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[SpeedDialer]

Like 200. Taxis only accept cash, but you can use the Uber app (who calls taxis anyways) but allows you to pay with card before the trip.

ty! Oh, not Beat app? I heard that Greece uses Beat not Uber, maybe I misunderstood

How much should you tip the driver if he helps you carry the stuff? Trying to figure out which physical denominations of euros are useful to have

[V21]

ty! Oh, not Beat app? I heard that Greece uses Beat not Uber, maybe I misunderstood

How much should you tip the driver if he helps you carry the stuff? Trying to figure out which physical denominations of euros are useful to have

There is both Uber and Beat, but I use Uber. No idea about the tips, I always pay trought the app.

[Antonio111111]

I'm not trolling or anything. But why does the bones look misaligned? I've seen many betz xrays and the bones always lined up.

The top side of nail looks more uneven inside the cavity. Looks liked one wall was reamed more than other.

But I'm not a pro. Is this all normal?

[V21]

I'm not trolling or anything. But why does the bones look misaligned? I've seen many betz xrays and the bones always lined up.

The top side of nail looks more uneven inside the cavity. Looks liked one wall was reamed more than other.

But I'm not a pro. Is this all normal?

I think it's because my X rays were not done standing, but lying down on a flexed position. All nurses and Dr. say it's perfectely ok, I also was worried about this first time I saw it.

[V21]

Another thing I think it's important to take into account is that I don't think this can be easily done alone. I am lucky to have my gf with me since the beginning, but I would have needed lots of assistance if I had been here alone, specially first month. In fact, the other patients are hiring nurses for a lot of things. For example, the LATN patients need them to get into taxi for PT. There are two G nail patients who share appartament and they literally pay for the chief nurse to be with them every single day, and she helps them with clicking, house.... I don't think I would have payed for that much assistance, but hey, since she was clicking with them every day, she was able to propose alternative clicking ways that may be less painful (for me at least).

I think it's important to say this because I wouldn't have taken those expenses into consideration thinking this could be done mostly 100% alone, but that's just not true. You will need someone to come with you or hire nurses at times, at least for first 3-4 weeks and specially if you have cliclking issues.

[tallmen]

Another thing I think it's important to take into account is that I don't think this can be easily done alone. I am lucky to have my gf with me since the beginning, but I would have needed lots of assistance if I had been here alone, specially first month. In fact, the other patients are hiring nurses for a lot of things. For example, the LATN patients need them to get into taxi for PT. There are two G nail patients who share appartament and they literally pay for the chief nurse to be with them every single day, and she helps them with clicking, house.... I don't think I would have payed for that much assistance, but hey, since she was clicking with them every day, she was able to propose alternative clicking ways that may be less painful (for me at least).

I think it's important to say this because I wouldn't have taken those expenses into consideration thinking this could be done mostly 100% alone, but that's just not true. You will need someone to come with you or hire nurses at times, at least for first 3-4 weeks and specially if you have cliclking issues.

Thanks for saying that. I'll keep budget for that. Maybe will ask nurse to come every alternate day or so for helping with clicks and stuff. What do you do for food and stuff? Also, Can you go and buy groceries yourself or get to a taxi yourself?

[V21]

Thanks for saying that. I'll keep budget for that. Maybe will ask nurse to come every alternate day or so for helping with clicks and stuff. What do you do for food and stuff? Also, Can you go and buy groceries yourself or get to a taxi yourself?

Yeah, you will be able to take taxi alone in the first month post op. I always go with my gf, but the other G nails patients came to PT alone sice 7 days post op. Regarding groceries, just use the app called Efood and someone will bring it to your appartment at very cheap price. Quite useful.

[Fnyc]

You mentioned you had a hard time with Taxi's and being treated okay

What is your skin color? Do you look Greek? I can imagine I am Italian so I would fit in a bit more

[V21]

You mentioned you had a hard time with Taxi's and being treated okay

What is your skin color? Do you look Greek? I can imagine I am Italian so I would fit in a bit more

Nah man, some taxi drivers here are just that idiotic. I'm white, from Spain, and my gf is Russian and really pretty, which should in theory be a factor for them not to run from us lol. They just see you as a crippled and don't want to wait for you (slow walking) or help you getting the walker into car.

[V21]

I hit 5.5 cm today, which was my initial goal. I will do 6 in the end, so it's 7 more days of lenghtening for me. I don't feel tight at all, or at least not more than when I was at 4 or so. I think this week I'm finally getting "normal" sleep too. To be honest, if it wasn't for clicking pain it would have been a smooth journey. Also, I have to work a lot on my business, and it's a bit difficult with PT, stretching, walking a lot... but hey, all can be done with discipline. This week I will focus on improving my gait with crutches, will maybe upload video., although it's quite bad for now, cause I have been to careful due to being paranoid of breaking the nail.

[Arcon]

I hit 5.5 cm today, which was my initial goal. I will do 6 in the end, so it's 7 more days of lenghtening for me. I don't feel tight at all, or at least not more than when I was at 4 or so. I think this week I'm finally getting "normal" sleep too. To be honest, if it wasn't for clicking pain it would have been a smooth journey. Also, I have to work a lot on my business, and it's a bit difficult with PT, stretching, walking a lot... but hey, all can be done with discipline. This week I will focus on improving my gait with crutches, will maybe upload video., although it's quite bad for now, cause I have been to careful due to being paranoid of breaking the nail.

Well done! Hang in there bro and keep us posted.

[o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o]

Would it be any easier if three G-nail patients share an apartment and help each other out?

Or do you absolutely need a person who is fully functional to be a caretaker?

[Fnyc]

I hit 5.5 cm today, which was my initial goal. I will do 6 in the end, so it's 7 more days of lenghtening for me. I don't feel tight at all, or at least not more than when I was at 4 or so. I think this week I'm finally getting "normal" sleep too. To be honest, if it wasn't for clicking pain it would have been a smooth journey. Also, I have to work a lot on my business, and it's a bit difficult with PT, stretching, walking a lot... but hey, all can be done with discipline. This week I will focus on improving my gait with crutches, will maybe upload video., although it's quite bad for now, cause I have been to careful due to being paranoid of breaking the nail.

Was the clicking pain really that bad? Didn't the pain meds alleviate it?

[Antonio111111]

I think it's because my X rays were not done standing, but lying down on a flexed position. All nurses and Dr. say it's perfectely ok, I also was worried about this first time I saw it.

Ah ok. Please once your in consolidation stage, please send that xray. I'm curious to see it.

Congrats on your progress!!

[V21]

Would it be any easier if three G-nail patients share an apartment and help each other out?

Or do you absolutely need a person who is fully functional to be a caretaker?

If everyone is responsible and disciplined you will be ok. Worst case? You can share expenses. The guys who are having a nurse everyday are sharing appartament.

[V21]

Was the clicking pain really that bad? Didn't the pain meds alleviate it?

I know that when I talk about 8-9/10 pain many people will believe I'm exaggerating. I think only users like Sirstrecthalot, who had the same experience, can understand it fully. There was a point (week 2 to 3) when I don't hesitate to call it torture, as I was almost passing out due to pain, needing like 4 hours per day to get clicks done. The chief nurse was there in one of the sessions, and she can tell I'm not exaggerating the pain. No med would do anything to be honest. After clicking under anesthesia pain went down to 6-7/10, and now at 5.5 cm it's like 4/10. All of this is on right leg, left leg was never that painful.

However, it seems I'm a weird case. None of the other patients have had pain so bad with the clicks, so it's just bad luck for me. I also think that Giotikas is learning and improving the methods. For example, I had 0 pain clicking in the first two weeks, and then all started with the so called "inflammation phase". While he gave me Ibuprofen, it was a bit late, right when my inflammation was peaking. After that, he is giving Ibuprofen a bit earlier so patients don't develop crazy inflammation as I did. I think that also may explain why no one is having that much pain, as they are keeping inflammation more controlled since an earlier point.

To sum up: it's smart to be ready for some pain, but my experience with crazy pain is not the rule, it's just bad luck.

[Christopherbulder]

the big problem of the mechanical nails the clicks twist this leg at the beginning on an inflamation remains a suplice especially the first 3 weeks

[o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o]

Are the scars very noticeable?

[Super-JR]

I know that when I talk about 8-9/10 pain many people will believe I'm exaggerating. I think only users like Sirstrecthalot, who had the same experience, can understand it fully. There was a point (week 2 to 3) when I don't hesitate to call it torture, as I was almost passing out due to pain, needing like 4 hours per day to get clicks done. The chief nurse was there in one of the sessions, and she can tell I'm not exaggerating the pain. No med would do anything to be honest. After clicking under anesthesia pain went down to 6-7/10, and now at 5.5 cm it's like 4/10. All of this is on right leg, left leg was never that painful.

However, it seems I'm a weird case. None of the other patients have had pain so bad with the clicks, so it's just bad luck for me. I also think that Giotikas is learning and improving the methods. For example, I had 0 pain clicking in the first two weeks, and then all started with the so called "inflammation phase". While he gave me Ibuprofen, it was a bit late, right when my inflammation was peaking. After that, he is giving Ibuprofen a bit earlier so patients don't develop crazy inflammation as I did. I think that also may explain why no one is having that much pain, as they are keeping inflammation more controlled since an earlier point.

To sum up: it's smart to be ready for some pain, but my experience with crazy pain is not the rule, it's just bad luck.

Every patients have different experience, I too had lots of pain during the first 4 to 5 weeks, after that the pain just vanished. I found that it also dipends on one's mind. Those who are afraid to feel pain tend to feel it more, but if you start thinking and focusing to reach your goal of getting taller. You will not feel the pain at all.

[V21]

Every patients have different experience, I too had lots of pain during the first 4 to 5 weeks, after that the pain just vanished. I found that it also dipends on one's mind. Those who are afraid to feel pain tend to feel it more, but if you start thinking and focusing to reach your goal of getting taller. You will not feel the pain at all.

Nah man, I'm glad your experience was better, but I can tell you my issues were not psychological. I think I have quite good pain tolerance, and definetely wasn't afraid of it. As Giotikas says, I'm just an outlier in that regard, just bad luck. In fact, since week 4-5 as you say, clicking the left leg has been a joke: I even do it talking casually with my gf. It's just the right that keeps hurting. Of course, not as bad as in first month. I think my experience is quite similar to SirStrecthAlot, who had the same issues with right leg. Just bad luck and that's it.

However, don't take my posts about pain as complaining, I'm just triying to give an impartial picture of my journey with LL. I don't regret my choice at all, as I'd rather have pain than being on a wheelchair with Precice. I'm walking a lot now. I also like the experience in the sense that, if I was able to take this pain and not quitting, there is nothing in the future that will make me quit. In fact, I will keep the videos of my clicking sessions to motivate me in future lol.

[V21]

Btw, I'm developing some duck ass. I'm stretching hip flexors a lot, but my glute muscles are still non existing. I will work hard on this when I finish clicks. 5 more days to go¡

[Fnyc]

So under the assumption you are going on your own to Greece what are the main things you didn't realize you needed until arriving there?

Also did you compile a list of the phone apps/things you need to do? Did you go to a phone shop to get a sim card or you just use wifi?

[V21]

So under the assumption you are going on your own to Greece what are the main things you didn't realize you needed until arriving there?

Also did you compile a list of the phone apps/things you need to do? Did you go to a phone shop to get a sim card or you just use wifi?

I realised there are things you don't see on Airbnb. For example, I thought my apparment was perfect, but the shower door was slightly small, the toilet pretty low... all those are little things that you don't realise until you are f*cked up post surgery. Regarding phone apps: Efood and Wolt for food and groceries, and Uber or Beat to call taxis. I did not need SIM card cause I'm european, so we have automatic roaming.

[Bagga]

Hello All

You can engage BJR to look for apartment - they ensure it is suitable for LL patient -- without stairs, safe location, near amenities and etc.
I gotta my apartment thru BJR and happy with it. 

Tried to order online for Grocery, food and Uber transport - no issue so far.
WIFI here is good and so I am able to work in my apartment too.

LEO

[Arcon]

Hello All

You can engage BJR to look for apartment - they ensure it is suitable for LL patient -- without stairs, safe location, near amenities and etc.
I gotta my apartment thru BJR and happy with it. 

Tried to order online for Grocery, food and Uber transport - no issue so far.
WIFI here is good and so I am able to work in my apartment too.

LEO

When did you have your surgery?

[V21]

Just out of the blue I developed some duck ass. Before that I had a bit, but almost unnoticeable. In the last two days it has gotten worse, so I'm stretching my hip flexors like crazy. Luckily, only 4 more days of lenghtening and it's over. The duck ass is causing tension on my low back (I have a bulging disk since a few years ago) and it's really annoying.

[KillerShark]

Btw, I'm developing some duck ass. I'm stretching hip flexors a lot, but my glute muscles are still non existing. I will work hard on this when I finish clicks. 5 more days to go¡

I wouldn’t compare you and Sir’s situations. He went with a 70 year old Betz and lengthened a dangerous amount, it seems in the next couple of years Dr. G will be the worlds top LL surgeon, either him or mahboibian due to actually caring about patients rehab. Godspeed for paving the way for the next generation of LL’ers and giving Giotikas experience. I’ve already started to learn Greek and have made my choice of going to him within the next 5 years.

[V21]

Hey guys, I finished lenghtening. I just arrived from hospital and X rays. It seems that the daily amount of clicks we do is slightly more than 1 cm, cause in every X ray I have maybe 1 mm more than expected. My end mark: 6.1 cm. I did not want to go over 6, but hell, I don't think 1 mm is gonna cause more trouble with athletic recovery.

One thing I was worried was misalignment: as some users noted, my side view looks great, but on the front the bone don't loke straight. However, Dr. says it's all good, and PT and nurses say all the same: my femur is a but more curved than average, and that's why it looks a bit curved. I must admit that the X ray looks weird (will upload later to see if anyone can comment), but I don't think everyone is lying about something that would be really obvious. Dr. also seems to be quite responsible: I commented that in the last weeks my right knee is slightly inwards when walking, although PT guys say it's 100% muscle imbalance (have seen the same in other users). He also says it's muscle imbalance, but wants me do a CT scan to confirm there is no problem in that leg before I go home, so that's why I think he doesn't look like an untrusworthy guy.

In any case, I hope all is good "structuraly" and I can start to recover. Today is 2 months and 2 days post surgery: I certainly did the 6 cm fast¡ My bone growth is still pretty good, and Dr has cleared me to start walking unassisted at home, at least just a bit. Outside, I should use crutches for 4 weeks more.

Will upload X rays soon, I would appreciate if someone with knowledge can comment on them¡

[canterk]

congratulations!! only 2months to do 6 cm, yes that is fast compared to the usual diaries that we read here.
how is your gait now and your walking speed? i know you said crutches outside for 4 weeks more but how do you feel now about walking? how long do you think can you get back to pre-op gait and speed?

[Raden]

Congratulation! Curious with G-nail is it possible to rebreak later to gain more height? Rebreaking, reactivating and continue lengthening is possible with precice to gain for the max.

[canterk]

Congratulation! Curious with G-nail is it possible to rebreak later to gain more height? Rebreaking, reactivating and continue lengthening is possible with precice to gain for the max.

i think so. its not any different because when bones finished consolidating and is fully healed and healthy, its still bone regardless of g nail or other methods.