can run, but not properly. My agility is more similar to someone 50-60 years old than to someone 20 years old.


When you loose your agility you realize that its actually a bigger part of your masculinity than your height. If you go for 11cm as you are planning, the only thing you will get is height - at the expense of proportions and agility and i can safely say that its not wroth it.

If you truly want to reach around 175cm then i recommend to stop lengthening and later in life when you have the money you can lengthen your tibias by about 3cm.

The problem guys do when they do this surgery is that they aim for a magical number. I can already tell in your last post that you are also obsessed with numbers when you mentioned that you had reached 170cm, as if it was some kind of milestone. Being 168cm vs 170 is no different at all, the guy who stopped at 168 is just more healthy since he didn't overlengthen.

[Stand taller]

I understand your issues.

My brother in law is 178cm tall and we have same sitting height. When we sit next to each other our knees are also at the same height meaning that my femur is where I am lacking length. I work in the auto industry and drive many different cars, and an issue I often encounter is that the seat cushions often are too long for me, even in mid-sized cars. This is yet another indication that I indeed have short femurs, and with 5cm longer femurs this issues is less of an issue. So for my profession longer femurs will actually make my work life better in that sense. Lastly I've tons dusins of photoshop mock-ups of my self with 12cm longer femurs and I look completely normal, and much better porportioned than I was at 165 cm or even at 170cm. My wingspan is around 175cm last I checked, so I am fine in that department too.

I do appreciate your two cents and will take into account your advice. No I am not obsessed with numbers, but setting a goal is in my opinion a part of this whole procedure. And reaching 170cm may not be a milestone for you, but for me it absolutely is - even if at the end of the day it is just a number. I want to reach 176cm, but If I have severe issues with IT-band or anything else I will stop earlier.

A few years ago Dr Betz brought on Dr Becker as a partner in the firm. Other than the initial consultation and a few visits after surgery, I have had very little interaction with Dr Betz. Dr Becker has been my main Doctor through this whole thing, and he has been excellent. He has also had close contact with my physiotherapist, so any issues I have with this procedure they have been communicating directly. I have written Dr. Becker a ton and asked all sorts of things, and gotten very good and explanatory answers.

Lastly, we are all different, and different bodies react differently to this procedure. There are tons of stories here where people lengthen 8-10cm without any issues and are almost as athletic as they were before the procedure. And yes there are similar stories like yourself as well. I do understand that workout and body fitness seems a big part of your identity and who you are. And loosing some or a lot of that for a few cm is not worth it, I totally understand that. But you have to remember that we all are different people with different bodies and are doing this for different reasons.

[6CMFemurs]

I will come at this one from the opposite perspective. I really regret only doing 6 CM on my femurs. Within a few years after the surgery, my long femurs became my favorite part of my body. I think no matter how much you lengthen, you can have positive feelings about your proportions. Trust me, you will be the only one who notices, nobody else will even register it.

[thaw1010]

There are two main problems. The first is my sitting height, i look completely ridiculous when i sit down. Before LL i had height dysphoria, not im worried that people will notice my very strange proportions instead.

The other one is that my agility is basically completely lost. I can run, but not properly. My agility is more similar to someone 50-60 years old than to someone 20 years old.


When you loose your agility you realize that its actually a bigger part of your masculinity than your height. If you go for 11cm as you are planning, the only thing you will get is height - at the expense of proportions and agility and i can safely say that its not wroth it.

If you truly want to reach around 175cm then i recommend to stop lengthening and later in life when you have the money you can lengthen your tibias by about 3cm.

The problem guys do when they do this surgery is that they aim for a magical number. I can already tell in your last post that you are also obsessed with numbers when you mentioned that you had reached 170cm, as if it was some kind of milestone. Being 168cm vs 170 is no different at all, the guy who stopped at 168 is just more healthy since he didn't overlengthen.

Could you maybe send a blurred picture of what you look like now? I'm in a similar camp (planning on lengthening more than usual) but obviously, if proportions gets too wacky I'd obviously reconsider.

[Stand taller]

Proportions after lengthening 11 cm

Many of you have been asking and talking about proportions and this is something that will improve a lot after I reach 11 cm of lengthening. I've linked a mock-up of me that I did a long time before surgery with 12 cm longer femurs. I am the one with the blurred face, and my friend is around 180 cm tall. As you can see, our knees and shoulders are almost exactly the same height. If we are nitpicking you can see my torso is shorter, but that may also only be because since I have (I mean I had) short legs I would always buy shirts that where as short as possible so my legs wouldn't look even shorter. Going up one size in shirts may eliminate my "shorter looking torso" completely. Either way, people are different and have different proportions so I am not at all worried. I will look much more normal after reaching 11 cm than I did when I was 165 cm.

When I am sitting my seating height and the top of my knees are at the same height as my brother in law who is 178 cm tall.

Here's the mock-up:
https://ibb.co/kS1KwLN

[Stand taller]

Tibia and femur length

I tried measuring my tibias and femurs now, and not sure I did it 100%. Does anybody have a guide on how to meassure.

Tibias are 37cm
Femurs are 45cm (measured from the middle of my scar on my hip - which where the nail went in. So maybe I should meassure a little less lenght here)

I've read that normal tibia to femur ratio ranges from 0,83 - 0,77. And now if my measurements are correct I am at 0,82. After reaching I should be at around 0,74 which is a little outside the normal range, but still fine.

But....

I am guessing I meassured my femur to long and in reality the end results will more like

Tibia 37cm
Femur 48cm
Ratio 0,77

Let me know how to measure properly!

[randy]

Looks pretty good. You can also the same analysis while sitting on a chair seen from the side. That would reveal both the  joints: hip, knee

Hey, unrelated question :- do you know if Betz is training a junior surgeon as a successor? He is 72 or more and seems to have built a great setup, so I was wondering what lies in the next decade or two for Betz institute.

[Stand taller]

Yeah, I am happy with the proportions.

He is at least training one successor, and that is Dr Becker (mid 40s) in Freiburg. I believe Dr Becker has been working with Dr.Betz for around three years. I think the plan is to move the clinic to Freiburg within a few years. Dr Becker has been my main doctor though this procedure and If am not mistaken my surgery was done by him with Dr Betz supervising.

[AimHigh]

yes, even in my 50's i regretted losing my agility and simple ability so squat and lift (eg picking up a three year old without struggling)

[randy]

Hi Stand Taller
I take it you do not speak or read German. Before the surgery were you asked to sign paper work written in German to sign? How did you go about it if you did not understand what was written?

[Limbfan2020]

Hi Stand taller,

do you know how many LL surgeries Dr. Axel Becker has already performed?

[Stand taller]

Hi Stand Taller
I take it you do not speak or read German. Before the surgery were you asked to sign paper work written in German to sign? How did you go about it if you did not understand what was written?

I speak a little and can read a fair bit of German. When in hospital I basically communicated in German with most of the staff, even though most spoke English.

That being said, all the documents with Dr Betz where in English and he walked me through it all step by step. And If I had any questions he explain it in detail. I felt that the paper work was taken very serious and was gone through thorough.

[Stand taller]

Hi Stand taller,

do you know how many LL surgeries Dr. Axel Becker has already performed?

Not sure how many he's done, but I think he told me that he had been under training with Dr Betz for the last three years.

BTW.. I will write an update very soon, just passed the 7cm mark and even though I still have 4cm to go I can see the light at the end of the tunnel!

[Stand taller]

Day 93

Almost a month since I've written an update - and let's start with the bad.

In my last update I had just stopped taking Tramadol, and instead of having a plan with my doctor where I would take less and less over time - I just decided on my own to stop cold turkey. And I can sincerely say, do not stop taking Tramadol cold turkey! I had basically all the withdrawal symptoms you can have, and it was hard as fk! The worst was over after about two weeks, but those two weeks are some of the toughest two weeks of my life. Luckily I did not experience any pain, but my sleep went from pretty good to awful. The worst nights I would sleep 20 minutes at a time, throughout the whole night! Not only where the days long, but the nights where even longer.

At this time with all the withdrawal symptoms etc I was seriously considering stopping lengthening and calling it quits every day for almost two weeks. I am glad I stuck through though, because I am feeling much much better now! My sleeping isn't good, but is still much improved. I sleep around 1-1,5 hours at a time though the night, but i read that quitting Tramadol cold turkey messed with your sleep for several month after quitting it. So hopefully my sleep will slowly keep improving every night.

Pain has been almost non-existent, just some small pain here and there - not much to complain about. My duckass and wide-legs have improved some, but not enough according to Dr Becker. And also having hip swing in my gait, Dr Becker has to told me to reduced to 12 clicks per day, down from 15. He's also told me to focus more on stretching the hip flexors, and I feel like things have improved in just a few days. Hopefully Things will continue to improve.

I've now reached 7cm and I now stand at 172cm tall, and I feel tall around people who are at my old height now. I have two sisters who are a 166cm and 167cm tall, and there is a clear difference in our height - and knowing I was shorter than them that is such a weird and special feeling. And this is still wide duckass and wide-legs, so in reality I am not actually 172cm yet.

I also had a very funny experience with a female friend who is 169cm tall. I rang her bell, and when she opened the door she just looked up at me shocked, confused and stuttered "eeehh what?? ehhhh what??? ehhh hooww??" And I just replied "let me in and I'll explain". My new height was the first thing she noticed.

I've told most of my family and friends about my surgery, which has been a huge deal for moral support and my state of mind. Everybody has been supportive, even though some have been shocked and some have even said that they think it is outright cool that I've done this. The support has been immensive.

At around 6cm I took X-rays and it all looks tip top, with healthy callus formation.

My moral is up and down from day to day and to be honest I am really looking forward to the day I stop clicking and I can start actual rehabilitation. It's three months since my surgery and it feels like I've been doing this for a while now, and I am kind of sick of stretching and hour+ every single day and not being able to walk normal and just feeling exhausted going shopping for groceries.

Good news is that I am done clicking in 7,5 weeks and in the big picture, that really isn't that long. But for anybody considering going 11cm like me, it really is a loooooong distraction period of almost five months. And there is no way around that five month walking on crutches and not being mobile is a looooong time. So it does require you to be strong as fk mentally, because you will hit the wall like me. And it will require strength to push though that or those walls.

Even though I've had a relatively easy time lengthening and clicking has been a piece of cake (I do both legs in around 60-90 seconds without any pain) this is still by far the hardest thing I've ever done in my life! And I still have 7,5 week of lengthening and I hope I can walk relatively normal 1-3 months post clicking - so still a long time before I am "normal"

[thankscience]

Congrats on your gains so far!

Do you mind sharing your recent x-rays here?

[randy]

I speak a little and can read a fair bit of German. When in hospital I basically communicated in German with most of the staff, even though most spoke English.

That being said, all the documents with Dr Betz where in English and he walked me through it all step by step. And If I had any questions he explain it in detail. I felt that the paper work was taken very serious and was gone through thorough.

Hey Stand taller

thank you for the response. congrats on reaching 7cm. Thats a great gain. Opiods are very addictive, how much was your average dosage all these days before stopping? Are you still taking Xarelto and do you plan to take it till full amount of distraction?

I have some questions if you don't mind

1) I am a bit worried about signing patient consent forms which might allow them to use your photos for advertising and so on. I had thought that as a rule, all legal documents in Germany must be in German. You say it was in English which is great. Are there 2 sets of documents you must sign? One during patient registration before consultation where you might have to read where your photos and information get shared. One before surgery stating the risks involved and that you agree there is no liability on the doctors. Is that it?

2) I am quite confused about where Betz institute currently is, where people are getting their consultations, surgery and follow-up check ups. Their website lists St ingbert as the location for consultations and follow-ups and Kreikrankenhaus St. Ingbert as the surgery location. On google maps Betz institute is in Neunkirchen. Someone posted links to DrBecker's cosmetic surgery practice in Freiburg.  Can you choose among multiple options?

3) I speak no German and am a bit concerned on how to travel around within Germany especially since Betz works out of smaller towns (not Berlin/Munich) without uber. If you find some time can you please elaborate on how you reached the place, traveled around (from airport to consultation, where did you stay 2 weeks in Freiburg, hotel to hospital, PT and so on).

Thank you Stand taller. Hope the next 4cm are easy.

[Stand taller]

Hey Stand taller

thank you for the response. congrats on reaching 7cm. Thats a great gain. Opiods are very addictive, how much was your average dosage all these days before stopping? Are you still taking Xarelto and do you plan to take it till full amount of distraction?

I have some questions if you don't mind

1) I am a bit worried about signing patient consent forms which might allow them to use your photos for advertising and so on. I had thought that as a rule, all legal documents in Germany must be in German. You say it was in English which is great. Are there 2 sets of documents you must sign? One during patient registration before consultation where you might have to read where your photos and information get shared. One before surgery stating the risks involved and that you agree there is no liability on the doctors. Is that it?

2) I am quite confused about where Betz institute currently is, where people are getting their consultations, surgery and follow-up check ups. Their website lists St ingbert as the location for consultations and follow-ups and Kreikrankenhaus St. Ingbert as the surgery location. On google maps Betz institute is in Neunkirchen. Someone posted links to DrBecker's cosmetic surgery practice in Freiburg.  Can you choose among multiple options?

3) I speak no German and am a bit concerned on how to travel around within Germany especially since Betz works out of smaller towns (not Berlin/Munich) without uber. If you find some time can you please elaborate on how you reached the place, traveled around (from airport to consultation, where did you stay 2 weeks in Freiburg, hotel to hospital, PT and so on).

Thank you Stand taller. Hope the next 4cm are easy.

Thanks a lot! 7cm really is a massive difference, and I also hope the next 4cm are fast and easy. I'll try answer you questions:

1) Germany has pretty strong privacy laws and even stronger culture, so I wouldn't worry about this. To be honest, I don't remember how many sets I signed since I am in my home town now in easter. Can check later next week. I do remember signing something stating that the surgery is not for medical reasons but for cosmetic reasons. Basically signing that I am healthy.

2) Their institute is in St. Ingbert, and surgery has also been at a privat hospital there. But Dr Betz told me that the hospital they usually used went bankrupt during Covid, so they are now using different hospitals. I had my surgery at Praxisklinik 2000 Orthopädie in Freiburg, and I was the second patient to stay here. Because I was in Freiburg most of my followup was with Dr Becker.

Dr Becker is Dr Betz predecessor and as I understood the plan is to move Betz Institute to Freiburg within a few years. Dr Becker has his clinic in Freiburg

3) Most people in Germany understand and speak some english, so getting by shouldn't be very hard. I flew to Frankfurt and Betz will arrange a shuttle if you want to your hotel in Freiburg. I stayed at a hotel in the city centre, and was picked up by Dr Becker the day of surgery. I spent the first week in the hospital and the second week in flat provided by Betz in the floor underneath Dr Beckers clinic. This was a massive 150 square meters luxury flat. And having Dr Becker close by was very comforting. I flew out of Zurich and Dr Becker arranged a shuttle to the airport. Both Dr Betz and Dr Becker where very helpful and will arrange everything.

 

[Stand taller]

Day 116

I've now reached 8,3cm and stand at 173,5cm.... well that would be if I could stand straight. Due to duckass I am not able to stand straight. Clicking has been reduced to 10 clicks per day courtesy of Dr Becker and I have regained more function as a result, but my duckass only seems to be marginally improved. In the first time in what seems like months I can move around short distances in my flat without crutches. For most of the lengthening time I've only been able to move around with crutches due to stiffness, tightness and duckass.

After upping my stretching game to around 1,5 hours a day and doing fysio three times a week stiffness and tightness seem to be improving little by little each day, and even duckass seem to be progressing ever so slightly. A few days ago I was actually able to go shopping while pushing a shopping cart all by myself through the whole grocery store. This is something I've not been able to do in months, so I am optimistic about my form improving a little bit every day moving forward.

If I am able to speed up clicking to 15 a day next week I will hit my height goal on June 15th (in 37 days), but If I have to stay at 10 clicks a day throughout the remaining 2,7cm I will be done on June 30th (in 52 days). Either way, the end is getting close!

The past week I've been sleeping much better, so instead of waking up ever 1-1,5 hours, I now only wake up 2-3 times during an 8 hour sleep - which what I usually did before the surgery - so yeah. Sleep is back to normal!

My energy levels are also at its highest since the surgery, so I feel that I am slowly getting back to the old me - which is a good feeling.

It's been a long process and there is still 37 - 52 days to go -  though I really hope it is the former. I can't wait till I'm done clicking so I can finally start to actually rehabilitate.

[RolexDraem]

betzinstitute fked up my legs, and I am going to file a Class-Action Lawsuit against them

I am currently gathering other patients who have severe problems with their surgery with Betz, please message me to discuss further and get our justice!!!

[thankscience]

@Stand taller how are you finding your proportions?

[Stand taller]

My proportions are great, and have never been better! I've written about this more in detail earlier here.

[Stand taller]

Day 158 - Lengthening done and I've reached 177cm!

Been a while since I've written here, but finally guys I'm done lengthening and I can now focus on recovering. First let's start with the positives, and that is I've surpassed my original goal of 11cm lengthening and reaching 176cm. I've actually lengthened  11,5cm and reached 177cm which insane! I can officially say that I am not short anymore, and average height in most western countries. Even in the tallest countries I'm just below average, which is more than good enough!

Tomorrow I will wake up and not ever have to do another click, wow! 158 days of lengthening has been an insane amount of time and at times it felt like forever. My life the last five months has basically been centered around lengthening. It has been a real test of will power and the self control.

Like so many others here the last cm was very hard, and around 14 days ago I actually decided to stop lengthening at 176cm. I had a few bad nights of sleep and some really bad pain in my knees and thighs. On top of that I was just feeling overall tired after being in this process for five months. I can not emphasize enough how long of a process this really is (and I'm far from done). But after talking to friends, family, my physiotherapist and Dr Becker I decided to go the last cm to reach 177cm. And I am happy that I've gotten the maximum out of the Betz Bone. Initially Dr Betz wanted me to only do 11cm, but would allow an extra 0,5cm if everything was looking good at the end. So I'm happy lengthening as much as possible, and will never feel any regret for not doing the maximum.

But, it's not all good because I still have quite pronounced duckass. After slowing down to 10 clicks a day and doing physio three times a week my duckass was slowly improving. But around a month ago I felt I just wanted to reach my goal as fast as possible so I could start rehabilitating as fast as possible. I've felt so sick at tired if this process so many times during distraction that at some point I just wanted to get on with it and end it sooner than later. I then decided to do 15 clicks a day and up my stretching from around an hour a day to around 2,5 hours a day. What this did was just keep my duck ass in check. This does mean that I am still dependent on crutches to walk and move about.

And this also means that I am not standing straight and I don't actually stand at 177cm tall. So I still don't know how it feels to be this height. I'm guessing I am around 170-171cm tall now. But on physio last Friday we where able to flatten my duckass quite a bit and I must have gained around 2-3 cm that day. But because I clicked for few more days that gain was lost. So I am hoping now that I am done clicking I can make progress quickly. It may take two weeks for my duckass to resolve, but more likely 4-6 weeks, or it could even take 8 weeks. Time will tell. But It feels so good to know that I can actually start to make some progress with my physio and stretching and not just keeping it in check.

Dr Becker reckons it will take 4 weeks to resolve my duckass ass and another 4 weeks before I can walk quite normally without crushes, so crossing my fingers.

Either way I'm happy I did the maximum lengthening and will keep you guys updated on how recovery goes!

[thankscience]

Congrats on getting nearly 12cm! Wow, what an effort 

When did you start slowing down to only 10 clicks a day?

[ilovescience]

Congratulations. 177cm is tall.