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[HeightGain]

I know a few short very successful, rich men who are considered very attractive. Women say they are attractive but they always say they are tiny. I also work with very successful, rich, average or a bit better than average looking tall men, over 190cm. When the two groups work together, women always go for the tall men and pay them much more attention.

Masculinity really matters to women

[Antonio111111]

I know a few short very successful, rich men who are considered very attractive. Women say they are attractive but they always say they are tiny. I also work with very successful, rich, average or a bit better than average looking tall men, over 190cm. When the two groups work together, women always go for the tall men and pay them much more attention.

Masculinity really matters to women

How tall are those short men you mentioned?

[HeightGain]

170 or less

[Antonio111111]

170 or less

At what level is their face looks? Top level like Brad Pitt, George clooney, Chris hemsworth, model level?

[Exxon]

I'm not against LL. It's great. But just be realistic about it. Gaining 8 cm will not automatically serve you brand new women every week

It'll just make a good first impression. Then you go from there. It'll open more doors for sure. But you still have to show other stuff when you past that entrance door.

Be past a decent height like 180cm and you'll be OK. Don't need to be 195cm etc.

If you are short like 160-170cm short then gaining women will be exponentially more after a 8cm lengthening. I'm not talking about 173cm onwards, it will hardly do much

[CivilServant]

Most of women in clubs wear 12cm heels and many of them even 15cm.
A 12cm heel gives a woman who knows to really walk on it more than 8cm and a 15cm heel more than 10cm real height.
So no, most of them obtain much more than 5cm. Almost that height I obtain personally when I wear my almost 3cm insole to my shoes who normally have about 2-2.5cm height on their own.

But what I wanted to say is that even an 1.75 man with 3cm added height from shoes (so a total 1.78) is not tall next to women in clubs due to their heels so an 1.65 man, even with the best face in the world, is totally.invisible there.

Never gonna be true bro LOL.
12cm heels will destory your feet and I think no women can withstand such pains. On market, most of heels can only obtain women 5cm growths although several specially tailored heels can really guarantee around 10cm growths, rarely 20cm growths(although I dunno if those can really guarantee such growths) but they are peculiar enough so I don't figure out it can occur to random not very short women to wear them on.

You can taste the pains through this vid:
https://haokan.baidu.com/v?pd=wisenatural&vid=9297317734038359703

[Medium Drink Of Water]

They don't wear those super high painful heels all the time.  It's just for a few hours when they want to go out and look fabulous, and they want a man who's still just barely taller than them when they do.

[TakingAction]

They don't wear those super high painful heels all the time.  It's just for a few hours when they want to go out and look fabulous, and they want a man who's still just barely taller than them when they do.

Studies show that women don’t just want men taller than them in heels but taller than the average men who can be more than just “barely” taller than women in heels.

[pandemic_exploiter]

Good luck on your surgery tomorrow TakingAction! Big life event for sure. You'll be my height

[Arcon]

But there are pretty women and nice girls who are not tall, why not focusing on them? There will always be women "out of our league" anyway, no matter how tall we are or going to be.

[Unknown]

But there are pretty women and nice girls who are not tall, why not focusing on them? There will always be women "out of our league" anyway, no matter how tall we are or going to be.

Usually shorter girls like taller guys even more, being tall opens up your options more. All things equal, a 5'10 guy would be more likely to be considered attractive to a girl than a 5'5 guy.

[TakingAction]

Thank you!!!

[zaozari]

But at the end of the day, you will live and love just ONE. Is it worth just to open up options in sex temporarily? By the way, women in the UK, which has a slightly higher height average than the US, prefer men with 5"8.

[TakingAction]

Having a 5'8 height would be nice

[Sambollio]

Usually shorter girls like taller guys even more, being tall opens up your options more. All things equal, a 5'10 guy would be more likely to be considered attractive to a girl than a 5'5 guy.

That’s the crazy thing I’ve noticed, the I’m 5’9” and the women who are totally fine with my height when dating have been 5’8, 5’9” and 5’10”. I’ve personally noticed that women who are on the short to average range are the ones who are obsessed with height.

[TakingAction]

That’s the crazy thing I’ve noticed, the I’m 5’9” and the women who are totally fine with my height when dating have been 5’8, 5’9” and 5’10”. I’ve personally noticed that women who are on the short to average range are the ones who are obsessed with height.

Shorter ladies always want something they don’t have: taller height

[Itsme]

Studies show that women don’t just want men taller than them in heels but taller than the average men who can be more than just “barely” taller than women in heels.

"Studies show" there is a study for everything someone wants to hear. Most "studies" mean jack
https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/dating/most-attractive-height-for-man-woman-a3846246.html

[Antonio111111]

There is so much copium in the comments. Women care a lot about height, it’s one of the most attractive aspects of a mans physique. Personality matters but a very large amount of women just won’t date a man who’s not “X “ height . If you are 5’6 your dating options will be substantially reduced.

Nope not copium. Let me show facts to all readers here.

Check out this 5 foot 6 handsome fit guy on tiktok.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSeKCAJuQ/
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSeKC2nhW/
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSeKCBJDu/


Look at the comments from women. All drooling. Check out all his videos. Women going nuts. He can choose so many women.

Do they care of his height? Nah. His face and body is THAT good that's why i said in previous huge post, that me and my bro both got heaps of girls regardless of our 5 foot 6 height. See facts as they are guys. Don't glamorise height as the only factor, loook at other factors about yourself as well. How handsome are u? How fit is your body?

I'll resay it. A 6 foot 2 lanky or fat guy with bad face will lose to 5 foot 10 Brad Pitt. That guy would even lose to 5 foot 7 Zac efron.

I backed up my claims with facts.

[Medium Drink Of Water]

Not clicking on links to that Chinese spyware platform.

[CivilServant]

Not clicking on links to that Chinese spyware platform.

If 5'7 is converted as 170-172cm in Metric System then his height is just so-so, not that short at least he is not shorter than the majority of China's youngsters by very much.
If you are only 5'2-5'3 or even under it then it's another story.

[Antonio111111]

If 5'7 is converted as 170-172cm in Metric System then his height is just so-so, not that short at least he is not shorter than the majority of China's youngsters by very much.
If you are only 5'2-5'3 or even under it then it's another story.

That tiktok guy is 5 foot 6 not 5 foot 7..so less then 170cm. Around 167cm.

And he is not chinese. Is Half Italian half Arab.

There are numerous white women swooning over him in comments. So western women who are taller now days..

My point was, he is 5 foot 6 and still has no shortage of women due to his face and fit body. Showing proof to counter what others are saying that 5 foot 6 and below is hopeless for women regardless of face.

[ilovescience]

That tiktok guy is 5 foot 6 not 5 foot 7..so less then 170cm. Around 167cm.

And he is not chinese. Is Half Italian half Arab.

There are numerous white women swooning over him in comments. So western women who are taller now days..

My point was, he is 5 foot 6 and still has no shortage of women due to his face and fit body. Showing proof to counter what others are saying that 5 foot 6 and below is hopeless for women regardless of face.

He attracted a lot of women at the height of 167cm?! Maybe 167 isn't short just below the average by Western standard?

[Antonio111111]

He attracted a lot of women at the height of 167cm?! Maybe 167 isn't short just below the average by Western standard?

Because he has handsome face and great body. That's why. Don't just base everything on height. If he was 5 10 yes that'll be even better for him. But women are already so attracted due to his face and body. Height alone isn't the factor to getting women

[CivilServant]

That tiktok guy is 5 foot 6 not 5 foot 7..so less then 170cm. Around 167cm.

And he is not chinese. Is Half Italian half Arab.

There are numerous white women swooning over him in comments. So western women who are taller now days..

My point was, he is 5 foot 6 and still has no shortage of women due to his face and fit body. Showing proof to counter what others are saying that 5 foot 6 and below is hopeless for women regardless of face.

Sorry, but again, if there were two 'buttons' for me to choose:under 170cm with a healthy body and around 188-190cm with Ebola or Quadriplegia, I will never hesitate to choose the latter.

[Antonio111111]

Sorry, but again, if there were two 'buttons' for me to choose:under 170cm with a healthy body and around 188-190cm with Ebola or Quadriplegia, I will never hesitate to choose the latter.

Are you a woman? Going by your profile symbol, your a male. So you think women should do is not what they actually do.

Yes there are the small percentage of  women who would not choose that guy and go for some 6 ft 4 tall ebola looking guy. But looking at percentages, more women would go for him than that 6 ft 4 Ebola looking guy.

Just look at the amount of women swooning after that 5ft 6 guy. It's an eye opener to facts.

Do u really think a 6 foot 4 Ebola guy can beat Brad Pitt in terms of getting women? Answer me that

[Highest]

Because he has handsome face and great body. That's why. Don't just base everything on height. If he was 5 10 yes that'll be even better for him. But women are already so attracted due to his face and body. Height alone isn't the factor to getting women

Tiktok guy you posted looks like conventional handsome white guy so already has 2 big positives going for him and his height isn't a deal breaker so of course he is popular. If he was taller it would obviously be a bonus for him.

[Highest]

Sorry, but again, if there were two 'buttons' for me to choose:under 170cm with a healthy body and around 188-190cm with Ebola or Quadriplegia, I will never hesitate to choose the latter.

If you had Quadriplegia you would be in a wheelchair.

[zaozari]

Sorry, but again, if there were two 'buttons' for me to choose:under 170cm with a healthy body and around 188-190cm with Ebola or Quadriplegia, I will never hesitate to choose the latter.

You're sick. I don't even know if LL can help your distorted mind. With Ebola you would die in less than a week. Just do LL AND counselling or kill yourself within a week and stop infecting the forum.

[zaozari]

Sorry, but again, if there were two 'buttons' for me to choose:under 170cm with a healthy body and around 188-190cm with Ebola or Quadriplegia, I will never hesitate to choose the latter.

MOD, do you think this systematic posting is constructive, minimally racional and respectful for guys shorter than 170cm specially extremely short like me and for people suffering from the several diseases he constantly mentions SYSTEMATICALLY in the majority of topics over the whole forum?
Does this have place in the forum, does it help its purpose and users, does this add something to discussion or even is it a means of questioning and getting legitimate information?

[ilovescience]

Because he has handsome face and great body. That's why. Don't just base everything on height. If he was 5 10 yes that'll be even better for him. But women are already so attracted due to his face and body. Height alone isn't the factor to getting women

I understood, but I don't base it on height. I was just a bit curious about the standard of height after reading articles that men below 170 is considered short and may have difficulty to socialize, which I don't agree. I met a man around 166-168, he told me he is too short by Western standard, which I think may not be the case, so I was just curious if that height is considered short by Western standard. Sorry my English isn't too good that may be hard to understand sometimes.

[Medium Drink Of Water]

Sorry, but again, if there were two 'buttons' for me to choose:under 170cm with a healthy body and around 188-190cm with Ebola or Quadriplegia, I will never hesitate to choose the latter.

The Ebola patient will be lying in a bed, only a few inches tall.  The quadriplegic would be in a wheelchair, only a few feet tall.  Their "natural" heights don't give them height.  Please explain why you'd want to be so much shorter than the 170 cm guy.