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[programdude]

I've posted before, but now I have pretty much definitively decided this needs to happen this summer. I get my invisalign in shortly, and not long after I'd like to be doing my surgery. Originally I was considering bejing for tibia's, but decided that I'd rather go with internal femurs and lengthen approx 3 inches with a reputable doctor as I understand recovery is faster, scarring is minimal, and a larger gain generally achievable(not to mention aesthetically I want longer strides).
Therefore I am stuck deciding between Dr. Paley or Dr. Guichet, the former of which because he has done so many operations and is US based(which could potentially involve savings with PT, x rays, and meds), and the latter mainly because of shy shy's amazing recovery after a very similar gain to what I am shooting for.

My plan would be to do lengthening asap(having to probably travel back once to US from wherever to get my new invisalign trays which I dont think I can work around, lengthen for the three months, then use a fourth month away from my roomates/life at home to start walking properly to leave some ambiguity to my operation(how realistic is pulling that off?), then I would dedicate my time predominantly to recovery and getting back in the gym and adding mass to my new frame.

Down the road, pending on my happiness and recovery post LL I would consider shooting for another 2 inches on tibs to reach 6 1.

How realistic is this do you guys think? And which of the dr.'s do you think I should go with in my case.

[YellowSpike]

I've posted before, but now I have pretty much definitively decided this needs to happen this summer. I get my invisalign in shortly, and not long after I'd like to be doing my surgery. Originally I was considering bejing for tibia's, but decided that I'd rather go with internal femurs and lengthen approx 3 inches with a reputable doctor as I understand recovery is faster, scarring is minimal, and a larger gain generally achievable(not to mention aesthetically I want longer strides).
Therefore I am stuck deciding between Dr. Paley or Dr. Guichet, the former of which because he has done so many operations and is US based(which could potentially involve savings with PT, x rays, and meds), and the latter mainly because of shy shy's amazing recovery after a very similar gain to what I am shooting for.

My plan would be to do lengthening asap(having to probably travel back once to US from wherever to get my new invisalign trays which I dont think I can work around, lengthen for the three months, then use a fourth month away from my roomates/life at home to start walking properly to leave some ambiguity to my operation(how realistic is pulling that off?), then I would dedicate my time predominantly to recovery and getting back in the gym and adding mass to my new frame.

Down the road, pending on my happiness and recovery post LL I would consider shooting for another 2 inches on tibs to reach 6 1.

How realistic is this do you guys think? And which of the dr.'s do you think I should go with in my case.

If you're gonna lengthen 3 inches in your femurs, you'd have to be very lucky to be walking unaided within 4 months. I'm looking to 7cm (2.75 inches), but I'll be able to work from home, so it's not as much of an issue for me. I would plan for more like 5 months to be more conservative.

Also, if you get to 5'11", you won't need anymore height. Honestly man, at 5'11", with some mass on your frame, I wouldn't even be thinking about height (unless you just need to be 6 ft).

[programdude]

I have a pretty big head, and reallllly long arms. Even at 5 11 I think I'd look disproportionate to be honest. At 6 1 I think I would be great.

Good to know about the 4 vs 5 months. I'm pretty fit so hopefully that plays a factor, but that is one part of my plan I could definitely work around just by staying away from home a bit longer.

[IamAndrew]

If you're dead set on a 2nd CLL for 5" total then I'd cut back on the first.

2.5" femur, 2.5" tibia, just to keep your proportions and less stress to any one segment. That would take some self-control tho.

I'd advise to keep athleticism and long-term recovery in mind. 2.5" with Guichet or Paley on femur and you may not even feel a noticeable athletic difference from before CLL because it's such a safe range and with high quality devices. To me that would be far more valuable than getting an extra .5-1" early and having problems or annoyances (no matter how slight) forever.

Then for tibia I would advise external only - if you can handle wearing the frames for many months. (edit)Dr. Bagirov or Mitkovic seem awesome with smaller devices for this. This is the best for long-term recovery anyway. Drilling a hole and inserting a rod through the kneecaps is not without consequences (internal methods).

With self-control and willingness to put up with some short-term inconvenience, you could in theory crank out 5" with very minimal (like 1-5%) performance loss years later while maintaining proportions. That plan is very similar to mine except I'm looking at 4.5" gain total just to be even safer. Near 6'0" is perfect anyway. Even just 1 safe CLL to 5'10" would be awesome enough tho.

[Wannabegiant]

If you're dead set on a 2nd CLL for 5" total then I'd cut back on the first.

2.5" femur, 2.5" tibia, just to keep your proportions and less stress to any one segment. That would take some self-control tho.

I'd advise to keep athleticism and long-term recovery in mind. 2.5" with Guichet or Paley on femur and you may not even feel a noticeable athletic difference from before CLL because it's such a safe range and with high quality devices. To me that would be far more valuable than getting an extra .5-1" early and having problems or annoyances (no matter how slight) forever.

Then for tibia I would advise external only - if you can handle wearing the frames for many months. Dr. Barinov or Mitkovic seem awesome with smaller devices for this. This is the best for long-term recovery anyway. Drilling a hole and inserting a rod through the kneecaps is not without consequences (internal methods).

With self-control and willingness to put up with some short-term inconvenience, you could in theory crank out 5" with very minimal (like 1-5%) performance loss years later while maintaining proportions.

Just so people are aware, Dr Barinovs frames are not small, they are the standard large bulky ilizarovs.

[GeTs]

Wannabegiant, can you post a pic if u don't mind?

[IamAndrew]

Just so people are aware, Dr Barinovs frames are not small, they are the standard large bulky ilizarovs.

Ugh, right. Meant Dr. Bagirov. Damn Russian names.

[Wannabegiant]

Wannabegiant, can you post a pic if u don't mind?

on the first page of my diary there is a video with some close looks at the frames, Bagirovs frames are one of the smallest available :p

Yeah i will post a pic soon, i just want to post my x-rays first, but i havent found a good solution to make the quality good enough so the callus cloud will be as clear as it is when looking at it irl. Im trying to get it to work with my scanner but its still fuzzy, trying to improve it with the settings.

[programdude]

The main reason I am aiming for 3 inches is because I am not positive if I will want to go for the second LL. However I wouldn't ignore what my dr. is telling me, if they thought I'd be almost problem free at 2.5 of a gain then I'd probably go with that. Either way I'd still be a bit above average height.

[3inches]

on the first page of my diary there is a video with some close looks at the frames, Bagirovs frames are one of the smallest available :p

Yeah i will post a pic soon, i just want to post my x-rays first, but i havent found a good solution to make the quality good enough so the callus cloud will be as clear as it is when looking at it irl. Im trying to get it to work with my scanner but its still fuzzy, trying to improve it with the settings.

You can try taking a picture with your phone camera (in my case I used Samsung S4) and it comes out with good quality and detail.

[programdude]

Have been going back and forth with Dr. G. His estimation of 2.5 months for approx 3 inches(which I may stop at 2.5 or 2.75 is very attractive, this would probably mean I could recover reasonably enough to move within 4ish months and also maybe not have to fly back for my invisalign update.

[Taller]

What are your wingspan and sitting height?

[programdude]

I dont know my sitting height at all, but my wingspan is around 6 1. Super long arms to the point I get comments when being measured for suits. One of the main reasons I want to go the distance to get to 6 1 and one of the reasons I definetly need LL for half decent proportions.

[IamAndrew]

One of the main reasons I want to go the distance to get to 6 1 and one of the reasons I definetly need LL for half decent proportions.

I give many feels to this plight.

But with longer reach you can do the sh** everyone else dreams of. The stuff of legend.

[endomorphisme]

lol, doing this surgery for proportions, who is going to believe that?

12 cm is a huge difference, i will give my 2 cents you will look less proportionate than you used to be.


Like me, you want to be 6'1" to taste the feeling of being tall, even if 6'1" is not really tall(i'm already 6'0, so i know what i am talking about)

i'm just aiming 4 cm, even if i wish i was 6'3", i know, every one know that a gain of 4 inches will start to look disproportionate, with several long life problems

[Taller]

I agree. I believe that there are more 5'11 men with 6'1 wingspans than 6'1 men with 6'1 wingspans.

[Blackhawk]

It seems like most guys have wingspans 2 or 3 inches more than their height.

[programdude]

Well, thats part of the advantage to doing two operations. With 3 inches theres no chance I wont look more symmetrical, and at that point I can gauge if two more inches interests me. At the very least I wouldn't look very unsymmetrical at 6 1.

Also I could be wrong and have even longer arms, thats just a guess. I am actually glad for them since they will help me not ridiculous post LL.

[programdude]

Alright, invisalign is in- Paley finally got back to me but I am still waiting for Guciet.