Topic: Full weight bearing nails 2021 (Read 1403 times)

PositiveVibes · « **on:** November 28, 2021, 12:21:12 PM »

Hello guys,

I am new in the forum and starting to be interested in LL techniques as I would like to grow a few cms (7-8) one day to combat my height disforia.

I know STRYDE nail has been recalled by nuvasive since Feb 2021 and I thought this was the most suitable option in the market due to its full weight bearing capacity and technology.

Do you know any other full weight bearing techniques used currently that allow you to stand up almost unaided sometimes during the lenghtning process? Let’s say since month 1-2 after surgery...

I have heard about PRECICE 2 or Fitbone but these aren’t full weight bearing... how about Guichet Nail?

Are there any other techniques that I should consider?

Many thanks! I hope to hear from you guys!

A.

zaozari · « **Reply #1 on:** November 29, 2021, 11:31:50 AM »

G-nail is indeed full weight bearing (Dr Giotikas and Dr Guichet)

Classic or adapted Ilizarov is also, altough more advisable only in the consolidating phase (only crutches but not wheelchair before that). Nevertheless in this case you need to be a super hero to tolerate it the femurs (much easier in tibias).
In tibias Ilizarov remains the saffest and clinically best option for most experienced doctors (it can retract if the bone is not forming or consolidating sufficiently ( G-nail CANNOT) , it can correct possible curvatures along the lenghtening, it has much less risk of thrombosis, etc). You have to keep pins clean, it's not as practical and "elegant" as other methods and it's more difficult for example to find a sleeping position and to do more varied physiotherapy (but this matters less because you can do the essential exercise anyway: walk and bike).

There are more weight bearing but ONLY in the consolidating phase and with potential more risks specially if not done by a top doctor (not necessarily the most famous). These methods include for example LON (but in this case for example there is a huge loss of blood and may cause problems in the knees).

PositiveVibes · « **Reply #2 on:** December 08, 2021, 01:35:54 PM »

Hi, i really apprecistr your answer.

In my opinion internal rods seem to be less dangerous, so I think i am going to focus my research on that.

So nowadays, with the stryde recall, the only full weight bearing internal nail available is G-nail?

Thanks and regards

Dexter5729 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 08, 2021, 03:49:28 PM »

Quote from: PositiveVibes on November 28, 2021, 12:21:12 PM

for full weight bearing i đid LON and it was perfectly fine, no big issue at all. For tibias, LON is a good idea at least in my opinion. I gained 8cm

ReadRothbard · « **Reply #4 on:** December 08, 2021, 08:13:22 PM »

The Guichet nail is weight-bearing, as Dexter said; if you're interested in weight-bearing primarily, then I heavily recommend going with Dr. Guichet. He's arguably the second best leg lengthening doctor alive today.

Masteryourlife · « **Reply #5 on:** December 08, 2021, 10:44:51 PM »

Quote from: ReadRothbard on December 08, 2021, 08:13:22 PM

You missing on the fact a guy died under him and he crippled a girl .
Please do not say such things with hin having such bad cases on his track record .
Everyone's free to pick the surgeon they desire but they need to be aware of some things

ReadRothbard · « **Reply #6 on:** December 08, 2021, 11:28:49 PM »

Guichet has performed thousands of surgeries; it's not a surprise that, unfortunately, at least one patient would die. However, that patient also had other problems that contributed to his situation.

Masteryourlife · « **Reply #7 on:** December 08, 2021, 11:32:16 PM »

Quote from: ReadRothbard on December 08, 2021, 11:28:49 PM

But u don't cripple someone randomly!

ReadRothbard · « **Reply #8 on:** December 08, 2021, 11:54:48 PM »

Quote from: Masteryourlife on December 08, 2021, 11:32:16 PM

Who was the person crippled?

Masteryourlife · « **Reply #9 on:** December 09, 2021, 12:57:51 AM »

Quote from: ReadRothbard on December 08, 2021, 11:54:48 PM

A member of the forum called unicorn .
You can search it up but the real topic has been deleted under suggestion of her lawyers due to a sue ongoing. U can probably still find something so please catch up with the new standards/doctors as I read that u left the forum for a while and just came back .
It might help you as well to make a better decision

ReadRothbard · « **Reply #10 on:** December 09, 2021, 01:37:47 AM »

Quote from: Masteryourlife on December 09, 2021, 12:57:51 AM

I’ll take a look. I’ve been absent from the forums for over half a decade, so it wouldn’t surprise me if I missed something. On a side note, what do you think of Dr. Leonid Solomin? I haven’t seen any bad diaries from him, but maybe you know something. I was thinking of doing 6.5-7 cm on my tibias LON with him.

Masteryourlife · « **Reply #11 on:** December 09, 2021, 02:01:05 AM »

Quote from: ReadRothbard on December 09, 2021, 01:37:47 AM

I can't help you in this regard because I would not go to russia to get this done .
Paley,Rozbruch,Lee are the only one who I would let make this procedure on me .
Maybe Assayag but he lacks in experience compared to the ones mentioned up here .
I 'am trying to get infos about Peter Thaller as he is in Europe (where I live) and he is very respected by dr.Lee (my first actuall choiche) and had hold many lectures etc (big plus is that he does not advertise CLL) .
They are the only ones I suggest you to get this surgery done from .
If you want LON tibia dr.Lee is probably the best among all as he is Korean and he does a ton of LON tibias (because of asians femur/tibia proportions) .

AAlso, I don't know where that 6.5/7cm came out from for tibia lenghtening but 5cm is the max for the majority of respected doctors for tibia,
I would not gamble with 5+ .
Go with femurs for more 5+ (internals because externals are a nono for femurs).
You kept doing fine 5 years without the procedure , if money is the problem get LON tibia with Lee for a safer amount or save up for internal Femur (precice not albizzas revisitations) .

cyborg4life · « **Reply #12 on:** December 09, 2021, 03:29:14 AM »

Hmm interesting. I just got an email today from Dr. Guichet's clinic willing to do an interview. I reached out a few times in the past but no luck. But I guess the person who commented about it recently on a video got in touch for me. So question is...anyone interested in a Dr. Guichet interview?

Thorfinnn · « **Reply #13 on:** December 09, 2021, 04:58:02 AM »

Quote from: cyborg4life on December 09, 2021, 03:29:14 AM

Yeah why not!

Unknown · « **Reply #14 on:** December 09, 2021, 05:03:19 AM »

Quote from: cyborg4life on December 09, 2021, 03:29:14 AM

Hi Victor, could you do an update video with Dr Lee? He doesnt seem to be responsive to emails these days.

Super-JR · « **Reply #15 on:** December 09, 2021, 09:08:06 AM »

Quote from: cyborg4life on December 09, 2021, 03:29:14 AM

That would be interesting.

canterk · « **Reply #16 on:** December 09, 2021, 10:01:30 AM »

Quote from: cyborg4life on December 09, 2021, 03:29:14 AM

Yes, why not? The more info we have on doctors who do CLL, the better. Thank you for doing these interviews.

Masteryourlife · « **Reply #17 on:** December 09, 2021, 12:16:17 PM »

Quote from: cyborg4life on December 09, 2021, 03:29:14 AM

Please not !!!!!
Your channel should be about "world renowned" orthopedic surgeons not about the ones who responds to you .
A guy died under him !
We don't know certainly why but we know that this doctor gave aspirins to a 40yo female with a non-reversable nail to avoid "pre-consolidation" and lengthened her at 1.25mm a day .
Result ? After many years she still can't stand up and another profile in here asked for people to contact him privately as he was in a lawsuit with guichet as well .

He popped out because he saw that after the death of giotikas people might think that the guys death with him was "random" too as many states here .
Why he did not respond earlier ?
He had years to do so but just right after this unfortunate case .
I don't care what some people willing to risk their legs says , you Vic brought to the channel also dr.Betz who is such an unethical doctor and you introduce them all as best of best .
Try to stay on the ethical side of it and not to be just "informative" putting out there any surgeon because you automatically promote them !
If sarin respond to you ,will u interview him ?
Like..what?!
Butchers should be avoided at all cost and former patients need some respect for what happened to them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Period .
That 's my opinion , everyone can disagree but for what is worth it, if you bring to the channel such an unethical one , I see no longer a reasons to follow your channel .
But here many wants the interview apparently so my 1 sub does not make a difference regardless ,but for perspective patients you should avoid those doctors !!!!!!!!!

Limbfan2020 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 09, 2021, 12:44:04 PM »

Quote from: cyborg4life on December 09, 2021, 03:29:14 AM

Yes, please do an interview with Dr. Guichet! He has the right to speak about his procedure and protocols. Maybe we'll find out what went wrong with the indian guy who suffered from PE and died.

Highest · « **Reply #19 on:** December 09, 2021, 01:16:18 PM »

Quote from: cyborg4life on December 09, 2021, 03:29:14 AM

Yes please ask him about his protocol to avoid blood clots would be interested to know as it appears most likely cause of LL deaths and the issue of runaway lengthening that has occured with the G Nail.

Limbfan2020 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 09, 2021, 01:44:45 PM »

Quote from: cyborg4life on December 09, 2021, 03:29:14 AM

Could you please ask him (or any upcoming LL doc in your interviews), if it makes sense to wear a smart watch (like Apple Watch Series 6) after the surgery to monitor blood oxygen in order to detect a potential pulmonary embolism?

ReadRothbard · « **Reply #21 on:** December 09, 2021, 02:31:47 PM »

Quote from: cyborg4life on December 09, 2021, 03:29:14 AM

Yes, I'd like to hear his explanation regarding unicorn and Yush Gupta, the patient of his who died of an embolism.

PositiveVibes · « **Reply #22 on:** December 14, 2021, 12:37:28 AM »

Sure man!!

Really appreciate your reply to my post as I am a big fan of your youtube channel.

It would be awesome to have such an interview, not only to know about the procedure but also what is comming next for LL in the future. Maybe he plans to expand or commercialize the nail in more markets (as far as i am concerned it is also being used by Dr. Giotikas in Greece).

By the way guys, I have a question regarding the G-nail, I read that on the day of the operation, you become automatically 1cm taller. Does this makes the Guitchet nail the fastest to achive the desired height in the market nowadays?

Thanks for your comments!

A.

PositiveVibes · « **Reply #23 on:** December 18, 2021, 10:27:51 AM »

I have a question regarding the G-nail. I read that on the day of the operation, you become automatically 1cm taller.

Does this makes the Guitchet nail the fastest to achive the desired height in the market nowadays? Let’s say I would like to grow 8cm aprox, will it be even faster than with stryde method...?

Thanks a lot guys!

Masteryourlife · « **Reply #24 on:** December 18, 2021, 11:40:28 AM »

Quote from: PositiveVibes on December 18, 2021, 10:27:51 AM

Giotikas explained in the latest video with C4L why that happens (I believe he does less then 0.5,can't remember but check that video out) .
Logically yes it will take less but you can lengthen 2mm a day with stryde and get to 8 cm faster too , but it will damage you .
I think due to the mechanics of the nail that is how you have to operate with it but Logically again , your soft tissues will not be thankfull.

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